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How Bad Will the Economy Get? Really, Really Bad

By Thomas Greco, Jr., AlterNet. Posted July 14, 2009.


Historically, every financial and economic crisis has been used to further centralize power and concentrate wealth. This one is no different.
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Historically, every financial and economic crisis has been used to further centralize power and concentrate wealth. This one is no different, and in fact the moves being promoted by the Obama administration and the central banks of the Western powers will take the whole world to the pinnacle of financial despotism -- unless enough people wake up and claim their own "money power.”

In recent months, the Fed has expanded its "assets" from about $800 billion to more than $2,000 billion. Those so-called assets are securities it bought from financial institutions and loans made to central banks in other countries. But the Fed refuses to name the specific recipients of those funds, while admitting that by doing so they are manipulating the value of the US dollar on foreign exchange markets. (Congressman Alan Grayson Grills Fed Vice Chair Donald Kohn.)

Where does the Fed get the money to buy those "assets" or to make those loans? Quite simply, it creates the money. Unlike you or me or any other economic entity, the Fed has the power to create Federal Reserve dollars by effectively writing a check against no funds. This is the function known as "Open Market Operations."

What is the economy experiencing now, and what is in prospect for the future? Despite unprecedented inflation of the money supply, we are now (mid-July, 2009) in a period of depression. How can we have simultaneous inflation of the currency and still have economic depression?

It is a matter of where the money is going. While the public sector (federal government) is being lavishly funded to maintain a global empire, and the banks are being bailed out to try to keep a dysfunctional and destructive financial system from collapsing, the private productive sector is being starved for credit. As a result, businesses are bankrupting, people are losing their jobs and their incomes, and lower levels of government are being squeezed because their tax revenues are shrinking.

There is also the matter of the real estate bubble that was created by the financial institutions as they loaded up the private sector with a debt burden that was way beyond its ability to bear. Now that burden is being shifted to the public sector as the government assumes those "toxic" loans. Unfortunately, it is not the poor suckers who were lured into the debt trap that are being relieved, but the predatory lenders who laid the traps. So mortgages are being foreclosed at an unprecedented scale, people are losing their equity as housing values plunge, and more Americans are being made homeless.

These are the factors that have so far kept the effects of monetary inflation from becoming extreme. Ultimately, however, such abusive issuance of political money shows up as rising prices.

When will the price effects of hyper-inflation begin to kick in? How will the government respond to it? What will be the social and political fallout? What can ordinary people do to protect themselves from monetary and legislative abuses? These are the questions that beg for answers.

Already there are rumblings and signs that the U.S. dollar is about to lose its status as the global reserve currency. When that happens, imports of energy and other necessities will become more expensive. The U.S.’s massive trade deficits will not be sustained into the future. China, the OPEC countries, and others that have been buying massive amounts of U.S. government bonds with their dollar earnings, are indicating that their appetite has been sated. Bilateral and multilateral trade agreements are being made that bypass the use of the dollar for international trade.

One thing is clear -- we cannot rely upon the government to act in the best interests of the people. Already, President Obama has moved to give the Federal Reserve even more power to control the people's credit and financial resources. According to a June 18 article in the Wall Street Journal, "The central bank would win power to monitor risks across the financial system, and sweeping authority to examine any firm that could threaten financial stability, even if the Fed wouldn't normally supervise the institution." This is not a new plan; it was floated as a trial balloon during the Bush administration. As early as March 2008, then Treasury Secretary Paulson was proposing to "give the Federal Reserve broad new authority to oversee financial market stability, in effect allowing it to send SWAT teams into any corner of the industry or any institution that might pose a risk to the overall system."


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Thomas H. Greco, Jr. is the director of the Community Information Resource Center, which he founded in 1992. CIRC is a nonprofit consulting organization and networking hub dedicated to economic equity, social justice, and community improvement, specializing in community currency and mutual credit design, development, and implementation. His newest book is The End of Money and the Future of Civilization.

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Posted by: RevolutionNet on Jul 14, 2009 12:25 AM   
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"One thing is clear -- we cannot rely upon the government to act in the best interests of the people."

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» Direct Democracy? Posted by: JimmyChang
» RE: Direct Democracy? Posted by: richholland
» RE: Direct Democracy? Posted by: Blackfeetboy
» Another Option Posted by: james108
Excellent Analysis ... Solution ~ Not So Much ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Jul 14, 2009 1:35 AM   
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The analysis of the financial crisis, the role of the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve and the moves by the Obama Administration are spot on ... We the people are being raped and pillaged by the "Fed", the Wall Street Banks with the approval and collusion of Obama ...

The solution offered ... cashless trading is a waste of time, not an answer. We see the example given with only $1.3 billion in business after 75 years ... and the players still have to financially interface with the banking system for all their other needs ...

My solution would be to nationalize the Fed, put it into the United States Treasury and start printing our own money while prohibiting bankers from using fractional reserve banking. All currency and credit would be originated by the US government so that credit could only grow by a manged amount every year. Any money loaned by banks above and beyond their deposits would have to be borrowed from the now public central bank through credit auctions.

As a short run end run, communities should set up their own Credit Unions. The profits could be used to run community programs such as health care or public housing ... The problem here is that as financial institutions are viewed with suspicion ... liberals and progressives are going to have to get into the nuts and bolts of finance to understand it, use it for themselves and eventually break the back of the banking monopoly that has taken our Sovereign, Constitutional rights of credit and currency creation in the biggest fraud in the history of mankind ...

Taking back our right to manage the financial system through the creation of our own currency and managing credit would benefit the people of the United States tens of trillions of dollars over the next two decades. We would be saving a half a trillion a year in interst while we could create more than a trillion a year with no debt and still cause no excess inflation !

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» Community Credit Unions ... Posted by: mmckinl
Bad apples
Posted by: Perry Logan on Jul 14, 2009 2:52 AM   
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I'm no historian, but didn't the New Deal lower the poverty rate in America from over 50% to around 20%? This is starkly inconsistent with the notion that economic crises necessarily result in a centralization of power.

Where power is centralized, people tend to get poorer. That's why wealth disparity tends to increase under Republicans and decrease under Democrats.

If we're having a power grab this time round, it is because Obama is not a Democrat--a fact which became evident during the primaries, when the favored technique of his supporters was to call lifelong Democrats racists.

I promise you--if you call me a racist, you have made an enemy for life.

The Democratic Party has been taken over by bad apples. Perhaps we could call them O-holes.

O-holes hate the Clintons so much they are willing to spread right-wing disinformation about them. They hate the DLC. They don't mind fighting dirty--I'm a witness.

O-holes hang around at Democratic Underground and Huffington Post. They are misogynists. They honest-to-God thought Barack Obama would be a good President. They have moved Democratic headquarters to Chicago. We are so screwed.


On a happier note, Rush Limbaugh's Kidneys Are on Fire

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» RE: Bad apples Posted by: snax
» RE: Bad apples Posted by: HoboHomo
» Hillary lost. Get over it. Posted by: rafaeltoral
» Obama is dlc as is Hillary Posted by: noalternative
You know things are bad...
Posted by: photon's feather on Jul 14, 2009 3:17 AM   
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when "the father of Reaganomics" puts the Democrats to shame.

Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts:

video


(Yeah, I know, political motives...)

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» Thanks for the laugh Posted by: photon's feather
Our economy is based off of borrowing endlessly from China
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 14, 2009 3:38 AM   
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be it war spending or bailing out Wall $treet. China is already doing what it takes to force the US to pay and at some point taking over the nation is inevitable. Right now, there's no indicator that Congress and the White House plan to raise taxes on the wealthy and corporate elite, cancel those "free" trade scams, reign in military spending, etc ... As I see it, the poor and the middle class are likely to get taxed more directly or indirectly with nothing to show for their tax dollars.

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» RE: China now owns Hummer Posted by: kettleblack
Recommended Reading. Web of Debt
Posted by: davidhhahn on Jul 14, 2009 5:06 AM   
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I recommend this read: http://www.webofdebt.com

Gives plenty of perspective of where we are at now.

Audit the fed, at least.

Dismantle it is better.

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the warning...
Posted by: ellie on Jul 14, 2009 5:18 AM   
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of this article is basically, get your stuff out of the banks and markets pronto!!!

ideas were floated around during the bank bail out to include credit unions, but surprise... the credit unions were stable, the one kinda safe haven for regular folks... this brainstorm is still on the fed table... if they get away with this, now what do we have left??? still going to hang with my credit union, but at the first twitch of the feds coming in, gonna bail...

the chickens are coming in to roost soon and we the people are going to really be in financial straits, as if we aren't already...

how about some transparency that was promised??? so far, all we have are double negative words and the belief that the people can't run a spreadsheet... you have x$$ in and x$$ out, what's left??? simple...

we need wall street shut down for a week to let things shake out so we can see what is really left... shut the banks that got bailout $$ at the same time... where did they spend the $$ they already got and now they want another handout???

ridiculous!!! does the fed really think we are that dumb???

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» RE: the warning... Posted by: snax
» RE: the warning... Posted by: MT512
Sound Money
Posted by: snowhound on Jul 14, 2009 5:21 AM   
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Money is worthless because it has no real value. If we were still on a gold standard, they wouldn't be able to create money out of thin air because it would have to be redeemable in gold or silver. Any fiat currencies will eventually inflate to the point where they hold very little value. This is because governments will always resort to the printing press to maintain it's power and social programs.

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» Right wing propaganda Posted by: Paul_C
» RE: ight wing propaganda Posted by: snowhound
» RE: Right wing propaganda Posted by: cplot
» Historically inaccurate Posted by: brunowe
» RE: Historically inaccurate Posted by: snowhound
» RE: Historically inaccurate Posted by: kelly.nickell
» RE: Sound Money Posted by: cplot
» RE: Sound Money Posted by: snowhound
» RE: Sound Money Posted by: cplot
» RE: Sound Money Posted by: kogwonton
goto:GoldmanSachs666.com
Posted by: weathered on Jul 14, 2009 5:33 AM   
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swine dining at the trough of greed.

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Is This Just Obama? Don't Think So.
Posted by: Lilly on Jul 14, 2009 6:02 AM   
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I never in my life took an Economics course because I knew what it would do to my English-major GPA so this may be a stupid question but, weren't we already centralizing money and power when Obama was still in Chicago? I was reading Jim Lobe's excellent AlterNet article "Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception", the best concise description of Neoconservatism that I have found. Strauss was the University of Chicago professor who formulated Neoconservatism---at his feet sat Paul Wolfowitz and Ahmad Chalabi, among other familiar names. And Point # 1 of Neoconservatism is that money and power are to be in the hands of the "elites" (everbody else, namely us, being "the masses"). The strong leader is to be amoral and deceptive, using religion and patriotism to control "the masses" domestically as aggressive foreign policy is pusued to subjugate the rest of the world both military and economically. A strong middle class is to be discouraged and gradually destroyed. All of this sounds as if it were invented to describe Dick Cheney, who certainly did his bit to put money and economic power in the hands of his chosen few.

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» Some Obama additions Posted by: james108
rgd
Posted by: rgd on Jul 14, 2009 6:51 AM   
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Right on in pointing out the problem but I am having trouble with your solution. Bartering will only take you so far. We need to get the fed out and get a congress accountable to us. Perhaps It is time to go third party. It won't be the fix-all, but it will be a start in the right direction. In any event, the election of 2010 will be interesting.
Alternet is finally starting to print articles that expose the root of the problem. Keep it up.

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Old school
Posted by: solrev on Jul 14, 2009 7:30 AM   
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It seems that much of the analysis is based on old school thinking, if you think like a globalist prices do not have to rise no matter how much money you create. There is an infinite supply of cheap labor in China and India and other emerging markets as far as the eye can see, this can keep prices from rising in fact the globalists can actually reduce prices. This is a necessity for the globalist to create new consumers and maintain cheap labor. The jobless bubble recovery of the Bush era has been taken over by the jobless bubble recovery of the Obama era. If you want a job you are going to have to work like the Chinese or Indians. Everything is on schedule. If you want the cheap globalist goods you have to become cheap labor for the globalists. It is better than being a slave. If you want to protect your standard of living, you better become a protectionist. A high standard of living for labor is not about a quantity of money; it is about leisure time and some money to pursue happiness. When the Obama bubble breaks the globalists will be in a position to dump the debt ridden US. The people of China and India are counting on you to not let the globalists bale them selves out by taking you down. What else can they hope for?

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Who cares? If it's good enough for them they'll keep sucking at it.
Posted by: Jason Jordan on Jul 14, 2009 8:34 AM   
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To me, it makes no difference since I'm long used to living in tough economic times.

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Tride
Posted by: Tride on Jul 14, 2009 8:41 AM   
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It really is time for everyone to stop making their home mortgage payments--even if they can.
We the people must come together and save ourselves from the dastardly, corrupt, and heartless elite that run our country.
They can't hear us.
Stop making your payments.
It is the only truly patriotic and American thing you can do right now.
Show your support for your country, your state, your community and your neighborhood by flying the American Flag on your home to demonstrate your support for an end to the tyranny of Big Government, and Big Business and to proclaim that you are a true American Patriot and have stopped making your payments in support of freedom, justice and the people and families of our once great country.

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» RE: Tride Posted by: cplot
» Stop working = Stop paying taxes. Posted by: rafaeltoral
Personally, I am having a good year!
Posted by: AJR Journal on Jul 14, 2009 9:12 AM   
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I am in a layoff-proof job that pays $62,000. per year. I am landlord to over 110 tenants, with over 95% paid occupancy. Interest rates are are SO low!
My cash flow has never been stronger.
Recession, what recession?

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» Tell your Mom I said "Hi" Posted by: AJR Journal
I agree we will not see the end of this depression, it will expand the ranks of the working poor
Posted by: Paul_C on Jul 14, 2009 9:25 AM   
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while continuing the escalating transfer of wealth upward.

Quality of life will continue to degrade.

We are truly headed for third world status.

The only answer is nonviolent civil disobedience in every aspect of our lives. We have to begin searching for any way possible to opt out of this system.

We are 70 percent of this economy. We have the power to starve it into submission. We must demonstrate that resolve.

peace,
Paul

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It's a been a long time coming.
Posted by: pawheel on Jul 14, 2009 9:46 AM   
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We are feeling the end result of a concept that was originally called "Reaganomics". It was finalized in 2008 when members of Congress were told by the Bush administration that they needed to pass a 3 page bill that would solve the economic crisis. They were told that if it didn't pass then there would be Marshall law imposed. I saw a Congressman say that on national TV, It may have been Barney Frank, and I think it was Democracy Now.
The Neocons took power in the 80s after Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney and the rest started up in the Nixon and Ford administrations. They considered us consumers, not citizens. Proof; 9/12/2001 - Resident Bush was asked what we should do after the attack. His answer? GO SHOPPING! It's not the Dems, it's not the Repubs, it's higher up than either of them. FOLLOW THE MONEY!
Then get smart and work toward REAL change;
THE GREEN PARTY! www.gp.org.

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1st of all:Franklin Roosevelt- Not Franking
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jul 14, 2009 11:51 AM   
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That alone makes one wonder who fact checks or edits this stuff before it hits the screen...

For all the wishes of the self-styled progressives/liberals, the plain and simple fact is that for most of our history the United States has been ruled as a conservative country, protecting the interests of established money and power and the social status quo.

Women were not given the right to vote- they demanded it. African-Americans were not given an end to slavery and later Jim Crow by anyone- they demanded it. The 40 hour week and other workplace changes were not handed out by enlightened employers or society- they were fought for and demanded by people sick and tired of the situation they were in.

So many seem to think that throwing money at an organization, signing a petition or voting for candidate fill-in-the-blank is going to result in finally getting the change they seek. I hate to inform you, but that is not the case. You will have to pu down your iPhone/BlackBerry, get outside, organize, protest and crank up the heat on elected officials in all levels of government to bring about real change. It's not a one time thing or a one day event- it's a continuous process on many fronts and requires more commitment than many are willing to put out.

I assure you that those who have wealth, power, influence and assets are vigilant to invest time, money and influence to improve their position within and without the halls of power. They always have and always will. Since they can buy influence and power with their considerable resources and most of us do not, we have to make our change with sweat equity- otherwise, do it ourselves.

What the last 2 election cycles have accomplished is exchange one set of careerist politicians for another set- assumably beholden to a different set of values. The way they are voting and behaving says that is largely a fallacy. We, as citizens will have to hold their feet to the fire for days, weeks and years to get the political changes we seek accomplished.

The truth be told, we live in a society where the average adult can tell you who is ahead on American Idol or what movie is hot right now, but cannot tell you who represents them in the US House, the Senate, the State Assembly, the City Council or the School Board. Until that changes, we will largely be left to twist in the wind as the powerful run most everything.

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Capitalism SUCKS
Posted by: willymack on Jul 14, 2009 12:28 PM   
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Except for the greedy assholes at the top.
We haven't even seen how bad it can get, except for the greedy assholes at the top.
It's time for something more fair for the majority, and to hell with the greedy assholes at the top.

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As I said before, you DO have a vote that counts
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jul 14, 2009 1:38 PM   
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You can buy precious metals-- gold, silver, palladium, etc. This will put what's left of your money in tangible assets that can't be destroyed by systematic inflation.

This is a vote against the established order such as the Federal Reserve that fears the price of gold and silver more than anything. This is why central banks around the world have been falling all over themselves to keep the price of gold and silver down with all kinds of manipulative schemes. It will ultimately fail.

You can protect your money, or you can go over the cliff with the dollar and the rest of the lemmings. Your choice.

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fire it up
Posted by: what on Jul 14, 2009 6:27 PM   
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Hold to your hats people. Phase II of the economic crash is about to hit.

Phase I was the banks looting everything but the shirts on our backs.

Phase II will be the state governments being gutted come this next fiscal year. Think its bad now? You ain't seen nothing yet Popeye. Fire it UP!

The banking overlords and their underlings, the mega-corporations, have shown their hand. What will we do? TYPE MORE!! LOUDER! TYPE!

Oh no, there are no conspiracies. You keep believing that. Keep eating the chocolate truffles they feed us on TV. There is another pill to make it all better. Red, Green, Purple or how about a mixed color capsule? - love you long time.

Everything is for sale. Even our minds if the price is right. Nothing can stop what is about to occur. Protest your outrage on the web! No need to stand in the street and SHOUT! People will be looking at me.

You have been warned. Phase II is about to commence. America has been bought and is now being liquidated. You still have what the bankers want, spare change!! Can you spare a buck or two? Get away from me you bum, get a job!

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We were fooled again!
Posted by: bh on Jul 14, 2009 9:57 PM   
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I bought into the entire Obama thing hook line and sinker. He's like all the rest, full of crap. He has done nothing about keeping good jobs here in the country. No penalties for shipping jobs overseas. No new manufacturing incentives. Just business as usual, screw the American worker. There are really difficult times approaching. It's not a joke but Taco Bell and Burger King might be considered good jobs in the near future. We are in serious trouble my fellow country men. BLH

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Real Estates....
Posted by: MargaretA on Jul 15, 2009 2:12 AM   
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A lot of people will quite frankly buy anything if you tell them its designer; designer this, designer that, designer Baby Jane, designer jeans, designer air, and now designer home tending. Designer home tending implies a lot, but here's what it is: if you're selling your home and have moved out, the real estate company will get someone to live in your home and keep it looking good for prospective buyers. They'll mow your lawn, do the windows, little bits of home improvement to get your place to sell. You won't even need payday advances for it – it's free. It's good to know you won't need debt relief to get your house spruced up for sale with designer home tending.

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Bye Bye Bank?
Posted by: Woodenman on Jul 16, 2009 8:17 PM   
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I would like to know if we will be watching TV on Sept 9 with our jaws hanging open. Doesn't anybody have an opinion on the Bank Holiday link or is it not in the realm of possibility?

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SOCIALISM IS EXPENSIVE!!! U Pay 2
Posted by: reelman on Jul 17, 2009 7:07 AM   
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BUCHANAN: THE SOCIALIST SUMMARY

Socialist America sinking
7.16.09 by P. Buchanan

….. One need only glance at where we were before the New Deal, where we are and where we are headed to see how far we are off the course the Founding Fathers set for our republic.
Taxes drove the American Revolution, for we were a taxaphobic, liberty-loving people. When Coolidge went home in 1929, the U.S. government was spending 3 percent of gross domestic product.
And today? Obama’s first budget will consume 28 percent of the entire GDP; state and local governments another 15 percent. While there is some overlap, in 2009, government will consume 40 percent of GDP, approaching the peak of World War II.

The deficit for 2009 is $1.8 trillion, 13 percent of the whole economy. Obama is pushing a cap-and-trade bill to cut carbon emissions that will impose huge costs on energy production, spike consumer prices and drive production offshore to China, which is opting out of Kyoto II. The Chinese are not fools.
Obama plans to repeal the Bush tax cuts and take the income tax rate to near 40 percent. Combined state and local income tax rates can run to 10 percent. For the self-employed, payroll taxes add up to 15.2 percent on the first $106,800 for all wages of all workers. Medicare takes 2.9 percent of all wages above that. Then there are the state sales taxes that can run to 8 percent, property taxes, gas taxes, excise taxes and “sin taxes” on booze, cigarettes and, soon, hot dogs and soft drinks.

Comes now national health insurance from Nancy Pelosi’s House. A surtax that runs to 5.4 percent of all earnings of the top 1 percent of Americans, who already pay 40 percent of all federal income taxes, has been sent to the Senate. Included also is an 8 percent tax on the entire payroll of small businesses that fail to provide health insurance for employees.

Other ideas on the table include taxing the health benefits that businesses provide their employees…..

CRAWFISH NOTE: Read this post again. Is there anything in it (all FACTS) that does not scare the average voter?
There is no free lunch in socialism. You will pay…not only personally but inflation must rise dramatically as debt soars. Taxing the so-called rich (most are small businesses) means its passed to the consumer (aka you) or jobs are lost (aka yours). That means the “little guy” is again hurt by the democrat Party. Keep in mind the gov-meant has a history of being 3-9x too low on new program costs (they are either dim or deceptive) to voters. Ever heard of taxing your way to prosperity? When and where?
If the liberals had been teaching real 20th century history in our schools the younger voters would know the 1970s Misery Index of democrat Jimmah Carter. Look it up now. Watch the Dow…it was 13k the summer of 2008. Wanna bet its 12k next summer? Go “hope” for that “change” too.
Another democrat “Tax U Phase” is near (aka buy votes/create dependency/grow gov-meant). Plan accordingly. J. Carter Obama lives.

http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish

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» That's all you got? Posted by: cdmsr
RE: .How about currency trading?
Posted by: JPHickey on Jul 18, 2009 1:51 PM   
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Soros made his billions doing this. It is as speculative and non-productive as you can get. However,with more money you could be in the position to support food banks and the growing masses of the needy.

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I appreciate this nonetheless
Posted by: JPHickey on Jul 18, 2009 1:47 PM   
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I cannot exactly rate you that highly because your post is really rather middle-of-the-road.

Living in wealthy Sedona, AZ, and well-established in the largest, wealthiest church in town, I may be able to connect with enough work to tide me over. The minister's wife is also a realtor, and I knew her when I also sold real estate here.

I suffer from an invisible disability known as mitochrondrial cytopathy. Toxic exposures can cause my heart of race, beat wildly, or possibly stop. But I might be able to take care of a few empty mansions around town, while their wealthy owners hold their breath and wait for a market-turnaround that may never come.

I have cared for mansions while the owners were on vacation, but I needed an "in" to gain new customers. Your clue might be enough to help me keep food on the table for some time. (I also have a small pension and soc.security, but it is not quite enough.)

Finally I'm 67 & I've been living by my wits for 2 decades here in wealthy Sedona. I am not one to thrust myself into employment without respect. Thanks again for the clue.

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Decentralization may be inevitable!
Posted by: JPHickey on Jul 18, 2009 2:22 PM   
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Rather than continuously going over what is happening to the country and the world, I can only find comfort in envisioning what sort of life we can cobble together if and when the centralized system fails for whatever reason. If nothing else, there's always peak oil ready to rear its challenging head!

I harken back to the preindustrial American way of living for hints on living locally and self-reliantly. Really the "can-do" neighborly localism was just about all they had in those days, but life could be good.

There were more opportunities for self-development and good honest work for oneself, one's familily and the local community.

Gardens were essential, and so were root cellars. Children learned to entertain themselves, and being accomplished in playing instruments or reading good literature were enriching ways to fill the time.

Our instable mobile way of life has left us dependent on financial means rather than our family, friends, neighbors, and communities.

Learned helplessness has created a nation of deluded sicklings who are overweight, addicted to health-destructive foods, and then have to run to expensive, exploitive, symptom-based medicine.

If and when peak oil's impacts intensify, supplies of those expensive those toxic pharmaceuticals will be curtailed.

I'll go on ahead and brag about taking charge of my own health and avoiding the toxic, deluded medicine (except for diagnostic purposes).

Instead of the infantilized dependency on money, I prefer to build mutually supportive and collaborative contacts before the doo doo hits the fan. I also am an experienced gardener, and I do practive bartering -- for decades.

I believe we'll set up a local system of script as an essential part of the exchange process.

Personally, at age 67, I believe in being responsible for my health, and I consider choosing how I spend my time to be worth more than billions in the bank. The older I get, the more indelible this realization is etched into my brain.

In a genuine community, people respect one-another more than they do the other guy's wherewithall. The ideal of democracy is based on the equal value of each of us as human beings. Maybe the nation really hasn't been able to nourish this insight to the higher levels of human potential, but the principle endures while the money-system may come and go. Substitution money for humanity doesn't really lead to fair-square deals, but exploitation and glorified slavery.

We may be on the brink of a more fulfilling era if we can get through the bumpy transition (transformation).

Note: Wealthy investors are investing in farm lands, especially lands that can be changed to organic growing. If worse comes to worse, legal title to land may not be as secure once the new rules emerge. Time will tell.

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INEPT AND CORRUPT OBAMA
Posted by: reelman on Jul 20, 2009 11:01 AM   
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OBAMA INEPT CULTURE OF CORRUPTION

SPENDING SCARED: WHITE HOUSE PUTS OFF RELEASE OF BUDGET UPDATE…
RECOVERY.GOV // AWARDED: $2,531,600 FOR ‘HAM, WATER ADDED, COOKED, FROZEN, SLICED, 2-LB’…
$1,191,200 FOR ‘2 POUND FROZEN HAM SLICED’…
$351,807 FOR ‘REPLACE AND UPGRADE THE DUMBWAITER’…
$1,562,568 FOR ‘MOZZARELLA CHEESE’…
$5,708,260 FOR ‘PROCESS CHEESE’…
$16,784,272 FOR ‘CANNED PORK’…
$1,444,100 FOR ‘REPAIR DOOR BLDG 5112′…
$541,119 FOR ‘INSTALL TRAFFIC SIGNAL’…
Agriculture Sec. Vilsack: ‘Purchased 760,000 Lbs of ham at cost of approximately $1.50 per pound’…FOOD LION: $.79 Lb…

CRAWFISH NOTE: J. Carter Obama is fading…secular socialists talk the talk but never walk the walk.
National democrats have a mental disorder that forces them to spend wildly, to lie daily, to distort reality, to abandon common sense, to ignore history and to forget economic laws.

Now we have the most strident of the strident. We have an administration of kooks that cannot manage a hot dog stand. Any gov-meant program is 3-9x more costly than the “sale price”. History tells us that much.
To the Obama-Reid-Pelosi trio you are a moron. You believe up is down, a cat is a dog, 12 million illegals should be covered by health care with your VISA and gov-meant is efficient, yada, yada…total absolute incompetence yet they have plans for trillions more borrowed debt money.
Notice congress has already exempted themselves from having to join any new nationalized program! What does that tell you?

All has to be “done now” because when reality sets in and excuses grow stale…
the rage at your 401k stagnation, the jobless effects and the constant lying on TV to the voters is all going to hit the democrat Party in the face.
Very ugly and very well-deserved.
As I said before, by Labor Day the Obama Party will be over. Secular socialism revealed is a horror. We tried to warn you all of 2008.

http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish

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O-holes
Posted by: hahaho on Jul 30, 2009 9:18 AM   
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O-holes hate the Clintons so much they are willing to spread right-wing disinformation about them. They hate the DLC. They don't mind fighting dirty--I'm a witness.links of london tiffanyO-holes hang around at Democratic Underground and Huffington Post. They are misogynists. They honest-to-God thought Barack Obama would be a good President. They have moved Democratic headquarters to Chicago. We are so screwed.

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