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Obama-Care Versus McCain-Care: Real Differences in Plans for Our Health System

By Dean Baker, TruthOut.org. Posted July 11, 2008.


The two candidates are worlds apart on the most pressing domestic issue of our time.
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By far the most important domestic policy issue facing the next president will be fixing the health care system. The United States stands out among wealthy countries in not guaranteeing health insurance to its citizens.

Yet, even though many people cannot get access to care, we still pay more than twice as much per person as the average in other wealthy countries. And we have the worst outcomes. Only a severely over-medicated politician would claim we have the best health care system in the world.

As bad as the current system is, it keeps getting worse. The number of people who are uninsured year round is at 47 million and rising. The costs also keep rising. Companies are increasingly dropping insurance for their workers, or forcing workers to pick up a larger share of the bill. The explosion of health care costs is the basis for all the scare stories that budget hawks use to cut "entitlements." Since half of the country's health care costs are paid by the government, if we don't fix the health care system, it will eventually destroy the economy - and also lead to very scary budget deficits.

So, what do the candidates offer? Following in the Republican tradition of referring to health care plans by the first name of their principal backer, let's see what the candidates propose.

John-Care is a plan to get rid of the employer-based insurance that most of us rely on presently. Senator McCain would eliminate the tax deductibility of employer-provided insurance, in effect requiring employers who offer insurance to take money out of workers' paychecks for their tax liability on their health insurance.

Needless to say, this will make dealing with insurers even less attractive to businesses. Most employers will soon get out of the health insurance business and leave it to workers to buy their own plan. Toward this end, John-Care would give every worker a $2,500 tax credit, or $5,000 for a family.

This will not be sufficient to cover the cost of insurance for many families, especially those with serious health problems. Insurance companies don't like to insure people in bad health. While John-Care does provide a modest pool (at $7 billion to $10 billion) to help people with health problems to get insurance, this is a tiny fraction of what would be needed. Essentially, the McCain plan would undermine the current employer-provided system, and leave millions of people with health problems unable to buy insurance.

By contrast, Barack-Care would build on the current system. It would create a publicly run Medicare-type plan that any employer or individual can buy into. This would provide an additional option for people unhappy with their current insurance. However, those who are pleased with their current insurance would be able to stay with their plan under Barack-Care.

Barack-Care would also reform the private market, prohibiting insurers from charging more to people with health conditions, a rule that is already in place in several states. This would mean workers need not fear being unable to get insurance if they develop a serious illness and lose their job.

Barack-Care would also have subsidies for low- and moderate-income families to ensure they can afford to buy insurance. These subsidies would be financed by a fee assessed on employers who don't provide insurance. The basic story is that every employer (with a small business exemption) will have to contribute towards their workers' health care. They can either buy insurance directly, or they can contribute to a general fund to pay for insurance.

So, those are the basic outlines of the two candidates' health care plans. Senator Obama would build on the system that is already in place and offer people an additional option - buying into a Medicare-type public plan. By contrast, Senator McCain wants to get rid of the current system of employer-provided insurance and force everyone to buy insurance as individuals.

In terms of health care policy, this is by far the sharpest difference between presidential nominees the country has ever seen. Hopefully, people will be aware of these distinctions when they cast their votes in November.

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Dean Baker is co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.



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Single Payer Health-Care System
Posted by: powerofbelief on Jul 11, 2008 3:01 AM   
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There are notable differences between McCain and Obama on the issue of healthcare. Even so, let us not get caught up into thinking Obama's plan is excellent on on this issue (It isn't). To put it briefly, Mccain's health care plan would worsen our health-care system and Obama's would slightly improve it.

There is already an excellent health care reform bill (HR 676). As a not-for-profit government owned single payer health care, this bill would cover everyone and eliminate the need for the immoral insurance industry.

I dont think we should be satified with either Obama or Mccain's health care plan. Vote for Obama if you are in a swing state, but continue to pressure his campaign. We can do much better than what they are offering.

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» Hells Yeah! Posted by: antiapathy
Example of McCain's Unifocal Campaign
Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 11, 2008 3:55 AM   
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Mr. McCain is so out of touch the issue of health care reform it is a true embarassment that he is running for president.

Watch for jingoistic comments about "socialized medicine" from him and his surrogates.

While he is trying desperately to expand his campaign agenda he is basically about trying to be elected on the issue of fear. Fear of what he constantly calls "the most defining issue of our times- the threat of radical Islamofacism"

This is a pathetic unifocal campaign that demeans all Americans.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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Both plans make problem worse not better
Posted by: bthespoon on Jul 11, 2008 4:47 AM   
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McCain would put everyone on the YOYO plan ("You're On Your Own")...an even worse disaster for consumers (at least for people who are in large groups now; the rest would be in the same boat they're in now).

Obama's would still let profit-driven health insurers single out and rate up (financially discriminate against) sick people, plus would take a huge chunk of our tax dollars (billions more) to feed the beast that is the (main part of the) problem (profit-driven health insurers).

Here in Illinois we pay private health insurers $1750 to cover All Kids in KidCare, and our kids receive an average of $600 worth of medical care in return. Obama wants to take this concept to the national stage.

Please wake up, America. Real people are really dieing while we fiddle. Both candidates want to make us pay even more, but we're paying too much and getting too little already. Americans are catching onto the fact that we easily could be paying less and getting more.

So our main choice is between someone who knows what needs to be done but won't do it, and another who simply doesn't have a clue. Yay.

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Single Payer
Posted by: vkobaya on Jul 11, 2008 5:09 AM   
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The only realistic health care plan is the same as is in practice in every other Western nation in the world except this nation, that is, single payer government health care. Of course that eliminates the healthcare insurance industry with their vast immoral profits on sickness and death. Even worse, if you can afford insurance, they will still find a way out of paying for your care should you need expensive catastrophic care or expensive surgery. And as story after story has clearly proven, they aren't above letting children die rather than save them with costly medical care.

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What's the guarentee that Obama will stick to his plan and not cave in to the GOP AGAIN ?!?
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 11, 2008 6:33 AM   
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It's bad enough that Obama has sided with Big Religion, more funding for war-turned-occupation in Iraq, opposition to single payer healthcare, bankruptcy overhaul, FISA, NRA, etc ... The author ought to pull his head out of the GOD DAMNED MOTHERFUCKING two party box and give 3rd/Independent parties a chance to carry out what he and the rest of us fed up Americans are looking for !

VOTENADER.ORG !!!!!

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» Quit being afraid folks! Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» Bull Posted by: Timba
» And I hate to say it... Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: wrong Posted by: Scott Trimble
» RE: Quit being afraid folks! Posted by: IntlDad
Not "Single Payer" - Diversity of Care is Needed
Posted by: Liberty G on Jul 11, 2008 8:09 AM   
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It discourages me that I seem to be the only person noticing that the major problem with our health care system is not the insurance companies or the means of payment (thought that is bad).

It is the complete domination of the system by "mainstream" (actually allopathic) forces that make huge profits on expensive, drug, surgery and high-tech medical treatment. It is the fact that much of this care is self-perpetuating (many drugs are taken to deal with the "side effects" of others) and dangerous (conservative estimate of at least 100,000 dying each year from their doctor-prescribed treatment).

The other countries that do so much better for far less money all use some forms of alternative care - herbal, homeopathic, naturopathic, acupuncture, etc. England, at $2,000 per capita vs. $7,000 for the U.S., has 5 homeopathic hospitals, all covered by the National Health.
Their health results far surpass ours, and they cover everyone. Germany's Commission E, in the 1980s, did extensive research on traditional and herbal remedies, then covered those found safe and effective.

Until we make changes in the KIND of health care offered, the march toward medical bankrupcy will not be halted. The problem with single payer in the U.S. as opposed to elsewhere is that only we have single choice in what that will buy - and it is a really bad option. Why is it that a woman has a "right to choose" about having an abortion - but not about how she may decide to handle her health problems?

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Affordable Health Care isn't going to happen
Posted by: Sissy on Jul 11, 2008 8:26 AM   
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until the insurance companies and their loybbyists are out of the picture. Currently they control our care in America and we are the only industrialized nation in the world where "health care is for profit".

I never cease to be amazed when self-righteous politicans and so-called "health care experts" say "The United States has the best health care in the world". We don't and people who also claim that our Canadian neighbors are "unhappy" with their system are also dead wrong. I have many friends and some family in Canada and they shake their heads in dismay when I ask them that. "Are you crazy?" they reply, "why in the world when it costs $35.00 to go to the emergency room would we be "unhappy?"

There are nearly 50 million Americans currently without health insurance, we are nearly at the top of infant mortality and we are way down the list in longevity. From looking at the different country's health care systems, personally I find France to be a country to look at for a model. Each citizen is "guaranteed" health care but if they want a supplement to cover more, they can purchase it themselves.

I find it obscene that people in this country who have worked, paid taxes, lived their whole lives find that a catostrophic illness will cause them to give up their homes, borrow money, and ultimately be driven into poverty. Some people decide each month, "do I pay rent or buy my needed heart medicine?"

McCain's plan is a disaster, Obama's has possibilities.

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They just don't get it!
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Jul 11, 2008 8:52 AM   
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We have a single-payer system in place and its called Medicare. It can be expanded to include all Americans, federal employees included and all that is required is to eliminate insurers, HMOs, doctors and their PACs and focus on healthcare for PEOPLE!!! Eliminate pharmaceutical bullshit and put every healthcare employee on the GS system governing all federal employees or suitable equivalent. It will work. The craven annual escalation in costs can be readily controlled by a "responsible" Congress and the entirety of it can be de-politicized. Or....its more of the same with the quacks, their insurers and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce carping about frivolous lawsuits, insulation from malpractice accountability, premium escalation, pain in the ass paperwork and more tripe. It wasn't this way when I was a young man and it damned sure doesn't need to be now. We owe it all to dumbass America buying into neocon horseshit that deals with bottom lines and obscene profits at the expense of a profession that ought to be dedicated to caring for the ill rather than advancing personal lifestyle and privilege. Every industrialized nation in the world has a form of universal heathcare that is state provided, except one and neither of these presumptive nominess for the Presidency has a clue about the problem or the means to fix it.

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Forget health care!
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 11, 2008 9:19 AM   
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There is only one issue worth discussing about the November election: IRAQ!

If you want the war to continue, vote for McCain. If not, vote for Obama. It's that simple.

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» RE: Forget health care! Posted by: Knot_Rich
Kill Yourself Before You Go Into the Nursing Home - Problem Solved
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jul 11, 2008 11:51 AM   
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Nursing homes cost a fortune, any capital a person has accumulated over their life gets completely wiped out while living in a nursing home to the point that the state usually ends up paying for the stay in one's few remaining years.

What kind of quality of life does a person have at that point?

They can barely move around, they are senile, they can't fuck anymore and even if they could who at that age would you possibly want to hook up with? There is only one Sophia Loren folks and I am pretty sure she is not on tour.

People are so afraid of death they will do anything and everything to avoid it no matter how low their quality of life is.

Get over it, we all die. Do we need to let nursing homes and funeral parlors rape us on the way out?

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Insurance based Single Payer is the only solution...
Posted by: TJColatrella on Jul 11, 2008 3:08 PM   
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We need an Insurance based Single Payer full coverage for all system run as non-profit...

It's that Simple and it would be best for our Industries as well as the people's well being...

Simple as that...

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McCain Actually Said...
Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 11, 2008 8:05 PM   
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...on the night he went over the top on the required number of delegates to secure his party's nomination that "the US has the best health care system in the world".(Check the speech transcript)

So Dean Baker, your comment in this piece, "Only a severely over-medicated politician would claim we have the best health care system in the world" is more relevant than you might imagine?

I forgot what meds McCain is taking?

Thanks,

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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Universal Healthcare is the answer
Posted by: the great omi on Jul 12, 2008 6:22 AM   
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I can't believe that in The USA, the biggest and baddest country in the world we still refuse to take care of our people. Mortality rates are higher than most any other countries, birth deaths are too, people are immune to most drugs simply because the amount of "medicine" they have taken all their lives.
I think it is so damn strange to see ads for drugs on TV all the time, not only are insurance companies raping people on a regular basis, drug companies make huge profits too, and when was the last time you went to the doctor and whatever was wrong with you was cured, you probably got a bunch of drugs and had to come back for a followup not soon after.
Even third world countries have Universal Healthcare, what will it take to open people's eyes in this country.
We need and deserve Universal Healthcare, we need to start acting and demanding it now.
The biggets issue is that THE GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US, WE ELECT THEM, we need to stop being afraid and start demanding what is right and deserved.
People need to open their eyes and start holding insurance companies accountable for their actions, like the murder of thousands of American citizens due to lack of insurance.
Let's put an end to this, we need to unite and stop the all mighty dollar from governing our lives, our kids and elders are dying to make a profit for some CEO in some insurance company, this is inhumane, we are better than that, let's prove it.

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A false assumption kills the argument
Posted by: Scott Trimble on Jul 15, 2008 11:13 AM   
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The author begins with a false statement. While the health care issue including both our need for a single-payer system and a more diverse approach that is especially less dependent on pharmaceuticals is indeed one of the most important issues facing our nation this year, it is not the onus of the president to fix the health care system. The president can make a suggestion to Congress, can sign into law or veto a plan that comes out of Congress, and may have the biggest megaphone in a national debate, but the burden of fixing our health care system belongs to Congress.

Therefore, while it is true that McCain's plan is horrible and Obama's plan is nothing to get excited about, none of that really matters.
John Conyers has introduced HR 676 and John Dingell has introduced HR 2034, both of which would create a national single-payer plan. If we can either get enough of our representatives and senators to support these bills, or elect replacements who will, then all the president has to do is sign the bill when it crosses his desk.

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WILL ROGERS SAID, " PUTTING A LOBBYIST OUT OF BUSINESS IS LIKE A HIRED MAN
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jul 21, 2008 1:57 PM   
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trying to fire his boss." Until we buy our politicians back from the "health delivery" lobby, we will not see enough change. This means absolute and total public financing of all campaigns and a national initiative petition process embedded in the constitution. (Yeah, when ____ freezes over.) They really don't like us voting. That is why we get to decide so little.

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