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The New Gulf War Syndrome
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As politicians argue about healthcare for veterans, it is generally people like Sgt Schei that they have in mind, men and women torn apart by a bullet or bomb. And of course, these Iraq war veterans must receive the best care available for such complex and catastrophic injuries.
Unfortunately, the dangers of modern war extend far beyond weapons. As Iraqis know only too well, areas of Iraq today are among the most polluted on the planet -- so toxic that merely to live, eat and sleep (never mind to fight) in these zones is to risk death. Thousands of soldiers coming home from the war may have been exposed to chemicals that are known to cause cancers and neurological problems. What's most tragic is that the veterans themselves do not always realize that they are in danger from chemical poisoning. Right now, there is no clear way for Iraq war veterans to find out what they've been exposed to and where to get help.
In October, the Military Times reported on the open-air pits on U.S. bases in Iraq, where troops incinerate tons of waste. Because of such pits, tens of thousands of soldiers may be breathing air contaminated with burning Freon, jet fuel and other carcinogens. According to reports, soldiers are coughing up blood or the black goop that has been nicknamed "plume crud".
In other cases, soldiers may have been exposed to poisons spread during efforts to restore Iraq's infrastructure. In 2003, for instance, members of the Indiana national guard were put in charge of protecting a water-treatment plant. They were told not to worry about the bright orange dust lying in piles around the plant, swirling in the air and gathering in the folds of their uniforms. In fact, Indiana soldiers spent weeks or months in a wasteland contaminated with sodium dichromate. The chemical, made famous after its role as the villain in the movie Erin Brockovich, is used to peel corrosion off of water pipes. It is a carcinogen that attacks the lungs and sinuses.
Today, a decade and a half after the first Gulf war, we know that such exposure may lead to widespread suffering. In 1991, veterans began to exhibit fatigue, fevers, rashes, joint pain, intestinal problems, memory loss, mood swings and even cancers, a cluster of symptoms and conditions referred to now as Gulf war syndrome (or illness). For years, the U.S. department of defense maintained that stress caused the veterans' symptoms. Veterans groups blamed war-related toxins. This year, the National Academy of Sciences published an extensive review of years of scientific study of Gulf war illness that concluded a cause and effect relationship existed between the widespread illnesses among veterans and exposure to powerful neurotoxins. Complementing the U.S. studies is an emerging body of epidemiological data linking increased incidence of Iraqi cancer, birth defects, infant mortality and multi-system diseases to toxic exposure.
Strangely enough, though, there has been almost no discussion of whether today's soldiers -- those fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan -- have also been injured by wartime poisons. We don't have a word yet for the constellation of cancers, psychological ills and systemic diseases that may be caused by toxins in today's wars.
In order to care for our veterans, we must do more than offer state-of-the-art hospitals and high-tech prosthetics. Veterans will need information about what poisons they have breathed or touched or drunk and when.
What would such an effort look like? First the military would need to disclose all known incidents of toxic exposure. Then it would have to reach out to veterans and give them information about how to receive care for conditions that arise from this exposure.
This summer, senator Evan Bayh made a first stab at such a system. Bayh pushed the national guard to track down hundreds of those Indiana soldiers who may have breathed orange dust back in 2003. Most of the soldiers are now civilians scattered across the U.S., unaware that they are at high risk for lung cancer and other respiratory diseases. Some of them may already be struggling with illness. The national guard is making an effort to search for these veterans and provide them with a phone number to call in order to seek medical help.
That's a good first step. But what about all the other veterans who believe that they have returned home from the war healthy? Without knowing it, they may be carrying a small bomb inside them. And they have a right to know.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 11, 2008 4:56 PM
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Nov 11, 2008 10:31 PM
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I wonder if the Bushies, the Repub party and their Religious Right can be sued for damage or death to the fetus via their exposure of it to these toxic chemicals.
And the beat goes on, it just keeps going on, sickeningly on.
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Posted by: Quannah on Nov 12, 2008 10:22 AM
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Depleted Uranium shells are armor-piercing shells and, thus, used often by US forces. Uranium is not only a carcinogen, but causes serious cellular/chromosomal damage that can be passed on to the next generation.
It isn't just US troops being permanently damaged by DU weapons, but Iraqis have reported higher incidents of cancer, miscarriages, birth defects, and all kinds of horrors.
The Congress needs to pass a bill outlawing DU weapons so this can never happen again.
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Posted by: GrannyBgood on Nov 14, 2008 7:47 AM
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An International Crime against humanity that affects our troops too.
(remember how hard it was for our soldiers to get help after exposure to Agent orange? The military would rather deny its existence than own up to their responsibilities!) I fear for my foolish, Gung-ho nephew who wants to go back there and make the military his career (Physically, psychologically and spiritually!). Has he even had a chance to see this information to make an intelligent choice, I wonder?
Meanwhile, how convenient for our warmongers and oil-grubbers: Just spread enough DUI around and it will eventually kill off everything in the region,(That includes our troops) leaving nothing but the OIL!
Who needs all those messy inconvenient living beings, anyway?
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Posted by: hilaryuk on Nov 15, 2008 12:42 PM
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Obama might well initiate some sort of partial withdrawal in Iraq, but he is apparently intending to step up the war in Afghanistan and the Pakistan borderlands. If he is content to allow the continued tacit use of chemical warfare, he may have difficulty convincing the civilian populations that America really is changing.
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Posted by: follow the money on Nov 16, 2008 2:34 PM
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"Beyond Treason" the US govts long history of conducting deadly military experiments, with the documents that prove it.
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Nov 16, 2008 5:07 PM
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So now, as the only other personin the house to care for my dying wife besides her bed-ridden self, the VA managed to cripple me even beyond my 100% SSDI disability rating (the VA has lost my VA disability rating), we qualify for little because we "make too much money on SSDI") and turn me into what will likely be to proximate cause of her early death through neglect. There's only so much I'm able to do.
I've been in touch with other vets around the country, and it's happening everywhere: they seem toe making a little extra room for the new vets by trying to see the old ones into death to make that room. There's all kinds of recourse: Congressional reps, VA administrators, state advocates and so on, but they all feed from essentially the same trough, it takes forever, and the answer always seems to be the same: "No".
Double binds, appointments the patients were never informed of, medications and proceedures that make to problems worse or add new ones, but if refused, they get the patient labeled "uncooperative" and can result in loss of benefits and treatment. They can also tell us that we are not being deprived of anything; we can go to the VA ER (150 miles away for me, and I can't leave my wife alone; she chokes sometimes, the power goes out and she can't switch to tank O2 alone), or they offer specialty consultations (back and forth 300 miles a day, three or four days a week), and on and on. On paper it looks like we've been offered the world for nothing, but all we've really gotten is the same old finger.
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Posted by: Noor on Nov 17, 2008 6:44 AM
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What you do not seem to understand is that there is a second genocide in place and that is the eradication of the American male.
The elite set out to remove American males from the picture a few decades ago because they were would resist the oncoming NWO because of their independence. Muslims and Americans, think of this, are alike in their refusal to accept the NWO and loss of freedoms.
So, the filthy old men send the young and healthy off to war to do THEIR dirty work. Then they do as little as possible with the survivors, deny any illness that cannot be measured even though they are very aware of the dangers posed to these men and women by the toxicity they are exposed to. In fact, don't educate them about DU, even though you know what it does, so that the poison does as much insidious killing and destruction as possible.
As Kissinger said, soldiers are just dumb beasts to be used for political purposes.
When the soldiers return, they bring with them damaged bodies, damaged genes, damaged hearts and damaged minds. This is also a way to lower the population of Americans and make lives more stressful. Breaking the medical system with such complications helped break Russia. Look for this coming to a soldier you know.
America has been under attack by the elite for several decades now, the male since the fifties esp. This is a long term plan coming to fruition.
Do not expect a lot of change from your new Pres. To quote the Who, "Meet the old boss, same as the new boss!"
Obama's MENTOR is Zbigniew Brzezinski, Kissinger's NWO equivalent, and once Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser. This is the "man" who brags that he brought about the fall of Russia by instigating the Russian/Afghan War.
It breaks my heart to see my friends, the American people, duped by the Obummer machine. He is advised by some of the dirtiest people on the planet and, since he was born and bred for the role he plays now, he will obey. It is convenient how the fact he is blood relative to both Cheney and Bush was brushed under the rug. And his CFR ties were not mentioned at all.
He will continue the genocide but move it over towards Afghanistan and Pakistan; Pak is already being bombed but it goes unreported. More civilians and more of your youth will go and die ~ genocide goes on of both civilians and America's young males.
REMEMBER WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS DESTROY THE ENTIRE PLANET AND THEN REMAKE IT IN THEIR OWN IMAGE! WAKE UP AMERICA!
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Posted by: silver flute on Nov 17, 2008 11:30 PM
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Random phone surveys done in at least 4 states have shown that there are currently between 6,000,000 and 10,000,000 people very ill with MCS in the US alone. That is between 2-2.4% of our population. A very high number, and yet the CDC and health people won't admit it's happening. Worse, many have been called crazy, denied health care and benefits while trying to live in a world that they can not tolerate now.
If the VA is admitting this and wants to "locate" possible wounded vets that might have been epxosed, what is to say that this isn't to get them to sign off on their injuries yet to manifest. This is what happened in the Vietnam war with agent orange. The VA pulled all the Viet Nam vets in for a physical, that was really a joke. My ex-husband went for his, and it included blood pressure, heart listen and lungs listen, and "please sign this saying you don't have effects from agent orange".It absolved the government when they knew damn well there was damage. He does now, and....so do I. Yup, that's right. It seems that the toxins are concentrated in the seminal fluid and shared with the wife when they came home. Not to mention that there are numbers of injured children who weren't even born then...and that is true for the Gulf War, too.
The good news is there is now a treatment to help de-toxify the brain from the effects of the chemicals. Check out National Toxic Encephalopathy Foundation's website. It's expensive and it's not covered by insurance. It will clear up what can be cleared up, but much of this injury won't go away...it's permanent.
In addition, the doctors who specialize in treating MCS are being forced out of practice because their message goes counter to the Big Pharma....who must survive on toxic chemicals, even if they aren't good for us. Think Vioxx!!
I am happy this is finally out in the open, but Vets beware. The wolf is wearing VA suits.
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Posted by: dr doug on Dec 3, 2008 1:01 PM
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Analysis of VA Health Care Utilization
Among US Global War on Terrorism
(GWOT) Veterans
Operation Enduring Freedom
Operation Iraqi Freedom
VHA Office of Public Health and Environmental Hazards
August 2008
Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 7
VA Health Care Utilization from FY 2002 through 2008 (2 nd QT) Among OEF and OIF Veterans
• Among all 868,717 separated OEF/ OIF Veterans
– 40% (347,750) of total separated OEF/ OIF veterans
have obtained VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)
• 96% (333,007) of 347,750 evaluated OEF/ OIF patients have
been seen as outpatients only by VA and not hospitalized
• 4% (14,743) of 347,750 evaluated OEF/ OIF patients have
been hospitalized at least once in a VA health care facility
Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 8
VA Health Care Utilization for FY 2002-
2008 (2 nd QT) by Service Component
• 437,873 Former Active Duty Troops
– 41% (179,475) have sought VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)
• 430,844 Reserve/ National Guard Members
– 39% (168,275) have sought VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)
Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 11
Demographic Characteristics of OEF and
OIF Veterans Utilizing VA Health Care
%
OEF/
OIF Veterans
(n =
347,750)
Sex
Male 88 %
Female 12
Age Group
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Posted by: dr doug on Dec 3, 2008 1:07 PM
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Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 13
Frequency of Possible Diagnoses
Among OEF and OIF Veterans Diagnosis (n = 347,750)
(Broad ICD- 9 Categories) Frequency * %
Infectious and Parasitic Diseases (001- 139) 40,956 11.8
Malignant Neoplasms (140- 208) 3,248 0. 9
Benign Neoplasms (210- 239) 13,910 4.0
Diseases of Endocrine/ Nutritional/ Metabolic Systems (240- 279) 75,850 21.8
Diseases of Blood and Blood Forming Organs (280- 289) 7,675 2.2
Mental Disorders (290- 319) 147,744 42.5
Diseases of Nervous System/ Sense Organs (320- 389) 121,473 34.9
Diseases of Circulatory System (390- 459) 56, 900 16.4
Disease of Respiratory System (460- 519) 71,087 20.4
Disease of Digestive System (520- 579) 110,449 31.8
Diseases of Genitourinary System (580- 629) 37,118 10.7
Diseases of Skin (680- 709) 55,797 16.0
Diseases of Musculoskeletal System/ Connective System (710- 739) 165,439 47.6
Symptoms, Signs and Ill Defined Conditions (780- 799) 138,043 39.7
Injury/ Poisonings (800- 999) 73,767 21.2
*These are cumulative data since FY 2002, with data on hospitalizations and outpatient visits as of March 31, 2008; veterans can have multiple diagnoses with each healthcare encounter. A veteran is counted only once in any single diagnostic category but can be counted in multiple categories, so the above numbers add up to greater than 347,750.
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Posted by: dr doug on Dec 3, 2008 1:16 PM
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Gulf War I exposure summary. Prepared by Dr. Doug Rokke, Ph.D., Major, MS, USAR
1. Depleted Uranium munitions
2. Chemical agents
3. Immunizations-
4. Radiological materials-
5. Endemic diseases
6. Hazardous materials
7. Pesticides-
8. Biological agents-
9. Oil well fires-
10. Food and water borne illnesses
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Posted by: steelrainsi91 on Dec 7, 2008 6:07 AM
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and dont forget it's all in your head. Here take some more psych meds. We all know the story. So lets hope and pray for a change that is long over do concerning sick Gulf War Veterans. I would like to see the VA shut down and all Veterans given medical cards. Have the soldier rated during out-processing from there prospective branches and put all those VA employees who treat us like we owe them out of work. Make the ones who can go out and get a real job. We are talking about the medical industry jobs should not be a problem for the ones who do thier jobs and are good at what they do and for the ones who had no choice but to seek employment from the Government so they are protected against all the mistakes and lack of knowledge hit the road. I am not sorry I feel this why I have given the VA more chances than I would have ever received during my 10 years of active duty service. It is called dereliction of duty. And game over.
Mike R.
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Posted by: steelrainsi91 on Dec 7, 2008 6:14 AM
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I served for Ten years on active duty and a few in the National Guard. I am very proud of my service and wish I could still serve. In short I am Airborne Qualified, 63TD3P20 Soldier. I was awarded the Bronze Star Medal for my performance during the War. I have also been awarded the Army Commendation medal and 5 Army achievement medals and many others. I was an E5-P in E-7 slots (Sergeant First Class Positions) the last years of my active duty service. I was highly Trained Motivated and Good at what I did. I have all the paper work to back up what I say. And I have not even scratched the surface of my service to this Country. That I love so much. I am nobody special. But I have proved myself to be trust worthy and my opinion at one time counted. The Military was my life.
Others and I are sick and have been for a very long time and need help. I am sorry that I am not made of steel. I am human after all. Never thought I would say that one.
I lost my first wife to divorce and my first child to a problem with the pregnancy and my 1st wife took it much harder than me. Marriage over. My problems are the same as all the rest of us who are sick . So I will skip that part. Was re-married and had 1st child who was hospitalized twice for unknown reason. Buy that time I was pretty sick to. I have one other child who was born in 1998 who seems fine. I lost our home and all of our belongings in 1999 and became homeless with three kids and a great wife. (WOW) I still can’t believe it. I was on around 13 prescriptions at the time. And my fight with the VA had started years before and they knew I was sick. I was also in a very bad training accident in 1989 and that alone was causing me major problems. So I was double trouble to the VA. It was and has been a very long road and I did win my fight with the VA and am rated 100% and I still need medical attention and I can’t seem to get anyone at the VA to listen and understand my life is terrible and I have real medical problems and it not in my head. Well it is, the pain, headaches, and eyes and so on.
We are sick, we served this Nation when the time came. It’s time for this Nation to step up to the plate and help us. We need it. Too many have already died to include my best friend. What is it going to take. For the VA help us.
Mike R.
ordesertvet@aol.com
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Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 11, 2008 4:56 PM
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Nov 11, 2008 10:31 PM
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I wonder if the Bushies, the Repub party and their Religious Right can be sued for damage or death to the fetus via their exposure of it to these toxic chemicals.
And the beat goes on, it just keeps going on, sickeningly on.
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Posted by: Quannah on Nov 12, 2008 10:22 AM
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Depleted Uranium shells are armor-piercing shells and, thus, used often by US forces. Uranium is not only a carcinogen, but causes serious cellular/chromosomal damage that can be passed on to the next generation.
It isn't just US troops being permanently damaged by DU weapons, but Iraqis have reported higher incidents of cancer, miscarriages, birth defects, and all kinds of horrors.
The Congress needs to pass a bill outlawing DU weapons so this can never happen again.
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Posted by: GrannyBgood on Nov 14, 2008 7:47 AM
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An International Crime against humanity that affects our troops too.
(remember how hard it was for our soldiers to get help after exposure to Agent orange? The military would rather deny its existence than own up to their responsibilities!) I fear for my foolish, Gung-ho nephew who wants to go back there and make the military his career (Physically, psychologically and spiritually!). Has he even had a chance to see this information to make an intelligent choice, I wonder?
Meanwhile, how convenient for our warmongers and oil-grubbers: Just spread enough DUI around and it will eventually kill off everything in the region,(That includes our troops) leaving nothing but the OIL!
Who needs all those messy inconvenient living beings, anyway?
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Posted by: hilaryuk on Nov 15, 2008 12:42 PM
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Obama might well initiate some sort of partial withdrawal in Iraq, but he is apparently intending to step up the war in Afghanistan and the Pakistan borderlands. If he is content to allow the continued tacit use of chemical warfare, he may have difficulty convincing the civilian populations that America really is changing.
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Posted by: follow the money on Nov 16, 2008 2:34 PM
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"Beyond Treason" the US govts long history of conducting deadly military experiments, with the documents that prove it.
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Nov 16, 2008 5:07 PM
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So now, as the only other personin the house to care for my dying wife besides her bed-ridden self, the VA managed to cripple me even beyond my 100% SSDI disability rating (the VA has lost my VA disability rating), we qualify for little because we "make too much money on SSDI") and turn me into what will likely be to proximate cause of her early death through neglect. There's only so much I'm able to do.
I've been in touch with other vets around the country, and it's happening everywhere: they seem toe making a little extra room for the new vets by trying to see the old ones into death to make that room. There's all kinds of recourse: Congressional reps, VA administrators, state advocates and so on, but they all feed from essentially the same trough, it takes forever, and the answer always seems to be the same: "No".
Double binds, appointments the patients were never informed of, medications and proceedures that make to problems worse or add new ones, but if refused, they get the patient labeled "uncooperative" and can result in loss of benefits and treatment. They can also tell us that we are not being deprived of anything; we can go to the VA ER (150 miles away for me, and I can't leave my wife alone; she chokes sometimes, the power goes out and she can't switch to tank O2 alone), or they offer specialty consultations (back and forth 300 miles a day, three or four days a week), and on and on. On paper it looks like we've been offered the world for nothing, but all we've really gotten is the same old finger.
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Posted by: Noor on Nov 17, 2008 6:44 AM
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What you do not seem to understand is that there is a second genocide in place and that is the eradication of the American male.
The elite set out to remove American males from the picture a few decades ago because they were would resist the oncoming NWO because of their independence. Muslims and Americans, think of this, are alike in their refusal to accept the NWO and loss of freedoms.
So, the filthy old men send the young and healthy off to war to do THEIR dirty work. Then they do as little as possible with the survivors, deny any illness that cannot be measured even though they are very aware of the dangers posed to these men and women by the toxicity they are exposed to. In fact, don't educate them about DU, even though you know what it does, so that the poison does as much insidious killing and destruction as possible.
As Kissinger said, soldiers are just dumb beasts to be used for political purposes.
When the soldiers return, they bring with them damaged bodies, damaged genes, damaged hearts and damaged minds. This is also a way to lower the population of Americans and make lives more stressful. Breaking the medical system with such complications helped break Russia. Look for this coming to a soldier you know.
America has been under attack by the elite for several decades now, the male since the fifties esp. This is a long term plan coming to fruition.
Do not expect a lot of change from your new Pres. To quote the Who, "Meet the old boss, same as the new boss!"
Obama's MENTOR is Zbigniew Brzezinski, Kissinger's NWO equivalent, and once Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser. This is the "man" who brags that he brought about the fall of Russia by instigating the Russian/Afghan War.
It breaks my heart to see my friends, the American people, duped by the Obummer machine. He is advised by some of the dirtiest people on the planet and, since he was born and bred for the role he plays now, he will obey. It is convenient how the fact he is blood relative to both Cheney and Bush was brushed under the rug. And his CFR ties were not mentioned at all.
He will continue the genocide but move it over towards Afghanistan and Pakistan; Pak is already being bombed but it goes unreported. More civilians and more of your youth will go and die ~ genocide goes on of both civilians and America's young males.
REMEMBER WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS DESTROY THE ENTIRE PLANET AND THEN REMAKE IT IN THEIR OWN IMAGE! WAKE UP AMERICA!
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Posted by: silver flute on Nov 17, 2008 11:30 PM
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Random phone surveys done in at least 4 states have shown that there are currently between 6,000,000 and 10,000,000 people very ill with MCS in the US alone. That is between 2-2.4% of our population. A very high number, and yet the CDC and health people won't admit it's happening. Worse, many have been called crazy, denied health care and benefits while trying to live in a world that they can not tolerate now.
If the VA is admitting this and wants to "locate" possible wounded vets that might have been epxosed, what is to say that this isn't to get them to sign off on their injuries yet to manifest. This is what happened in the Vietnam war with agent orange. The VA pulled all the Viet Nam vets in for a physical, that was really a joke. My ex-husband went for his, and it included blood pressure, heart listen and lungs listen, and "please sign this saying you don't have effects from agent orange".It absolved the government when they knew damn well there was damage. He does now, and....so do I. Yup, that's right. It seems that the toxins are concentrated in the seminal fluid and shared with the wife when they came home. Not to mention that there are numbers of injured children who weren't even born then...and that is true for the Gulf War, too.
The good news is there is now a treatment to help de-toxify the brain from the effects of the chemicals. Check out National Toxic Encephalopathy Foundation's website. It's expensive and it's not covered by insurance. It will clear up what can be cleared up, but much of this injury won't go away...it's permanent.
In addition, the doctors who specialize in treating MCS are being forced out of practice because their message goes counter to the Big Pharma....who must survive on toxic chemicals, even if they aren't good for us. Think Vioxx!!
I am happy this is finally out in the open, but Vets beware. The wolf is wearing VA suits.
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Posted by: dr doug on Dec 3, 2008 1:01 PM
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Analysis of VA Health Care Utilization
Among US Global War on Terrorism
(GWOT) Veterans
Operation Enduring Freedom
Operation Iraqi Freedom
VHA Office of Public Health and Environmental Hazards
August 2008
Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 7
VA Health Care Utilization from FY 2002 through 2008 (2 nd QT) Among OEF and OIF Veterans
• Among all 868,717 separated OEF/ OIF Veterans
– 40% (347,750) of total separated OEF/ OIF veterans
have obtained VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)
• 96% (333,007) of 347,750 evaluated OEF/ OIF patients have
been seen as outpatients only by VA and not hospitalized
• 4% (14,743) of 347,750 evaluated OEF/ OIF patients have
been hospitalized at least once in a VA health care facility
Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 8
VA Health Care Utilization for FY 2002-
2008 (2 nd QT) by Service Component
• 437,873 Former Active Duty Troops
– 41% (179,475) have sought VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)
• 430,844 Reserve/ National Guard Members
– 39% (168,275) have sought VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)
Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 11
Demographic Characteristics of OEF and
OIF Veterans Utilizing VA Health Care
%
OEF/
OIF Veterans
(n =
347,750)
Sex
Male 88 %
Female 12
Age Group
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Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 13
Frequency of Possible Diagnoses
Among OEF and OIF Veterans Diagnosis (n = 347,750)
(Broad ICD- 9 Categories) Frequency * %
Infectious and Parasitic Diseases (001- 139) 40,956 11.8
Malignant Neoplasms (140- 208) 3,248 0. 9
Benign Neoplasms (210- 239) 13,910 4.0
Diseases of Endocrine/ Nutritional/ Metabolic Systems (240- 279) 75,850 21.8
Diseases of Blood and Blood Forming Organs (280- 289) 7,675 2.2
Mental Disorders (290- 319) 147,744 42.5
Diseases of Nervous System/ Sense Organs (320- 389) 121,473 34.9
Diseases of Circulatory System (390- 459) 56, 900 16.4
Disease of Respiratory System (460- 519) 71,087 20.4
Disease of Digestive System (520- 579) 110,449 31.8
Diseases of Genitourinary System (580- 629) 37,118 10.7
Diseases of Skin (680- 709) 55,797 16.0
Diseases of Musculoskeletal System/ Connective System (710- 739) 165,439 47.6
Symptoms, Signs and Ill Defined Conditions (780- 799) 138,043 39.7
Injury/ Poisonings (800- 999) 73,767 21.2
*These are cumulative data since FY 2002, with data on hospitalizations and outpatient visits as of March 31, 2008; veterans can have multiple diagnoses with each healthcare encounter. A veteran is counted only once in any single diagnostic category but can be counted in multiple categories, so the above numbers add up to greater than 347,750.
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Posted by: dr doug on Dec 3, 2008 1:16 PM
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Gulf War I exposure summary. Prepared by Dr. Doug Rokke, Ph.D., Major, MS, USAR
1. Depleted Uranium munitions
2. Chemical agents
3. Immunizations-
4. Radiological materials-
5. Endemic diseases
6. Hazardous materials
7. Pesticides-
8. Biological agents-
9. Oil well fires-
10. Food and water borne illnesses
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Posted by: steelrainsi91 on Dec 7, 2008 6:07 AM
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and dont forget it's all in your head. Here take some more psych meds. We all know the story. So lets hope and pray for a change that is long over do concerning sick Gulf War Veterans. I would like to see the VA shut down and all Veterans given medical cards. Have the soldier rated during out-processing from there prospective branches and put all those VA employees who treat us like we owe them out of work. Make the ones who can go out and get a real job. We are talking about the medical industry jobs should not be a problem for the ones who do thier jobs and are good at what they do and for the ones who had no choice but to seek employment from the Government so they are protected against all the mistakes and lack of knowledge hit the road. I am not sorry I feel this why I have given the VA more chances than I would have ever received during my 10 years of active duty service. It is called dereliction of duty. And game over.
Mike R.
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Posted by: steelrainsi91 on Dec 7, 2008 6:14 AM
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I served for Ten years on active duty and a few in the National Guard. I am very proud of my service and wish I could still serve. In short I am Airborne Qualified, 63TD3P20 Soldier. I was awarded the Bronze Star Medal for my performance during the War. I have also been awarded the Army Commendation medal and 5 Army achievement medals and many others. I was an E5-P in E-7 slots (Sergeant First Class Positions) the last years of my active duty service. I was highly Trained Motivated and Good at what I did. I have all the paper work to back up what I say. And I have not even scratched the surface of my service to this Country. That I love so much. I am nobody special. But I have proved myself to be trust worthy and my opinion at one time counted. The Military was my life.
Others and I are sick and have been for a very long time and need help. I am sorry that I am not made of steel. I am human after all. Never thought I would say that one.
I lost my first wife to divorce and my first child to a problem with the pregnancy and my 1st wife took it much harder than me. Marriage over. My problems are the same as all the rest of us who are sick . So I will skip that part. Was re-married and had 1st child who was hospitalized twice for unknown reason. Buy that time I was pretty sick to. I have one other child who was born in 1998 who seems fine. I lost our home and all of our belongings in 1999 and became homeless with three kids and a great wife. (WOW) I still can’t believe it. I was on around 13 prescriptions at the time. And my fight with the VA had started years before and they knew I was sick. I was also in a very bad training accident in 1989 and that alone was causing me major problems. So I was double trouble to the VA. It was and has been a very long road and I did win my fight with the VA and am rated 100% and I still need medical attention and I can’t seem to get anyone at the VA to listen and understand my life is terrible and I have real medical problems and it not in my head. Well it is, the pain, headaches, and eyes and so on.
We are sick, we served this Nation when the time came. It’s time for this Nation to step up to the plate and help us. We need it. Too many have already died to include my best friend. What is it going to take. For the VA help us.
Mike R.
ordesertvet@aol.com
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