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Corporate Accountability and WorkPlace

A Simple Fact: Republicans Can't Manage the Economy

By Robert Weiner and John Larmett . Posted August 20, 2007.


Contrary to the mythology the party has created, GOP presidents are terrible for business.
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At last week's news conference, President Bush again said that he's reduced the deficit to $239 billion, created 8 million jobs and generated unemployment at a low 4.5%. He said the economy is strong, largely due to his tax cut policies. On the other side, Rep. David Obey (D-Wis.), House Appropriations Committee chairman, has complained of our limited resources now because of Bush's "gargantuan deficits he created with that stupid war and those stupid tax cuts paid for with our money."

There is a widely held belief that Republicans are better for business than are Democrats. Let's look at the facts. The wild stock market ride of recent weeks does not compare to the two worst stock events, the crash of 1929 and the 1987 free fall, which also occurred under Republican administrations. Since 1900, Democratic presidents have produced a 12.3% annual return on the S&P 500, Republicans only 8%. Gross Domestic Product growth since 1930 is 5.4% for Democratic presidents and 1.6% for Republican presidents.

Bush inherited from President Clinton an annual federal budget surplus of $236 billion, the largest in American history. Clinton balanced the budget for the first time since 1969. Budget surpluses were expected to total $5.6 trillion between fiscal year 2002 and 2011.

Despite this, Bush transformed the surpluses into a $1.1 trillion annual deficit in just three years because of the Iraq war and his relentless push for permanent tax cuts for wealthy Americans, a new iteration of Herbert Hoover's equally catastrophic "trickle-down" theory. Bragging about a $239 billion deficit sets such a low standard that Bush can claim horrific failure as a good thing for the country. The Bush administration's annual loss of three-quarters of a trillion dollars is unprecedented. Bush presided over the loss of 2 million American jobs in his first 2 1/2 years and has net gained 5.6 million in six years, the worst since Hoover. Clinton created 23 million jobs.

It's not rocket science to figure out the difference. Clinton: tax breaks for the middle and lower incomes who actually spend the money, no Iraq war. Bush: disproportionate tax breaks for the wealthy (50% to the wealthiest 1% by 2010), $750 billion for a war monetarily benefiting only a few military contractors and a financial sieve for the country. Democratic presidents spread the wealth through spending on needed social programs and targeting tax cuts to lower- and middle-income Americans, stimulating the economy more broadly. Republicans pump into defense contractors and high-income Americans, creating a significant detriment to the whole economy with larger deficits and higher interest rates.

Economist John Maynard Keynes was right in 1936: When you "prime the pump" into people programs (like jobs or lower income tax cuts to help Americans buy what they need), you get people results. On the other hand, when you move money from the economy into tax cuts for the rich and a military vacuum, you don't prime the economic pump; you deplete it.

Contrary to opinion, we do not have record high stocks. It would take 14,300 for the Dow Jones industrial average just to match for inflation the 11,750 under Clinton in 2000. We're now around 13,000, meaning, in real terms, a stagnant market with a loss for the past six years. Democrats empower the buyers, Republicans the sellers. Misdirected tax cuts, plus the Iraq war, have taken the money not just from America's working class but from America's businesses as well.


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Robert Weiner is a former Clinton administration public affairs director. John Larmett, senior policy analyst at Robert Weiner Associates, was a legislative assistant to Sen. Gaylord Nelson (D-Wis.) and an analyst for the House Budget Committee.



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wow
Posted by: wheelhouse12 on Aug 20, 2007 9:45 AM   
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This is quite a story here. When people write this sort of article I wonder what to think. I'll just point out a few glaring deficiencies and be on my way. Hoover was not a trickle down economics promulgator. How could he have been? That school of thought had not even been invented yet. When the stock market crashed during his presidency it was because of a failure of monetary policy. He was quite interventionist, too, having acquired a reputation for technical mastery of government. The irony here that these authors fail to appreciate is that had Hoover actually adopted some tax-cutting ideas for the wealthy the great depression might not have happened in so severe a fashion. Tax cuts for the wealthy are better for the economy than tax cuts for people who spend the money. These authors think that quoting Keynes amounts to a validation of their beliefs. Yep, prime the pump and voila, growth! Wealthy people save their money. If these authors had any economic competence they would understand that crucial difference. When money is saved investment occurs. Consumption is worse for the economy in the long term than investment. Hence the GOP's insistence on tax-cuts for the wealthy.

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» david stockman Posted by: Col. Jackleg
» RE: wow Posted by: farmertx
» RE: wow Posted by: ordaj
» wheelhouse thinks you are dumb Posted by: monkopotamus
» RE: wheelhouse thinks he's smart Posted by: Jordonquits
» RE: wow Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: Wheelhouse Whoopee? Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» "Investing" is not Investing Posted by: american
» Your a "idiot" Posted by: Krain61
» No, you're the idiot Posted by: Jordonquits
» RE: No, you're the idiot Posted by: lib3288
» RE: wow Posted by: dwk
another thing
Posted by: wheelhouse12 on Aug 20, 2007 9:53 AM   
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Of course, one cannot expect anything close to objective from two tendentious authors. But it is quite mind-boggling for them to say that Johnson helped the economy with his Great Society. I guess that if there is anything this article proves it is that economics is not a hard science. It is very malleable. It is arcane, technical, esoteric. Few people really know about economics. I cannot include myself among their ranks. From this we should conclude, as always, that social sciences are not political prescriptions and should be taken with a few grains of salt. So if these authors were serious they would discuss the inherent complexity of the economy and react accordingly. Of course, like the political philistines they are, they believe that economics can be rationally reduced to prescriptions that magically mimic their political desires and aspirations. Read "Rationalism in Politics" by Michael Oakeshott. Then maybe, just maybe, the hogwash of economics would become clear.

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» Just a note on unemployment Posted by: Krain61
» filthy wheelhouse Posted by: monkopotamus
» RE: another thing Posted by: lib3288
» RE: another thing Posted by: dwk
Reality 101
Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 21, 2007 2:37 AM   
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Fact: Three times in the history of this country, the plutocracy seized control of all three branches of our government. Three times they have driven this country right into the dirt. How many times will we have to re-learn a lesson we should have learned a century and a half ago:

Conservative pholosophy governance does not work. Period. Never has. Never will. 'Taint gonna happen - Ever!

They learned this lesson in Europe a long time ago. Sooner or later these very basic realities are bound to sink in - it just takes Americans a little bit longer.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: eality 101 Posted by: juanpecan81
» RE: eality 101 Posted by: babs
The economy
Posted by: ender on Aug 21, 2007 3:38 AM   
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The GDP has been revised downwards for the last three years.

The deficit does NOT include war spending in Iraq or Afghanistan, assumes unrealistically optimistic growth, and ignores changes to the tax code expected to sunset (…and does anybody remember that the baby boomers are set to retire soon?)

Since August 2003, President Bush’s economic policies have not created 300,000 jobs monthly, barely enough to absorb those who were thrown out of work under him and to keep up with population growth.

More than 5 million Americans have slipped into poverty (including over one million children – no child left behind, indeed).

Almost 7 million have lost health insurance since 2000. Roughly 15% of the population has no insurance – that’s 43.6 million people.

Men are making 12% less than just 10 years ago and 5% less than 30 years ago.

(Of course, we’re ALL making less money than five years ago.)

And the money we’re making is worth 40% less than it was just six years ago. If one had $300,000 saved for retirement in 2001, it would be worth only $180,000 today. It’s kinda like paying an extra $20,000 a year in tax on money that has already been taxed.

Repugnicans complain about double taxation and stealth tax, well what the hell kind of tax is it when you allow the value of the currency to drop so quickly? No one voted on it. That money won't go to build bridges or pay off the deficit. That money is just gone.

So roughly speaking: remember what you were making five years ago? Yeah, you're making less than that now.

Now bend over, grab your ankles and divide that number by two. That's how much your making now compared to 2001.

Impeachment, please.

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» RE: The economy Posted by: bob t
» RE: The economy Posted by: MAD
» RE: The economy Posted by: ender
Bushco broke the pump....
Posted by: eosrk on Aug 21, 2007 5:39 AM   
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...and had he left if alone, his pals at Enron wouldn't saw prison and Ken Lay still be alive, helping out his campaign.

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I am not Wheelhouse :)
Posted by: chaoslegs on Aug 21, 2007 7:28 AM   
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So don't blast me as a troll. I am definitely a demand-side (Keynesian) sort of fellow.

I have seen a similar write up before. I think it is a bit too simple for the complexities of the world.

For Nixon, how did ending Bretton Wood, the creation of OPEC and the continuation of Vietnam War contribute to his, Ford's and even Carter's numbers?

Why no discussion of the laissez-faire/anti regulatory environment as part of the causes and legacies of some of these presidents, especially Regean, Bush I and Bush II. Or the fact that the regulations (creation of SEC) restored confidence in the financial world under FDR.

How about the role of labor in society, both its rise and decline in the private sector of the work force.

While the numbers are interesting, kind of like the bizarre statistics with weird ending points that they spout in NFL games. "The defense hasn't been scored on in 17 quarters."

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» RE: I am not Wheelhouse :) Posted by: solrev
History says...
Posted by: bigjackjj on Aug 21, 2007 8:55 AM   
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Several hundred years of history says that nobody manages capitalist economy. It just lurches from disaster to diaster.

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» RE: History says... Posted by: Jordonquits
the truth is easily demonstrated
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Aug 21, 2007 9:11 AM   
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Look at a chart showing the ratio of government debt to GDP. Since WWII the Republicans have a clear record of debt exceeding the growth of GDP. Every Republican administration including Eisenhower has demonstrated this.

Of course, our present Idiot-in-Chief is the worst of the lot, having gotten his direction from God.

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Republicans are WONDERFUL for the economy
Posted by: xbj on Aug 21, 2007 9:16 AM   
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Why, of the greatest American Republicans of them all, Adolf Hitler, did WONDERS for the Republican Nazi German economy; took a destroyed hyper-inflated country and turned it into a booming killing machine with a roaring economy built on plunder, industrialized mass murder, and corpse robbing, in a single decade.

And those who would argue I'm using the wrong terms need to get the wake up call that, because of the machinations of Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich before him, and others, and the corruption and false anti-Christian militant fascist Christianism of Tom DeLay and his ilk, the GOP party has been completely transformed into a perfect functioning replica of the German Nazi Party, the only difference being the new swastica is the Stars and Stripes, forever.

Republicans are about utterly destroying the poor and middle class, rendering what assets the lower classes do have worthless, and transfering the value to their rich supporters. And "endless" "war" that will never be won, against the entire rest of the planet, eventually as it will play out if it is allowed to continue. EXACTLY as the Nazis before them.

Ron Paul cannot save the Republican Nazi Party; no one can. It really is time to flush the Nazi shit it has become.

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» they tried, but they couldnt do it Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: epublicans are WONDERFUL for the economy Posted by: avoiceinthewilderness
Sorry, Conservatives Are Only Part Of The Problem . . .
Posted by: MAD on Aug 21, 2007 9:48 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Yes, that's right - Conservatives cannot manage the economy. And neither can Liberals, Progressives, Greens or any other stripe of American.

As the stock market continues to wobble, preparing for its next big plunge into the red, Americans remain conspicuous consumers and will only temporarily lose their appetite for risky investments. Why? Because this is "Greed Nation" and nothing short of a complete financial implosion will ever stand between the average American and his dream of owning an obscenely large house and gas guzzling car to match.

The problem is not a failure in economic fundamentals but rather a firmly entrenched American ideology that has pushed this country to the brink. The Fed furnished commercial banks who in turn flooded the market with cheap liquidity and then bundled it [debt] up and sold it down the river to greedy European, Australian/Asian and even Latin American banks. The whole world is implicated when it comes down to it. That brief run on BNP Paribas and Countrywide (well concealed from the public) was the result of said greed.

How very short our collective memory. In the 80's, the housing market barely weathered a similar downturn. The result: the wealthy swooped in and bought up homes with credit cards. The vultures are circling overhead once again, folks. Does anyone really believe that Alan "THE MAN" Greenspan didn't know what unlimited, cheap credit would do to the housing sector along with derivative markets? Of course he knew. But, and I have to say this didn't surprise me, greedy Americans bought it hook, line and sinker once again and rushed headlong into their overpriced 3500 square foot homes with blinders on.

So, who is ultimately to blame? When it comes down to it, the idiots who went for Bush's famous 9/11 "Sermon on the Rubble" speech wherein he encouraged Americans to spend 'til it feels better - Greenspan readily acquiesced. Many believe 9/11 was a conspiracy (I remain unsure) but I am sure that what followed was a conspiracy to keep America indebted then broke, and most importantly, subservient and scared. Hard to kick up a fuss when you're up to your ass in alligators. The most poignant moment in Michael Moore's "SiCKO" was when he pointed out as much.

And now we are reaping the whirlwind. Housing prices are falling by as much as 30% in some areas and foreclosures are off the charts. There will be no universal healthcare or campaigns directed against conspicuous consumption. Ever notice how we hardly, if ever, hear sage advice to the effect that Americans must cease to consume as much as they do? We are more likely to hear this from the Chinese and Germans than from our own corporate whore of a government. What will follow, mark my words, is another bailout for the big boys who will immediately turn and skewer you, taking your home along with your dignity and all you have to blame is your own, dumb self. Hurts doesn't it?

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Point being: big-government, liberal-spending Republicans make bad economic policy?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 21, 2007 10:04 AM   
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Now who'dathunk that?

Republicans were put on Earth to do the two things that Democrats can't (or won't) do: restrict federal spending and strengthen the military when necessary. Viewing the current state of the military and our current fiscal crises, Bush isn't just a failure as a President; he's a failure as a Republican, as are the vast majority of the idiots who run on "family values" platforms instead of building campaigns on thoughtful planks of problem solving when necessary and removing government barriers between people and financial success in all other matters.

Having said that, Presidents don't run the economy, they influence it. My copy of the United States Constitution tells me that Congress is in charge of national fiscal decisions, and their approval rating is even worse than that of Duh Decider.

Therefore, I conclude that the majority of us are all very much aware of what a crappy job our...uh...erm..."leaders" are doing with our tax dollars and with national economic policy.

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» Point being: none will help! Posted by: Krain61
Old News
Posted by: StickerS on Aug 21, 2007 10:54 AM   
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This is old news. Several years ago, the conservative leaning Forbes Magazine ran the same story. Since WWII, the only Republican administration with a good record on the economy was Ronald Reagan's. There was no Democratic administration with a negative effect on the economy.

The facts have always favored the Democrats, but you cannot win on facts.

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» RE: Old News Posted by: Krain61
Compassionate Conservatism
Posted by: willymack on Aug 21, 2007 10:55 AM   
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OK, we all see exactly what that means. Prezdint Chucklehead's wet dream has come to fruition. Are we having fun, yet? I'm just about to want to try Dr. Einstein's version of Socialism-a far more sensible and truly HUMANE form of government dreamed up by a true intellectual. For those of you(particually younger people) who don't know it, Einstein wrote quite a few political essays on war, politics, and economics, all with the beautiful clarity of mind so obvious in all his other works. Whose word(s) would YOU trust more-a towering genius or a pathetic ignoramus? I know that Socialism is a dirty word to many of us, and is equated with Communism as an evil philosophy. I won't go into how and why Russia and China wern't and aren't true communist systems. As for Socialist nations, just look at the Scandinavian countries with an objective an unbiased eye, and tell me those people aren't better off than we are.

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And I suppose you think Dodd can manage the economy?
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Aug 21, 2007 1:05 PM   
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Look what he just said today. The Fed dumps 100 billion onto wall street in the past 10 days, and Dodd is all for it. Yeah so what if the Fed just devalued our dollar by another 100 billion. Dodd dodn't care. Why should you? It's just another small transfer of wealth to the super rich. So what if it all adds up over the years and we end up with an economy much like mexico, with a huge underclass and a whole bunch of billionaires. Dodd dodn't care. Why should you? None of them care. Except Ron Paul. He is the only one who has been consistently against what is destroying this country financially. That is nothing but a simple fact. The rest of them can spin and squirm all they want, but they were/are all part of the problem.

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All true BUT FOR 27+ YEARS, THE "DEMOCRATS" CAVED IN LIKE A BUNCH OF CAPTAIN WINKIES !!!!
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 21, 2007 5:12 PM   
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Be it RAYGUN's tax breaks for BIG OIL and Corporate America or Bush I's KILLER NAFTA which Clinton happily pushed for and SEVERELY DAMAGED the Democratic virtue that they are better on the economy or for that matter Bush II's series of "tax cuts for the uber-wealthy" which was just like RAYGUN's, the "Democrats" cave-in because somehow they fear being called "tax hikers". WELL ! KONSERVATIVES raise taxes and fees STEALTHILY and slash critical public non-war budgets like a BULLDOZER and what do the "Democrats" do ? NOTHING ! And then they wonder why they get DRUBBED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND SO ON ! Democrats and Republicans both SUCK SHIT on the E-CON-UH-ME because they both do the same SHIT against the working/middle/lower class folks no matter what they claim otherwise !

-EXTREMELY PISSED OFF DEMOCRAT READY TO GO INDIE !

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Republicans are corporate raiders.
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Aug 21, 2007 10:11 PM   
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That's their main skill, their main way of looking at anything. Buy it, steal it, lie or whatever else you need to do, but GET it, then empty all accounts, break it up into useless bits and sell the pieces, then move on. They've treated the entire country as though it's a business in liquidation; for them, there's no tomorrow. They're perfectly willing to ruin future gains by destructively raiding all resources from raw materials to people. They have no vision whatsoever, and only one priority: MORE!

Ian

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Tax little, spend lots = economic disaster
Posted by: dealmeinfo2 on Aug 26, 2007 12:50 PM   
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Bush is trying to give all these tax breaks, then at the same time is giving all this money to other countries and spending on the war on Iraq. This is going to catch up with our country really quick.




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Nor can any politican
Posted by: Joe on Aug 28, 2007 6:22 PM   
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what kind of financial background gives democrats or republicans the credibility to manage the economy.

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