My aunt out in Valparaiso was surprised all year when she heard even former die-hard Bush supporters get fed up with the neoconservatives and their evil ways. I'll bet these troops made sure the word got out against the filth that has made the GOP what it is today. But if you think the postwar symptoms of Vietnam were bad enough, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

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...of this is done to our vets by the party of Pro-Life and Family Values. Tell that to our vets when they come down with these strange illnesses, for which there is no cure and about which nothing is known.

I wonder if the Bushies, the Repub party and their Religious Right can be sued for damage or death to the fetus via their exposure of it to these toxic chemicals.

And the beat goes on, it just keeps going on, sickeningly on.

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that is not only happening right now in Iraq and Afghanistan, but DU is still in Iraq from the FIRST Gulf War.

Depleted Uranium shells are armor-piercing shells and, thus, used often by US forces. Uranium is not only a carcinogen, but causes serious cellular/chromosomal damage that can be passed on to the next generation.

It isn't just US troops being permanently damaged by DU weapons, but Iraqis have reported higher incidents of cancer, miscarriages, birth defects, and all kinds of horrors.

The Congress needs to pass a bill outlawing DU weapons so this can never happen again.

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Yes, that's what I thought this article was about too.
An International Crime against humanity that affects our troops too.
(remember how hard it was for our soldiers to get help after exposure to Agent orange? The military would rather deny its existence than own up to their responsibilities!) I fear for my foolish, Gung-ho nephew who wants to go back there and make the military his career (Physically, psychologically and spiritually!). Has he even had a chance to see this information to make an intelligent choice, I wonder?
Meanwhile, how convenient for our warmongers and oil-grubbers: Just spread enough DUI around and it will eventually kill off everything in the region,(That includes our troops) leaving nothing but the OIL!
Who needs all those messy inconvenient living beings, anyway?

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I firmly believe that British and American politicians should be tried, not only for embarking on an illegal war, but also for using what amounts to chemical warfare. Iraqis, especially children and the unborn, have been suffering from the effects ever since the first Gulf War but, on the whole, the compliant media ignores it - except when the occupiers suffer ill effects. The politicians concerned cared little for the occupied population or their own soldiers, but they go scot free. Until the Hague process is used to prosecute the strong, it will continue to be perceived by many as inherently unjust, and its moral authority will continue to be diminished.

Obama might well initiate some sort of partial withdrawal in Iraq, but he is apparently intending to step up the war in Afghanistan and the Pakistan borderlands. If he is content to allow the continued tacit use of chemical warfare, he may have difficulty convincing the civilian populations that America really is changing.

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plus chemical and biological weapons with our government injecting our young men and women with experimental vaccines, without their knowledge or consent. Check out this dvd, NOW!
"Beyond Treason" the US govts long history of conducting deadly military experiments, with the documents that prove it.

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I've seen old movies from WWII taken by the Army of soldiers in trenches being told, "Now - walk toward the mushroom cloud. The blast is over, so it can't hurt you. ". No breathing masks, no shielding of any kind. The military waited and delayed until the vast majority of those were dead before admitting their "error" and offering treatment - such as it was that far down the road. Then there was my war, Vietnam (No, I wasn't sent there; just joined, and as a medic, took care of those who returned) and Agent Orange. As recently as two years ago I saw a notice for vets exposed to Agent Orange to try an"exercise and counseling program"! Yeah, I bet it helps a LOT to do fucking jumping jacks while you're dying of various exotic cancers. I know that, for my own nerve damage and chronic pain (made permanent by the VA's delays and denial of tests and treatment), I've been offered the same counseling, mind drugs, exercise (but nothing to make the added pain tolerable, much less the base level, exercise or no) and on and on. Anything but the medications that medical science and the Medical Standard of Care says is correct (M.S.of C. - what science and he textbooks say to do, and what will get doctors and patients sent to prison for following it if the DEA and DOJ feel like it). Now the VA has found a new way to take those of us who had, finally and for a time, been returned to enough functionality to perhaps work part time, or at least leave our couches, wheelchairs or hospital beds and care for ourselves; maybe even start an attempt at(yet another) new beginning, and return us to those wheeled or horizontal prisons. "But", they say, "At least you're off those evil >b>NARCOTICS!.

So now, as the only other personin the house to care for my dying wife besides her bed-ridden self, the VA managed to cripple me even beyond my 100% SSDI disability rating (the VA has lost my VA disability rating), we qualify for little because we "make too much money on SSDI") and turn me into what will likely be to proximate cause of her early death through neglect. There's only so much I'm able to do.

I've been in touch with other vets around the country, and it's happening everywhere: they seem toe making a little extra room for the new vets by trying to see the old ones into death to make that room. There's all kinds of recourse: Congressional reps, VA administrators, state advocates and so on, but they all feed from essentially the same trough, it takes forever, and the answer always seems to be the same: "No".

Double binds, appointments the patients were never informed of, medications and proceedures that make to problems worse or add new ones, but if refused, they get the patient labeled "uncooperative" and can result in loss of benefits and treatment. They can also tell us that we are not being deprived of anything; we can go to the VA ER (150 miles away for me, and I can't leave my wife alone; she chokes sometimes, the power goes out and she can't switch to tank O2 alone), or they offer specialty consultations (back and forth 300 miles a day, three or four days a week), and on and on. On paper it looks like we've been offered the world for nothing, but all we've really gotten is the same old finger.

(CONTINUED BELOW)

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What you see here is genocide plain and simple. It is the Crusades returned with the goal to wipe as many Iraqis off the face of the planet. Not just because of oil, but as part of the elite's plan to cut the population of earth by 80%.

What you do not seem to understand is that there is a second genocide in place and that is the eradication of the American male.

The elite set out to remove American males from the picture a few decades ago because they were would resist the oncoming NWO because of their independence. Muslims and Americans, think of this, are alike in their refusal to accept the NWO and loss of freedoms.

So, the filthy old men send the young and healthy off to war to do THEIR dirty work. Then they do as little as possible with the survivors, deny any illness that cannot be measured even though they are very aware of the dangers posed to these men and women by the toxicity they are exposed to. In fact, don't educate them about DU, even though you know what it does, so that the poison does as much insidious killing and destruction as possible.

As Kissinger said, soldiers are just dumb beasts to be used for political purposes.

When the soldiers return, they bring with them damaged bodies, damaged genes, damaged hearts and damaged minds. This is also a way to lower the population of Americans and make lives more stressful. Breaking the medical system with such complications helped break Russia. Look for this coming to a soldier you know.

America has been under attack by the elite for several decades now, the male since the fifties esp. This is a long term plan coming to fruition.

Do not expect a lot of change from your new Pres. To quote the Who, "Meet the old boss, same as the new boss!"

Obama's MENTOR is Zbigniew Brzezinski, Kissinger's NWO equivalent, and once Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser. This is the "man" who brags that he brought about the fall of Russia by instigating the Russian/Afghan War.

It breaks my heart to see my friends, the American people, duped by the Obummer machine. He is advised by some of the dirtiest people on the planet and, since he was born and bred for the role he plays now, he will obey. It is convenient how the fact he is blood relative to both Cheney and Bush was brushed under the rug. And his CFR ties were not mentioned at all.

He will continue the genocide but move it over towards Afghanistan and Pakistan; Pak is already being bombed but it goes unreported. More civilians and more of your youth will go and die ~ genocide goes on of both civilians and America's young males.

REMEMBER WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS DESTROY THE ENTIRE PLANET AND THEN REMAKE IT IN THEIR OWN IMAGE! WAKE UP AMERICA!

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Oh, yes....this is finally getting spoken about. The MCS community (multiple chemical sensitivity) have been supporting those Gulf War vets for years, while we all struggle with these toxic-induced illnesses. It's high time we admitted that this is happening....and not just in war zones!

Random phone surveys done in at least 4 states have shown that there are currently between 6,000,000 and 10,000,000 people very ill with MCS in the US alone. That is between 2-2.4% of our population. A very high number, and yet the CDC and health people won't admit it's happening. Worse, many have been called crazy, denied health care and benefits while trying to live in a world that they can not tolerate now.

If the VA is admitting this and wants to "locate" possible wounded vets that might have been epxosed, what is to say that this isn't to get them to sign off on their injuries yet to manifest. This is what happened in the Vietnam war with agent orange. The VA pulled all the Viet Nam vets in for a physical, that was really a joke. My ex-husband went for his, and it included blood pressure, heart listen and lungs listen, and "please sign this saying you don't have effects from agent orange".It absolved the government when they knew damn well there was damage. He does now, and....so do I. Yup, that's right. It seems that the toxins are concentrated in the seminal fluid and shared with the wife when they came home. Not to mention that there are numbers of injured children who weren't even born then...and that is true for the Gulf War, too.

The good news is there is now a treatment to help de-toxify the brain from the effects of the chemicals. Check out National Toxic Encephalopathy Foundation's website. It's expensive and it's not covered by insurance. It will clear up what can be cleared up, but much of this injury won't go away...it's permanent.

In addition, the doctors who specialize in treating MCS are being forced out of practice because their message goes counter to the Big Pharma....who must survive on toxic chemicals, even if they aren't good for us. Think Vioxx!!

I am happy this is finally out in the open, but Vets beware. The wolf is wearing VA suits.

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While at least 280,000 Operation Desert Storm vets are affected by gulf war illness we now have at least 350,000 OEF and OIF vets who are affected and the causes are uranium munitions, pesticides, immunizations,and hazardous materials. For example:

Analysis of VA Health Care Utilization
Among US Global War on Terrorism
(GWOT) Veterans
Operation Enduring Freedom
Operation Iraqi Freedom
VHA Office of Public Health and Environmental Hazards
August 2008

Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 7
VA Health Care Utilization from FY 2002 through 2008 (2 nd QT) Among OEF and OIF Veterans
• Among all 868,717 separated OEF/ OIF Veterans
– 40% (347,750) of total separated OEF/ OIF veterans
have obtained VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)
• 96% (333,007) of 347,750 evaluated OEF/ OIF patients have
been seen as outpatients only by VA and not hospitalized
• 4% (14,743) of 347,750 evaluated OEF/ OIF patients have
been hospitalized at least once in a VA health care facility

Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 8
VA Health Care Utilization for FY 2002-
2008 (2 nd QT) by Service Component
• 437,873 Former Active Duty Troops
– 41% (179,475) have sought VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)
• 430,844 Reserve/ National Guard Members
– 39% (168,275) have sought VA health care since
FY 2002 (cumulative total)

Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 11
Demographic Characteristics of OEF and
OIF Veterans Utilizing VA Health Care
%
OEF/
OIF Veterans
(n =
347,750)
Sex
Male 88 %
Female 12
Age Group

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The diagnoses for OEF OIF vets "the new gulf war illness" include:

Cumulative thru 2nd Quarter FY2008 13
Frequency of Possible Diagnoses
Among OEF and OIF Veterans Diagnosis (n = 347,750)
(Broad ICD- 9 Categories) Frequency * %
Infectious and Parasitic Diseases (001- 139) 40,956 11.8
Malignant Neoplasms (140- 208) 3,248 0. 9
Benign Neoplasms (210- 239) 13,910 4.0
Diseases of Endocrine/ Nutritional/ Metabolic Systems (240- 279) 75,850 21.8
Diseases of Blood and Blood Forming Organs (280- 289) 7,675 2.2
Mental Disorders (290- 319) 147,744 42.5
Diseases of Nervous System/ Sense Organs (320- 389) 121,473 34.9
Diseases of Circulatory System (390- 459) 56, 900 16.4
Disease of Respiratory System (460- 519) 71,087 20.4
Disease of Digestive System (520- 579) 110,449 31.8
Diseases of Genitourinary System (580- 629) 37,118 10.7
Diseases of Skin (680- 709) 55,797 16.0
Diseases of Musculoskeletal System/ Connective System (710- 739) 165,439 47.6
Symptoms, Signs and Ill Defined Conditions (780- 799) 138,043 39.7
Injury/ Poisonings (800- 999) 73,767 21.2
*These are cumulative data since FY 2002, with data on hospitalizations and outpatient visits as of March 31, 2008; veterans can have multiple diagnoses with each healthcare encounter. A veteran is counted only once in any single diagnostic category but can be counted in multiple categories, so the above numbers add up to greater than 347,750.

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The original ODS exposures affecting at least 280,000 vets include:

Gulf War I exposure summary. Prepared by Dr. Doug Rokke, Ph.D., Major, MS, USAR


1. Depleted Uranium munitions
2. Chemical agents
3. Immunizations-
4. Radiological materials-
5. Endemic diseases
6. Hazardous materials
7. Pesticides-
8. Biological agents-
9. Oil well fires-
10. Food and water borne illnesses

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More time will tell. But for the 1st time in a long time I feel we have a small chance concerning the VA. The VA has shown us all in the past that the truth has no meaning to them. We are the liars and just looking for a free ride.
and dont forget it's all in your head. Here take some more psych meds. We all know the story. So lets hope and pray for a change that is long over do concerning sick Gulf War Veterans. I would like to see the VA shut down and all Veterans given medical cards. Have the soldier rated during out-processing from there prospective branches and put all those VA employees who treat us like we owe them out of work. Make the ones who can go out and get a real job. We are talking about the medical industry jobs should not be a problem for the ones who do thier jobs and are good at what they do and for the ones who had no choice but to seek employment from the Government so they are protected against all the mistakes and lack of knowledge hit the road. I am not sorry I feel this why I have given the VA more chances than I would have ever received during my 10 years of active duty service. It is called dereliction of duty. And game over.

Mike R.

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My name is Mike and I am a sick Gulf War Veteran. I will make this as short as possible and that will not be easy.

I served for Ten years on active duty and a few in the National Guard. I am very proud of my service and wish I could still serve. In short I am Airborne Qualified, 63TD3P20 Soldier. I was awarded the Bronze Star Medal for my performance during the War. I have also been awarded the Army Commendation medal and 5 Army achievement medals and many others. I was an E5-P in E-7 slots (Sergeant First Class Positions) the last years of my active duty service. I was highly Trained Motivated and Good at what I did. I have all the paper work to back up what I say. And I have not even scratched the surface of my service to this Country. That I love so much. I am nobody special. But I have proved myself to be trust worthy and my opinion at one time counted. The Military was my life.

Others and I are sick and have been for a very long time and need help. I am sorry that I am not made of steel. I am human after all. Never thought I would say that one.

I lost my first wife to divorce and my first child to a problem with the pregnancy and my 1st wife took it much harder than me. Marriage over. My problems are the same as all the rest of us who are sick . So I will skip that part. Was re-married and had 1st child who was hospitalized twice for unknown reason. Buy that time I was pretty sick to. I have one other child who was born in 1998 who seems fine. I lost our home and all of our belongings in 1999 and became homeless with three kids and a great wife. (WOW) I still can’t believe it. I was on around 13 prescriptions at the time. And my fight with the VA had started years before and they knew I was sick. I was also in a very bad training accident in 1989 and that alone was causing me major problems. So I was double trouble to the VA. It was and has been a very long road and I did win my fight with the VA and am rated 100% and I still need medical attention and I can’t seem to get anyone at the VA to listen and understand my life is terrible and I have real medical problems and it not in my head. Well it is, the pain, headaches, and eyes and so on.

We are sick, we served this Nation when the time came. It’s time for this Nation to step up to the plate and help us. We need it. Too many have already died to include my best friend. What is it going to take. For the VA help us.

Mike R.

ordesertvet@aol.com

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