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Virtually the Entire Dem-Controlled Congress Supports Israel's War Crimes in Gaza
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In a direct challenge to the credibility of Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the International Red Cross and other reputable humanitarian organizations, an overwhelming bipartisan majority in both houses of Congress has gone on record supporting President George W. Bush's position that the Israeli armed forces bear no responsibility for the large and growing numbers of civilian casualties from their assault on the Gaza Strip.
As of this writing, at least 400 civilians have been killed by Israeli forces, primarily using U.S.-supplied weaponry.
Shattering hopes that an expanded Democratic congressional majority and a new Democratic administration might lead to a more moderate foreign policy, the resolutions put forward an extreme reinterpretation of international humanitarian law, apparently designed to exonerate nations with superior firepower from any liability for inflicting large-scale civilian casualties.
The Senate resolution, primarily written and sponsored by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., passed the Senate by unanimous consent on a voice vote. Among the 33 co-sponsors were such otherwise liberal Democratic senators as Barbara Boxer, Calif,; Richard Durbin, Ill,; Carl Levin, Mich.; Sherrod Brown, Ohio; Barbara Mikulski, Md.; and 2004 presidential nominee John Kerry, Mass.
An even stronger House resolution, sponsored by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., passed the House by a lopsided 390-5 roll call vote (with 22 members voting "present"). Both resolutions placed the blame for the death and destruction exclusively on the Palestinian side and are being widely interpreted as a rebuke to the international human rights community and the United Nations, which have cited both Hamas and the Israeli government for war crimes.
The resolutions favorably quote Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice extensively, as well as Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, regarding responsibility for civilian deaths and for the causes of the conflict. No one else is cited in the resolutions, indicating who Pelosi, Reid and the resolutions' other sponsors see as the authoritative sources of information on international humanitarian law in the region.
Although some analysts are already referring to the Gaza war as "a final and eloquent testimony to the complete failure of the neoconservative movement in United States foreign policy," Pelosi, Reid and virtually the entire Democratic membership of Congress have decided to ally themselves with this failed ideology of the outgoing Bush administration rather than blaze a new trail of moderation and common sense in anticipation of new leadership in the White House. Indeed, Pelosi's and Reid's strategy in pushing through these resolutions may have been part of an attempt to box in Obama -- to force him to continue Bush's hard-right foreign policy. That is, a policy in which, in the name of the "war on terror," fundamental principles of international law are deemed to be expendable.
To the Right of Bush
Some of the language in the resolution put forward by Pelosi, Reid and their colleagues even place the Democratic Party to the right of the Bush administration. For example, while the Jan. 8 U.N. Security Council resolution -- which received the endorsement of Rice and other administration officials -- condemns "all acts of violence and terror directed against civilians," the congressional resolution only condemns the violence and terror of Hamas.
Indeed, just as the Security Council unanimously passed its resolution stressing "the urgency of and calls for an immediate, durable and fully respected cease-fire, leading to the full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza," Congress immediately weighed in with language apparently designed to prevent one. The Senate and House resolutions called for a cease-fire only on the condition that it "prevents Hamas from retaining or rebuilding the capability to launch rockets and mortars against Israel." Given that most of these rockets and mortars are of a rather crude design that can be made in local machine shops from scrap metal and other easily obtainable materials, and is therefore the kind of capability that can not really be completely eliminated, it appears that this clause would make a cease-fire impossible.
Emboldened by this strong bipartisan support from the legislative branch of its most important ally, Israel rejected the U.N.'s terms for a cease-fire.
Also on Jan. 8, Israeli forces killed two U.N. humanitarian aid workers as they were attempting to provide relief supplies, and the International Red Cross released a strongly worded statement noting that the Israeli military had "failed to meet its obligation under international humanitarian law to care for and evacuate the wounded." The Nobel Prize-winning humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders noted that "Palestinian humanitarian aid and health workers have been killed, and hospitals and ambulances have been bombed."
Congress, however, went on record in the resolutions praising Israel for having "facilitated humanitarian aid to Gaza."
Both resolutions "hold Hamas responsible for breaking the cease-fire," despite the fact that there had been scores of minor violations during the months of the cease-fire by both sides and that Israel had launched a major incursion into the Gaza Strip on Nov. 4, 2008, assassinating several Hamas leaders, an action the Israeli press speculated was designed to provoke Hamas into not renewing the cease-fire when it expired the following month. Israel then tightened its siege on Nov. 5, banning even humanitarian aid from coming through. Hamas appeared willing to renew the cease-fire in return for Israel renouncing further such incursions and lifting the siege, but Israel refused.
While these Israeli provocations do not justify Hamas' failure to renew the cease-fire and certainly not Hamas' decision to once again begin firing rockets into civilian-populated areas of Israel -- which is a war crime -- the language of the resolutions gives a very misleading understanding of the events leading up to the war. Ironically, despite blaming Hamas exclusively for not renewing the cease-fire, the resolutions also claim that returning to the terms of that cease-fire agreement "is unacceptable."
Yet these were by no means the most egregious misrepresentations in these Democratic-led congressional initiatives.
Redefining International Humanitarian Law
In perhaps the most dangerous clause of the resolution, the House called "on all nations … to condemn Hamas for deliberately embedding its fighters, leaders and weapons in private homes, schools, mosques, hospitals and otherwise using Palestinian civilians as human shields."
According to international humanitarian law, however, "human shields" require the deliberate use of civilians as a deterrent to avoid attack on one's troops or military objects. Despite repeated calls to the offices of the resolutions' principal Democratic sponsors, not one of them could provide a single example of this actually occurring during the current wave of fighting. Similar accusations in a 2006 resolution supported by Pelosi, Reid and other Democratic leaders during the five weeks of devastating Israeli attacks on Lebanon that summer were later systematically rebuked in a detailed and meticulously researched 249-page report by Human Rights Watch. (See my article "The Democrats and the "Human Shields" Myth").
In this resolution, the Democrats appear to be attempting to redefine just what constitutes human shields. Despite this desperate effort to rationalize the large-scale killing of Palestinian civilians by Israeli forces, the fact that a Hamas leader lives in his own private home, attends a neighborhood mosque and seeks admittance in a local hospital does not constitute the use of human shields. Indeed, the vast majority of leaders of most governments and political parties live in private homes in civilian neighborhoods, go to local houses of worship and check in to hospitals when sick or injured, along with ordinary civilians. Furthermore, given that the armed wing of Hamas is a militia rather than a standing army, virtually all of their fighters live in private homes and go to neighborhood mosques and local hospitals, as well.
In short, Pelosi and other congressional leaders appear to be advancing a radical and dangerous reinterpretation of international humanitarian law that would allow virtually any country with superior air power or long-range artillery to get away with war crimes.
Hamas is certainly guilty of less-severe violations of international humanitarian law, such as not taking all necessary steps it should to prevent civilian casualties when it positions fighters and armaments too close to concentrations of civilians. However, this is not the same thing as deliberately using civilians as shields. And, as Human Rights Watch noted, even the presence of armed personnel and weapons near civilian areas "does not release Israel from its obligations to take all feasible precautions to minimize harm to civilians and civilian property during military operations." Furthermore, the nature of urban warfare, particularly in a territory as densely populated as the Gaza Strip, makes the proximity of retreating fighters and their equipment to civilians unavoidable in many cases.
It is also important to note that, even if Hamas were using human shields in the legal definition of the term, it still does not absolve Israel from its obligation to avoid civilian casualties. Amnesty International has noted that the Geneva Conventions make it clear that even if one side is shielding itself behind civilians, such a violation "shall not release the Parties to the conflict from their legal obligations with respect to the civilian population and civilians." Despite claims by some members of Congress to the contrary, Israel's Jan. 6 attack on the U.N. school in Gaza, which killed more than 40 civilians, was still a war crime, even if Israeli forces were being fired upon from the vicinity. (The argument by those defending this atrocity is comparable to claiming that it would be legitimate for a SWAT team, in order to kill some bank robbers shooting at them, to also kill the bank employees and customers being held hostage since the bad guys were using "human shields.")
Rewriting the U.N. Charter – and the Magna Carta
Pelosi's resolution not only undermines international humanitarian law, it seeks to resurrect a fallacy that has been rejected by Western legal thought since the Magna Carta. In an effort to absolve Israel for the hundreds of civilian casualties it has inflicted with U.S.-supplied weaponry, the House resolution "calls on all nations … to lay blame both for the breaking of the calm and for subsequent civilian casualties in Gaza precisely where blame belongs, that is, on Hamas."
In reality, however wrong -- morally, legally and politically -- Hamas' decision to not renew the cease-fire, it simply does not absolve Israel of its responsibility under international humanitarian law for the far greater civilian deaths its armed forces have inflicted upon the Palestinians in Gaza. Indeed, it has long been a principle of Western jurisprudence that someone who is the proximate cause of a crime cannot claim innocence simply because of the influence of another party. By refuting this nearly 800-year old legal principle, this becomes, literally, a reactionary piece of legislation.
In support of the Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, the House also goes on record citing the Israeli invasion as part of Israel's "right to act in self-defense to protect its citizens against Hamas' unceasing aggression, as enshrined in the United Nations Charter." In reality, the U.N. Charter explicitly prohibits nations going to war unless they "first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice." Israel -- with strong bipartisan U.S. support -- has refused to even meet with Hamas. Furthermore, while Article 51 does allow countries the right to resist an armed attack, it does not grant any nation the right to engage in such massive and disproportionate warfare against densely packed cities and refugee camps.
Not a Product of AIPAC
It appears that these two resolutions, unlike some similar measures in recent years, were not drafted by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee AIPAC, the influential "pro-Israel" lobby. Nor were they primarily the initiative of right-wing Republican House leaders like Ohio Rep. John Boehner, or his predecessor Texas Rep. Tom DeLay, as were previous resolutions related to the Israel-Palestinian conflict. The lack of Democratic input on such resolutions has been used on a number of occasions in the past by Democratic staff members on Capitol Hill in an effort to excuse congressional Democrats for voting in favor of such initiatives, arguing that they ended up voting for a particular resolution in order to "show support for Israel," but did not necessarily approve of the specific wording of the resolution.
They have no such excuses this time, however, since these resolutions came primarily out of the offices of Pelosi, Reid, and House Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Howard Berman, D-Calif.
There appears to be little popular support for such an unqualified endorsement of Israeli war-making, however, with public opinion -- particularly among Democrats -- largely opposed to the assault on Gaza. And the American Jewish community has never seen so much dissent over Washington's support for Israel's militaristic and self-defeating policies toward the Palestinians. Despite the myth that it is somehow "political suicide" to oppose such resolutions, every Democrat who failed to vote for a similar 2006 House resolution supporting Israel's attacks on Lebanon and the Gaza Strip was re-elected that November by a bigger margin than they were two years earlier. Furthermore, virtually all of the principal authors and sponsors of this year's resolutions come from safe districts.
One of major reasons these Democrats support such right-wing legislation is not because AIPAC is all-powerful, but because there is so little pressure in the other direction to counter it. For example, MoveOn, Democracy for America, Council for a Livable World, and other "progressive" political organizations that endorse candidates for national office continue to back Democrats who support dangerous militaristic policies in the Middle East. (Ironically, if Democrats Nita Lowey, N.Y.; Robert Wexler, Fla;, John Hall, N.Y.; Henry Waxman, D-Calif.; Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas; Carolyn Maloney, N.Y.; Edward Markey, Mass.; and other co-sponsors of the House bill were running for the Israeli Knesset instead of the U.S. House of Representatives, their positions on human rights and international law in regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would put them on that legislature's right wing.)
Since the next congressional election is nearly two years away, it is too early to tell whether the growing opposition within the progressive community to U.S. support for the large-scale Israeli attacks against Palestinian civilians will be sufficient to deny those who defend Israeli war crimes the endorsements of progressive groups in the 2010 campaign. Given that like-minded organizations in previous decades denied their support for Democratic hawks who defended human rights abuses by U.S.-backed governments in Central America, Southeast Asia, Southern Africa and other conflict regions, it should be possible.
The problem is that there is still a fair amount of anti-Arab racism, which seems to take the perspective that the human rights of Palestinians somehow don't count. It's telling, for example, that Pelosi, the chief sponsor of the House resolution, has been praised by progressive publications for her "consistent support for human rights." Similarly, the late Foreign Relations Committee chairman, Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., also an outspoken defender of Israeli human rights abuses, was repeatedly re-elected to chair the ironically named congressional Human Rights Caucus and was eulogized in a number of progressive periodicals following his death last year as Congress' "leading defender of human rights." (See my article Lantos' Tarnished Legacy.)
Israel would not be able to get away with its ongoing attacks against Palestinian civilians were it not for the support of the Bush administration. The Bush administration would not be able to get away with supporting these atrocities were it not being backed by the Democratic-controlled Congress, including many of its otherwise more liberal members. And the overwhelming support by congressional Democrats of Bush's stance would not be possible were it not for the continued acquiescence of the progressive community to these Democrats' embrace of his right-wing militaristic agenda in the Mideast.
Peace between Israel and Palestine may not be possible until progressive activists stop seeing members of Congress who support such resolutions as powerless victims of some mythical cabal of wealthy Jews and instead hold them just as accountable for their actions as those who took comparable right-wing positions regarding Central America or East Timor in previous years, or those who embrace such policies regarding Iraq and Iran today. Instead of protesting in front of Israeli consulates, demonstrators will need to focus their protests more on congressional offices, as well as engage in more disruptive tactics, such as sit-ins and other forms of nonviolent direct action. It may require withholding campaign contributions, supporting progressive challengers in primary races and threatening to back Green or other third-party challengers in the general election.
There are signs this may be possible. The past couple of weeks have witnessed an unprecedented outpouring of concern on the plight of the Palestinians of the Gaza Strip. In addition, while the corporate media is as biased in support of U.S. client states as ever, much of the widely read independent news/opinion Web sites -- which are increasingly important in shaping public opinion -- have had a fair amount of critical coverage. This could be significant in that the more the conflict is addressed in terms of human rights and international law, and the less it is addressed in terms of Israel versus Palestine, the less likely the debate will be dominated by those with rigid ideological agendas.
This should also help make it easier to recognize how U.S. policy is not just bad for the Palestinians, but ultimately bad for Israel as well, as Israeli militarism goaded on by U.S. politicians from Bush to Pelosi has left the Jewish state increasingly isolated in the world and has greatly contributed to the growing ranks of Islamic extremists, such as those drawn to Hamas.
And, should Barack Obama -- who has refused to join the chorus of other Democratic leaders in backing the Israeli invasion -- decide as president to finally apply some "tough love" towards Israel in the face of a hostile Congress, he is going to need the American people to back him up.
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Posted by: elidude420 on Jan 13, 2009 11:56 AM
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I understand why Obama is more interested in the future than the past. However, if he refuses to acknowledge the present, the future will only grow bleaker.
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» En garde
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» Damn. Touche'!
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» Study the history of the Zionists
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Jan 13, 2009 12:59 PM
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Given the Democratic Party's utter adherence to AIPAC and the depth of hatred building against Israel, I see little hope of either happening soon. But if you want to join a party that advocates for justice in the Middle East and everywhere else, check out www.gp.org.
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» ...and speaking of letters
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» the will of the people ...can be hard to ignore?
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Posted by: DrBrian on Jan 14, 2009 12:29 AM
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It's almost invariably the most devout Christians and Jews who advocate wholesale slaughter, and usually irreligious people who support peace.
Our government tells us its objective is to eliminate terrorism, but who can doubt that the carnage in Gaza juxtaposed with its gleeful endorsement by our government will swell the ranks of angry young men seeking revenge?
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jan 14, 2009 1:05 AM
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This isn't new. Both the US and Israel have long been scofflaws and hypocrites. A look at human rights treaties reveals that they are usually in the company of regimes they otherwise deplore.
Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Jaamat Islamia and Hamas must be absolutely giddy at the public relations and recruiting coup we have handed them.
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Posted by: james_allen on Jan 14, 2009 1:57 AM
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Poles last land to Russia in the aftermath of WWII yet we don't hear of Polish suicide bombers. Germans lost land. Etc., etc. etc. Only the Palestinians have adopted bloodlust as their guiding philosophy; why is this so attractive to "liberals"?
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» What double standard?
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Posted by: RevolutionNet on Jan 14, 2009 2:29 AM
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REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
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» RE: Virtually the Entire Dem-Controlled Congress - Should Be Tried For War Crimes Against Humanity
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» Indict the Bush administration first . . .
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» RE: Let's see what Obama will do.
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» RE: Let's see what Obama will do. - He will support Israel.
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Posted by: jreinhart1 on Jan 14, 2009 3:10 AM
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Obama must flush out criminals from the last executive office or he becomes nothing better than what was their previously. We must take the log out of our own eyes before we pick out the twigs from other nations. Otherwise, America is nothing but a nation led by hypocrites.
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Posted by: wewokaokie on Jan 14, 2009 3:52 AM
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Thank you, Steven Zunes, for putting this D.C. atrocity under our noses. It's time we looked in the mirror and faced our culpability.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 14, 2009 4:09 AM
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Early Friday morning the secretary of state was considering bringing the cease-fire resolution to a UNSC vote and we didn’t want her to vote for it.” Olmert said. “I said ‘get President Bush on the phone.’ They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said ‘I’m not interested, I need to speak to him now.’ He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call.”
A beaming Olmert then described telling President Bush “the US cannot possibly vote in favor of this resolution,” and spoke with pride of how embarrassed US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was at having to abstain from voting for a resolution she helped to organize and gather support for. The US abstention shocked diplomats, and made it easier for Israel to dismiss the ceasefire out of hand. At the time of the vote Rice declared that the United States supported the draft but could not vote for it because of their “special relationship” with Israel. Just days later Rice too was lashing out at the resolution as “unacceptable.”
It's quite clear that Israeli control of US Politicians extends far beyond the Bush administration - and they have got something on nearly every individual US politician.
What exactly is it?
Why do US politicians put the interests of the Zionist Israeli Government before the interests of American people?
I am extremely puzzled how this "shitty little country (in French)"
has such enormous influence that the entire US Government are scared shitless of them.
Sure they are evil bastards - but are there no US politicians that have got the courage to stand up to such evil?
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» RE: IT IS OFCAUSE POSSIBLE THAT RICE DID NOT REALIZE THAT A CEASE FIRE HAD TO INCLUDE NOT TARGETTING
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Posted by: robchapman on Jan 14, 2009 4:24 AM
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Hamas has placed its rocket launchers, troop cantonments, training facilities and other facilities needed to support its military operations in densely populated residential areas.
Hamas has deliberately placed these installations in these neighborhoods to use its civilians as human shields from the IDF.
Hamas seeks to gain victory over the IDF through the human sacrifice of civilians inadvertently killed by IDF combatants rather than through direct engagement with them militarily.
Hamss has cynically placed the Palestinean people in the path of IDF attacks. The IDF attacks are the response to unrestricted rocketing of Israeli residential and agricultural areas by Hamas.
Hamas are sacrificing the Palestinean people in the hope that world public opinion will force the IDF to restrict its operations and give Hamas the victory it cannot gain otherwise.
Can anyone think that the Hamas military leadership, which has placed Palestinean children in the path of IDF rockets will show any restraint in other matters?
The Hamas leadership, which has placed its own people under IDF guns, should not be given a victory for it. Instead, public opinion should urge them to take the path Sinn Fein took in the Irish struggles.
Hamas should be urged to renounce its armed wing, to cease fire unconditionally, and participate in negotiations with Israel as a responsible part of the Palestinean government.
Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY
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» When you're done drinking all that Israeli zionist kool-aid and foaming like crazy,
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Posted by: henkle110936 on Jan 14, 2009 4:46 AM
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jan 14, 2009 5:26 AM
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Posted by: weathered on Jan 14, 2009 5:54 AM
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If its not printed or broadcasted, it never happened.
Pls. see the MSM monster for exactly what it is, an accomplice to the Crimes.
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Jan 14, 2009 6:00 AM
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Congress supports Israel because Congress IS the one dictating Israel to attack Lebanon, Palestinian ghettos.
Don't expect a change unless you are willing to throw ought every single bum from the Congress.
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Posted by: morgan1 on Jan 14, 2009 6:14 AM
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Posted by: weathered on Jan 14, 2009 6:22 AM
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Connect the dots.
W/out 9/11 this sickness, this the worst time in our history had little chance of traction.
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Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield on Jan 14, 2009 7:42 AM
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Jan 14, 2009 7:46 AM
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"Concerns about Israel’s use of non-conventional and experimental weapons in the Gaza Strip are growing, with evasive comments from spokesmen and reluctance to allow independent journalists inside the tiny enclave only fuelling speculation.
The most prominent controversy is over the use of shells containing white phosphorus, which causes horrific burns when it comes into contact with skin. Under international law, phosphorus is allowed as a smokescreen to protect soldiers but treated as a chemical weapon when used against civilians.
The Israeli army maintains that it is using only weapons authorised in international law, though human rights groups have severely criticised Israel for firing phosphorus shells over densely populated areas of Gaza.
But there might be other unconventional weapons Israel is using out of sight of the watching world.
One such munition may be Dime, or dense inert metal explosive, a weapon recently developed by the US army to create a powerful and lethal blast over a small area.
The munition is supposed to still be in the development stage and is not yet regulated. There are fears, however, that Israel may have received a green light from the US military to treat Gaza as a testing ground.
“We have seen Gaza used as a laboratory for testing what I call weapons from hell,” said David Halpin, a retired British surgeon and trauma specialist who has visited Gaza on several occasions to investigate unusual injuries suffered by Gazans.
“I fear the thinking in Israel is that it is in its interests to create as much mutilation as possible to terrorise the civilian population in the hope they will turn against Hamas.”
Gaza’s doctors, including one of the few foreigners there, Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian specialist in emergency medicine working at Al Shifa hospital in Gaza City, report that many of the injuries they see are consistent with the use of Dime.
Wounds from the weapon are said to be distinctive. Those exposed to the blast have severed or melted limbs, or internal ruptures, especially to soft tissue such as the abdomen, that often lead to death.
There is said to be no shrapnel apart from a fine “dusting” of minute metal particles on damaged organs visible when autopsies are carried out. Survivors of a Dime blast are at increased risk of developing cancer, according to research carried out in the United States.
Traditional munitions, by contrast, cause large wounds wherever shrapnel penetrates the body.
“The power of the explosion dissipates very quickly and the strength does not travel long, maybe 10 metres, but those humans who are hit by this explosion, this pressure wave, are cut in pieces,” Dr Gilbert said in a recent interview.
This is not the first time concerns about Israel’s use of Dime have surfaced in Gaza. Doctors there reported strange injuries they could not treat, and from which patients died unexpectedly days later, during a prolonged wave of Israeli air strikes in 2006.
A subsequent Italian investigation found Israel was using a prototype weapon similar to Dime. Samples from victims in Gaza showed concentrations of unusual metals in their bodies.
Yitzhak Ben-Israel, the former head of the Israeli military’s weapons development programme, appeared familiar with the weapon, telling Italian TV that the short radius of the explosion helped avoid injuries to bystanders, allowing “the striking of very small targets”.
The Israeli human rights group B’Tselem has recorded numerous occasions when the Israeli army has fired flechette shells, both in Lebanon and Gaza. The shell releases thousands of tiny metal darts that cause horrible injuries."
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» Liar.
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Posted by: curiousdwk on Jan 14, 2009 7:52 AM
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Will we never learn what it takes to be a help in this world rather than a problem? What do all these Congresspeople say when asked the simple question "Why does the rest of the world not agree and even despise the US position on Israel's illegal activities?"
It's times like that this that I am ashamed to be an American.
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Posted by: JamesD on Jan 14, 2009 8:05 AM
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Posted by: egdell on Jan 14, 2009 8:06 AM
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Posted by: DCostello2 on Jan 14, 2009 8:17 AM
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2331 Definitions
As used in this chapter—
(1) the term “international terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;
I don't know about you but it's pretty obvious that what Israel is doing constitutes International Terrorism according to US Law.
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Posted by: kwshanno on Jan 14, 2009 9:19 AM
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Posted by: ramster1 on Jan 14, 2009 9:25 AM
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Zunes might make a more credible argument if he got his facts straight.
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Posted by: iris89 on Jan 14, 2009 10:17 AM
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Second, Now, with respect Palestine there is a scripture all should consider, 1 Peter 3:11, "Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).
But neither the Ishmaelites - Hamas, nor the Hebrews - Israelites are considering it. Strange as they are both descendants of Abraham, one by Ishmael and one by Issac.
Now, even though the Ishmaelites control over 98% of the Middle East, they are greedy for the less than 2% of the Middle East belonging to their brother tribe, the Hebrews - Israelites. This is NOT the way for the descendants of Abraham who walked with Almighty God (YHWH) to act.
Why is this? It is because neither is walking with the TRUE GOD as did Abraham, but both are being mislead by none other than Satan the Devil per 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (AV).
In fact, the Ishmaelites instead of pursuing peace in accordance with what Jesus (Yeshua) the Son of God said at Matthew 22:37-40 said, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." (AV).
This is clearly shown by what one Australian Newspaper said, "Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]"
However, what the world needs is peace, not war. So clearly we can see that the Ishmaelites are in a false religion not walking with Almighty God (YHWH), the God of Abraham; nor are the Hebrews who do not recognize his son, Jesus (Yeshua), anymore than the Ishmaelites.
All need to be showing love for neighbor by exposing false beliefs that are ruining mankind by misleading him from walking with the True God of Abraham, Almighty God (YHWH).
To learn more, go to:
http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum
And going down to:
DISCUSSIONS AND EXPOSURES, and to subject Exposing False Belief A Loving Act
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Posted by: iris89 on Jan 14, 2009 10:19 AM
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Hamas is NOT seeking peace as clearly shown by Hamas' denial of the right of the Israelites to exist; whereas, Israel never has denied the right of the Palestines to existence. Nor has Israel ever used civilians as human shields or suicide bombers. Both of these practices show a clear disregard for peace and love of life and fellow man. Both the Ishmaelites - Hamas, and the Hebrews - Israelites should be walking with the TRUE GOD as did Abraham, but neither are.
For details, go to, http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/
An Educational Referral Forum and start learning the ways of peace and reality. If there are any questions or you want to discuss, PM me at this forum.
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Posted by: iris89 on Jan 14, 2009 10:22 AM
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Why do the residents of Gaza keep firing rockets and mortars at Israel if they do NOT like the humanitarian conditions it creates? Is it some kind of irrational insane self induced flagellations. It just does NOT make sense to me.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 14, 2009 10:44 AM
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When this happens the most important thing is to consider all possible options such that you don't lose any data.
Data is far more important than hardware or operating system and must be protected at all cost.
Once you have cleaned out all the shit - you find that the computer that arrived on September 11th 2001 runs like new.
I would recommend Ubuntu as the best solution.
Tony
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Posted by: tommy_slothrop on Jan 14, 2009 10:53 AM
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It is a mutualistic relationship that began to develop in 1967 and has grown over the years.
The huge amounts of weapons given to Israel has resulted in the political empowerment of the most brutal elements of Israeli society. Every state in the U.S. is now economically dependent on this weapons spending. AIPAC (the Arms Industry Political Action Commitee) now can threaten every member of the House and Senate with massive job losses among their constituents if they don't do their bidding.
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» It's not a lie. It's an opinion.
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Jan 14, 2009 11:02 AM
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the siege that has created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
We also call on the United States government to end its complicity in
Israeli crimes against humanity by cutting off its $4 billion of
financial aid and flow of advanced armaments to the Israeli military.
The best way to end the atrocities would be for US taxpayers to stop
paying for them. And we join the Green Party of the US (and Naomi Klein, here on Alternet) in calling for a boycott against Israel and campaign of divestment against US companies doing business there.
On December 30th 2008, we learned with great pride that former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, the Green Party's candidate for President in 2008, was on the Dignity, a boat loaded with hospital
supplies bound for Gaza when it was rammed and nearly sunk in
international waters by Israeli ships enforcing the blockade.
According to the Israeli navy, carrying medical supplies and doctors to dying people is a form of "terrorism."
We remind the people of Oregon and of the world that the rocket attacks
from within Gaza had essentially ended under the recent truce,
until ISRAEL BROKE THE TRUCE. On Nov. 4, when the world's attention
was on the US election, Israel shelled a defensive tunnel within Gaza, killing six people. It was after that that Hamas ended the truce and resumed rocket attacks, and after that that 3 Israeli
civilians were killed. Israel's own violation of the truce thus served
as the pretext for their massive attack, which has now caused more than 900 deaths, including hundreds of women, children, and unarmed men.
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Posted by: jimswanson on Jan 14, 2009 11:23 AM
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www.bushleagueofnations.com [For FREE download of entire book]
What a fresh enlightening perspective by Stephen Zunes!
Thanks to his perspective, I will try not to blame the rightwing American villains—AIPAC, neocons and the Bush regime—for everything wrong with American policy in the Middle East.
Yes, they are culpable, but our Democratic leaders and we progressives must shoulder some of the blame too—for meekly going along with conventional wisdom.
We must work harder to reject the mainstream notion that peace in the Middle East is impossible.
We must stop supporting—whether out of fear or ignorance—every American and Israeli initiative that relies on violence, or is based on the insane premise that peaceful alternatives should be considered only after all military options have been exhausted.
Peace in the Middle East is possible.
After eight years in the wilderness, hope returns next week in the form of Barack Obama.
He and we should remember the contributions of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton to peace.
Carter’s sustained efforts helped lead to the signing of a permanent peace agreement between Israel and Egypt in 1979—a peace agreement that has never been broken. That required Carter’s strength, integrity and moral leadership—in short, diplomacy—something missing from Bush’s and the GOP’s toolkit.
Likewise, Clinton had a key role in supporting the peace process that led to the signing of a permanent peace agreement between Israel and Jordan in 1994, which agreement has never been broken.
This and much more is discussed in, “The Bush League of Nations: The Coalition of the Unwilling, the Bullied and the Bribed – the GOP’s War on Iraq and America,” by James A. Swanson (2008, CreateSpace Publishing, 448 pages).
Patriots everywhere can download the entire book for free at www.bushleagueofnations.com.
I ask for nothing in return, except that you perhaps use my book to help restore and build America.
Jim Swanson, Los Altos, CA
“The Bush League of Nations”
www.bushleagueofnations.com
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 14, 2009 11:30 AM
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It is set in Bombay (Mumbai) India
I knew nothing about it.
My wife just said - you have just got to see this - so we invited an Indian friend to come with us - who incidentally once met John Lennon in an elevator in New York and said I used to go to art college there even though she comes from Goa
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1010048/
This film is so powerful I nearly puked up in the first 10 minutes
However I thought Babel was excellent too
Seen any good movies about the current Holocaust in Gaza?
Tony
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Posted by: Garvagh on Jan 14, 2009 11:42 AM
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Posted by: Kahoneez on Jan 14, 2009 12:58 PM
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And that's part of what the apartheid regime has done , in addition to stealing WATER , cutting off electricity , murdering individuals , bombing apartment buildings knowing civilains were there , dropping white phospherous on little kids , buring them alive, something only cowardly baby killing degenerates would do and now the complicit Democrat party , the party of DEATH , and equally complicit as the pilot who dropped the bombs or shot the artillary full of chemical weapons and just as guilty .
Oh, I apologize to the previous apartheid regime, you did't attack settlements with planes , or drop white phosporous , only the murdering state of Israel has done that .
And now the complicit part of Reid , Clinton , Kerry and Obama has sent a clear message , that if your an ARAB , you are not HUMAN and deserving of sympathy or equal human rights , because your sycophantic policy of coddling, embracing and the state of Israel and their blood soaked lobbiest AIPAC , ADL is MORE IMPORTANT .
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Posted by: jakethesnake on Jan 14, 2009 1:12 PM
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If you watched 60 minutes this past week (I know it's biased) but they did screw up and investigated the huge price in gas last year, coming to the conclusion that it was speculators in the commodities market that caused the increase. They even went further, stating that there was collusion among secret traders to deliberately spike the oil market during a time when oil output was high and demand was low (which should have caused a decrease in oil-not an increase). They pointed the finger at Stanley Morgan, but its really AIPAC/Zionist controlled banks/investment firms working in collusion w/ Israel, to create capital for militray campaigns. They raised the price of gas to $4/gallon, taking food from the mouths of poor american kids, so they could finance the killing of poor palestianian kids!!!! Notice everytime we get raped here in the US, Israel goes on a very expensive military campaign against palestian/lebanon, etc.
If your really outraged, start by boycotting Blockbuster, CVS Pharmacy, Google, Comcast, etc. These quasi-israeli owned businesses are also huge sources of revenue for this criminal, rogue nation...
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 14, 2009 1:37 PM
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Its also a completely Brilliant Operating System that works on Computers
Its based on UNIX
Throw Windows Out The Door
Tony
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Posted by: wormfarmer on Jan 14, 2009 2:48 PM
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Signed, The other residents of this planet.
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Posted by: Fronzy on Jan 14, 2009 3:14 PM
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Let's visit the facts:
-as appreciation for a complete withdraw from Gaza Palestinians in a free election elected a terrorist organization that has in its charter a commitment to commit genocide on Israel
-Palestinians on a massive scale indoctrinate their children in official schools and kindergartens to hate and kill Jews and rationalists, they even train small children as suicide-bomb carriers
-Palestinians follow the psychotic superstition called Islam, which warps their minds beyond our imagination
-instead on focusing on peace and future prosperity they focus on smuggling weapons
-their warfare doctrine is to make no distinction between designated militant structures and civilian ones, thus making an illusion that Israel is the bad guy.
Really people, be more rational, if it was any other country Palestinians would be wiped out a long time ago. I'm really surprised that Israel has so much patience and humanity.
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Posted by: barefeet on Jan 14, 2009 3:47 PM
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The ENTIRE US government knows this but they also know it is TABOO to even discuss it as that is also "taking issue with International Judaism."
Any hope for this ignominious end to America?
Not until we dump Christianity which REQUIRES us to publicly worship Jews.
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Posted by: ericthefool on Jan 14, 2009 11:26 PM
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The ignorance in this Country is astonishing.
How many millions of people have to die before you numbskulls wake up and make some real CHANGE and HOPE. SICK.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Jan 15, 2009 6:37 AM
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I am not a 'Friend of Israel' nor Palestine, or even the 'Evangelical' movement who only has a death wish for the other two. How to eliminate the competition, get them to kill each other while you supply the means, not only keeps your hands clean, but also quite profitable.
I was outraged (again) by Hillary's testimony at her confirmation gala, that Americans are Free to Worship whatever way they want..Yet did not mention we also have the Right to NOT Worship at all! Apparently americans are not free to Not believe in a God, or at least the One they all are killing each other over. I question their use of the term 'God' when their actions are so bloodthristy and destructive.
The Israeli Gov't is once again Endangering US because we have some Traitors who have pledged their allegience to their problems, and Not ours.
As a Natural Born American of European decent, I would not even allow our country to be used like 'protectors & Providers' for any of the countries my family escaped. WE have no Dog in this Fight. the Israeli Gov't has never reciprocated in this 'friendship' and the 'arab' countries have been screwing US for decades too. Fuck 'em both!!!
We must stop providing the ways & Means for these two warring sect to continue this Atrocity of Humanity- cut them both off of our money, weaponry and diplomatic interventions- Solve your Own Fucking Problems, you little psycho assholes!
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Posted by: gkuhl3 on Jan 16, 2009 7:41 PM
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This Israeli bombing of Gaza is inhumane and criminal.
It amounts to Genocide and those responsible ought to be brought before an international criminal court of justice.
The corporate fascist media in the U.S are nothing but Zionist apologists.
The time has come for Israel to STOP once and for all its evil colonial occupation of Palestine.
We have had enough with this domination, this unjust war against the Palestinians.
Israel has engaged in an ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, and in a outgoing expansion
of their Jewish settlements on Palestinian territories for years now.
Hamas is a consequence of the brutal, abusive and ruthless Israeli occupation.
The Palestinian people and Hamas are simply resisting and fighting for their freedom.
It's a struggle for liberation and self determination.
And for an autonomy and sovereignty that Israel has deny them for way too long now.
As long as Israel continues its heinous crimes against the Palestinians
There will be no "security for Israel" and no peace in the middle east.
We owe it to the Palestinian people to have autonomy over their territories without Israeli intervention,
occupation and control of their borders.
All the Palestinians want is a sovereign Palestinian state or Palestinian territories.
And a peaceful coexistence with Israel.
Guillermo Kuhl
gkuhl3@bellsouth.net
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He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt.
He has been given a large brain by mistake, science for him the spinal cord would fully suffice.
This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once.
Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this,
how despicable an ignorable war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action!
It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." (Albert Einstein)
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Posted by: elidude420 on Jan 13, 2009 11:56 AM
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I understand why Obama is more interested in the future than the past. However, if he refuses to acknowledge the present, the future will only grow bleaker.
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Jan 13, 2009 12:59 PM
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Given the Democratic Party's utter adherence to AIPAC and the depth of hatred building against Israel, I see little hope of either happening soon. But if you want to join a party that advocates for justice in the Middle East and everywhere else, check out www.gp.org.
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» the will of the people ...can be hard to ignore?
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» Not only off topic, but...
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Posted by: DrBrian on Jan 14, 2009 12:29 AM
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It's almost invariably the most devout Christians and Jews who advocate wholesale slaughter, and usually irreligious people who support peace.
Our government tells us its objective is to eliminate terrorism, but who can doubt that the carnage in Gaza juxtaposed with its gleeful endorsement by our government will swell the ranks of angry young men seeking revenge?
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jan 14, 2009 1:05 AM
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This isn't new. Both the US and Israel have long been scofflaws and hypocrites. A look at human rights treaties reveals that they are usually in the company of regimes they otherwise deplore.
Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Jaamat Islamia and Hamas must be absolutely giddy at the public relations and recruiting coup we have handed them.
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Posted by: james_allen on Jan 14, 2009 1:57 AM
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Poles last land to Russia in the aftermath of WWII yet we don't hear of Polish suicide bombers. Germans lost land. Etc., etc. etc. Only the Palestinians have adopted bloodlust as their guiding philosophy; why is this so attractive to "liberals"?
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Posted by: RevolutionNet on Jan 14, 2009 2:29 AM
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REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY
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Posted by: jreinhart1 on Jan 14, 2009 3:10 AM
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Obama must flush out criminals from the last executive office or he becomes nothing better than what was their previously. We must take the log out of our own eyes before we pick out the twigs from other nations. Otherwise, America is nothing but a nation led by hypocrites.
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Posted by: wewokaokie on Jan 14, 2009 3:52 AM
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Thank you, Steven Zunes, for putting this D.C. atrocity under our noses. It's time we looked in the mirror and faced our culpability.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 14, 2009 4:09 AM
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Early Friday morning the secretary of state was considering bringing the cease-fire resolution to a UNSC vote and we didn’t want her to vote for it.” Olmert said. “I said ‘get President Bush on the phone.’ They tried and told me he was in the middle of a lecture in Philadelphia. I said ‘I’m not interested, I need to speak to him now.’ He got down from the podium, went out and took the phone call.”
A beaming Olmert then described telling President Bush “the US cannot possibly vote in favor of this resolution,” and spoke with pride of how embarrassed US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was at having to abstain from voting for a resolution she helped to organize and gather support for. The US abstention shocked diplomats, and made it easier for Israel to dismiss the ceasefire out of hand. At the time of the vote Rice declared that the United States supported the draft but could not vote for it because of their “special relationship” with Israel. Just days later Rice too was lashing out at the resolution as “unacceptable.”
It's quite clear that Israeli control of US Politicians extends far beyond the Bush administration - and they have got something on nearly every individual US politician.
What exactly is it?
Why do US politicians put the interests of the Zionist Israeli Government before the interests of American people?
I am extremely puzzled how this "shitty little country (in French)"
has such enormous influence that the entire US Government are scared shitless of them.
Sure they are evil bastards - but are there no US politicians that have got the courage to stand up to such evil?
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» The corporate controlled media portrayed her as abrasive . . .
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» She was the Green Party candidate for President in 2008,
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» RE: IT IS OFCAUSE POSSIBLE THAT RICE DID NOT REALIZE THAT A CEASE FIRE HAD TO INCLUDE NOT TARGETTING
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» If they have emotions at all
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» WASP American here, not a "foreigner" terrorist sympathizer
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Posted by: robchapman on Jan 14, 2009 4:24 AM
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Hamas has placed its rocket launchers, troop cantonments, training facilities and other facilities needed to support its military operations in densely populated residential areas.
Hamas has deliberately placed these installations in these neighborhoods to use its civilians as human shields from the IDF.
Hamas seeks to gain victory over the IDF through the human sacrifice of civilians inadvertently killed by IDF combatants rather than through direct engagement with them militarily.
Hamss has cynically placed the Palestinean people in the path of IDF attacks. The IDF attacks are the response to unrestricted rocketing of Israeli residential and agricultural areas by Hamas.
Hamas are sacrificing the Palestinean people in the hope that world public opinion will force the IDF to restrict its operations and give Hamas the victory it cannot gain otherwise.
Can anyone think that the Hamas military leadership, which has placed Palestinean children in the path of IDF rockets will show any restraint in other matters?
The Hamas leadership, which has placed its own people under IDF guns, should not be given a victory for it. Instead, public opinion should urge them to take the path Sinn Fein took in the Irish struggles.
Hamas should be urged to renounce its armed wing, to cease fire unconditionally, and participate in negotiations with Israel as a responsible part of the Palestinean government.
Robert Chapman
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If its not printed or broadcasted, it never happened.
Pls. see the MSM monster for exactly what it is, an accomplice to the Crimes.
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Jan 14, 2009 6:00 AM
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Congress supports Israel because Congress IS the one dictating Israel to attack Lebanon, Palestinian ghettos.
Don't expect a change unless you are willing to throw ought every single bum from the Congress.
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Posted by: weathered on Jan 14, 2009 6:22 AM
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Connect the dots.
W/out 9/11 this sickness, this the worst time in our history had little chance of traction.
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Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield on Jan 14, 2009 7:42 AM
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Jan 14, 2009 7:46 AM
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"Concerns about Israel’s use of non-conventional and experimental weapons in the Gaza Strip are growing, with evasive comments from spokesmen and reluctance to allow independent journalists inside the tiny enclave only fuelling speculation.
The most prominent controversy is over the use of shells containing white phosphorus, which causes horrific burns when it comes into contact with skin. Under international law, phosphorus is allowed as a smokescreen to protect soldiers but treated as a chemical weapon when used against civilians.
The Israeli army maintains that it is using only weapons authorised in international law, though human rights groups have severely criticised Israel for firing phosphorus shells over densely populated areas of Gaza.
But there might be other unconventional weapons Israel is using out of sight of the watching world.
One such munition may be Dime, or dense inert metal explosive, a weapon recently developed by the US army to create a powerful and lethal blast over a small area.
The munition is supposed to still be in the development stage and is not yet regulated. There are fears, however, that Israel may have received a green light from the US military to treat Gaza as a testing ground.
“We have seen Gaza used as a laboratory for testing what I call weapons from hell,” said David Halpin, a retired British surgeon and trauma specialist who has visited Gaza on several occasions to investigate unusual injuries suffered by Gazans.
“I fear the thinking in Israel is that it is in its interests to create as much mutilation as possible to terrorise the civilian population in the hope they will turn against Hamas.”
Gaza’s doctors, including one of the few foreigners there, Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian specialist in emergency medicine working at Al Shifa hospital in Gaza City, report that many of the injuries they see are consistent with the use of Dime.
Wounds from the weapon are said to be distinctive. Those exposed to the blast have severed or melted limbs, or internal ruptures, especially to soft tissue such as the abdomen, that often lead to death.
There is said to be no shrapnel apart from a fine “dusting” of minute metal particles on damaged organs visible when autopsies are carried out. Survivors of a Dime blast are at increased risk of developing cancer, according to research carried out in the United States.
Traditional munitions, by contrast, cause large wounds wherever shrapnel penetrates the body.
“The power of the explosion dissipates very quickly and the strength does not travel long, maybe 10 metres, but those humans who are hit by this explosion, this pressure wave, are cut in pieces,” Dr Gilbert said in a recent interview.
This is not the first time concerns about Israel’s use of Dime have surfaced in Gaza. Doctors there reported strange injuries they could not treat, and from which patients died unexpectedly days later, during a prolonged wave of Israeli air strikes in 2006.
A subsequent Italian investigation found Israel was using a prototype weapon similar to Dime. Samples from victims in Gaza showed concentrations of unusual metals in their bodies.
Yitzhak Ben-Israel, the former head of the Israeli military’s weapons development programme, appeared familiar with the weapon, telling Italian TV that the short radius of the explosion helped avoid injuries to bystanders, allowing “the striking of very small targets”.
The Israeli human rights group B’Tselem has recorded numerous occasions when the Israeli army has fired flechette shells, both in Lebanon and Gaza. The shell releases thousands of tiny metal darts that cause horrible injuries."
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» Liar.
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Posted by: curiousdwk on Jan 14, 2009 7:52 AM
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Will we never learn what it takes to be a help in this world rather than a problem? What do all these Congresspeople say when asked the simple question "Why does the rest of the world not agree and even despise the US position on Israel's illegal activities?"
It's times like that this that I am ashamed to be an American.
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Posted by: DCostello2 on Jan 14, 2009 8:17 AM
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2331 Definitions
As used in this chapter—
(1) the term “international terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;
I don't know about you but it's pretty obvious that what Israel is doing constitutes International Terrorism according to US Law.
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Posted by: kwshanno on Jan 14, 2009 9:19 AM
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Posted by: ramster1 on Jan 14, 2009 9:25 AM
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Zunes might make a more credible argument if he got his facts straight.
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Posted by: iris89 on Jan 14, 2009 10:17 AM
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Second, Now, with respect Palestine there is a scripture all should consider, 1 Peter 3:11, "Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).
But neither the Ishmaelites - Hamas, nor the Hebrews - Israelites are considering it. Strange as they are both descendants of Abraham, one by Ishmael and one by Issac.
Now, even though the Ishmaelites control over 98% of the Middle East, they are greedy for the less than 2% of the Middle East belonging to their brother tribe, the Hebrews - Israelites. This is NOT the way for the descendants of Abraham who walked with Almighty God (YHWH) to act.
Why is this? It is because neither is walking with the TRUE GOD as did Abraham, but both are being mislead by none other than Satan the Devil per 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (AV).
In fact, the Ishmaelites instead of pursuing peace in accordance with what Jesus (Yeshua) the Son of God said at Matthew 22:37-40 said, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." (AV).
This is clearly shown by what one Australian Newspaper said, "Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]"
However, what the world needs is peace, not war. So clearly we can see that the Ishmaelites are in a false religion not walking with Almighty God (YHWH), the God of Abraham; nor are the Hebrews who do not recognize his son, Jesus (Yeshua), anymore than the Ishmaelites.
All need to be showing love for neighbor by exposing false beliefs that are ruining mankind by misleading him from walking with the True God of Abraham, Almighty God (YHWH).
To learn more, go to:
http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum
And going down to:
DISCUSSIONS AND EXPOSURES, and to subject Exposing False Belief A Loving Act
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Posted by: iris89 on Jan 14, 2009 10:19 AM
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Hamas is NOT seeking peace as clearly shown by Hamas' denial of the right of the Israelites to exist; whereas, Israel never has denied the right of the Palestines to existence. Nor has Israel ever used civilians as human shields or suicide bombers. Both of these practices show a clear disregard for peace and love of life and fellow man. Both the Ishmaelites - Hamas, and the Hebrews - Israelites should be walking with the TRUE GOD as did Abraham, but neither are.
For details, go to, http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/
An Educational Referral Forum and start learning the ways of peace and reality. If there are any questions or you want to discuss, PM me at this forum.
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Posted by: iris89 on Jan 14, 2009 10:22 AM
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Why do the residents of Gaza keep firing rockets and mortars at Israel if they do NOT like the humanitarian conditions it creates? Is it some kind of irrational insane self induced flagellations. It just does NOT make sense to me.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 14, 2009 10:44 AM
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When this happens the most important thing is to consider all possible options such that you don't lose any data.
Data is far more important than hardware or operating system and must be protected at all cost.
Once you have cleaned out all the shit - you find that the computer that arrived on September 11th 2001 runs like new.
I would recommend Ubuntu as the best solution.
Tony
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Posted by: tommy_slothrop on Jan 14, 2009 10:53 AM
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It is a mutualistic relationship that began to develop in 1967 and has grown over the years.
The huge amounts of weapons given to Israel has resulted in the political empowerment of the most brutal elements of Israeli society. Every state in the U.S. is now economically dependent on this weapons spending. AIPAC (the Arms Industry Political Action Commitee) now can threaten every member of the House and Senate with massive job losses among their constituents if they don't do their bidding.
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Jan 14, 2009 11:02 AM
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the siege that has created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
We also call on the United States government to end its complicity in
Israeli crimes against humanity by cutting off its $4 billion of
financial aid and flow of advanced armaments to the Israeli military.
The best way to end the atrocities would be for US taxpayers to stop
paying for them. And we join the Green Party of the US (and Naomi Klein, here on Alternet) in calling for a boycott against Israel and campaign of divestment against US companies doing business there.
On December 30th 2008, we learned with great pride that former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, the Green Party's candidate for President in 2008, was on the Dignity, a boat loaded with hospital
supplies bound for Gaza when it was rammed and nearly sunk in
international waters by Israeli ships enforcing the blockade.
According to the Israeli navy, carrying medical supplies and doctors to dying people is a form of "terrorism."
We remind the people of Oregon and of the world that the rocket attacks
from within Gaza had essentially ended under the recent truce,
until ISRAEL BROKE THE TRUCE. On Nov. 4, when the world's attention
was on the US election, Israel shelled a defensive tunnel within Gaza, killing six people. It was after that that Hamas ended the truce and resumed rocket attacks, and after that that 3 Israeli
civilians were killed. Israel's own violation of the truce thus served
as the pretext for their massive attack, which has now caused more than 900 deaths, including hundreds of women, children, and unarmed men.
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Posted by: jimswanson on Jan 14, 2009 11:23 AM
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www.bushleagueofnations.com [For FREE download of entire book]
What a fresh enlightening perspective by Stephen Zunes!
Thanks to his perspective, I will try not to blame the rightwing American villains—AIPAC, neocons and the Bush regime—for everything wrong with American policy in the Middle East.
Yes, they are culpable, but our Democratic leaders and we progressives must shoulder some of the blame too—for meekly going along with conventional wisdom.
We must work harder to reject the mainstream notion that peace in the Middle East is impossible.
We must stop supporting—whether out of fear or ignorance—every American and Israeli initiative that relies on violence, or is based on the insane premise that peaceful alternatives should be considered only after all military options have been exhausted.
Peace in the Middle East is possible.
After eight years in the wilderness, hope returns next week in the form of Barack Obama.
He and we should remember the contributions of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton to peace.
Carter’s sustained efforts helped lead to the signing of a permanent peace agreement between Israel and Egypt in 1979—a peace agreement that has never been broken. That required Carter’s strength, integrity and moral leadership—in short, diplomacy—something missing from Bush’s and the GOP’s toolkit.
Likewise, Clinton had a key role in supporting the peace process that led to the signing of a permanent peace agreement between Israel and Jordan in 1994, which agreement has never been broken.
This and much more is discussed in, “The Bush League of Nations: The Coalition of the Unwilling, the Bullied and the Bribed – the GOP’s War on Iraq and America,” by James A. Swanson (2008, CreateSpace Publishing, 448 pages).
Patriots everywhere can download the entire book for free at www.bushleagueofnations.com.
I ask for nothing in return, except that you perhaps use my book to help restore and build America.
Jim Swanson, Los Altos, CA
“The Bush League of Nations”
www.bushleagueofnations.com
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 14, 2009 11:30 AM
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It is set in Bombay (Mumbai) India
I knew nothing about it.
My wife just said - you have just got to see this - so we invited an Indian friend to come with us - who incidentally once met John Lennon in an elevator in New York and said I used to go to art college there even though she comes from Goa
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1010048/
This film is so powerful I nearly puked up in the first 10 minutes
However I thought Babel was excellent too
Seen any good movies about the current Holocaust in Gaza?
Tony
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Posted by: Garvagh on Jan 14, 2009 11:42 AM
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Posted by: Kahoneez on Jan 14, 2009 12:58 PM
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And that's part of what the apartheid regime has done , in addition to stealing WATER , cutting off electricity , murdering individuals , bombing apartment buildings knowing civilains were there , dropping white phospherous on little kids , buring them alive, something only cowardly baby killing degenerates would do and now the complicit Democrat party , the party of DEATH , and equally complicit as the pilot who dropped the bombs or shot the artillary full of chemical weapons and just as guilty .
Oh, I apologize to the previous apartheid regime, you did't attack settlements with planes , or drop white phosporous , only the murdering state of Israel has done that .
And now the complicit part of Reid , Clinton , Kerry and Obama has sent a clear message , that if your an ARAB , you are not HUMAN and deserving of sympathy or equal human rights , because your sycophantic policy of coddling, embracing and the state of Israel and their blood soaked lobbiest AIPAC , ADL is MORE IMPORTANT .
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Posted by: jakethesnake on Jan 14, 2009 1:12 PM
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If you watched 60 minutes this past week (I know it's biased) but they did screw up and investigated the huge price in gas last year, coming to the conclusion that it was speculators in the commodities market that caused the increase. They even went further, stating that there was collusion among secret traders to deliberately spike the oil market during a time when oil output was high and demand was low (which should have caused a decrease in oil-not an increase). They pointed the finger at Stanley Morgan, but its really AIPAC/Zionist controlled banks/investment firms working in collusion w/ Israel, to create capital for militray campaigns. They raised the price of gas to $4/gallon, taking food from the mouths of poor american kids, so they could finance the killing of poor palestianian kids!!!! Notice everytime we get raped here in the US, Israel goes on a very expensive military campaign against palestian/lebanon, etc.
If your really outraged, start by boycotting Blockbuster, CVS Pharmacy, Google, Comcast, etc. These quasi-israeli owned businesses are also huge sources of revenue for this criminal, rogue nation...
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 14, 2009 1:37 PM
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Its also a completely Brilliant Operating System that works on Computers
Its based on UNIX
Throw Windows Out The Door
Tony
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Posted by: wormfarmer on Jan 14, 2009 2:48 PM
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Signed, The other residents of this planet.
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Posted by: Fronzy on Jan 14, 2009 3:14 PM
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Let's visit the facts:
-as appreciation for a complete withdraw from Gaza Palestinians in a free election elected a terrorist organization that has in its charter a commitment to commit genocide on Israel
-Palestinians on a massive scale indoctrinate their children in official schools and kindergartens to hate and kill Jews and rationalists, they even train small children as suicide-bomb carriers
-Palestinians follow the psychotic superstition called Islam, which warps their minds beyond our imagination
-instead on focusing on peace and future prosperity they focus on smuggling weapons
-their warfare doctrine is to make no distinction between designated militant structures and civilian ones, thus making an illusion that Israel is the bad guy.
Really people, be more rational, if it was any other country Palestinians would be wiped out a long time ago. I'm really surprised that Israel has so much patience and humanity.
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Posted by: barefeet on Jan 14, 2009 3:47 PM
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The ENTIRE US government knows this but they also know it is TABOO to even discuss it as that is also "taking issue with International Judaism."
Any hope for this ignominious end to America?
Not until we dump Christianity which REQUIRES us to publicly worship Jews.
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Posted by: ericthefool on Jan 14, 2009 11:26 PM
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The ignorance in this Country is astonishing.
How many millions of people have to die before you numbskulls wake up and make some real CHANGE and HOPE. SICK.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Jan 15, 2009 6:37 AM
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I am not a 'Friend of Israel' nor Palestine, or even the 'Evangelical' movement who only has a death wish for the other two. How to eliminate the competition, get them to kill each other while you supply the means, not only keeps your hands clean, but also quite profitable.
I was outraged (again) by Hillary's testimony at her confirmation gala, that Americans are Free to Worship whatever way they want..Yet did not mention we also have the Right to NOT Worship at all! Apparently americans are not free to Not believe in a God, or at least the One they all are killing each other over. I question their use of the term 'God' when their actions are so bloodthristy and destructive.
The Israeli Gov't is once again Endangering US because we have some Traitors who have pledged their allegience to their problems, and Not ours.
As a Natural Born American of European decent, I would not even allow our country to be used like 'protectors & Providers' for any of the countries my family escaped. WE have no Dog in this Fight. the Israeli Gov't has never reciprocated in this 'friendship' and the 'arab' countries have been screwing US for decades too. Fuck 'em both!!!
We must stop providing the ways & Means for these two warring sect to continue this Atrocity of Humanity- cut them both off of our money, weaponry and diplomatic interventions- Solve your Own Fucking Problems, you little psycho assholes!
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Posted by: gkuhl3 on Jan 16, 2009 7:41 PM
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This Israeli bombing of Gaza is inhumane and criminal.
It amounts to Genocide and those responsible ought to be brought before an international criminal court of justice.
The corporate fascist media in the U.S are nothing but Zionist apologists.
The time has come for Israel to STOP once and for all its evil colonial occupation of Palestine.
We have had enough with this domination, this unjust war against the Palestinians.
Israel has engaged in an ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, and in a outgoing expansion
of their Jewish settlements on Palestinian territories for years now.
Hamas is a consequence of the brutal, abusive and ruthless Israeli occupation.
The Palestinian people and Hamas are simply resisting and fighting for their freedom.
It's a struggle for liberation and self determination.
And for an autonomy and sovereignty that Israel has deny them for way too long now.
As long as Israel continues its heinous crimes against the Palestinians
There will be no "security for Israel" and no peace in the middle east.
We owe it to the Palestinian people to have autonomy over their territories without Israeli intervention,
occupation and control of their borders.
All the Palestinians want is a sovereign Palestinian state or Palestinian territories.
And a peaceful coexistence with Israel.
Guillermo Kuhl
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He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt.
He has been given a large brain by mistake, science for him the spinal cord would fully suffice.
This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once.
Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this,
how despicable an ignorable war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action!
It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." (Albert Einstein)
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