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How the U.S. Military Turned Me into a Terrorist
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Now, the searing testimony has been compiled in an important new book: Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan: Eyewitness Accounts of the Occupation, edited by Aaron Glantz and published by Haymarket Books. I strongly encourage you to buy the book, preferably though the Web site of Iraq Veterans Against the War, which organized the Winter Soldier hearings and continues to hold similar events in cities across the country. All proceeds of books purchased through IVAW will go to support its crucial work.
The following excerpt comes from Michael Prysner, a corporal in the Army Reserve who came home in February 2004.
-- Liliana Segura, Editor, War on Iraq Special Coverage
When I ï¬rst joined the army, I was told that racism no longer existed in the military. A legacy of inequality and discrimination was suddenly washed away by something called the Equal Opportunity Program. We would sit through mandatory classes, and every unit had an EO representative to ensure that no elements of racism could resurface. The army seemed ï¬rmly dedicated to smashing any hint of racism.
Then September 11 happened, and I began to hear new words like "towel-head," and "camel jockey," and the most disturbing, "sand nigger." These words did not initially come from my fellow lower-enlisted soldiers, but from my superiors: my platoon sergeant, my ï¬rst sergeant, my battalion commander. All the way up the chain of command, these viciously racist terms were suddenly acceptable.
When I got to Iraq in 2003, I learned a new word, "haji." Haji was the enemy. Haji was every Iraqi. He was not a person, a father, a teacher, or a worker. It's important to understand where this word came from. To Muslims, the most important thing is to take a pilgrimage to Mecca, the Hajj. Someone who has taken this pilgrimage is a haji. It's something that, in traditional Islam, is the highest calling in the religion. We took the best thing from Islam and made it into the worst thing.
Since the creation of this country, racism has been used to justify expansion and oppression. Native Americans were called "savages," the Africans were called all sorts of things to excuse slavery, and Vietnam veterans know the multitude of words used to justify that imperialist war.
So haji was the word we used. It was the word we used on this particular mission I'm going to talk about. We've heard a lot about raids and kicking down the doors of people's houses and ransacking their houses, but this was a different kind of raid.
We never got any explanation for our orders. We were only told that a group of ï¬ve or six houses was now property of the U.S. military, and we had to go in and make those families leave their houses.
We went to these houses and informed the families that their homes were no longer theirs. We provided them no alternative, nowhere to go, no compensation. They were very confused and very scared. They did not know what to do and would not leave, so we had to remove them.
One family in particular, a woman with two small girls, a very elderly man, and two middle-aged men; we dragged them from their house and threw them onto the street. We arrested the men because they refused to leave, and we sent them off to prison.
A few months later I found out, as we were short interrogators and I was given that assignment. I oversaw and participated in hundreds of interrogations. I remember one in particular that I'm going to share with you. It was the moment that really showed me the nature of this occupation.
This particular detainee was already stripped down to his underwear, hands behind his back and a sandbag on his head. I never saw this man's face. My job was to take a metal folding chair and smash it against the wall next to his head -- he was faced against the wall with his nose touching it -- while a fellow soldier screamed the same question over and over again. No matter what his answer, my job was to slam the chair against the wall. We did this until we got tired.
I was told to make sure he kept standing up, but something was wrong with his leg. He was injured, and he kept falling to the ground. The sergeant in charge would come and tell me to get him up on his feet, so I'd have to pick him up and put him against the wall. He kept going down. I kept pulling him up and putting him against the wall. My sergeant was upset with me for not making him continue to stand. He picked him up and slammed him against the wall several times. Then he left. When the man went down on the ground again, I noticed blood pouring down from under the sandbag. I let him sit, and when I noticed my sergeant coming again, I would tell him quickly to stand up. Instead of guarding my unit from this detainee, I realized I was guarding the detainee from my unit.
I tried hard to be proud of my service, but all I could feel was shame. Racism could no longer mask the reality of the occupation. These are human beings. I've since been plagued by guilt. I feel guilt any time I see an elderly man, like the one who couldn't walk who we rolled onto a stretcher and told the Iraqi police to take him away. I feel guilt any time I see a mother with her children, like the one who cried hysterically and screamed that we were worse than Saddam as we forced her from her home. I feel guilt any time I see a young girl, like the one I grabbed by the arm and dragged into the street.
We were told we were ï¬ghting terrorists; the real terrorist was me, and the real terrorism is this occupation. Racism within the military has long been an important tool to justify the destruction and occupation of another country. Without racism, soldiers would realize that they have more in common with the Iraqi people than they do with the billionaires who send us to war.
I threw families onto the street in Iraq, only to come home and ï¬nd families thrown onto the street in this country, in this tragic and unnecessary foreclosure crisis. Our enemies are not ï¬ve thousand miles away, they are right here at home, and if we organize and ï¬ght, we can stop this war, we can stop this government, and we can create a better world.
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Posted by: maestra on Oct 11, 2008 5:03 AM
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I respect your bravery in telling this story, and correctly feeling shame and disgust. What about the others? When will it stop?
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Posted by: LOVELYT. on Oct 11, 2008 5:06 AM
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I asked anyone reading this;
What would you do if you know you've lived your life exactly the way you were raised. Believing the way you were taught to believe. Then someone comes to your door pointing a gun at your father's head and/or your mother's pregnant belly and orders you outside?
It sounds like living black and dealing with law enforcement. What's the face of Terror again?
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Posted by: taxidriver on Oct 11, 2008 7:00 AM
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When you think America is the greatest force for good in the world--and you believe in American exceptionalism--you simply dismiss such stories as either dishonest, misguided, or unpatriotic.
But it is patriotic to speak the truth to power, even when those in power ignore you or attempt to squelch you.
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Posted by: stellabloo on Oct 11, 2008 8:27 AM
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The current american administration has been part and parcel of this since 2001. The least hint of moderation was painted as TREASON. Now I hear finger-pointing and talk of "voting independent".
Right now, the canadian people are coming together to stop the pro-american Harper government from taking a majority vote in our upcoming election.
Not because the economy melted down, not because we can't pay our medical bills, not because of the escalating and horrific cost of armed conflict, not the energy crisis - but because of the government's poor record on environmental issues (!).
And if WE can do that, then surely - dear neighbours, you can come together for the love of this PLANET and vote the warmongering GOP bastards out.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Oct 11, 2008 8:58 AM
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American citizens chose a group of leaders who wanted to use the military to gift Afghani's and Iraqi's with "freedom" and "democracy", as if a) the two ideas were related in any form or fashion, and b) it was something you can give a peoples under the best of circumstances.
So, hooray--civilian leadership sent in troops to establish a democracy under which switching religion/cult beliefs is punishable by death, and the appropriate punishment for a woman who has been raped is, not uncommonly, death--for the woman. Better than the Taliban? Probably so, even still. The difference is that teaching foreign nationals to value human life and liberty is NOT worth the lives our folks, and that even if it was, our military--the one we let our leaders send abroad--is not trained nor equipped to carry out that mission.
So, fellow citizens, we've deployed an arm of our society overseas and they did exactly what they were trained to do: engage an organized army, eliminate it, and crush its ability, real or perceived(!!!) to attack or menace us.
And then we let our leadership forget about them--gave them no valid mission, just an open-ended spiel about freedom, democracy, insurgents, and stability. Small wonder that some of the more loony-tunes inclined individuals in our society go quite bonkers under such conditions. Add bullets and car bombs, and not knowing moment-to-moment whether the next moment will come or not, and some individuals will snap faster than others. Folks get killed over forty ounces of beer here in the states; you put a guy who watched the guy next to him get turned into goo the day before in a similar situation the next day, and he's apt to have a hindered ability to judge a credible threat. Only difference being that we as a nation placed that individual in that situation with a forty caliber weapon, while Joe on the corner decided for himself that forty ounces was worth killing over.
Actually, its a small wonder that such a small number of the hundreds of thousands that have rotated through the M.E. in the last few years haven't gone lost it. It speaks volumes about the maturity, discipline, and restraint of our people in uniform that we have tasked sacrificing themselves for a never-ending pipe-dream mission that our electorate has delegated our civilian leadership to have them perform.
For us.
Think about your role in facilitating this nastiness before you denigrate the whole of the armed forces because a few individuals end up doing things there that happen every day in our own neighborhoods, bombing runs and tanks going after armed targets aside.
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Posted by: Ladydog on Oct 11, 2008 10:11 AM
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Also, do your purported sympathies for the Palestinians only extend to them provided they meekly resettle outside of their ancestral homeland, and give up their claims for return or at the very least restitution, as all refugees are entitled to under international law? Or is the only "good" Palestinian a silent one?
The biggest injustice in the Middle East, an area filled with them, one worse than the other, is that most of the world, including Arab states and so-called progressives like yourself, ultimately wish they would just go away and disappear.
To claim that the war in Iraq is in no way historically or politically connected with this injustice is just plain wrong, and is one big reason why we are going to be continued to be mired in bloody, expensive and futile conflicts in that region for a long time to come, regardless of who is elected in November.
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Posted by: Pop on Oct 11, 2008 10:32 AM
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We can only get our country back on track by demanding that our leaders be held to account for their tyranny. Impeach the Bush regime and prosecute them for their crimes agains humanity and our constitution!
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Posted by: drfun on Oct 11, 2008 5:26 PM
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Nip for Japan, Chinc for China, Charlie for Viet-Cong, Hun for German, Spic for a Mexican. Over the course of decades of war the US has embroiled itself in the names and places change, but its core reason is the same.
What will the 3rd Birgade be calling innocent US citizens when they begin firing upon the masses?
The Bu$h cabal has been using the term, unpatriotic. Though it best describes the fascist's Goon's & Thug's that make up Bu$h & Co.
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Posted by: susiespf on Oct 11, 2008 8:15 PM
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thank you for your comments, and your reflections,
my son served 2 tours in iraq as well -
of course, you don't tell your family much, so they won't look at you, that way.
we will accept and love you ,
whatever you have done, and whatever you have seen, but you all don't want to chance it,
and some way, what you all have done and seen,
it is better if we don't see and accept it,
so that it is not acknowledged,
by those who will know you for the rest of your life.
we have never been put in that circumstance, and have never had to made that kind of decision.
myself, i will not judge you, or blame you.
we all are made up of good and bad decisions.
each day, we wake up,
and decide how we want to live our day.
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--Walt Kelly, The Pogo Papers, 1953
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Posted by: maestra on Oct 11, 2008 5:03 AM
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I respect your bravery in telling this story, and correctly feeling shame and disgust. What about the others? When will it stop?
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Posted by: LOVELYT. on Oct 11, 2008 5:06 AM
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I asked anyone reading this;
What would you do if you know you've lived your life exactly the way you were raised. Believing the way you were taught to believe. Then someone comes to your door pointing a gun at your father's head and/or your mother's pregnant belly and orders you outside?
It sounds like living black and dealing with law enforcement. What's the face of Terror again?
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Posted by: taxidriver on Oct 11, 2008 7:00 AM
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When you think America is the greatest force for good in the world--and you believe in American exceptionalism--you simply dismiss such stories as either dishonest, misguided, or unpatriotic.
But it is patriotic to speak the truth to power, even when those in power ignore you or attempt to squelch you.
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» trials of Nazis
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Posted by: stellabloo on Oct 11, 2008 8:27 AM
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The current american administration has been part and parcel of this since 2001. The least hint of moderation was painted as TREASON. Now I hear finger-pointing and talk of "voting independent".
Right now, the canadian people are coming together to stop the pro-american Harper government from taking a majority vote in our upcoming election.
Not because the economy melted down, not because we can't pay our medical bills, not because of the escalating and horrific cost of armed conflict, not the energy crisis - but because of the government's poor record on environmental issues (!).
And if WE can do that, then surely - dear neighbours, you can come together for the love of this PLANET and vote the warmongering GOP bastards out.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Oct 11, 2008 8:58 AM
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American citizens chose a group of leaders who wanted to use the military to gift Afghani's and Iraqi's with "freedom" and "democracy", as if a) the two ideas were related in any form or fashion, and b) it was something you can give a peoples under the best of circumstances.
So, hooray--civilian leadership sent in troops to establish a democracy under which switching religion/cult beliefs is punishable by death, and the appropriate punishment for a woman who has been raped is, not uncommonly, death--for the woman. Better than the Taliban? Probably so, even still. The difference is that teaching foreign nationals to value human life and liberty is NOT worth the lives our folks, and that even if it was, our military--the one we let our leaders send abroad--is not trained nor equipped to carry out that mission.
So, fellow citizens, we've deployed an arm of our society overseas and they did exactly what they were trained to do: engage an organized army, eliminate it, and crush its ability, real or perceived(!!!) to attack or menace us.
And then we let our leadership forget about them--gave them no valid mission, just an open-ended spiel about freedom, democracy, insurgents, and stability. Small wonder that some of the more loony-tunes inclined individuals in our society go quite bonkers under such conditions. Add bullets and car bombs, and not knowing moment-to-moment whether the next moment will come or not, and some individuals will snap faster than others. Folks get killed over forty ounces of beer here in the states; you put a guy who watched the guy next to him get turned into goo the day before in a similar situation the next day, and he's apt to have a hindered ability to judge a credible threat. Only difference being that we as a nation placed that individual in that situation with a forty caliber weapon, while Joe on the corner decided for himself that forty ounces was worth killing over.
Actually, its a small wonder that such a small number of the hundreds of thousands that have rotated through the M.E. in the last few years haven't gone lost it. It speaks volumes about the maturity, discipline, and restraint of our people in uniform that we have tasked sacrificing themselves for a never-ending pipe-dream mission that our electorate has delegated our civilian leadership to have them perform.
For us.
Think about your role in facilitating this nastiness before you denigrate the whole of the armed forces because a few individuals end up doing things there that happen every day in our own neighborhoods, bombing runs and tanks going after armed targets aside.
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Posted by: Ladydog on Oct 11, 2008 10:11 AM
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Also, do your purported sympathies for the Palestinians only extend to them provided they meekly resettle outside of their ancestral homeland, and give up their claims for return or at the very least restitution, as all refugees are entitled to under international law? Or is the only "good" Palestinian a silent one?
The biggest injustice in the Middle East, an area filled with them, one worse than the other, is that most of the world, including Arab states and so-called progressives like yourself, ultimately wish they would just go away and disappear.
To claim that the war in Iraq is in no way historically or politically connected with this injustice is just plain wrong, and is one big reason why we are going to be continued to be mired in bloody, expensive and futile conflicts in that region for a long time to come, regardless of who is elected in November.
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Posted by: Pop on Oct 11, 2008 10:32 AM
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We can only get our country back on track by demanding that our leaders be held to account for their tyranny. Impeach the Bush regime and prosecute them for their crimes agains humanity and our constitution!
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Posted by: drfun on Oct 11, 2008 5:26 PM
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Nip for Japan, Chinc for China, Charlie for Viet-Cong, Hun for German, Spic for a Mexican. Over the course of decades of war the US has embroiled itself in the names and places change, but its core reason is the same.
What will the 3rd Birgade be calling innocent US citizens when they begin firing upon the masses?
The Bu$h cabal has been using the term, unpatriotic. Though it best describes the fascist's Goon's & Thug's that make up Bu$h & Co.
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Posted by: susiespf on Oct 11, 2008 8:15 PM
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thank you for your comments, and your reflections,
my son served 2 tours in iraq as well -
of course, you don't tell your family much, so they won't look at you, that way.
we will accept and love you ,
whatever you have done, and whatever you have seen, but you all don't want to chance it,
and some way, what you all have done and seen,
it is better if we don't see and accept it,
so that it is not acknowledged,
by those who will know you for the rest of your life.
we have never been put in that circumstance, and have never had to made that kind of decision.
myself, i will not judge you, or blame you.
we all are made up of good and bad decisions.
each day, we wake up,
and decide how we want to live our day.
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--Walt Kelly, The Pogo Papers, 1953
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