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The Results Are In: A Public Health Plan Saves Big Money

By Bill Scher, Campaign for America's Future. Posted July 3, 2009.


The arguments by obstructionists are dead -- the math shows health care costs will drop while achieving near universal coverage.
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When the CBO scored an early draft of the health care form bill from the Senate HELP committee as costing $1 trillion over 10 years but only covering one-third of the uninsured, obstructionists pounced and proclaimed the public plan option dead.

But the CBO had not assessed the cost of the public plan option, nor a mandate on most employers to either provide insurance or contribute to the public plan.

Now they have. And as serious reform advocates long claimed, including those two key provisions drops the 10-year cost of reform by nearly $400 billion, while achieving near universal coverage.

Will the self-proclaimed deficit hawks now embrace the public plan option since it would save money? Or will they come up with fresh excuses, such as fear-mongering that the public plan would decimate the private insurance industry?

Let's add one more piece of information to the mix: the underreported report from the Urban Institute, "Is the Public Plan Option a Necessary Part of Health Reform?"

What did the Urban Institute find?

First, a public plan won't kill competition, because competition is currently non-existent:

...health insurance markets today, by and large, are simply not competitive. And as such, these markets are not providing the benefits one would expect from competition, including efficient operations and consequent control over health care costs. We believe that the concentration in the insurance and hospital industries that has taken place over the past several years has been a significant contributor to this problem. The role of the government plan is to counter the adverse impacts of market concentration and, in doing so, slow the growth in health care costs.

Second, Urban predicts private companies would respond to the new competition in a fashion that would allow them to maintain a significant share of the market, taking issue with an earlier report from the Lewin Group that assumed a whopping 119 million would leave private plans.

The Lewin report ... did not assume that there would be a response on the part of private payers. Private insurers would clearly respond to the presence of a public plan competitor by negotiating more aggressively with providers. Providers in turn would most likely find it in their interest to negotiate lower rates with insurers; otherwise, they would risk the exit of private plans and have only the public plan with which to contract. As private plans bring down their costs, the difference in their premiums from those of the public plan would shrink as well, possibly attracting more enrollees ... [While] any enrollment prediction will require significant assumptions about individual behavior ... We predict that roughly 70 percent of the low-income exchange enrollees (those under 200 percent of the federal poverty level) would choose the public plan, with the likelihood of choosing the public plan falling as income increases ... about 47 million would enroll in coverage through the public plan ... Private plans would continue to serve about 161 million Americans.

If the public plan option saves money, enhances competition and far from prompts the collapse of private insurance (which is the only scenario where public plan option polls badly), then the detractors have literally no leg to stand on.


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We Are About To Make History on US Health Care Reform
Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 3, 2009 2:48 AM   
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The corporate monied interests known it.

They are desperately manuevering to get a seat on this long stalled train which is now pulling out of the station.

We will see US health care reform in 2009 and it WILL include a public health insurance option

Dr. Rick Lippin
S0uthampton, Pa
my blog

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This would be great...
Posted by: progressive-life on Jul 3, 2009 3:57 AM   
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except as a small biz owner I'm trying to find ways to pay for the cost of the mandatory health care coverage...like converting full time to part time and eliminating at least one employee.

They aren't happy, nor am I, but in the end like I explained to them, there are no free rides.. you want health care, you have to pay for it..dont expect me to ! I pay for my own, with no help from anyone! I will contribute some as a benefit, but WE ALL WILL SHARE IN THE BURDEN!

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» RE: This would be great... Posted by: jobeob
» RE: This would be great... Posted by: johnmont
just read...
Posted by: ellie on Jul 3, 2009 5:02 AM   
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the latest idea right now is to force everyone to have health insurance by way of a $1,000.00 fine if you don't... it will use the IRS to find slackers and fine them on the 1040... ok, so if someone does not make enough $$ to be required to file a 1040, they sure don't have the $1,000.00 fine money...

the new donut hole will be people who earn too little to have to file taxes (less then $8k year), but do not qualify for state or federal coverage (example reasons: no kids under 18, under 65, unemployment run out, nor qualify for SSD or other benefits)... trust me, there are a millions of people that are going to get hung with this idea...

can we please have single payor once and for all!!!

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How Will the GOP React?
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jul 3, 2009 5:28 AM   
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Republicans have long railed against government bureaucracy and waste, so it will be interesting to see how they react to the idea of cutting corporate bureaucracy and waste.

To me it seems likely that they will revert to their usual stance that government is bad and private corporations are good. As usual, facts will not impress them; studies can be slandered and these no doubt will be in much the way that the right has denied the science of global climate disruption.

The GOP does not give a damn about bureaucracy and waste and it does not give a damn about facts and reason so long as Republicans can line their own pockets and those of their friends.

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Ms
Posted by: Svejk on Jul 3, 2009 6:27 AM   
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Single payer health care will provide universal coverage, not NEAR universal coverage, and the initial funding will come from the nearly 400 billion dollars saved by eliminating the insurance companies and their profits.

Eliminating the problem - insurers - is the answer.

The refrain of "single-payer is the way to go, but it can't pass" is bogus. Medicare, Civil Rights, Women's suffrage were all "impossible", but were passed. Grassroots work.

Support H.R. 676 - it's affordable, it's fair, it's universal.

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But what about CBO scoring for single payer?
Posted by: sherry on Jul 3, 2009 7:03 AM   
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Strange, isn't it, how the only bill with 83 sponsors doesn't get CBO scoring? Write, fax, email, call your representatives (including the White House) and insist Congress ask the CBO to score the plan proposed in HR 676.

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No one is talking about this!
Posted by: wireup on Jul 3, 2009 7:13 AM   
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In all the talk I have heard and read on the awful "sick care" system we have in this country, NO ONE is talking about how to prevent illness in the first place, ie taking responsibility for one's own health care, stopping problems BEFORE they become problems.

How do you do this?

Through eating properly, taking supplements, exercising, and using alternative modalities.

Why is this NOT on the table?

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» RE: No one is talking about this! Posted by: ikonoklast
» RE: No one is talking about this! Posted by: bluevistas
Any politician who opposes universal public health care is an enemy of the people
Posted by: ikonoklast on Jul 3, 2009 8:12 AM   
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and should be removed from office immediately!

I know that my representatives will never again receive my vote if they oppose the public health care plan, and I know they know. Make them hear what you want, and make them know their jobs are on the line!

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Did you guys not learn the lessons of the bailouts?
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jul 3, 2009 10:56 AM   
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Our government is willing to bailout and prop up the banking industry, the housing industry, and the automotive industry.

What in the hell makes you think they aren't willing to bailout/prop up the health insurance industry?

Who was mainly responsible for the original bailouts? The Democrats.


You can fool all of the people some of the time, and a majority of people all of the time.

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Then why the need to force it on people?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 3, 2009 11:35 AM   
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Grab your covered group, and fund it on your own.

If it works, I'll join you. For now, I'm good, thanks for asking.

Now there's a real public option!

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problems with the HELP proposal...
Posted by: bluevistas on Jul 3, 2009 12:09 PM   
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People who have employer-provided health coverage are EXCLUDED from this plan.

Do you have an extra 1-12.5% of your income in order to afford this HELP plan? My income has not risen in order to afford such a new expenditure, and I'm sure not eligible for a subsidy! So, out of luck again!

It does NOTHING to deal with the fragmented multi-corporations etc nature of what we currently have. Those high administrative costs (~30%) will continue.

SINGLE PAYER is the mechanism that will provide affordable universal coverage that avoids the fragmented complexities/coverages.

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re eating right, staying healthy etc
Posted by: CJC on Jul 3, 2009 1:52 PM   
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It's smart to take care of yourself and your family. Eat right, don't get fat, don't drink too much, don't smoke etc etc etc.

But even conscientious people get sick -
they may have a family history of something
they may get old and need care
they may have a child or a spouse who has a birth defect or a disability
they may have an accident
etc etc etc etc

In my own case I have always had good dental care from childhood on, I take care of my teeth and yet I have every tooth filled and several root canals. Fortunately this is something that can be managed and I've paid for everything out of pocket - but what if I had a weak circulatory system or a family history of a particular cancer or something else? None of us is guaranteed a long and healthy life and an easy quick death at 95 or 105 with no muss no fuss.

This is no argument for not taking public responsibility for making sure that everyone can get health care.

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It's morally wrong...
Posted by: reg373 on Jul 3, 2009 2:57 PM   
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to leave 100 million Americans un or underinsured, 1 illness away from financial ruin. And it's wrong to burden small business with the outrageous insurance costs also -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth

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PRIVATE FOR PROFIT HEALTHCARE IS AN OXYMORON
Posted by: jacksmith on Jul 4, 2009 12:55 AM   
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AMERICA’S NATIONAL HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY!

It’s official. America and the World are now in a GLOBAL PANDEMIC. A World EPIDEMIC with potential catastrophic consequences for ALL of the American people. The first PANDEMIC in 41 years. And WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES will have to face this PANDEMIC with the 37th worst quality of healthcare in the developed World.

STAND READY AMERICA TO SEIZE CONTROL OF YOUR NATIONAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

We spend over twice as much of our GDP on healthcare as any other country in the World. And Individual American spend about ten times as much out of pocket on healthcare as any other people in the World. All because of GREED! And the PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare system in America.

And while all this is going on, some members of congress seem mostly concern about how to protect the corporate PROFITS! of our GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT NATIONAL DISGRACE. A PRIVATE FOR PROFIT DISGRACE that is in fact, totally valueless to the public health. And a detriment to national security, public safety, and the public health.

Progressive democrats the Tri-Caucus and others should stand firm in their demand for a robust public option for all Americans, with all of the minimum requirements progressive democrats demanded. If congress can not pass a robust public option with at least 51 votes and all robust minimum requirements, congress should immediately move to scrap healthcare reform and request that President Obama declare a state of NATIONAL HEALTHCARE EMERGENCY! Seizing and replacing all PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance plans with the immediate implementation of National Healthcare for all Americans under the provisions of HR676 (A Single-payer National Healthcare Plan For All).

Coverage can begin immediately through our current medicare system. With immediate expansion through recruitment of displaced workers from the canceled private sector insurance industry. Funding can also begin immediately by substitution of payroll deductions for private insurance plans with payroll deductions for the national healthcare plan. This is what the vast majority of the American people want. And this is what all objective experts unanimously agree would be the best, and most cost effective for the American people and our economy.

In Mexico on average people who received medical care for A-H1N1 (Swine Flu) with in 3 days survived. People who did not receive medical care until 7 days or more died. This has been the same results in the US. But 50 million Americans don’t even have any healthcare coverage. And at least 200 million of you with insurance could not get in to see your private insurance plans doctors in 2 or 3 days, even if your life depended on it. WHICH IT DOES!

If President Obama has to declare a NATIONAL STATE OF EMERGENCY to rescue the American people from our healthcare crisis, he will need all the sustained support you can give him. STICK WITH HIM! He’s doing a brilliant job.

THIS IS THE BIG ONE!

THE BATTLE OF GOOD Vs EVIL!

Join the fight.

Contact congress and your representatives NOW! AND SPREAD THE WORD!

God Bless You

Jacksmith – WORKING CLASS

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before going all ga-ga over the Senate HELP proposal--
Posted by: bluevistas on Jul 4, 2009 4:51 AM   
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read it.
http://www.centerforpolicyanalysis.org/id37.html

and weep.

There's no public opting in. The only folks to get in are basically those now uninsured. Or those whose health insurance through employers is too high of a percentage of their income. Employers are mandated to provide private health insurance, there is a penalty for not covering employees.

Individuals now not covered with low and moderate incomes would have to pay from 1-12.5% of our income to buy in. My income has not increased 12.5% recently, has yours? This plan is still beyond my reach financially.

This "public option" does not address the basic problems with our healthcare "system"--like the ~30% administrative costs of private insurance--read "marketing/advertising, millions/billions for CEO pay, profit for shareholders. That 30% minus the 3% (Medicare's overhead) could/should go toward provision of services.

This "public option" is a HUGE financial windfall for the private health insurance corporations. Think about it! Employers being mandated to provide private insurance. What health insurance corporation isn't salivating to get all those new enrollees!!

The "public option" proposal will become a dumping ground for the chronically ill, costly (needing care which has been postponed), and surely will fail financially because the patient pool will be too small to gain all the advantages of a larger pool.

It adds another fragmented layer to the already cumbersome, unwieldy, confusing, provision of care we currently have. It does NOTHING to address the difficulties that practitioners, like myself, have to deal with now--the multiplicity of programs/plans/policies/eligibility.

Is this the change in healthcare that you want?


Here's a link to an analysis of the proposed "public option"--

http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6089

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well
Posted by: hahaho on Jul 30, 2009 5:05 AM   
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It was so well written that it literally flowed off my tongue as I read it aloud to my friend.
Well said Captain. Thanks for your efforts.links of london
tiffany

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