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How to Save the Middle Class from Extinction

By Paul Krugman, AlterNet. Posted March 9, 2007.


Economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman explains in simple terms how the American economy went from having the world's most dynamic middle class to being on the verge of a rich-poor state in only 30 years.
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The following is excerpted from the keynote speech delivered by Paul Krugman at the Economic Policy Institute's recent conference on The Agenda for Shared Prosperity.

...One thing I've been noticing on multiple debates in public policies -- climate change is another one -- is there seems to be an almost seamless transition from denial to fatalism. That for 15 or 20 years the people would say, "No, what you're saying is not happening." And then almost immediately they'll turn around and say, "Well, yeah, sure it's happening, but there's nothing that can be done about it."

And that's kind of the way a lot of the discussion now goes on inequality. That there is really nothing you can do to arrest this. That it's all the invisible hand driving this growth in inequality, and there's nothing you can do to really change it -- well, maybe better education. But while education is very much a good thing, it's the all-American way of dodging problems. Since everybody approves of it, you say we should have better education but wave away the pretty strong evidence that while it's a good thing, it won't make very much difference. So there's this general sense that you can't do anything.

And I don't think that that's what the historical record suggests. That in fact when we look at it, there appears to be quite a lot that the political process can do about inequality. Just to say, there's the obvious. Obviously, even if you look at the United States right now, the tax and social insurance system makes an enormous difference.

But the amount of inequality in the United States is substantially less than it would be if we did not have still at least somewhat progressive taxation, and still a pretty extensive, though not nearly extensive enough, system of social insurance. And that makes a big difference. Certainly if you're looking at say the United States versus Canada, a lot of the difference between the two countries is just that Canada has more of a better safety net financed by somewhat higher taxation.

And if you're looking for a progressive agenda, certainly from my point of view, a large part of that ought to be straightforward orthodox stuff, which is still very hard to do politically. It would be essentially restoring progressivity of the tax system, and using the revenue to improve social insurance and, above all, health care.

So, if you say what would I really like if I went into a Rip Van Winkle sleep and woke up ten years from now, I'd like to wake up and discover that we have a national health care in some version with the necessary funding supplied in part by higher taxes on me, or actually, the top two percent of the income distribution. But people a lot richer than me, of course. But it's not the whole story that the only thing you can do is taxes and social insurance. And the arc of history for the United States suggests that there's actually a lot more that can happen.

If you look back across the past 80 years or so of the United States, what you see is that in the 1920s, we were for practical purposes still in the gilded age. That may not be the way the historians cut it, but in terms of the actual distribution of income, so far as we can measure it in terms of the role of status and general feel of the society, we were still an extremely unequal royalist society.

By the time World War II was over, we had become the middle-class society that the baby boomers in this audience grew up in. We had become a much more equal society. That high degree of equality began to go away -- depending on exactly which numbers you look at -- during the late 70's, maybe a little earlier than that. And at this point we're basically back to pre-tax and transfer to the levels of inequality that we had in 1929.

So there is this great arc to the middle class, away from gilded age to middle-class society and then back to the new gilded age, which is now what we're living in. And there are really two puzzles about that. One of them is a political puzzle, which is why instead of leaning against these trends, politics has actually reinforced them. Why it is that U.S. politics moved left in the age of a relatively middle-class society, and moved right as society got more unequal?

A naïve view of politics would say that, "Gee, when a few people are winning a lot and most people are lagging behind, people ought to be voting for more social insurance and more progressive taxation, not less." And we have some understanding of why that doesn't happen. It has to do with the role of money, organization and all of these other things that affect politics. That story also helps us understand why politics gets so nasty.

If you actually look at some of the measures -- I'm really into quantitative political science these days -- of political positions that political scientists calculate, it does look as if what the main thing that moves actually over time is in fact the Republican party. The Democratic Party has not -- at least with northern Democrats -- gotten significantly more liberal over the past. They haven't moved much at all over the past 30 years.


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Our democracy needs help.
Posted by: Sojourner on Mar 9, 2007 1:01 AM   
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The classic case that I recall is that of the former Air Traffic Controllers union who supported Reagan in the 1980 election. Is it that Americans love cowboys?

When the union went out on strike during Reagan's first term, Reagan broke the union. I do not have any details but even that wasn't enough to convince workers that unions were necessary and that GOP candidates believed just the opposite. Reagan wasn't a revolution; he was a disease.

Again, I cannot cite facts and figures; rather only my sense of the gist of news items. But while CEO salaries may be the most obvious and outrageous exploitation of corporate board powers, corporate board members are lining their pockets as well.

It is way past time to revoke the protections that corporations receive as "legal persons." No, they are not entitled to buy political candidates. They are not entitled to the protections of the Bill of Rights. How much more damage must they do before such privileges are reined in?

Labor would be affected similarly. One unmentioned factor is that fewer union members means that fewer workers are being educated about their political self-interest. Yes, workers need unions to tell them how to vote. Since "you can lead a horse to water..." being told how is not coercive but educational. The education function of unions makes for a stronger democracy.

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» RE: Our democracy needs help. Posted by: dennidus1680
» RE: Our democracy needs help. Posted by: Conservasaurus
CRAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN
Posted by: Tom Degan on Mar 9, 2007 1:37 AM   
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Its's amazing, is it not? You can actually pinpoint the moment when the American middle class began its 180 degree shift from being a vital force in American society to just barely hanging on. I'll place the marker on January 20, 1981. That was the day the American people stupidly sent a half-witted, feeble-minded and failed B movie actor by the name of Ronald Reagan to the White House. The damage that that dirty old bastard did to this once-great nation is so immense, it will never be acurately assessed - It is incalcuable.

And yet poll after poll puts Reagan at the top of the people's list of the greatest presidents in history (just below Washington and Lincoln). What does that say about the intelligence of the American people - or, should I say, their jaw-dropping stupidity? There is a very good reason (or very bad reason - depending on your politics) why, upon taking the oath of office in 2001, that the First Fool signed an executive order that sealed the Gipper's papers indefinately: they don't want posterity to know the truth about the Reagan presidency.

The Republican party has moved so far to the right in the last quarter of a century that it's in serious danger of falling off the face of the earth. Think about if for a minute: The three top contenders for the GOP nomination next year (Romney, Giuliani and McCain) although traditional conservatives in the strictest sense of the word, are viewed by the assholes who control the so-called "party of Lincoln" as hard core lefties. I mean just how ridiculous is that?? Barry Goldwater, the man who literally founded the modern conservative movement would not be able to get their nomination today. He would be dismissed as a "maverick liberal". Indeed, at the end of his life he was working on a book with John Dean about the extremist shift the Republicans had taken in recent years. Dean completed the book last year. Called "Conservatives Without Conscience", it is a must-read any way you slice it.

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» RE: Oh, so it wasn't Reagan? Posted by: dangerouslysane
» Hey Chooch, learn some economics Posted by: ReallyBearish
» FAWLTY TOWERS Posted by: Tom Degan
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» damn ssegallmd, Posted by: WhatNow?
» I'm afraid I agree... Posted by: mjabele
» RE: CRAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN Posted by: goldennugget
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» BUZZ OFF, FREAK Posted by: ssegallmd
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» You're great. Posted by: WhatNow?
» Thanks Posted by: ssegallmd
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Our Long National Nightmare
Posted by: Tom Degan on Mar 9, 2007 1:42 AM   
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Please, when your done reading all of the excellent pieces and comments on Alternet, have a look at the piece I wrote called:
Our Long National Nightmare

Tom Degan

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» Some comments! Posted by: Conservasaurus
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» Is that a proper response? Posted by: ssegallmd
» strange daze indeed Posted by: Iconoclast421
» POT TO KETTLE: COME IN PLEASE! Posted by: ssegallmd
Thats not true!
Posted by: Temporary on Mar 9, 2007 3:36 AM   
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Why we should trust big business! After all, there the HEROES of our great nation! If we just follow there lead then everything will be alright, right?

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Politics and economics as two sides to the same coin.
Posted by: brad on Mar 9, 2007 4:41 AM   
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All that to get to 'unions are good for wealth distribution'. My five year old could have told you that.

Of course politics leads economics, actually they are the same thing even though economists like to treat economics as an independent phenomena, it isn't. It is this semblance of separation and the degree to public knowledge of it that contributes to wether it is a highly wealth stratified country or not.

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The role of strong unions is huge.
Posted by: Annarisse on Mar 9, 2007 4:43 AM   
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In Canada, almost all public sector employees are unionized. That includes teachers and most medical professions such as nurses. In fact, because of socialized medicine, even the doctors' professional organization takes on the role of a union when it comes to negotiating fees with the government.

I know a few nurses who work in non-union settings. Their hospitals decided years ago to pay them by union scale. They don't have to bargain for it - they let the union members at other hospitals do the bargaining, and they reap the benefits. The same thing happens in the steel industry. Stelco goes on strike, fights tooth-and-nail for better wages and benefits, gets them - and a month later, Dofasco has a nearly-identical contract with its non-union workforce, and no strike. This in turn is one of the reasons the automotive industry is not yet dead in Ontario, as it is in much of the U.S. The union shops set the tone, and then the non-union Asian manufacturers follow suit without being asked.

Unions have a huge effect on wages in their sector, even for non-union employees.

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Its very simple...
Posted by: xi_people on Mar 9, 2007 4:52 AM   
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The days of the American "easy motoring" culture are numbered due to the up-coming shortages in energy brought on by resource (oil) depletion. While the "going was good" the PTB allowed the middle class to grow in numbers and wealth, but now that truly tough times are coming, its back to the peonage system -- within which there is no room for a substantial middle class.

The elite know what's coming down the pike and are engaged in a huge wealth transfer from the poor, middle class and marginally rich to themselves.

It was a good run while it lasted, but the paradigm of what constitutes a "normal" life in the "developed" world is about to get considerably worse.

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yeah, and
Posted by: karyse on Mar 9, 2007 5:01 AM   
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the single biggest mistake the unions made was to not walk out en masse in support of the controllers.

People should not forget that they were striking, not for more money, but to make conditions safer for air traffic. They were overworked, and therefore more likely to make errors in judgment. And you are obviously anti-union.

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» RE: yeah, and Posted by: dangerouslysane
The meanings of the death of middle class
Posted by: citizenjoe on Mar 9, 2007 5:28 AM   
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What does it mean, "the death of the middle class"? It means many things. First, it means the victory of the corporate elite-- the defeat of the working class in the class struggle in bourgeois society. Second, it means the end of democracy, since bourgeois democracy is based on the political power of a middle class that constrains the depredations of the owners of capital. Third, it means the end of the republic and the foundation of a fascist state that reduces the members of society to servants of the global corporation in quest of world supremacy.-- Remember, you heard it hear first.

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Noble subject poorly written.
Posted by: american on Mar 9, 2007 5:37 AM   
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Right-o on the significe of the correlation between politics and the income distribution. (Albeit you are a bit timid in postering for your points) The increase in inequality, to bore in to the matter a turn, comes from real factors; they being: what can the wealthy get away with in the present and expected future? They take as much as they can. Money is all that matters. There are no principles involved whatsoever. Let's face it, businesses are purely machines to increase the wealth of owners, everything else be damned. The "invisible hand" is indeed pretty invisible (and blind also) and needs some people from the world of sight to hold it and walk it to the right place, as it has never been able to do so on its own.

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Reagan tax cuts
Posted by: bakho on Mar 9, 2007 5:48 AM   
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How much effect did lowering the top tax rate from over 50% have? Were execs getting other "perks" because of the high tax? Did lowering the high tax rate make compensation worth more, so companies more willing to pay it?

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"The good old days"
Posted by: wawa on Mar 9, 2007 6:01 AM   
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Paul remembers-as do I [i am 53] when families had
ONE car,
ONE bread winner and
kids were free to roam the neighborhood from sun up to sun down:
without cell phones and scheduled activities.

What happened?

The American people bought into the fanatasy of you can have it all:
a home in suburbia, vacations, HUMMERS to go grocery shopping! etc etc etc-

Families buy homes they cannot afford, work umpteen hours to pay the minimum on their credit cards, give their kids over to institutions or strangers to raise, and have no time for sex, fun or THINKING!




"We live in the midst of a suicidal economy, motivated by love of money. We have reached a dead end. What we need to turn it around are hearts in love with life. How do we do it?

We first must move from domination to partnership, and we begin by educating our young in awe and wonder, not how to take tests.


"Awe leads to reverence, which leads to gratitude, which will reinvent our species. This is the task of our generation: to regain awe.


"The three Rs need to be balanced by the ten Cs: contemplation, creativity, chaos, compassion, courage, critical consciousness, community, celebration, ceremony, and character.


“In community, people remain united, despite everything that divides them. In capitalist society, people are isolated, separated, despite everything that should hold them together.

"We are in the midst of an epic struggle between community and capitalistic society. We need a new narrative.

"It is the economy of materialism; it is the virus of affluenza that has weakened family life.”-excerpted KEEP HOPE ALIVE


http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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Hi Drones!
Posted by: paschn on Mar 9, 2007 6:08 AM   
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Ironic ain't it? The Geriatric treasonous swine that really got the ball rolling is extolled by most of the ignorant drones in this country as a fine president.
Look back even one life span and you can see how the Republicans have raped the working class and STILL they have a large following of the very idiots who suffer the consequences of their rapaciousness. You allow them to privatize everything they can 'cuz they say they don't like big government. What they don't like are regulations that prevent them from getting their pudgy greasy fingers at tax-payer dollars.
These dogs aren't wise business men/women, in this cess-pool the only business savvy you need is the ability to write a check to the whores that "govern", (insert rape and pillage), us.
The solution, the ONLY solution I see is nationalizing both energy and communications but I continue to notice a glaring absence of talk about it.
I often use "sheeple" as a metaphor for the U.S. common folk but hell, we're WORSE than sheep. Even a damn sheep will butt it's agressors and voice objective noises which are slightly different from it's common work-a-day bleating. We not only remain mostly silent, we actually assume the position with an air of anticipation.
A nation of sheep, led by a cartel of whores, controlled by big business/Israel. Welcome,... to the REAL Evil Empire.

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The american media
Posted by: kelt65 on Mar 9, 2007 6:28 AM   
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... and yet the american media and publications like Forbes continually trumpet the new billionaires the world economy is creating, as if it's proof of how things are working out so well - now that all the wealth is being concentrated in fewer and fewer hands.

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Kruglman is timid
Posted by: daw13 on Mar 9, 2007 6:50 AM   
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as another commenter pointed out about connecting all his dots. What the historical evidence shows is a shift form our economic system from capitalism to you-know-what (the other awful f word) as social control takes precedence for ruling classes over profiteering. Two great forces motivate this shift: (1) the inexorable rise of the Third World, who can now insist upon greater inclusion at the capitalist table else bring it crashing down, and (2) the inescapable crisis of too little fossil fuel energy (with no viable replacement in sight for probably a hundred years) to support rising demands.

These would seem to be powerful political forces driving current economics, but Krugman seems reluctant for some reason to present this perspective. The conspiracy to use government, rather than depend upon market forces, to control the world, and U.S. citizenry, is no more hidden than Samuel Huntington's The Clash of Civilizations, virtually a textbook for neo-libs and neocons alike.

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PAUL KRUGMAN GETS IT RIGHT, AGAIN
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 9, 2007 6:57 AM   
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My Parents were both union members and I had it good as a kid. I never heard an argumnent about money. I would add on thing to Krugman's excellent article. The only debt people incurred was their mortgage. Being in debt was not a way of life. A pay raise went to savings. Everyone saved something. Children had small bank accounts. Shopping was not the national past time. We supported our country, not the rest of the world. And Wall ST. was just fine. Thanks, ANNA

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TILT
Posted by: StuartH on Mar 9, 2007 7:10 AM   
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I'm glad to see Paul Krugman out there, persistently
making good attempts to sort out spaghetti bowl of
economic problems out.

The system seems to be heading towards TILT.

I recently went to an emergency room, thinking that
it was prudent, and that if it got expensive, it would
be in the range of a few hundred dollars.

This is in a rural area of Arizona where the hospital
is used to referring patients to other regional
facilities by air ambulance. After the billing went
through its cycle, the air ambulance cost turned
out to be about $28,500. The hospital cost was
in the neighborhood of $11,000 - for two days.
The insurance company involved refused to help
very much. The bill stands at about $35,000.

Several questions exist. How come medical care
billing can encompass such numbers? These
seem more in line with large scale corporate
finance than with any individual level economics.

If the rich are getting richer it apparently is
because they have figured out how to exploit
middle class and working class consumers
who won't fight exploitation. Honest working
people will mortgage themselves and pay off
debts rather than argue with the legitimacy of
such ripoffs.

That is probably what is keeping the economy
and the political system going the way it is.
What happens when people finally figure out
that this is really scam economics?

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There is only ONE issue and that's inflation
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Mar 9, 2007 7:20 AM   
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Inflation is the vehicle that guts the middle class and turns the US into a banana republic. The top 2 percent know how to deal with inflation. The middle class does not. They systematically lose their pay, their savings, their future.

Krugman doesn't need to look at any mutli-causal model for income inequity. The ball started rolling big time when Nixon defaulted and closed the gold window. Money supply expanded to pay for his foreign adventures along with inflation.

We're now in the middle of a bubble busting in the financial markets that should destroy whatever wealth the middle class had left. The enslavement follows the "inflation first, deflation next" model.

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Why the Middle Class is Disappearing
Posted by: Menthol on Mar 9, 2007 7:26 AM   
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I can pinpoint the exact year when the middle class began to disappear. It was 1973. The Arabs raised the price of oil. The Sisters followd suite and began an enormous inflation. Houses went from $15,000 to $200,000. An increae of more than ten-fold Automobiles went from $3000 to $30,000. A gain of ten-fold. My salary went from $15,0000 to $25,000, a gain of less than 2. There goes the middle class.

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Slow it ALL Down.
Posted by: zipp28 on Mar 9, 2007 8:27 AM   
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Consider that Exxon made a profit of $40,00000000. in 2006. (And The Valdez victims lost large with NO compensations, but lies).
I would think that a revolution would come about if we the 80% of the population simply drive at slower than the speed limit. That is instead of 70mph or even 80 that we drop down to 50 or so and thusly save that wasted fuel and not let those at the top get so much money. Cut out the TV=Pharmacalogical connection aspect to our consciousness and for sure cut out all hypocritical acts everywhere. Stop reading the daily tree, ie paper for it is the words of those at the top. Then make a bigger stink about the criminals who are running the DC charade. Lastly expose over-all the fuitilities of wagging war and make that writ large into the comprehensions pertaining life regeneration and the human conditions.

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Myths
Posted by: Arvy on Mar 9, 2007 8:29 AM   
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Interesting to read some of the comments about how people still love Reagan despite the fact that he robbed most of the middle class to enrich the elites (or should that be "upper class").

If you'll indulge a view from across the Atlantic:

I think he succeeded in this - other rulers have succeeded in other countries - because he told a good story. He sold the American people a myth about themselves, whether it's about being the greatest nation on earth, or the paragons of democracy or the defenders of truth and justice. Whatever… it sounds good and the people bought it.

I'm NOT comparing him to Hitler but the same thing happened to the Germans under Nazi rule. They were sold similar stories of Aryan exceptionalism which made it easier to control (or herd) them.

And his kind will continue to do so because they know that basically their people are sheep with no ability or desire to think for themselves. Until people decide to educate themselves and stop salivating everytime the bell is rung then it will just continue.

Kudos to those that are extricating themselves from this situation, it's like giving up drugs!

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» RE: Myths Posted by: djnoll
Disconnect
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Mar 9, 2007 8:37 AM   
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The reason it is happening is because the disconnect is greater than it ever was. A guy who is just doing his job is totally shielded from the unfortunate fact that his job often includes eliminating the job of his neighbor. It's so complicated that we don't see what's going on. And even worse, we know that it is happening, so there is a great deal of suspicion. And of course the right wing hacks on the radio feed on that suspicion. Those gall-dang lib-ruls wanna take ur jobs. What're u gon do bout it?

(Go vote for the gall-dang conservative who cares even less about jobs! heh)

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not enough about the real issue
Posted by: citation on Mar 9, 2007 8:42 AM   
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I found this article to be well written and researched but lacked emphasis on the real issue. The middle class is shrinking because thek workplace has changed drastically and the American People have changed drastically. My first thought while reading this article was the Reagan Union Busting in the early 80's. This was the beginning of the end for union strength and it happened because the American People let it happen. I lived and worked in a time when saying something negative about a fellow employee to a supervisor or manager was frowned upon. Today it is not only encouraged, it is expected. Today, it is ok to say something megative about a co-worker to make yourself look good. Today, the workforce does not want unions and Corp America is smiling. Until the American People stand up for themselves and their families and the future of the American workforce, the middle class will continue to suffer, and shrink. The American People's work ethics (if it can even be termed "ethics") has changed dramatically and I will forever be appalled by it. Poor people, living paycheck to paycheck, and living in trailers voted for Reagan and BUSH! ????

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» RE: e: workforce does not want unions... Posted by: dangerouslysane
Good analysis, but...
Posted by: SteveB on Mar 9, 2007 8:42 AM   
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Here's a point that needs more clarification:

"restoring progressivity of the tax system, and using the revenue to improve social insurance and, above all, health care" are "still very hard to do politically."

Considering that opinion polls show widespread support for more progressive taxes and national health care, why are these "very hard" to do?

Unlike some of the cynics commenting here, I don't blame the American people (or "sheeple" as one commenter put it). They want the same things most of us want - better healtcare, a fair tax code, a secure government-guaranteed retirement. The problem is that our political system dosn't respond to the popular will.

As long as you continue to blame the public, instead of our non-democratic system, you're never going to get anywhere.

Yes, you can enahance your self-esteem by thinking you're superior to the "average" American, but this attitude is absolutely toxic to any real organizing, and it's the attitude our ruling class wants you to take.

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» We don't disagree...much Posted by: SteveB
Landmarks
Posted by: olhsson on Mar 9, 2007 8:57 AM   
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My father told me that what gets left out of our history books is the fact that if it were not for Roosevelt's ability to inspire the working class, we probably would have had a socialist revolution in the early 1930s. When the bubble burst in 1929, too many of the rich simply closed up shop and went off on a cruise to the French Riviera. Working class America was angry, REALLY angry. Roosevelt represented a benevolent upper class which seemed a less risky choice than a new government. Even so, the fascists attempted a coup but failed. By the time they had regained political power they were having to distance themselves from Hitler's atrocities. They didn't try to seize power again until the Chinese had been "befriended" and the fall of the Soviet Union was imminent.

The two great engines of the middle class had been the Homestead Act and the GI bill after WWII. Both made landowners out of folks who didn't enjoy the fruits of inherited wealth and the latter sent working class kids to college for the first time. In addition, Roosevelt's Social Security (just ponder those two words within the context of a brewing socialist revolution) had lifted the burden of supporting one's parents from the working class which turned them into home-owning consumers having plenty of "disposable" income and credit.

The most short-sighted aspect of neo-fascism is failure to recognize the fact that as you tear apart the middle class, you destroy consumerism and ultimately your own long-term source of income. But nobody said these guys are smart. Many are also in denial of the fact that their own prosperity is more the product of "government hand-outs" to their families and employers than of any real skills or work accomplished.

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» RE: Landmarks Posted by: kathat
Hey Alternet! Where are the stories by the ANTI Federal Reserve Movement?
Posted by: futurefarm on Mar 9, 2007 9:11 AM   
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I agree that Paul Krugman and the NY Times are, as usual, trying to waste our time and energy.
How can he talk about the middle class and "forget" to mention the Federal Reserve. Is he really that uninformed or is there another reason he left it out.
Go directly to the truth.
Find anything by G. Edward Griffin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Edward_Griffin Scroll to the bottom of the page. Visit the links especially THIS ONE.
http://www.futuresunltd.com/media/creature.mp3
It seems, some of his videos are disappearing from Google video so you may have to look for them. "Capitalist Conspiracy" is a good one. If you can still find it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?
docid=-5137330196032136210

Paste the url below together
also try
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=
3996130931822078621&q=g+edward+griffin

It will take you to "Moles in High Places", and the second is "The Open Gates of Troy", both written and narrated by G. Edward Griffin.
The point is Hegelian pressure is being applied to us by the Globalist Banksters. They are squeezing the life out of us. They use well reported (thank you rear mongering corporate media) social disruption (community instability, drug war, pollution, poor health--aspartame etc.) to push from the bottom and economic disruption (trade agreements, inflation, taxation, fraud, crooked judges, state mandates, war) to push from the top. All of these, they themselves organize and fund using our income tax payments. (Thanks to the 14th amendment and the Federal Reserve Act)
This is the long and short of it: No Krugman necessary.
Download these videos and distribute them while you can.

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Sheeple
Posted by: DaBear on Mar 9, 2007 9:26 AM   
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