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The Devastation in Iraq Is Systematic -- And It's About to Get Much Worse

By Michael Schwartz, Tomdispatch.com. Posted October 27, 2008.


Iraq's state of complete disrepair has created a population in steaming discontent.
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Intro by TomDispatch editor Tom Engelhardt:
The Roman historian Tacitus famously put the following lines in the mouth of a British chieftain opposed to imperial Rome: "They have plundered the world, stripping naked the land in their hunger they are driven by greed, if their enemy be rich; by ambition, if poor They ravage, they slaughter, they seize by false pretenses, and all of this they hail as the construction of empire. And when in their wake nothing remains but a desert, they call that peace."



Or, in the case of the Bush administration, post-surge "success." Today, however, success in Iraq seems as elusive as ever for the President. The Iraqi cabinet is now refusing, without further amendment, to pass on to Parliament the status of forces agreement for stationing U.S. troops in the country that it's taken so many months for American and Iraqi negotiators to sort out. Key objections, as Juan Cole points out at his Informed Comment blog, have come from the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, which is [Prime Minister Nouri] al-Maliki's chief political partner, the support of which he would need to get the draft through parliament." That party, Cole adds tellingly, "is close to Tehran, which objects to the agreement." The Iranian veto? Hmmm



Among Iraqis, according to the Dreyfuss Report, only the Kurds, whose territories house no significant U.S. forces, remain unequivocally in favor of the agreement as written. Frustrated American officials, including Ambassador Ryan Crocker ("Without legal authority to operate, we do not operate That means no security operations, no logistics, no training, no support for Iraqis on the borders, no nothing"), Secretary of Defense Robert Gates ("Without a new legal agreement,'we basically stop doing anything' in the country"), and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mike Mullen ("We are clearly running out of time") are huffing and puffing, and threatening -- if the agreement is not passed as is -- to blow the house down.



Without a mandate to remain, American troops won't leave, of course. At year's end, they will, so American officials insist, simply retreat to their bases and assumedly leave Maliki's government to dangle in the expected gale. Clearly, this is a game of chicken. What's less clear is who's willing to go over the cliff, or who exactly is going to put on the brakes.



In the meantime, the administration that, only four years ago, imposed conditions on Iraq at least as onerous as those nineteenth century colonial powers imposed on their colonies, can no longer get an agreement it desperately needs from its "allies" in Baghdad. Could this, then, be the $700 billion kiss-off? Stay tuned and, in the meantime, consider, as described by TomDispatch regular Michael Schwartz, what the Bush administration did to Iraq these last five years. Imagine it as a preview of the devastation the administration's domestic version of de-Baathification is now doing to the U.S. economy.



Schwartz's striking piece encapsulates a story he's been following closely for years: the everyday economic violence that invasion and occupation brought to Iraq. It's being posted in honor of the just-released latest TomDispatch volume, his War Without End: The Iraq War in Context, beautifully produced by Haymarket Books. Think of this superb new work on the American war in Iraq as Tacitus updated. In it, Schwartz offers a gripping history -- the best we have -- of how (to steal a phrase from the Roman historian), "driven by greed [and] ambition," the U.S. dismantled Iraq economically. It's a nightmare of a tale, which you can watch Schwartz discuss in a brief video by clicking here. If this be "success," then we truly are wandering in the desert. (By the way, any author profits from the book will go to IVAW, Iraq Veterans Against the War.)


Wrecked Iraq


What the Good News from Iraq Really Means
By Michael Schwartz



As the Smoke Clears in Iraq: Even before the spectacular presidential election campaign became a national obsession, and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression crowded out other news, coverage of the Iraq War had dwindled to next to nothing. National newspapers had long since discontinued their daily feasts of multiple -- usually front page - reports on the country, replacing them with meager meals of mostly inside-the-fold summary stories. On broadcast and cable TV channels, where violence in Iraq had once been the nightly lead, whole news cycles went by without a mention of the war.



The tone of the coverage also changed. The powerful reports of desperate battles and miserable Iraqis disappeared. There are still occasional stories about high-profile bombings or military campaigns in obscure places, but the bulk of the news is about quiescence in old hot spots, political maneuvering by Iraqi factions, and the newly emerging routines of ordinary life.



A typical "return to normal life" piece appeared October 11th in the New York Times under the headline, "Schools Open, and the First Test is Iraqi Safety." Featured was a Baghdad schoolteacher welcoming her students by assuring them that "security has returned to Baghdad, city of peace."



Even as his report began, though, Times reporter Sam Dagher hedged the "return to normal" theme. Here was his first paragraph in full:


"On the first day of school, 10-year-old Basma Osama looked uneasy standing in formation under an already stifling morning sun. She and dozens of schoolmates listened to a teacher's pep talk -- probably a necessary one, given the barren and garbage-strewn playground."


This glimpse of the degraded conditions at one Baghdad public school, amplified in the body of Dagher's article by other examples, is symptomatic of the larger reality in Iraq. In a sense, the (often exaggerated) decline in violence in that country has allowed foreign reporters to move around enough to report on the real conditions facing Iraqis, and so should have provided U.S. readers with a far fuller picture of the devastation George Bush's war wrought.



In reality, though, since there are far fewer foreign reporters moving around a quieter Iraq, far less news is coming out of that wrecked land. The major newspapers and networks have drastically reduced their staffs there and -- with a relative trickle of exceptions like Dagher's fine report -- what's left is often little more than a collection of pronouncements from the U.S. military, or Iraqi and American political leaders in Baghdad and Washington, framing the American public's image of the situation there.



In addition, the devastation that is now Iraq is not of a kind that can always be easily explained in a short report, nor for that matter is it any longer easily repaired. In many cities, an American reliance on artillery and air power during the worst days of fighting helped devastate the Iraqi infrastructure. Political and economic changes imposed by the American occupation did damage of another kind, often depriving Iraqis not just of their livelihoods but of the very tools they would now need to launch a major reconstruction effort in their own country.



As a consequence, what was once the most advanced Middle Eastern society -- economically, socially, and technologically -- has become an economic basket case, rivaling the most desperate countries in the world. Only the (as yet unfulfilled) promise of oil riches, which probably cannot be effectively accessed or used until U.S. forces withdraw from the country, provides a glimmer of hope that Iraq will someday lift itself out of the abyss into which the U.S. invasion pushed it.



Consider only a small sampling of the devastation.



The Economy: Fundamental to the American occupation was the desire to annihilate Saddam Hussein's Baathist state apparatus and the economic system it commanded. A key aspect of this was the closing down of the vast majority of state-owned economic enterprises (with the exception of those involved in oil extraction and electrical generation).



In all, 192 establishments, adding up to 35% of the Iraqi economy, were shuttered in the summer and fall of 2003. These included basic manufacturing processes like leather tanning and tractor assembly that supplied other sectors, transportation firms that dominated national commerce, and maintenance enterprises that housed virtually all the technicians and engineers qualified to service the electrical, water, oil, and other infrastructural systems in the country.



Justified as the way to bring a modern free-enterprise system to backward Iraq, this draconian program was put in place by the President's proconsul in Baghdad, L. Paul Bremer III. The result? An immediate depression that only deepened in the years to follow.



One measure of this policy's impact can be found in the demise of the leather goods industry, a key pre-invasion sector of Iraq's non-petroleum economy. When a government-owned tanning operation, which all by itself employed 30,000 workers and supplied leather to an entire industry, was shuttered in late 2003, it deprived shoe-makers and other leather goods establishments of their key resource. Within a year, employment in the industry had dropped from 200,000 workers to a mere 20,000.



By the time Bremer left Iraq in the spring of 2004, the inhabitants of many cities faced 60% unemployment. Meanwhile, the country's agriculture, a key component of its economy, was also victimized by the dismantling of government establishments and services. The lush farming areas between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers suffered badly. The once-thriving date palm industry was a typical casualty. It suffered deadly infestations of pests when the occupation eliminated a government-run insecticide spraying program. Even oil refinery-based industrial towns like Baiji became cities of slums when plants devoted to non-petroleum activities were shuttered.



This economic devastation fueled the insurgency by generating desperation, anger, and willing recruits. The explosion of resistance, in turn, tended to obscure -- at least for western news services -- the desperate circumstances under which ordinary Iraqis labored.



As violence has subsided in Baghdad and elsewhere, demands for relief have come to the fore. These are not easily answered by a still largely non-functional central government in Baghdad whose administrative and economic apparatus was long ago dismantled, and many of whose key technical personnel had fled into exile. Meanwhile, in early 2006, the American occupation declared that further reconstruction work would be the responsibility of Iraqis. It is not clear into what channels the growing discontent over an economy that remains largely in the tank and a government that still cannot deliver ordinary services will flow.



Electricity: A critical factor in Iraq's collapse has been its decaying electrical grid. In areas where the insurgency raged, facilities involved in producing and transmitting electricity were targeted, both by the insurgents and U.S. forces, each trying to deprive the other of needed resources. In addition, Bremer eliminated the government-owned maintenance and engineering enterprises that had been holding the electrical system together ever since the U.N. sanctions regime after the 1991 Gulf War deprived Iraq of material needed to repair and upgrade its facilities. Maintenance and replacement contracts were given instead to multinational companies with little knowledge of the existing system and -- due to cost-plus contracting -- every incentive to replace facilities with their own proprietary technology. In the meantime, many Iraqi technicians left the country.



The successor Iraqi governments, deprived of the capacity to manage the system's reconstruction, continued the U.S. occupation policy of contracting with foreign companies. Even in areas of the country relatively unaffected by the fighting, those companies did the lucrative thing, replacing entire sections of the electric grid, often with inappropriate but exquisitely expensive equipment and technology.



A combination of factors -- including pressure from the insurgency, the soaring costs of security, and an almost unparalleled record of endemic waste and corruption -- led to costs well beyond those originally offered for the already overpriced projects. Many were then abandoned before completion as funding ran out. Completed projects were often shabbily done and just as often proved incompatible with existing facilities, introducing new inefficiencies.



In one altogether-too-typical case, Bechtel installed 26 natural gas turbines in areas where no natural gas was available. The turbines were then converted to oil, which reduced their capacity by 50% and led to a rapid sludge build-up in the equipment requiring expensive maintenance no Iraqi technicians had been trained to perform. In location after location, the turbines became inoperative.



Even before the invasion, the decrepit electrical system could not meet national demand. No province had uninterrupted service and certain areas had far less than 12 hours of service per day. The vast investments by the occupation and its successor regimes have increased electrical capacity since the invasion of 2003, but these gains have not come close to keeping up with skyrocketing demand created by the presence of hundreds of thousands of troops, private security personnel, and occupation officials, as well as by the introduction of all manner of electronic devices and products in the post-invasion period. Recent U.N. reports indicate that, in the last year, electrical capacity has slipped to less than half of demand. With priority going to military and government operations, many Baghdad neighborhoods experience less than two hours of publicly provided electricity a day, forcing citizens and business enterprises to utilize expensive and polluting gasoline generators.



In spring of this year, 81% of Iraqis reported that they had experienced inadequate electricity in the previous month. During the heat of summer and the cold of winter, these shortages create real health emergencies.



In 2004, the U.N. estimated that $20 billion in reconstruction funds would be needed for a fully operative electrical grid. The estimates now range from $40 billion to $80 billion.



Water: The Tigris and Euphrates rivers, which flow through the country from the northwest to the southeast, have since time immemorial irrigated the rich farming land that lay between them, nurtured the fish that are a staple of the Iraqi diet, and provided water for animal and human consumption. American-style warfare, with its reliance on tank, artillery, and air power, often resulted in the cratering of streets in upstream Sunni cities like Tal Afar, Falluja, and Samarra where the insurgency was strongest. One result was the wrecking of already weakened underground sewage systems. In the Sadr City section of Baghdad, for instance, where much fighting has taken place and American air power was called in regularly, there is now a lake of sewage clearly visible on satellite photographs.



The ultimate destination of significant parts of the filth from devastated sewage systems was the two rivers. Five years worth of such waste flowing through the streets and into those rivers has left them thoroughly contaminated. Their water can no longer be safely drunk by humans or animals, the remaining fish cannot be safely eaten, and the contaminated water reportedly withers the crops it irrigates.



Iraq's never-adequate water purification system has proven woefully insufficient to handle this massive flow of contamination, while inadequate electric supplies insure that the country's few functional purification plants are less than effective.



In many cities, the sewage system must be entirely reconstructed, but repairs cannot even begin without a viable electrical system, a reinvigorated engineering and construction sector, and a government capable of marshalling these resources. None of these prerequisites currently exist.



Schools: Education has been a victim of all the various pathologies current in Iraqi society. During the initial invasion, the U.S. military often commandeered schools as forward bases, attracted by their well-defined perimeters, open spaces for vehicles, and many rooms for offices and barracks. Two incidents in which American gunfire from an occupied elementary school killed Iraqi civilians in the conservative Sunni city of Falluja may have been the literal sparks that started the insurgency. Many schools would subsequently be rendered uninhabitable by destructive battles fought in or near them.



Under the U.S. occupation's de-Baathification policy, thousands of teachers who belonged to the Baath Party were fired, leaving hundreds of thousands of students teacherless. In addition, the shuttering of government enterprises deprived the schools of supplies -- including books and teaching materials -- as well as urgently needed maintenance.



The American solution, as with the electric grid, was to hire multinational firms to repair the schools and rehabilitate school systems. The result was an orgy of corruption accompanied by very little practical aid. Local school officials complained that facilities with no windows, heating, or toilet facilities were repainted and declared fit for use.



The dwindling central government presence made schools inviting arenas for sectarian conflict, with administrators, teachers, and especially college professors removed, kidnapped, or assassinated for ideological reasons. This, in turn, stimulated a mass exodus of teachers, intellectuals, and scientists from the country, removing precious human capital essential for future reconstruction.



Finally, in Baghdad, the U.S. military began installing ten-foot tall cement walls around scores of communities and neighborhoods to wall off participants in the sectarian violence. As a result, schoolchildren were often separated from their schools, reducing attendance at the few intact facilities to those students who happened to live within the imprisoning walls.



This fall, as some of these walls were dismantled, residents discovered that many of the schools were virtually unusable. The Times's Dagher offered a vivid description, for instance, of a school in the Dolaie neighborhood which "is falling apart, and overwhelmed by the children of almost 4,000 Shiite refugee families who have settled in the Chukouk camp nearby. The roof is caving in, classroom floors and hallways are stripped bare, and in the playground a pile of burnt trash was smoldering."



The Dysfunctional Society: Much has been made in the U.S. presidential campaign of the $70 billion oil surplus the Iraqi government built up in these last years as oil prices soared. In actuality, most of it is currently being held in American financial institutions, with various American politicians threatening to confiscate it if it is not constructively spent. Yet even this bounty reflects the devastation of the war.



De-Baathification and subsequent chaos rendered the Iraqi government incapable of effectively administering projects that lay outside the fortified, American-controlled Green Zone in the heart of Baghdad. A vast flight of the educated class to Syria, Jordan, and other countries also deprived it of the managers and technicians needed to undertake serious reconstruction on a large scale.



As a consequence, less than 25% of the funds budgeted for facility construction and reconstruction last year were even spent. Some government ministries spent less than 1% of their allocations. In the meantime, the large oil surpluses have become magnets for massive governmental corruption, further infuriating frustrated citizens who, after five years, still often lack the most basic services. Transparency International's 2008 "corruption perceptions index" listed Iraq as tied for 178th place among the 180 countries evaluated.



The Iraq that has emerged from the American invasion and occupation is now a thoroughly wrecked land, housing a largely dysfunctional society. More than a million Iraqis may have died; millions have fled their homes; many millions of others have been scarred by war, insurgency and counterinsurgency operations, extreme sectarian violence, and soaring levels of common criminality. Education and medical systems have essentially collapsed and, even today, with every kind of violence in decline, Iraq remains one of the most dangerous societies on earth.



As its crisis deepened, the various areas of social and technical devastation became ever more entwined, reinforcing one another. The country's degraded sewage and water systems, for example, have spawned two consecutive years of widespread cholera. It seems likely that this year, the disease will only subside when the cold weather makes further contagion impossible, but this "solution" also guarantees its reoccurrence each year until water purification systems are rebuilt.



In the meantime, cholera victims cannot rely on Iraq's once vaunted medical system, since two-thirds of the country's doctors have fled, its hospitals are often in a state of advanced decay and disrepair, drugs remain scarce, and equipment, if available at all, is outdated. The rebuilding of the water and medical systems, however, cannot get fully underway unless the electrical system is restored to reasonable shape. Repair of the electrical grid awaits a reliable oil and gas pipeline system to provide fuel for generators, and this cannot be constructed without the expertise of technicians who have left the country, or newly trained specialists that the educational system is now incapable of producing. And so it goes.



On a daily basis, this cauldron of misery renews powerful feelings of discontent, which explains why American military leaders regularly insist that the country's current relative quiescence is, at best, "fragile." They believe only the most minimal reductions in U.S. forces in Iraq (still hovering at close to 150,000 troops) are advisable.



Even if Washington prefers to ignore Iraqi realities, military officials working close to the ground know that the country's state of disrepair, and an inability to deal with it in any reasonably prompt way, leaves a population in steaming discontent. At any moment, this could explode in further sectarian violence or yet another violent effort to expel the U.S. forces from the country.



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Michael Schwartz is a professor of sociology and faculty director of the Undergraduate College of Global Studies at Stony Brook University.

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Iraq who or what
Posted by: Andrew_S on Oct 27, 2008 3:29 AM   
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I sleep well at night in my ignorance, and look forward to the trial and error decimation as practised. Especially to the newer form of urban pacification. Does anyone ever get that feeling that Orwell's book was not really fiction.

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» RE: Iraq who or what Posted by: CosmoViking
How profound Tacitus
Posted by: weathered on Oct 27, 2008 3:52 AM   
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Mr. Schwartz/TomsDispatch, should be applauded for this piece, but unless we address the etiology of the Iraq infection i.e., the steps that it took to put troops on ground, suspicion, paranoia, anger and hate will foment w/its own velocity.

With out a 9/11, an anthrax scared Congress and a Supreme Court that has been essentially put under house arrest - and all very carefully choreographed by a pernicious MSM(why is Judy Miller&her dispicable editwhores from NYT not under indictment?)Iraq's oil and Israel's selfish and hateful needs would have had no traction.

Arrest Silverstein/Bushcon and start to heal or stay stuck in selfish fear.

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» RE: How profound Tacitus Posted by: EncinoM
Iraqi's Helping US
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 27, 2008 4:53 AM   
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Funny I could Swear I was told I lived in a emcoracy..Yet when we SCREAM get Out of Iraq nothing happens. So thanks to the iraq's who are Throwing this corrupt Admin and their Oil Corp co conspirators Out.
Hey if we send them over after we convict them on High crimes would you do US the Honor of carrying out their sentence- not so much 'paperwork' or litigation. Americans don't always have the stomach for 'Swift Justice'. Plus you should get some consellation for all your sacrifics in this Blood for Oil Hostile takeover.
Only reason they have been dragging their feet, disregarding the American people is because they have not secured ALL the oil for Exxon,BP,Shell..
This Admin & All the Top Oil brass (past & present) should be Prosecuted for War Crimes, Crimes aganist humanity and treason (in their 'hosting' countries). The legal invasion of Iraq was the 'straw' which broke Our Backs!
These guys have played right into Bin Ladens plan, to cripple our economy, Just like they did to the USSR in the '80's. They didn't make the connection, didn't make any adjustment to avoid It, can only mean it was their Plan too!
Between That Fact and the constant attack Uopn OUR rights & Freedoms, I'd Say Bin Laden has been Running this Country for 8 yrs...right into the Ground! I'm not a Propenent of Capital Punishment, but for these MF'ers I'll make an exception and try to manage my 'guilty' (giddiness)

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» They killed four kids Posted by: Beck
» RE: They killed four kids Posted by: Quannah
Fundamentalists in Washington
Posted by: X-POLYGAMIST WIFE on Oct 27, 2008 7:23 AM   
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Fundies Bush/McCain/Palin and their blind followers are no different than polygamous leader Warren Jeffs and his blind followers.

Wake up America!

BANKING ON HEAVEN . COM

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"The Surge is Working..." says McCain
Posted by: Carol Burns on Oct 27, 2008 7:35 AM   
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This comment alone is enough to make my skin crawl, but no, he adds that we could stay in Iraq for 100 years, and sings, actually sings, "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran". I didn't know we had troops in Syria, but we have them in Pakistan. If McCain has his way, the wars will never stop, the US will be attacked again, and then we'll have a very short WWIII, followed by...Armageddon. After all that Bush and Cheney have done to our country and to innocent people around the world, how anyone with a conscience could vote for this madman is completely beyond my ken.

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In the end, the Iraq surge strategy will not work.
Posted by: USAFVeteran1966 on Oct 27, 2008 9:10 AM   
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Consider the following news report published today by the Los Angeles Times, just one of many indicators that the troop surge in Iraq will not succeed over the long haul.
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"$100-million Iraq sewer project a failure, report says"

Sewage still runs in the streets of Fallouja, where a new waste collection and treatment system isn't connected to homes. The report blames military action, changes to plans and skyrocketing expenses.


By Julian E. Barnes
October 27, 2008

Reporting from Washington -- In one of the most misguided reconstruction projects attempted in Iraq, the U.S. spent nearly $100 million to build a sewage treatment system for the city of Fallouja, according to a government audit report released today.

Sewage continues to run in the streets, and the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction found that the system may never be properly connected to individual homes, lacks the necessary fuel to operate and is unlikely to ever cover the full city.

End of extract.

Vietnam vet/Obama supporter
Eight reasons to vote against John McCain

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What would you call a president, VP,
Posted by: willymack on Oct 27, 2008 9:33 AM   
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"Defense" department, and all the folks in congress and the senate who avidly promoted an attack on, and brutal occupation of a helpless country, whose only crime was owning a vast pool of oil under its soil? I'd call them CRIMINALS, wouldn't you?

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NeoCons not only destroyed Iraq,
Posted by: kellysgarden on Oct 27, 2008 10:55 AM   
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They destroyed the reputation of the USA and its Constitution and Bill of Rights.

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Scorched Earth
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Oct 27, 2008 10:58 AM   
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The United States managed to destroy a country in six years and the result is a land void of its vital organisms: lack of running water, electricity, schools, infrastructure and a furious populace.
We've ruined a piece of the earth for what? Petroleum? Mission accomplished.

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Points not covered
Posted by: leafsong1 on Oct 27, 2008 12:36 PM   
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1. The obscenity of "negotiating" with a "sovereign" nation the terms and conditions under which we will agree to withdraw our occupation of them.
2. The fact that this agreement states that we will withdraw when we feel like it and not a moment sooner.
3. The fact that among the "services" we are threatening to withdraw is the forces protecting the Iraqi government from our surrogates (essentially, we are telling them to sign or die).

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How about some Joseph Conrad to go with that?
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Oct 27, 2008 12:46 PM   
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Heart of Darkness:

"...Or think of a decent young citizen in a toga—perhaps too much dice, you know—coming out here in the train of some prefect, or tax-gatherer, or trader even, to mend his fortunes. Land in a swamp, march through the woods, and in some inland post feel the savagery, the utter savagery, had closed round him,—all that mysterious life of the wilderness that stirs in the forest, in the jungles, in the hearts of wild men. There's no initiation either into such mysteries. He has to live in the midst of the incomprehensible, which is also detestable. And it has a fascination, too, that goes to work upon him. The fascination of the abomination—you know. Imagine the growing regrets, the longing to escape, the powerless disgust, the surrender, the hate."

"...But these chaps were not much account, really. They were no colonists; their administration was merely a squeeze, and nothing more, I suspect. They were conquerors, and for that you want only brute force—nothing to boast of, when you have it, since your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others. They grabbed what they could get for the sake of what was to be got. It was just robbery with violence, aggravated murder on a great scale, and men going at it blind—as is very proper for those who tackle a darkness."

"The conquest of the earth, which mostly means the taking it away from those who have a different complexion or slightly flatter noses than ourselves, is not a pretty thing when you look into it too much. What redeems it is the idea only. An idea at the back of it; not a sentimental pretense but an idea; and an unselfish belief in the idea—something you can set up, and bow down before, and offer a sacrifice to. . . ."

The neocons had their gods all lined up - worship on the alter of imperial ambition and crony capitalism. Progress, isn't it?

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» It's Much Worse Than That Posted by: Last Chance
Bush and "nation-building"
Posted by: SlyGuy on Oct 27, 2008 12:55 PM   
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Excellent article and reminder of how easily MSM puts aside the Iraq debacle in favor of today's headlines and society news.

Bush once proclaimed a profound distaste for the concept of "nation-building," but "nation-destroying" is acceptable to Bush and neo-cons who pushed this "war to begin several more wars" with other nations deemed offensive to American international interests. All this destruction goes under the rubric of collateral damage per the neo-con game plan, given that there never was any intent to leave an occupied Iraq.

As to the costs to rebuild Iraq, no one seems to be discussing a "Marshall Plan" or something on the order of magnitude necessary to right the wrongs. But if there is such a thing as kharma, Bush, Cheney, et. al. would have to spend an eternity of successive lifetimes as follows: each day, rise and labor with bare hands to rebuild that which has been destroyed, in sheer physical labor, to exhaustion; each night, experience in dreams too real and nightmarish to describe in words the physical, mental, and spiritual suffering of each and every Iraqi's personal hell that resulted from this unnecessary and misbegotten war.

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Bush and "nation-building"
Posted by: SlyGuy on Oct 27, 2008 12:57 PM   
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Excellent article and reminder of how easily MSM puts aside the Iraq debacle in favor of today's headlines and society news.

Bush once proclaimed a profound distaste for the concept of "nation-building," but "nation-destroying" is acceptable to Bush and neo-cons who pushed this "war to begin several more wars" with other nations deemed offensive to American international interests. All this destruction goes under the rubric of collateral damage per the neo-con game plan, given that there never was any intent to leave an occupied Iraq.

As to the costs to rebuild Iraq, no one seems to be discussing a "Marshall Plan" or something on the order of magnitude necessary to right the wrongs. But if there is such a thing as kharma, Bush, Cheney, et. al. would have to spend an eternity of successive lifetimes as follows: each day, rise and labor with bare hands to rebuild that which has been destroyed, in sheer physical labor, to exhaustion; each night, experience in dreams too real and nightmarish to describe in words the physical, mental, and spiritual suffering of each and every Iraqi's personal hell that resulted from this unnecessary and misbegotten war.

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Fuck Iraq, the discontent is here!!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 27, 2008 3:02 PM   
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I don't know about you but when all the hoopla about the Wall St. bailout started I was on the phone everyday telling my Congresspeople NOT to bailout the jerks. As we can see mine and everyone elses voices went unheard. It will be the same in the election.
People are sick of being 'Lorded over' like we're some dullard that can't think for themselves. Well,we can,we do, and we're keeping our eye on the prize. A FREE AMERICA!!
Not the Life magazine,Leave it to Beaver made up bullshit but true honest Freedom and Liberty.

It wasn't 'Terrorists' that took our freedom.It was Congress. It wasn't bin Ladin that stole your Liberty. It was egotistical assholes that think they're better than you and think you need their control over your life.

There is only one way to get it back. We let the new guy have a shot at straightening things out. When we find we're getting the same shaft we always got,then we all take a little walk. Right down Penn. Ave. We get the cops and the military to set down their guns,join the walk, go right into the offices of these unamerican jackoffs,grab them by the back of the neck and toss them out on their asses!!! Then we restore what's been taken away.

Until we wake up and see killing,warfare and acts of violence are the workings of a weak mind we will keep seeing them come up again and again. Until we pursue Peace as strongly as we pursue some imaginary 'enemy' things will stay the same. Strength through Peace is far better and more effective than Peace through Warfare.

Taking care of our people is NOT socialism,it's 'Promoting the general Welfare'
what we're supposed to be about. The idiots that call it socialism are out to control you.
It's time for us to ride the public servants like a gov't mule and get Healthcare for all citizens,get a meaningful economic stimulus that does more than pay a utility bill,it's time to make industry clean up their mess and restore the air and the water to a healthful condition.

Until we get our voices heard,our opinions given creedence,our needs as people addressed,
then we should piss on the polls or better yet go to the congress,go up to the viewing gallery
and while they're all busy patting eachother on the back for screwing us again and piss on them.

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A Complicient Media and hiding of evidents points to no accountability
Posted by: common intelligence on Oct 28, 2008 8:14 PM   
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Oh why do we care?
What can we do?
Where is the congress that's suppose to represent US?
Where is the media freedom of the press that's suppose to inform US?

Where do these bastards hide?
What are their addresses?

I'm asking about the perpatrators of devestation.
Why can't we get to them?
Why do the solders in the military fear reprisal from their own country?
Why do Americans put up with the lies and continue on with out retaliation of our own.

Oh, well the reason is simple>
like the Iraqies that get a $300 "stimulas check" every month to keep them from fighting against the invading forces,
so do Americans get feed little bits of bait all well.

The very Government that has devestated their (our) country economically continually "baits and switches" the security from fear every bend in the road to totaltarism. Leading everyone to believe they are the most well versed in getting things on the right track after all, THEY are the ones that cut the brake lines of this train to disaster.

SO continue to buy their deception and lies of good intentions, such is the road to hell paved with.

This run away train to hell is out of control as they know and have admited. Yet they would never let anyone else grab the reins out of their hands. The illusion of hope through an election that will lead to "change" is like a trying to builds new track ahaead of this train before it gets to the "Bridge-Out"!

Sorry folks, but I suggest you jump off before it's too late.
I did and feel so less stressed than those that think they can hold out (all while the banks continue the foreclosures).

How are you goin' to hold out with no economy? No income? No MediCare, insurance that doesn't pay enough? Insurance you can't afford!,

Oh, but now watch. After the electon. The bait of cheaper gas is egging everyone on with false hope agin. After the election that too will stop! Mark my words. They do it every election. Before the election prices go down. Afterward the prices go up.

Where is the bailout for US? The banks are getting it but what in hell does that have to do wth US? Loans? WHo is stupid enough to Buy into that again? More debt to get uas out of debt? COme friggin on people. Wake up!
So again, Where is the bailout for US?
The same place Irags is..............a Looooooooooong way out!

What happens to all the renters when the landlords stop paying their morgages (at the over inflated old rate) ? No one ever talks about them which is a magority of homes lived in, Not "owned"!

When the value of everything starts dropping to the floor don't you think those paying should protest and stop paying the old over inflated prices and tariffs?

Maybe the Iraqies are better off than we are. Because we just don't realize that fat-and-happy is slowly dwindling. Winters on it's way!
Ya goin' ta spend all winter watch'n foot ball in High Definition?

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