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The Afghan Scam: Why the U.S. Is Certain to Fail in Yet Another War
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The first of 20,000 to 30,000 additional U.S. troops are scheduled to arrive in Afghanistan next month to re-win the war George W. Bush neglected to finish in his eagerness to start another one. However, "winning" the military campaign against the Taliban is the lesser half of the story.
Going into Afghanistan, the Bush administration called for a political campaign to reconstruct the country and thereby establish the authority of a stable, democratic Afghan central government. It was understood that the two campaigns -- military and political/economic -- had to go forward together; the success of each depended on the other. But the vision of a reconstructed, peaceful, stable, democratically governed Afghanistan faded fast. Most Afghans now believe that it was nothing but a cover story for the Bush administration's real goal -- to set up permanent bases in Afghanistan and occupy the country forever.
Whatever the truth of the matter, in the long run, it's not soldiers but services that count -- electricity, water, food, health care, justice, and jobs. Had the U.S. delivered the promised services on time, while employing Afghans to rebuild their own country according to their own priorities and under the supervision of their own government -- a mini-Marshall Plan -- they would now be in charge of their own defense. The forces on the other side, which we loosely call the Taliban, would also have lost much of their grounds for complaint.
Instead, the Bush administration perpetrated a scam. It used the system it set up to dispense reconstruction aid to both the countries it "liberated," Afghanistan and Iraq, to transfer American taxpayer dollars from the national treasury directly into the pockets of private war profiteers. Think of Halliburton, Bechtel, and Blackwater in Iraq; Louis Berger Group, Bearing Point, and DynCorp International in Afghanistan. They're all in it together. So far, the Bush administration has bamboozled Americans about its shady aid program. Nobody talks about it. Yet the aid scam, which would be a scandal if it weren't so profitable for so many, explains far more than does troop strength about why, today, we are on the verge of watching the whole Afghan enterprise go belly up.
What's worse, there's no reason to expect that things will change significantly on Barack Obama's watch. During the election campaign, he called repeatedly for more troops for "the right war" in Afghanistan (while pledging to draw-down U.S. forces in Iraq), but he has yet to say a significant word about the reconstruction mission. While many aid workers in that country remain full of good intentions, the delivery systems for and uses of U.S. aid have been so thoroughly corrupted that we can only expect more of the same -- unless Obama cleans house fast. But given the monumental problems on his plate, how likely is that?
The Jolly Privateers
It's hard to overstate the magnitude of the failure of American reconstruction in Afghanistan. While the U.S. has occupied the country -- for seven years and counting -- and efficiently set up a network of bases and prisons, it has yet to restore to Kabul, the capital, a mud brick city slightly more populous than Houston, a single one of the public services its citizens used to enjoy. When the Soviets occupied Afghanistan in the 1980s, they modernized the education system and built power plants, dams, factories, and apartment blocs, still the most coveted in the country. If, in the last seven years, George W. Bush did not get the lights back on in the capital, or the water flowing, or dispose of the sewage or trash, how can we assume Barack Obama will do any better with the corrupt system he's about to inherit?
Between 2002 and 2008, the U.S. pledged $10.4 billion dollars in "development" (reconstruction) aid to Afghanistan, but actually delivered only $5 billion of that amount. Considering that the U.S. is spending $36 billion a year on the war in Afghanistan and about $8 billion a month on the war in Iraq, that $5 billion in development aid looks paltry indeed. But keep in mind that, in a country as poor as Afghanistan, a little well spent money can make a big difference.
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Posted by: Moodotv on Jan 12, 2009 3:32 AM
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Pray that Obama can think outside the box and reverse the curse.
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Posted by: pfgetty on Jan 12, 2009 4:42 AM
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Our media has made sure Americans believe this official story, and so the media is to blame for the war.
Alternative Media, including Alternet, has conspired with the rest to ignore the truth about 9/11. Seven years, the biggest story maybe of all time, and they have one or two articles that paint a confusing picture of 9/11. I call that conspiracy to ensure the American people do not wake up to the truth of 9/11.
There should have been hundreds of articles, following hundreds of threads of contradictions, outright provable lies, and evidence about 9/11. Any decent, honest, professional journalist would have gone into this subject with zeal..........almost unstoppable. But something stopped them all...........how did that happen? How did the management/owners of Alternet censor the journalists? Who pressured Alternet? Did big donors, happy with the fraudulent official story, threaten to pull their support? Did federal agents threaten Alternet leaders? What happened? Alternet won't tell us.
So, Alternet, if you don't like the Afghan war, but you won't join the campaign to tell the American people about the truth of 9/11, then just put up with the Afghan war...........in fact, why don't you have stories telling us how important it is to be there?
Journalists purposely misleading the public in such crucial, life and death issues like this are very close to being treasonous.
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Posted by: isnamthere on Jan 12, 2009 5:20 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. Will the american people ever get the full truth about 9-11. That's the least that we're owed if their going to beat us over the head with that attack as an excuse for every underhanded, unlawful act they wish to commit. Unfortunately, the majority of the american sheeple are more than happy to be warm and cozy with the official bullshit 9-11 story.
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jan 12, 2009 7:18 AM
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With the economic catastrophe that the Bush regime has brought us can we still afford to pursue this foolish war? With world energy resources dwindling and the climate deteriorating around the world can we still afford to fly fighter planes and drive Hummers and tanks around wastefully in a foreign land?
What do we expect to gain by this military adventure? How will we know if and when we have succeeded? Does it make any sense to continue this war if we cannot give satisfactory answers to these questions?
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Posted by: Canute on Jan 12, 2009 7:26 AM
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From Alexander the Great forward, this has been true. The Soviet Union received the final cut there, and we are next. The Afghans are playing with us the way they have with every other invader for centuries. They always endure till the latest empire gives up and leaves.
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Posted by: Hechicera on Jan 12, 2009 11:16 AM
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The article explains a lot about what a friend from this area was trying to tell me. Yes, the US falling down on "securing the peace" after the military action means we will lose, and since peace wasn't secured we now have given the Taliban time to regroup, learn our tactics, find clandestine backers and come back.
We also support the government in Pakistan, militarily and with aid. Almost none of it goes to make people's lives better in the border region with Afghanistan. I hear many of them might even consider US support too, if we'd do things like build them a school, then guard it from the Taliban coming across the border, or make sure the military and political elite start to share development aide to the actual impoverished countryside that needs it and not the large cities ... common sense, you'd think.
The comments about behavior by US military officers also concerns me deeply. I come from a military family. All my Uncles served, my brother, most cousins. We seem to think purges of top military leaders due to political issues, and military corruption are things that happen elsewhere. I do not look at the military of today and see the military of my father's time (WW2). We in the US think it is inconceivable that our military could ever act against us. I am beginning to think it may be a valid worry for my children, They may fear their own military if its current course is not corrected and it returned to previous ideals.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jan 12, 2009 11:34 AM
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Do I dare even mention the corruption in the Afghan government, by "our guy" Karzai. While I realize that the media learned the lesson to keep quiet (ala Dan Rather) about this Mis-administration, I am totally disgusted by their agenda to continuously dis-inform the American people! The media used to be the 4th estate of government! While there are a few newspapers and journalists out there that are doing a good job of informing the public, I've got to ask - if you wanted to be a celebrity, than why didn't you go into acting?!
When and why did "news" become something that needed to be profitable?! What happened to being the vehicle that was informative to the public?! Or is this what the public gets when "the corporate rich" are the owners of the papers, dis-information?! Enough!!
Instead of giving us superfluous non-sense about "stars", how about delving into why Congress didn't attach rules and regulation regarding how the money was to be spent and where! Granted Afghanistan was poor when we started, but where there no Afghani's that had building businesses, were there no Afghani's in charge of the water! How about employing Afghani's to re-build their country, and stop filling the trough of already rich American corporations!!!!!
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Posted by: PaulK on Jan 12, 2009 4:39 PM
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I watched for seven years as the U.S. Army drove a bunch of idiots out of Afghanistan, replaced them with heroin dealers, then bombed half of the heroin fields with toxic pesticides, tortured people's relatives because someone turned them in for cash, attacked wedding parties with bombing runs, and built random buildings willy-nilly without asking the locals much of anything.
The rebels regrouped, often over the border in Pakistan, sometimes in Afghanistan.
The rebels copied successful tactics used in Iraq. Guerrilla war is like pesticides vs. bugs. 90% of the bugs are killed off but the rest learn to adapt. Soon none of the old anti-rebel weapons work.
The main U.S. weapon is more and more terror. We're scared of "terrorists" because they're armed with the same weapon that we use.
Democracy is a notion that works when ingrained in a country's citizens. Afghanis now living in America understand it well, and they participate. Today, Afghanistan shows not the least movement toward an ingrained democracy. Girls don't go to school, or else they are killed. Almost no one reads.
Elections are often not real. Citizens are dependent on their local heroin warlords for income and for their protection from the warlord's gunmen. They vote like someone is looking over their shoulders.
It's almost irrelevant when outsiders come and build some municipal building, then leave. What good is the building at night?
If Obama's administration doesn't want the "stoopid warmonger" label that W. Bush wore, then they need to define peace on Afghani terms. If elections are bogus then take random sample polls and declare a winner by polling results. If the American occupiers can't run an honest Afghani election either, then they should give up and ship out.
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Posted by: logansafi on Jan 13, 2009 10:00 AM
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This was another great commentary posted online, Alternet. This site would grow even better if you did have a better links section though. Even though commondreams keeps me and others from even being able to read their commentaries posted there (they are sensitive to criticizing their pro-DP viewpoints), let alone comment on them, I do go to the site still just to link to other websites of interest to me, including even here. If alternet would only set up some links, then I would abandon the commondreams pro-Democratic Party scam site altogether.
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jan 14, 2009 3:18 AM
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The Russians tell us to stay out of Afganistan. The Sicherheitdeinst and the Surrete' told us there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. DeGaul told Kennedy to stay out of Viet Nam. Despite the Teddy Roosevelt bragging about San Juan Hill, self serving history conveniently forgets the following 9 years of warfare in the Phillipines. That failure still recruits AlQuaida(sp.?).
American arrogance, the 1950s ugly American, is our Achilles heel. We have the gall to suggest that the Asian smile hides arrogance. We accuse others of arrogance while loudly professing our innocence to each other.
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Posted by: Moodotv on Jan 12, 2009 3:32 AM
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Pray that Obama can think outside the box and reverse the curse.
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Posted by: pfgetty on Jan 12, 2009 4:42 AM
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Our media has made sure Americans believe this official story, and so the media is to blame for the war.
Alternative Media, including Alternet, has conspired with the rest to ignore the truth about 9/11. Seven years, the biggest story maybe of all time, and they have one or two articles that paint a confusing picture of 9/11. I call that conspiracy to ensure the American people do not wake up to the truth of 9/11.
There should have been hundreds of articles, following hundreds of threads of contradictions, outright provable lies, and evidence about 9/11. Any decent, honest, professional journalist would have gone into this subject with zeal..........almost unstoppable. But something stopped them all...........how did that happen? How did the management/owners of Alternet censor the journalists? Who pressured Alternet? Did big donors, happy with the fraudulent official story, threaten to pull their support? Did federal agents threaten Alternet leaders? What happened? Alternet won't tell us.
So, Alternet, if you don't like the Afghan war, but you won't join the campaign to tell the American people about the truth of 9/11, then just put up with the Afghan war...........in fact, why don't you have stories telling us how important it is to be there?
Journalists purposely misleading the public in such crucial, life and death issues like this are very close to being treasonous.
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» HaHaHaHa! Monbiot's article is itself a conspiracy theory!
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» But you DO believe in conspiracy theories, EncinoM
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» Do your homework, EncinoM, instead of telling half-truths
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Posted by: isnamthere on Jan 12, 2009 5:20 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. Will the american people ever get the full truth about 9-11. That's the least that we're owed if their going to beat us over the head with that attack as an excuse for every underhanded, unlawful act they wish to commit. Unfortunately, the majority of the american sheeple are more than happy to be warm and cozy with the official bullshit 9-11 story.
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jan 12, 2009 7:18 AM
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With the economic catastrophe that the Bush regime has brought us can we still afford to pursue this foolish war? With world energy resources dwindling and the climate deteriorating around the world can we still afford to fly fighter planes and drive Hummers and tanks around wastefully in a foreign land?
What do we expect to gain by this military adventure? How will we know if and when we have succeeded? Does it make any sense to continue this war if we cannot give satisfactory answers to these questions?
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Posted by: Canute on Jan 12, 2009 7:26 AM
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From Alexander the Great forward, this has been true. The Soviet Union received the final cut there, and we are next. The Afghans are playing with us the way they have with every other invader for centuries. They always endure till the latest empire gives up and leaves.
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Posted by: Hechicera on Jan 12, 2009 11:16 AM
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The article explains a lot about what a friend from this area was trying to tell me. Yes, the US falling down on "securing the peace" after the military action means we will lose, and since peace wasn't secured we now have given the Taliban time to regroup, learn our tactics, find clandestine backers and come back.
We also support the government in Pakistan, militarily and with aid. Almost none of it goes to make people's lives better in the border region with Afghanistan. I hear many of them might even consider US support too, if we'd do things like build them a school, then guard it from the Taliban coming across the border, or make sure the military and political elite start to share development aide to the actual impoverished countryside that needs it and not the large cities ... common sense, you'd think.
The comments about behavior by US military officers also concerns me deeply. I come from a military family. All my Uncles served, my brother, most cousins. We seem to think purges of top military leaders due to political issues, and military corruption are things that happen elsewhere. I do not look at the military of today and see the military of my father's time (WW2). We in the US think it is inconceivable that our military could ever act against us. I am beginning to think it may be a valid worry for my children, They may fear their own military if its current course is not corrected and it returned to previous ideals.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jan 12, 2009 11:34 AM
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Do I dare even mention the corruption in the Afghan government, by "our guy" Karzai. While I realize that the media learned the lesson to keep quiet (ala Dan Rather) about this Mis-administration, I am totally disgusted by their agenda to continuously dis-inform the American people! The media used to be the 4th estate of government! While there are a few newspapers and journalists out there that are doing a good job of informing the public, I've got to ask - if you wanted to be a celebrity, than why didn't you go into acting?!
When and why did "news" become something that needed to be profitable?! What happened to being the vehicle that was informative to the public?! Or is this what the public gets when "the corporate rich" are the owners of the papers, dis-information?! Enough!!
Instead of giving us superfluous non-sense about "stars", how about delving into why Congress didn't attach rules and regulation regarding how the money was to be spent and where! Granted Afghanistan was poor when we started, but where there no Afghani's that had building businesses, were there no Afghani's in charge of the water! How about employing Afghani's to re-build their country, and stop filling the trough of already rich American corporations!!!!!
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Posted by: PaulK on Jan 12, 2009 4:39 PM
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I watched for seven years as the U.S. Army drove a bunch of idiots out of Afghanistan, replaced them with heroin dealers, then bombed half of the heroin fields with toxic pesticides, tortured people's relatives because someone turned them in for cash, attacked wedding parties with bombing runs, and built random buildings willy-nilly without asking the locals much of anything.
The rebels regrouped, often over the border in Pakistan, sometimes in Afghanistan.
The rebels copied successful tactics used in Iraq. Guerrilla war is like pesticides vs. bugs. 90% of the bugs are killed off but the rest learn to adapt. Soon none of the old anti-rebel weapons work.
The main U.S. weapon is more and more terror. We're scared of "terrorists" because they're armed with the same weapon that we use.
Democracy is a notion that works when ingrained in a country's citizens. Afghanis now living in America understand it well, and they participate. Today, Afghanistan shows not the least movement toward an ingrained democracy. Girls don't go to school, or else they are killed. Almost no one reads.
Elections are often not real. Citizens are dependent on their local heroin warlords for income and for their protection from the warlord's gunmen. They vote like someone is looking over their shoulders.
It's almost irrelevant when outsiders come and build some municipal building, then leave. What good is the building at night?
If Obama's administration doesn't want the "stoopid warmonger" label that W. Bush wore, then they need to define peace on Afghani terms. If elections are bogus then take random sample polls and declare a winner by polling results. If the American occupiers can't run an honest Afghani election either, then they should give up and ship out.
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Posted by: logansafi on Jan 13, 2009 10:00 AM
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This was another great commentary posted online, Alternet. This site would grow even better if you did have a better links section though. Even though commondreams keeps me and others from even being able to read their commentaries posted there (they are sensitive to criticizing their pro-DP viewpoints), let alone comment on them, I do go to the site still just to link to other websites of interest to me, including even here. If alternet would only set up some links, then I would abandon the commondreams pro-Democratic Party scam site altogether.
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Posted by: tommy_slothrop on Jan 13, 2009 11:33 AM
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jan 14, 2009 3:18 AM
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The Russians tell us to stay out of Afganistan. The Sicherheitdeinst and the Surrete' told us there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. DeGaul told Kennedy to stay out of Viet Nam. Despite the Teddy Roosevelt bragging about San Juan Hill, self serving history conveniently forgets the following 9 years of warfare in the Phillipines. That failure still recruits AlQuaida(sp.?).
American arrogance, the 1950s ugly American, is our Achilles heel. We have the gall to suggest that the Asian smile hides arrogance. We accuse others of arrogance while loudly professing our innocence to each other.
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