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In a Perfect Storm of Economic Stagflation, the Yachting Set Says: "Let Them Eat Pizza"

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted July 31, 2008.


Officially, "stagflation" is a thing of the past, but a deeper look reveals a different, very painful reality for most Americans.

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Stagflation in America? Well, unless you're among the wealthiest, you're soaking in it and have been for quite a while.

But you're not likely to hear much about that story. Officially, the U.S. hasn't experienced stagflation -- a long period of rising prices amid sluggish economic growth -- since the 1970s. The word conjures up images of gas lines snaking around corners, a weary Jimmy Carter looking droopy and forlorn in the Oval Office and the general sense of "malaise" that sunny old Ronald Reagan exploited so adroitly to give rise to the New Conservative movement.

But looking beyond the official numbers -- the data on growth and inflation that most economic reporters bandy about -- reveals a deeper truth about the American economy. The reality is that those who aren't at the very top or the very bottom of America's economic food chain have been mired in a long period of painful stagflation. But it's a reality that's obscured by the ways in which we measure our nation's economic health.

So while anyone who draws a paycheck knows that prices are rising fast and salaries haven't kept up for a long time, the S-word is never mentioned in our economic discourse. There are two reasons for that. First, a number of government benefits like Social Security payments are indexed to inflation, and since the dawn of the Reagan era, a series of changes were made to the way the government measures it, largely as a back-door way of keeping the growth of entitlements in check without pissing off veterans' groups or the AARP.

Second, while our overall growth has outpaced inflation, America's income has also become much more highly concentrated at the top -- the paychecks of 9 out of 10 Americans have actually declined over the past three decades. It's been Bill Gates and his set who have done extremely well during that time.

As a result of both of these shifts, there's now a significant gap between the economy in which most Americans live and work and the one discussed in the business pages and on the cable news blab-fests.

Inflation Nation

Newsweek tells us that "the situation we're in is nowhere near stagflation." After all, "the Consumer Price Index is rising at a 3 percent annual rate, compared with 13 percent in 1979."

What Newsweek doesn't mention is that the measures of inflation commonly discussed today bear little resemblance to the stats used in the 1970s.

In large part, that's because the Consumer Price Index (CPI) -- the most frequently cited measure of inflation in media reports -- is used to determine government benefits like Social Security, federal and state pensions and Medicare payments. Until the late 1970s, the index was based on a relatively simple formula. Officials took a theoretical "basket of goods" that "typical" consumers required and averaged their current prices. But, as economist John Williams, author of the Shadow Government Statistics newsletter, explains, "miscreant politicians, who were and are intent upon stealing income from social security recipients," made dramatic changes to the way CPI is calculated in the 1980s and 1990s, resulting in a drop in the official inflation rate made with a stroke of the pen and with little fuss from the public.

To gauge what most of us are really experiencing on a day-to-day basis, one might imagine economic reporters relying on a monthly "pizza index" instead of the Consumer Price Index. According to a February report by Al Olson of MSNBC, "Pizza makers have seen their cheese costs soar this year from $1.30 a pound to $1.76 a pound. Even worse, the flour used to make the dough has gone from $3 to $7 a bushel to $25 a bushel in less than a year." Between the second quarters of 2007 and 2008, even the paperboard used to make pizza boxes increased by 8 percent. (Several years of inflation in tomato prices -- for the sauce -- have been blunted by the recent salmonella scare.)

The same is true for a host of items that working America buys every day. Olson wrote, "If you're looking for a sure sign the U.S. economy is headed in the wrong direction, all you need to do is look at the skyrocketing price of 'recession-proof' foods: pizza, hot dogs, bagels and beer." But those items, and other costs that impact ordinary people significantly, are under-counted in the consumer price index.

Beginning in the early 1990s, conservative economists were unhappy that high inflation kept increasing entitlement payments to government employees, vets and the elderly -- whiners and greedy gray-hairs -- and, through some impressive intellectual contortionism, began making adjustments to the way the "official" rate of inflation is measured. They began "weighting" items in the basket differently.

Alan Greenspan argued that it was wrong to compare the price of a pound of steak one year to a pound of steak the next because when steak gets too expensive, people start eating hamburger -- they lead more frugal lives when prices rise, and the cost of inflation should reflect their decisions. But as Williams notes:


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Excellent Essay About Money Inflation and Distribution
Posted by: mmckinl on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 AM   
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Now what liberals and progressives need to think about is how we create our money because actually the government doesn't create our money, the banks do. The Banks have a monopoly on our money creation!

Just think about it. How does the government get its money? Most it gets through taxes but when we need more we have to borrow it from the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve! Why should we have to borrow money from ourselves and then pay interest on it? It's crazy!

With the creation of a Public Central bank that creates money without interest and the arbitration of credit we would have hundreds of billions probably over a trillion dollars more a year in government receipts!

Liberals and progressives need to start talking about how our money is being created. Without this discussion all other issues become moot as the banks control the very lifeblood of the economy; the money we need to pay for a progressive agenda.

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» RE: Please Understand... Posted by: sdc_zen
» RE: The FED is absolutely the issue. Posted by: Mister_PsyOps
» Social Credit theory Posted by: Ignatz deFyre
Excellent article: the statistics are refreshing.
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 AM   
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It's nice to see today's inflation compared to that in 1980, with basic necessities still included in the calculation. It's also nice to see actual percentages given - and a lot of them - rather than broad abstractions about how bad things are now. Your numbers make the case - things suck!

The quote about how inflation statistics today reflect inflation in the context of people downgrading to lesser-quality goods and services was spot on. Of course inflation seems lower when you keep buying cheaper stuff as a way to adapt. This behavior is precisely a reaction to high inflation; using it to argue for low inflation is absurd.

By the way, I called Pizza Hut two weeks ago to order one large two-topping pizza. There were no deals offered on pizzas that day, only on breadsticks. The large two-topping pizza I wanted (pepperoni and sausage) would have cost $17 before tax, tip, and the delivery charge. With these expenses, it would have cost maybe $23. I was shocked when quoted this price.

I didn't buy the pizza.

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» digiorno next time? Posted by: edgar1
» ... and dog food after that. Posted by: kimbari
GDP is a load of cobblers
Posted by: HeroesAll on Jul 31, 2008 2:45 AM   
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I've always been rather cranky about economists lauding GDP as A Goode Thinge, particularly when other folks adopt that as doctrine. Aside from all the (very good) points Joshua makes in this article, there's the fact that GDP can be increased by, say, a spate of mass murders.

After all, that sells a lot of newspapers, there's lots of funerals to be paid for, and undoubtedly there's lots of buying of guns and security systems as a result. All of that is economic activity, and all of that increases the GDP. Good? Not so much.

And that's leaving aside the fact that, even if increasing GDP infinitely meant we all get economic ponies, we still need to face some uncomfortable facts. Such as that we're depleting our resources, particularly important ones like soil, potable water, and marine life, much faster than they can replenish, all in our eagerness to be good little consumers.

GDP, huh. What is it good for? ;-)

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Wealth creation is the only way out of this
Posted by: Bobsays on Jul 31, 2008 3:30 AM   
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Many people are making a major mistake in how to deal with the declining standard of living: by clamoring for expensive, government solutions. The government should only stick to the big picture stuff and get that right: this means infrastructure (which is appalling - look at New York's airports!), vision and strategy for macro-economic development, and support to high-level activities like science parks, tech parks etc. Everything else needs to be left to the actions of individuals.

And at this level people are making many mistakes. Look at what people do in the developing world. They save and pursue education. They start businesses and support each other via fraternal organisations. But here, people live lives that are fractured, and make the mistake of supporting businesses and people that don't support their best interests.

But I do believe there is too much corruption out there and a big flush is needed to clean it out.

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Yep, that sums it up, but what do we do about it?
Posted by: SufiLizard on Jul 31, 2008 4:23 AM   
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But when I run these facts through my handy-dandy Reality-to-Republican dictionary (aka, dictionary of antonyms) I come up with, "everything's great and Republican economic policies are good for America."

So how do we get the truth through to the large minority of people who have an intense allergic reaction to the truth.

Keep in mind Republicans only need a large minority in order to steal elections and they keep getting larger-and-larger margins of error.

This article spells it out nicely, but as we've seen over the last decades there is a widening gap between the truth and the perception of reality. Even a lot of Democrats seem to have converted to the religion of radical, neo-liberal fundamentalism.

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themanwithadog
Posted by: the man with a dog on Jul 31, 2008 4:25 AM   
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Just a few words to put you into the picture as to how the situation is in the UK

Yesterday British Gas with around 3 million customers has told them their bills will be increased by 35% with immediate effect.

Petrol is over five pounds a gallon which is eqiuvalent of ten of your US dollars.

Last week I was touring Somerset and went in a pub for a drink,I made conversation with a gentleman from Texas.His wife asked for a coke and all the guy could talk about was that his coke had cost him ONE AND A HALF POUNDS!! Or three of your dollars.

Welcome to the UK

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Michigan the prototype for Corporationists Economic vision
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jul 31, 2008 4:32 AM   
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As a Michigander I have seen this slow steady drain circling going on since the '70's. Reagan refused to take on theAuto industry regarding real Fuel efficiency, Helped weaken the Rank & file of Union members and made may of our cities into wastelands for poverty & crime.Only once the Japanese started kicking the Big 3's ass in sales did they begin to produce Some smaller cars (mostly cheap & unsafe). As soon as Gas dropped in Price the gas guzzling lead sleds began rolling off the line-But not in Michigan, no new Factory Reopenings, no new ancillary business. They had all been moved over seas and to cheaper labor markets. Michigan was not able to focus the midwest economy on our asembly lines- thus the region suffered.
So when Mac tells me about all his years of 'experience' I consider that statement a reassurance to the Corps, that he will continue the gutting of American jobs, continue to allow their tax loop holes which negate having Jobs here for American Workers.
Sen McCain should be made accutely aware- that those of US of the 'Rust Belt', esp Mi the 'Rust Buckle' have suffered from his type of experience for the last 30 yrs!

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» No frills wheels? Posted by: BlueTigress
» RE: No frills wheels? Yes! Posted by: channing
» RE: No frills wheels? Posted by: Benjaminsjw
» RE: No frills wheels? Posted by: buzzsaw
It takes more fossil fuels to burn fast food let alone transport it compared to
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 31, 2008 4:42 AM   
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making it on your own especially growing your own food. Ok, I do acknowledge that growing your own food is impossible if you live in an apartment, condo, or even a townhouse in some cases. Still transportation costs as a hell of a lot lower when just getting the ingredients compared to the extra petro chemicals used to make it seductively addictive (hint: MSG and corn syrup).

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down the rabbit hole with the red pill
Posted by: siamdave on Jul 31, 2008 5:12 AM   
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- economic problems are not going to improve until We the People control the money supply - they want you to never think about this, but if you want your economy to improve, you must understand this - when private banks create the money supply, economic problems will be inevitable. Explained in more detail here - Banketeering - how the banks have been stealing trillions from you, and the tap is still running

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If money is worth less, prices go up
Posted by: edgar1 on Jul 31, 2008 5:16 AM   
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This article seems to be a long piece to say a simple thing: your money is worth less. Well why is that? The United States is led by corporate and political forces that stripped the country of its industry and shipped it overseas. In addition, as we all are painfully aware, the leaders did nothing to develop new sources of energy, leading to the hundreds of billions of dollars going to oil producers abroad. To solve the problem, now that the US makes very little of value except food, which is now crowded out by ethanol, the US has to go through austerity. Savings and not consumption is the only way to restore the currency's value, and restore stabilty. The Federal Reserve, Congress and the public all have to get used to belt tightening measures. Our standard of living is going to go down. We can't solve this problem by printing more worthless money(the very unoriginal technique both Obama and McCain will employ to fund the trillions of new spending and tax cuts they promise).

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Hey not all "yachtsmen" are rich
Posted by: justaperson on Jul 31, 2008 5:47 AM   
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this dude is about as green as it gets. he's sailing around and around the world playing the guitar and chasing his wife aroiund the foredeck. He paid about as much for his boat as we pay for one year's oli heating bill.

http://www.fattygoodlander.com/home

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Of Course, What Goes Missing Here...
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Jul 31, 2008 6:22 AM   
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Is that the money system itself is so badly corrupted it's no more than worthless Ponzi scheme scrip cooked by a private "Federal Reserve" Corp that was never federal and has minus zero reserves.

Ah, but it's a sweet racket.

Especially for what George Carlin called “the owners” otherwise known as the old parasite ruling class .

With such "friend" deadbeat Fascist jackals on all sides of a Washington-MSM axis supposedly looking out for the "little guy", who needs enemies.

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Stagflation... and worse?
Posted by: Urgelt on Jul 31, 2008 6:45 AM   
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One of the best articles I've read on this subject anywhere. Well done, Joshua.

There's one more (related) economic topic that deserves mention, in the context of understated inflation and overstated economic growth (which is really economic contraction, since our real inflation rate is much higher than reported by the Federal Government).

The money supply.

Since Reagan took office, the Fed has been gushing money into the economy at an astonishing rate. I think this is, at core, the principle reason for all of the bubbles we've seen, and it's a factor in the real rate of inflation. There are too many dollars chasing too few assets.

So long as foreign currency buyers were willing to absorb the excess, the dollar's decline has been slow. But foreign currency buyers may be becoming wary - as well they should, as the total supply of dollars continues to rise. Those dollars represent a national economy which is actually contracting and has been contracting for a long time.

I'm afraid a panic sell-off of dollars in the international community is a real danger in the near future. It wouldn't take much to get one started. If Saudi Arabia decided to accept payment for oil in euros instead of dollars, or if China decided to suddenly dump large amounts of dollars on the currency markets, we'd be off to the races.

Think stagflation is unpleasant? A dollar panic could trigger hyperinflation - a condition in which currency becomes almost completely uncoupled from asset valuations.

If that happens, people walking around Wall Street better use steel umbrellas. It'll be raining financial executives.

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» RE: Opportunity for vultures Posted by: lenioui
Good article..a couple of questions
Posted by: brunowe on Jul 31, 2008 6:59 AM   
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My understanding of the rationale for having a separate number for "core" inflation was that food and energy prices were more volatile than the other items mentioned. Consequently, excluding them when you are talking about CPI activity over a month or two would seem to have the justification of excluding numbers that are likely to be momentary blips. Of course, over a longer-term period that volatility would average out so including them would make more sense. If one were to include food/energy for stats on CPI increase over a period of, say, a month, would it make more sense to do a rolling-average (i.e., changes over six months or so?).

Second, your point about the impact of measuring rental expenses as opposed to housing expenses is a good one. However, my understanding is that the ratio of owner-occupied to non-owner-occupied (and presumably rented) housing is about 2-1. Wouldn't a weighted average of the price numbers be suitable here?

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» To clarify Posted by: Joshua Holland
One important point
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM   
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Taking out "volatile" elements from price components in order to reduce the variance in a group of the numbers, especially when those elements are as important as food and energy, is simply bad math. This scam was invented by the inflation denier former Fed Chief Arthur Burns in order to make the CPI numbers look better than they actually were. There's also the assumption that the food and energy numbers are simply spreading out over a stable mean-- a completely unwarranted assumption (as with many others coming from the BLS).

If you want to take out "volatility" out of the numbers there's a simple, and far more valid way to do it. Do what stock analysts do: take a "moving average" of the numbers over time. Instead of depending on a monthly number, you take an average over a longer period of time, say, 200 days. The statistical "noise" is removed without doing the damage to the validity of the measure as taking out key elements.

You'll also note that the BLS uses a lot of "corrective" measures to remove variance from the numbers, almost to the silly point. "Statistical smoothing" a few months back had gas prices falling when they had actually spiked up. One might question their motives.

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» Complete nonsense! Posted by: ReallyBearish
» Your information is DEAD WRONG!!!! Posted by: ReallyBearish
» Where is this hoarding being done? Posted by: ReallyBearish
» THE Math... Posted by: mike montagne
EXCELLENT SUMMARY AND CALL TO ACTION!
Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 31, 2008 7:07 AM   
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Thanks Josh

Very well done. Needs to be distributed as widely as possible

How can I/WE help?

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
ralippin@aol.com

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It's time for the left to admit...
Posted by: dover23 on Jul 31, 2008 7:07 AM   
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that rigged markets are the main cause of the economic pains being experienced today.

The enormous gap between the rich and the poor has been enabled by sold-out public "servants" under the guise of protection from the free market exchange of goods and services.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
- Thomas Jefferson

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» RE: It's time for the left to admit... Posted by: Joshua Holland
Corporate State! Olagarchy!-Join me in NON-Violent Revolution-Begin Sept 1 - March for the PEOPLE!
Posted by: Lifesabeach on Jul 31, 2008 7:47 AM   
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France, May, 1968 paved the way..."By May 20 an estimated 10 million workers were on strike; the country was practically paralyzed."

Recently the Dalai Lama stated his political bent in his speech in Aspen saying that he is a proponent of Marxism versus a totalitarian leadership or a capitalist system. He notes the advantages for only the elite in this type of government. Bush has tipped the scales so far that we no longer have a balance of power! Are we feeling it? I think so!

Read more about how the French changed their Olagarchic circumstances here:

www.marxist.com/french-revolution-may-1968-part-one.htm


With the ability to communicate via blogging, emailing, and grassroots organizations like MoveOn.org - we should be able to easily organize a revolution. To send a message to our corrupt government [Impeach the entire administration and send them to jail!]

march beginning Labor Day Sept 1st to march and shut down our government. Let's continue and be sure to include signs for multiple facets of our economic and tyrannical issues! See below:

I think it would be great to carry signs about trying our administration for War Crimes on the same dates as the AGENDA FOR THE "JUSTICE ROBERT H. JACKSON CONFERENCE":PLANNING FOR THE PROSECUTION OF HIGH LEVEL AMERICAN WAR CRIMINALS

September 13 - 14, 2008 in Andover, Massachusetts! http://war-crimes.info/agenda.html

[Thank you to previous posts!]


We have the power to end this Bush-Regime Corporate Military Industrial Complex American Empire! [Read all about it here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/848549/posts]

All we have to do is organize and take action. History has shown non-violent protest to be much more powerful and effective than any war!

Imagine if we flooded the streets and refused to work! Before the election! We can stand strong and shut down the entire country, demanding justice and equality for the lower and middle class!

Worried about the democrats not listening and having the courage to stand up? Why wait? We can stand up!

Both parties will be forced to listen to us. We will have their attention before we give them our vote. Without us blue collar slaves -well, the military industrial complex just can't run now can it?

Maybe we can even shut down the war in Iraq! It's time for a living wage and universal health care!

Join me and spread the word. Let's march in the streets on September 13 and 14th to begin with...let's invent our own "little" non-violent, but effective revolution! Thank you, France! Good idea!

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Two Roads diverged in America on November 4th 2008
Posted by: williameon on Jul 31, 2008 7:59 AM   
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Kick out the Federal Reserve and their
BU__! SH__! DOLLAR

Fix the fundamental flaws in the system.
Deny Corporations any Human Rights.
Why should capital appendages have any human rights?
Kick the Lobbyists out of Washington
Broaden the Representation in our Government to include all citizens, rich and poor.
Level the playing field!
Take the money out of politics.
Publicly fund all elections.
Break up the Media Monopolies.
One outlet in one market
Open the airwaves to local independent media.
Require all media to give equal time to all candidates as a public service.
The Media must present all sides of an argument.

Reverse all Privatization of our Military and Government.
Rescind the Bush Tax cuts for the Rich.
Purge the system of Bush’s shills.
Convicted criminals have no rights to appoint Judges.
Close all the Corporate Loop holes, end the Corporate welfare, Tax any windfall profits and Tax all Corporations doing business in America, foreign or domestic.

Reverse all of Bush’s signing statements.
Reinstate the 400 Pollution laws he stripped.
End the War.
Bring the Militia home and
Kick the Dark Army out.
End genetic manipulation.
Strengthen the Constitution and broaden the Bill of Rights to include these Human Rights:
The Right to:
Clean Air
Pure Water
Renewable Energy Resources
Fresh organic fruits and vegetables
Health Care
A livable wage and
Shelter.

Reaffirm our Positive, Creative, Progressive, Goals and Ideals.
Peace, Cooperation, Helpfulness, Brotherly Love, Compassion and Patience!

Issue a new currency: The United States Note.
Good for a set amount of labor and or commodity.
Repatriate all Energy and Precious metal resources for National Security.
Initiate the Green Revolution:
Complete American Energy Independence within 10 years.
Effect higher efficiency standards on everything we build and produce.
Produce the EVII plug in electric car.
Create a national Health care System.
Institute a living wage.
Put America Back to work, rebuilding our infrastructure,
Building the Factories and Industries of tomorrow, today.
Create a master plan that decentralizes food, manufacturing and energy production.
Local is better.
Cut out the Corpirate middle man,
All he creates is dependency!
It is inefficient.
Produce what we need individually locally.
Create completely decentralized system that emphasizes Higher Efficiency Standards, Self Sufficiency and Conservation.
There is a lot of work to be done.
A clear path is before us.
There is only one thing left, to make the decision.
Change or more of the same.

Two Roads diverged in America on November 4th 2008

I will take the one that leads to Economic Independence and FREEDOM.

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Eye Opening
Posted by: Gravitas on Jul 31, 2008 9:04 AM   
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but not entirely so. Most statistics the government and industry use are nothing but manipulations of the real story. That goes for medical studies too! Who said there are "lies, damn lies and statistics?"

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collapse and radical response
Posted by: mrxls on Jul 31, 2008 9:27 AM   
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I applaud the author for the inclusion J Diamond's thesis at the end. The question is whether our society can confront the vested interests in economic inequality and inefficiency and at the same time retreat from deep held fears and delusions of grandeur.

Economic inequality issues start with the difference between the tax rates on capital gains and capital accumulation vs taxes on labor. (the hedge fund managers tax rate and California's prop 13 applying to corporate property are egregious examples of this).

Economic inefficiency includes subsidies to businesses & agriculture (and now under water home owners).

Fears - excessive security, police and especially incarceration - plus the military budget (which includes those delusions as well).

Think of what portion of the population will have to give up advantages should a program leveling all these playing fields be implemented. Might include 20-25% of all families.

I don't know if our society has the wisdom to allow politicans to vote against the narrow interest of overly vocal constituents for the common good.

I do think the country has the strenght to generate sufficient economic activity for the vast majority of people to live well. But the incentives in the system need to be changed in such a way that millions will have to make major changes in their lives in order for this to happen. And the millions who will be hurt (or challenged) are more focused and politicaly conected than most.

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nothing "trickles down" except p!ss (n/m)
Posted by: kww355 on Jul 31, 2008 10:06 AM   
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ba
Posted by: mnstra on Jul 31, 2008 10:45 AM   
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Great article. I have read it a thousand times since the 1970s.What is the author doing in his personal life to change to conserve, to protest/
Are you driving 55mph?
Good tale however about a group of people riding in an old west stage coach. That stage line had had frequent hold ups at gun point. The outlaws of today however are The ruling elite and corps., banks etc.They are the masked men. Make no mistake what you are writing about is good old fashion hold ups of the present century. Highway robbery by entities not wearing bandannas, but stock symbols.

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Good article, Josh
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jul 31, 2008 11:05 AM   
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Now it's time to look at the other sleeze eminating from Wall Street. The purpose of the stock market is to transfer wealth from the middle class to the corporate class. For starters, you might look at what Patrick Byrne, the CEO of Overstock.com, has been writing about for the last 3 years: the issue of counterfit shares, and why the SEC "legalized" the counterfiting of shares.

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Deregulation another word for Lawlessness..!
Posted by: TJColatrella on Jul 31, 2008 11:11 AM   
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Whatever they call it a recession or stagflation the reality is that for 60% of Americans this will be a Depression...

We haven't seen the worst of it by far not yet not by a long shot...

I happened to catch a couple of the top investment house bosses broadcasting form Europe late last night they were speaking of the Merill Lynch right down and feel that's is only the beginning of things and that many hedge funds will jump in soon and begin to further cannibalize our economy as well as much if not all of Europe's...

As many as 150 America banks may fail and the InyMac Bank rescue alone used up 25% of the FDIC Reserve...

So just imagine how bad it may actually get..and if even 100 banks fail...let alone 150...

Of course the removal of regulations allowed most of this to happen and this is due to the Republicans fetish for deregulation..

Deregulation another word for lawlessness..

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The REAL meaning of "conservative"
Posted by: willymack on Jul 31, 2008 11:15 AM   
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Is simply this: The conservation (and increase) of the wealth possessed by the already wealthy, and the denial of opportunity to the rest of us to improve our lot through honesty, industry, and good money management. As long as most of us fail to recognize those who accumulate vast wealth as the criminals and thieves they are, this situation will persist, until the inevatible downfall, that is. It'll be small consolation to see the mighty fall along with the rest of us. At this point, I think a fall would probably be beneficial for ordinary people-a soft thud, so to speak-in comparison to the resounding crash for the formerly wealthy. To pick up the pieces would mean ridding ourselves of the Federal Reserve, which isn't federal or a reserve, but a tool for the wealthy to perpetuate their status, and a crash course for our citizens, aimed at educating them as to the TRUE predatory nature of those consumed with the incurable disesae of GREED.

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Yet conservatives continue to repeat the same tired line.....
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM   
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Good article, unfortunately, those of us that knew something was wrong are not loud enough to quiet the loud & obnoxious spin machines!

While I believe that a vast majority of Americans realize that something is wrong the fact that they can continue to purchase at Wal-Mart belies the reality of what is. The truth is that thanks to the "Big Box" superstores, the little mom & pop stores have gone under (unfortunately), but, the "items" that are sold are of poor quality indeed!

An example is last year I ran out of the webbing for my weed whacker, so I go to "big box" home improvement store to get another, lo and behold they no longer carry the part (of course they were extremely interested in selling me another one). I've noticed that more and more items that I go to buy (humidifier filters, parts for my lawnmower, etc.), the less I am able to find the replacements for them.

I am tired of hearing the same trite, revisionist, pathological lies from those conservatives that are more invested on Wall Street than on Main Street! We do need a bold vision of what we as a society can look like when we work together (irrespective of personal differences).

Can we all just roll up our sleeves and collectively work for that?

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It will come to blood
Posted by: DaBear on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM   
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Too much pain, too much suffering for too long while the owning class and their middling worshippers screwed the bottom again and again and again. Only blood will wash this blight away...

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Inflation stats should include services, not just products
Posted by: RadCenter on Jul 31, 2008 2:30 PM   
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As Kevin Phillips pointed out in his excellent book Boiling Point: Democrats, Republicans, and the Decline of Middle-Class Prosperity, one of the main problems with official inflation statistics is that they do not include services. The four-decade disassembly of America's social and physical infrastructure has resulted in the need for more Americans to pay for things that used to be free or at least affordable: security for their homes and businesses, good schools and colleges for their children, drinkable water, basic banking services.

In addition, as many women involuntarily entered the workplace during this period to help keep the family above water as their husbands' wages fell, even more paid services were need to compensate for what women used to do for free: maintaining the children, home, and belongings; caring for elderly relatives; volunteering at local hospitals and other charities.

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money and debt
Posted by: dougo on Jul 31, 2008 6:38 PM   
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Excellent article. What to do about the current inequities in the system? All of this means we have less money to live on.It will take nothing short of a miracle to undo the massive trashing of our country and the economy. I believe we also need to concentrate more on society and a little less emphasis on the economics.A very informative and easy to understand video of how money is made and the current crisis we find our selves in is on you tube.Paul Grignon's 47-minute animated presentation of "Money as Debt" tells in very simple and effective graphic terms what money is and how it is being created. you can watch it here. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279

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Is Credit Card Debt included in GDP?
Posted by: Overburdened Planet on Aug 1, 2008 4:54 AM   
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An AlterNet article from at least a year ago stated GDP included credit card debt (another example of lying with statistics) but a few months ago I was unsuccessful finding online corroboration. Can anyone provide a link? I must finish this article but I am writing this in haste, working 80+ hours this week. Forgive the link etiquette (and if the author provided this information later).

These types of AlterNet articles are the best, and as always, AlterNet is my absolute favorite website; I’ve learned to change certain aspects of my life in part through reading AlterNet and MSM is dangerous and a waste of time.

Two other recent articles I have yet to finish (when I get a break) but have shared with others:

Nightmare on Wall Street: Washington Can't Bail out the Sea of Red Ink

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/92286/

Naomi Klein: Bush Sees Crises in Fuel, Food, Housing and Banking as Chance to Exploit Us More

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/91656/

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Writing from the front...
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Aug 1, 2008 8:49 AM   
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http://www.kitco.com/ind/willie/jul312008.html

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At This Time I'd Like To Give A BIG FAT "THANK YOU"....
Posted by: Animal on Aug 1, 2008 11:27 AM   
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....To everyone who thought that keeping gays from marrying was more important than keeping our economy strong, healthy, and viable. Good job, you've made it possible for these gangsters to destroy our once great nation. The neocons, corporatists, robber barons, and crypto-fascists couldn't have done it without you.

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Inflation and wasteful uses of mineral oil/gas
Posted by: davemcarthur on Aug 2, 2008 3:13 PM   
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Excellent article. . Anyone on an income of less than $30,000 in New Zealand knows their inflation has been at least 10% for the past few years and media statistics are untrue. Officially inflation here has been a little over $3%. The next step is to show the relationship between inflation and systems based on the vast undervaluation of mineral oil/gas and the resultant squandering of this precious resource in cars, jets, urban sprawl, air conditioning etc

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I have the Solution.
Posted by: mike_burns on Aug 2, 2008 5:33 PM   
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Make it illegal to deport illegal aliens who join unions. Over night, we will have the highest standard of living, with the highest production in the world. That will make America into Amer I Can, again.

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Time to End the Federal Reserve
Posted by: ronheri on Aug 2, 2008 7:08 PM   
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We must put an end to the Federal Reserve Banking Cartel. They have been controlling our monetary system for close to a hundred years. The dollar is now worth 2 cents, since the inception of the Fed. They now control everything from our government to the media and Wall Street. It will take another Revolution to get our country back.

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could this be a planned realignment of wealth?
Posted by: Bearzerker on Aug 3, 2008 1:04 PM   
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... because economic inflation, recession, depression stagflation
whatever the buzzword of the day wants to call it, the end product is always the same
and that is a realignment of wealth back to the status quo!

The Noveau Riche are damned along with the rest of us...

This is a hidden tax that all pay to bubble busters regardless of
nationality, income bracket or education!
and is why some government regulation is needed to protect us
from capital vultures that will go to any lengths including bubble busting in order to make a buck!

A lot of wealth is now offshore non-taxable and non-reportable
and must be taken into account as well.
Complete currency devaluation isn't beyond the possibilities of manipulators to achieve an end game
so... how does all these new dynamics fit into the current model/formula of wealth distribution and redistribution during collapses.

The only way to truly recognize wealth is by realizing that's its based in people, organizations, resources available and the visions possible, money isn't wealth, its just another manipulated commodity, that can only be manipulated by the uber-elites.

just my 2cents worth...
and now I can breathe again

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