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McDonald's Is Poisoning Consumers -- And Blaming Everyone Else for the Catastrophic Societal Costs

By Stacey Folsom, AlterNet. Posted June 24, 2009.


McDonald's refuses to take responsibility for the skyrocketing rates of obesity, diabetes and cardiovascular disease.
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For most of us it’s not that difficult to understand how McDonald’s share profits rose over 2008 when the rest of the Dow Jones (save for Wal-Mart) was taking a nose dive. After all, they offer a value at the register that’s easy on our thinning pocketbooks.

That said, the value at the register is a misnomer when you look at the true costs McDonald’s is passing on to its patrons. Each year, the direct and indirect costs of diet-related disease cost Americans well over 120 billion dollars. Value meals cost a great deal more when you subdivide that tab by the number of us eating regularly at the Golden Arches and other chains that serve food high in fat, calories, salt and sugar.

McDonald’s has yet to take its share of the blame for this alarming number, let alone the skyrocketing rates of diet-related conditions like obesity, diabetes and cardiovascular disease. It has instead pumped hundreds of millions into a high-stakes, public relations blame game.

Line 1 – “It’s not our food that’s to blame, it’s a lack of exercise.” Too bad recent studies find that are kids and adults are not much less active than they were just 30 years ago when the amount of fast food being consumed was much lower.

Line 2 – “It’s not our marketing to kids that’s to blame, it’s all the video games and internet media that distract our kids from physical activity.” Have you ever seen McWorld, McDonald’s interactive online playland where, “it’s a kid’s world where kids rule?” Well, it provides a window into the duplicity of the corporation’s marketing to say the least.

Line 3 – “We’re a leader in offering healthier menu choices.” If that means offering salads that have more calories than a Big Mac and apple slices with a caramel dipping sauce…McDonald’s nutritionists seem to have fallen asleep behind the wheel.

And there are as many lines as you’ll find in your neighborhood McDonald’s and more.

But the American public is increasingly seeing through the antics. In a recent Corporate Accountability International poll conducted by Lake Research partners 57 percent of Americans said they believe the fast food industry was, “responsible…for the increase in diet-related diseases and health conditions.” This is a three-fold increase over a similar Gallup poll conducted in 2003.


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Stacey Folsom is the Development Director of Corporate Accountability International, an organization devoted to battling corporate abuse.

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Genetically Modified Organisms - The Monsanto world wide poision, Fat, Salt, packaging = crap
Posted by: Silverhawk on Jun 24, 2009 12:51 AM   
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McD's is not what we want or need to have a nutritious diet or a light recyclable waste load on our land fills coupled with to much damaging atmospheric off gassing via paper production. The white paper production results in super-toxic dioxin production that goes up the food chain to humans, and the toxic sulfer dioxide goes into the atmosphere as well, obesity withstanding. The generic brown paper is less harmful to humans, fish, and animals but just as hard on the land fills that don't have comprehensive recycling centers, atherosclerosis not withstanding.

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RE: The Nutrition Facts are Posted on the Wall.
Posted by: Tweck9 on Jun 24, 2009 6:53 AM   
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Funny, I've been in my local McDonalds a few times, and looked for the "nutrition facts" sign, and can't find it.

I think you are a liar.

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Did honkies I-VI give you 5's?
Posted by: Beck on Jun 24, 2009 6:56 AM   
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Did the anarchist join them?

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RE: The Nutrition Facts are Posted on the Wall.
Posted by: medusa on Jun 24, 2009 8:43 AM   
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It's a lack of exercise??? So many communities have built in such a manner that you cannot walk or run anywhere. Just recently we had a child and mother hit by a car because they were walking where there was no sidewalks. Also I lived back in the seventies when most people were really skinny, in those days we did not jog everyday or go on long walks, but we did eat more meat and fat. We ate more substantial meals and did not snack between meals. Then the doctors got involved and then everyone, even skinny models got fatter.

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Pure nonsense!
Posted by: heid on Jun 24, 2009 3:05 PM   
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When I lived in the US, I often asked to see the nutrition information. (Yes, I actually did.) Most of the time, if it was available - and often it wasn't - it was in a location where it couldn't be read. High on a wall in small print, completely unreadable to virtually everyone.

That was one of the things that told me the company knew what it was doing. Others were the children's play areas and Ronald McDonald. How on earth can they possibly say they don't market to children?

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Americans will blame everyone and everything
Posted by: sarcasme on Jun 24, 2009 1:25 AM   
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but themselves

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Don't blame McDonalds...
Posted by: Fempatriot on Jun 24, 2009 2:02 AM   
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blame the idiots who are so addicted to fast food they'd rather eat and die than to change their eating habits. We don't have to eat fast FRIED food in this country, just as the alcoholic doesn't have to visit his friendly neighborhood bar ever day. We choose to become addicted to fried foods, to booze, to sex, etc. Nobody holds a gun to your head. In this case--blame the victim, because they went into it willingly.

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» Both are not to blame. Posted by: countingdaisies
Poisoning
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jun 24, 2009 2:06 AM   
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So now we have to put up "McDonald's-free School Zone" signs everywhere? Next, it'll be smoke-free, candy-free, soda-free...We'll have no room left for stop signs, so everybody will crash into each other and die young anyway.

By the logic of this article, we'd have to go after Chateau La Foo Foo for selling butter-basted lamb chops with Hollandaise sauce and chocolate cheesecake. But we don't, because you're not supposed to eat there every day.

We're wasting our time blaming McD for selling the people what they want. We should focus on the rain forest and the extra trash like we did back in the 90s, and stop trying to be everybody's mommy.

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» RE: Poisoning Posted by: Tweck9
» RE: Poisoning Posted by: Tweck9
More diet dogma
Posted by: indradawn on Jun 24, 2009 2:24 AM   
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The increase of heart disease, diabetes and obesity is the direct result of our increased intake of refined starches (which turn straight to sugar in our bodies) and other carbohydrate plus sugar. Thank the Food Industry's Food Pyramid for putting the worst offenders at the bottom. Make sure to eat the hell out of those cheaply produced breads, flours, and pasta that over time cause insulin resistance and the obesity, diabetes, and heart disease that follow.

Fat is good for you when you DON'T EAT REFINED CARBOHYDRATE that binds fatty acids into triglycerides, the REAL killer. Instead, eat GOOD carbs in the form of fiber which does not impact your blood sugar levels and flood your system with insulin. Counting calories is a waste of time because your body's metabolism adjusts itself according to your caloric intake. Reduce your calories, your body's metabolism slows. It's how our bodies guard against starvation.

So go ahead and eat that Mickey D's salad, forget the calories. I've lost tons of weight eating them a couple of times a week. Just make sure your chicken is grilled, not breaded (with flours!) and your dressing isn't loaded with sugars.

Food industry lobbyists are the ones to blame for our current diet-related health epidemic. For all of McDonald's' bad food choices (fries, milkshakes, SODAS, etc.) they are still people's choices to make, and as Honky points out above, the Nutrition information is posted and available. What people really need is to be given scientifically proven information to make their own choices, not profit-motivated, politicized bullshit that keeps the food-industry's pockets full.

If any company possibly should be held to account, how about Coca-Cola? Selling liquid candy with caffeine, arguably making their products addictive to some and marketing them to children, promising kick-backs to schools who place their Coke machines on school campuses and touting that their products are low-fat and therefore not unhealthy is more of a culprit than McDonald's. All that corn syrup has been the cause of many more health problems than any other food ingredient. And it's cheap and in almost everything, like your Wonderbread that Wise Old Unc Sam and all his industry cronies tell you to eat by the ton.

And as much as I hate to say it, Honky's right on this one. McDonald's may not be the ideal marketer of healthy food, but dammit I can make choices for myself and so can the rest of America. When we are given the right information. The Nutrition Facts are, after all, posted on the wall.

Please do not attempt to mandate my health and safety or limit my choices based upon what you think I should be eating (i.e. New York City's bullshit war on fat in restaurants). Last I checked this was still America. Just stop lying to me about what's good for me and bad for me and give me the straight, unfiltered, unpoliticized science, please.

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» RE: More diet dogma Posted by: teel
» 75 pounds and counting.... Posted by: indradawn
» RE: 75 pounds and counting.... Posted by: Shalimarali
» RE: More diet dogma Posted by: bcain
sbohn
Posted by: sbohn on Jun 24, 2009 2:56 AM   
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I stand with Honky the Nihilist VII. McDonalds has filled a void, however unethically, and they can't be blamed for giving their customers what they think they want. The garbage they sell just tastes good. I get a Big Mac about three of four times a year, and I don't see that as a problem.

I think we all know that the stuff has nothing to do with nutrition, that their marketing is aimed at the most vulnerable of us, and that their ubiquitus advertising has made them as American as Hot Apple Pie. So what will we do about it?

Leqislative means are, if anything, counterproductive. They will just cause anger and a backlash from those too lazy or harried to cook for themselves. They are a part of the ruling paradigm, and unless we stop buying their wares, they and their ilk will continue to contribute to our collective obesity and lack of good health.

It is part and parcel with the disappearance of the nuclear family. Why should we do something for ouselves when someone is willing to do it for us at a price. The price is unreasonable high, but until we, one-by-one, realize this and stop consuming this over-hyped, over-caloried poison, we have only ourselves to blame. We are responsible for our choices and nobody else. The nutritional facts are on the wall.

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» RE: sbohn Posted by: Tweck9
Where are you, Morgan Spurlock?
Posted by: colinmeister on Jun 24, 2009 2:58 AM   
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I watched the excellent film "Supersize Me", and from that day on (4+ years) I estimate I have eaten McDonalds food 6 times.

Spurlock's film should be a required part of the curriculum for all school students in the USA and eslsewhere. Spurlock's physical deterioraton during his McDonalds experiment should be a good warning to younsters at present when this demographic seems obsessed by physical appearance.

Of course, one can't blame McDonalds for everything - it is quite easy to prepare very unhealthy food at home! Education can again play a part - scholars should also be taught to cook as part of their eduation.

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McDonald's Isn't Poisoning Me
Posted by: BeckyD on Jun 24, 2009 3:07 AM   
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I never eat there. When my children were young, we'd go there maybe once every couple of months when traveling.

People, being free agents, have choices. Ronald McDonald is not running around with a gun forcing people into the store. Once in the store, nobody is forced to choose a Big Mac over a salad, and the nutritional value of each food item is, I believe, available.

Free people sometimes make bad choices. Protecting us from our own bad choices limits freedom, and has no place in American society. What government can and should do is make certain we have the information available to make informed choices. I think that's already true in this case.

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» RE: McDonald's Isn't Poisoning Me Posted by: Shalimarali
....and it's not cheap.
Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Jun 24, 2009 3:43 AM   
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It's not healthy and it's not inexpensive.

A lot of people live(sort of) on fast food.......and many of those people are poor and obese.

But.....that's their choice.....to stay poor and obese.



Allstar Cookie

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» RE: ....and it's not cheap. Posted by: dcande01
» Right.... Posted by: indradawn
» RE: Right.... Posted by: Squarehead
read the label
Posted by: grmartin on Jun 24, 2009 3:59 AM   
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There's lots of unaware and careless people who gobble all kinds of highly processed McFood, so why not legislate limits on excessive food ingredients and additives. And there should also be public education on label reading. Recently I found myself eating canned baked beans more salt that a large bag of chips. This stuff should not have been made or marketeted, I didn't read the very clear label.

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» In the words of Jello Biafra... Posted by: indradawn
I Wish It Was This Simple
Posted by: dcande01 on Jun 24, 2009 4:07 AM   
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I can't stand McDonalds because of its animal abuse. However, blaming it for my obesity is not possible. I've been a vegan for more than 20 years. Obesity is a complex problem, and I believe that my problem is more an issue of bad genes than bad diet. My diet is 100% vegan and 90% organic.

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» RE: "bad genes" Posted by: bcgirl125
Oh for heaven's sake!
Posted by: PJT on Jun 24, 2009 4:29 AM   
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This tops the list of stupid rants I have seen recently. MacDonalds is in the business of selling three things: grease, sugar and salt. They make a lot of money because there are a lot of morons walking the earth who can't help themselves when confronted with a Belly-Bustin' Hongry Heapin' or whatever the latest delicacy is called. I have not been in MacDonalds in years, I don't miss it, and I could care less about their "nutrition facts", their ingredients or their cooking methods. If people want to kill themselves with that garbage, they are free to do so in my opinion. Likewise, I think if people want to turn their brains to mush drinking alcolol, smoking dope, shooting heroin, or snorting cocaine, I say go ahead. Just be sure to collect taxes on the stuff.

What I DO care about is MacDonalds ethical treatment of animals it kills for the meat and about the work conditions of their employees, many of whom can't get any other job. Those are important things. Trying to turn the sad sacks who waddle into MacDonalds for another fix of trans-fat into victims is a non-starter.

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» This poster is unhinged Posted by: wolfgangmo75
Choice
Posted by: joehillbilly on Jun 24, 2009 5:08 AM   
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So, like, don't eat there. It works for me and mine.

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If you don't like it, don't eat there
Posted by: lorenzodimedici1 on Jun 24, 2009 5:50 AM   
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nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to eat at Mickey D's.

Do you want to force the world to conform to your perfect ideas? Start by dying. Nobody cares what you want because they are too busy with their own lives.

I don't believe in blaming corporations for problems that I can avoid. Why don't you try it?

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McDonald's, please bring back BEEF fat!
Posted by: xvictor on Jun 24, 2009 6:00 AM   
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McDonald french fries used to be the best because they used beef tallow to cook the fries (all natural, of course). Unfortunately, well-intentioned laws banned the use of that fat and had been forced to use other cooking oils, of which they also have been banned.

Being that all McDonald's food is questionable, I don't think the return of beef fat into their cooking vats is going to make a whole lot of difference. Except for the taste.

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» Explain about the mustard, please! Posted by: BlueTigress
The Government is not your mother
Posted by: kad on Jun 24, 2009 6:02 AM   
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It is not the governments job to tell you what or how to eat. We still have a few freedoms left and choosing what to eat is one of them. If you don't like McD's, then don't eat there. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to go thru the drive thru on your way home to spend hours in front of the boob tube. Put on your big girl panties, and take some responsibility for your own actions for a change.

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It isn't exactly a secret
Posted by: rickiey on Jun 24, 2009 6:05 AM   
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Seriously? There is absolutely zero deception with respect to Mcdonalds and healthy eating.

There is NO ONE stupid enough to think that when they are eating at Mcdonald's that they are eating healthy.

For people who eat there everyday, it isn't that they don't know they are being poisoned. It is that they don't CARE.

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The propaganda has paid dividends
Posted by: xvictor on Jun 24, 2009 6:06 AM   
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I haven't seen a McDonald's commercial in years--either in print, internet, or television. yet, they had performed very well in sales and in share prices. This demonstates that the public has been sufficiently programmed so that, without the use of ads, they automatically walk in to a Mac store without even thinking about it.

Those McDonald's folks do propaganda really well. Future dictatorships ought to take lessons from Ronald McDonald.

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» what are you talking about? Posted by: bizeeb
just stay out of there...
Posted by: ellie on Jun 24, 2009 6:07 AM   
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fast food is fast poison... period... and expensive to boot...

just cook at home a little more... think about this... food stamps work in a grocery store and not the fast food joint... the time you spend waiting in line is about the time it takes to cook up a burger at home...

back to coffee...

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Poisoned!?
Posted by: Ayla87 on Jun 24, 2009 6:25 AM   
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I'm sorry, did McDonalds tie you to a chair and shove that triple bacon cheese burger down your throat? No. You bought it with your own money, and you ate it on your own free will.

McDonalds isn't poisoning consumers. Consumers are poisoning themselves.

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» I would rather have the cocaine, thanks. Posted by: countingdaisies
I don't know about other states
Posted by: LeeAnnG on Jun 24, 2009 6:47 AM   
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but in West Virginia schools, nutrition standards are quite strict. Soda machines are allowed on high school campuses, but they are not permitted to be available to students during school hours. (I don't know why they even allow them to be there at all, and they are not in all schools.)

Every school's student handbook (at least in Wood County where I work) has a very long section concerning nutrition standards, and even kid's parties have to comply. No fast food vendors are permitted in the schools , in most schools parents are strongly discouraged from bringing fast foods to their kids at lunch, and in many parents are prohibited from doing so. Wood County schools do not permit candy sales to raise money. In the past couple of years, even the high schools in the county have changed to closed campuses, so all students are required to report to the cafeteria at lunch.

I'm not sure I agree with the closed campus rules for high school students, but it does have the positive effect of denying kids the chance to visit fast food chains during their lunch hour. (About five years ago, several students were killed in a car crash because they wanted to go across town to a Burger King and were driving 80 miles per hour. That was the beginning of the push for closed campuses, and it does keep the kids safe from accidents during the school day. I still don't know if I agree with this, since it was one incident out of thousands of hours of student driving. Schools are already enough like prisons for me to have doubts about yet another restriction.)

It's true that parents have little control over where their kids eat when they are away from home. It's naive to suggest that parents can stop all negative behavior in their children at all times. No matter how vigilant we are about instilling good eating habits, kids will make up their own minds after a certain age.

Is there anyone out there who always obeyed parental wishes, never got into trouble, or never did anything dangerous or foolish? Sometimes when I look back at my youth, I'm amazed that I survived. I'm 62, and I know kids haven't changed all that much.

At any rate, schools can do a great deal to ensure that their students are provided with nutritious meals, that they don't have access to fast food or sodas, and that they understand the difference between food that is good for you and that which is not. I am always surprised when I find that West Virginia's laws concerning nutrition are so strict compared to other places. It's appalling that schools still allow junk food to be sold on their campuses.

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» I agree Posted by: LeeAnnG
» Wow! Posted by: LeeAnnG
Fast food restaurants offer planty of healthy choices...
Posted by: bizeeb on Jun 24, 2009 6:48 AM   
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...the public just don't want them. For decades, fast food restaurants like McD's have offered salads, yet they (McD's) sell approximately 100 Big Mac's for every salad sold. They are not making that choice for people, they are simply giving people what they want.

ANY time spent by governments on this issue, e.g. banning trans fats, is a waste of time/money and beyond the scope of what government should be doing. We've got thousands of things more important than this! Further, the "science" of nutrition is notoriously unstable, with the conventional wisdom shifting constantly.

Consider the big 3: salt, sugar, and caffeine. For decades researchers have tried to link all of these substances with health problems, yet at the end of the day none of these is all that bad for you at all.

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mluckenbach,chicago
Posted by: mcl on Jun 24, 2009 6:58 AM   
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Recent studies/research show that the 'fat, sugar and salt' concentrations found in "fast foods" trigger the same same 'pleasure' centers of the brain as cocaine and create a desire/craving, if not an outright addiction, for these foods.

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» RE: mluckenbach,chicago Posted by: NoKidding
Single Payer
Posted by: johnnydajogger on Jun 24, 2009 7:06 AM   
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"Public Option" still leaves the pernicious health insurance industry in place. If there is one thing we should have learned recently its that the insurance boys are not to be trusted, at all. Single payer would eliminate them from the equation and save many billions of wasted dollars in the process. For example, simply making every eligible for Medicare would be extremely cost effective and immediately effective. Medicare's admin. overheard expense if 3% versus up to 30% with private health insurance. Medicare should also adopt the VA price schedule for drugs which would eliminate the Part D boondoggle of big pharma. We should join all the other industrialized nations in the world and put single payer in place. Costs would be dramatically cut and quality of care would vastly improve.

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This is a McCrock
Posted by: rg on Jun 24, 2009 7:39 AM   
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Even with a tightened budget healthy non-fattening foods can be prepared.
This article is nothing more than America's national sport, the Blame Game.
Reduce your meat consumption and eat more vegetables.
Eat at home.

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» RE: This is a McCrock Posted by: samd11
I love my Big MACS and I say MORE FOOD AND MORE TAX CUTS !
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS on Jun 24, 2009 7:49 AM   
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Who cares what you sorry losers think? If you don't like MCD, then don't go there. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !! LOL !!

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SAME AS THE TOBACCO COMPANY ARGUMENT
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jun 24, 2009 8:01 AM   
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Nobody forces anyone else to smoke, it's a choice. Thanks to the new tobacco laws, we'll learn what's really in the cigaretts. We can make the same thing happen with last food. I wonder why it took so long to realize that this food is not 'real food'. Not only doesn't it have any nutritional value, it's harmful to the people who eat it. Companies making huge profits on their product are not about to blow the whistle on themselves. ANNA

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» Yes, it's a choice Posted by: LeeAnnG
What's a McDonald's? or a KFC? or a Wendy's?
Posted by: oldhippy39 on Jun 24, 2009 8:12 AM   
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I haven't been inside a fast food restaurant for over 2 yrs. I do occasionally visit Arby's
Their roast beef is supposed to be good for you.

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» Arby deli sandwich Posted by: BlueTigress
» Arby's roast beef?!? Posted by: countingdaisies
My longtime friend from grammar school....
Posted by: NoKidding on Jun 24, 2009 8:18 AM   
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is now 45 and obese. She was always chubby growing up and she is adopted so we don't know if her parents had this issue as well. Her adoptive family is trim. The sad thing is, and I hate saying this, but she is not that bright. She barely graduated high school and makes very low wages as a preschool teacher. I know that her doctors are hounding her to lose weight and eat better, yet it's fast food and sweets every day. Her brother has tried to teach her to cook healthy foods to no avail. I think it's important to remember that not everyone has the intelligence or insight to understand that their choices could cost them their life someday. I wish there was something I could do but we've tried talking to her, family interventions, etc.

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tried and true method
Posted by: jstepp590 on Jun 24, 2009 8:24 AM   
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The traditional tried and true method for reforming corporate practices is to tax them more. If we're getting the health bill for their bad practices then they owe us that money. By raising their taxes they have to add that to their cost analysis and make changes to save themselves money.

Of course, getting that through our bought and paid for government has fuck all chance of succeeding. Until we fix our campaign finance system we will never make any worthwhile changes to any part of our system, with our current battle for health care reform a prime example.

Our democracy and government has been hijacked, bought and paid for by the highest bidder. Until we face that fact and deal with it any way we must then we will eventually watch our country be destroyed for the greed of the few.

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Make your own educated decisions
Posted by: Tereska on Jun 24, 2009 8:29 AM   
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How often do corporations and the government do whats best for the people? Focus on educating people of the health dangers involved, and let people make their own decisions. If you rely on corporations to take care of your best interests you will live an unhealthy dumbed down life and I feel very sorry for you! If enough PEOPLE make the choice not to eat there and they see their profits fall, then they will change their menu/ practices and only then.

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Please Don't Eat the Animals
Posted by: vasumurti on Jun 24, 2009 8:29 AM   
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The following quotes, facts, figures, and statistics are excerpted from Please Don't Eat the Animals (2007) by Jennifer Horsman and Jaime Flowers:

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."

---Albert Einstein

"Each year, the meat industrial complex abuses and butchers nearly 9 billion cows, pigs, sheep, turkeys, chickens, and other innocent, feeling animals just for the enjoyment of consumers. Each year, nearly 1.5 million of these consumers are crippled and killed prematurely by heart failure, cancer, stroke, and other chronic diseases that have been linked conclusively with the consumption of these animals. Each year, millions of other animals are abused and sacrificed in a vain search for a 'magic pill' that would vanquish these largely self-inflicted diseases."

---Alex Hershaft, PhD, president, Farm Animal Reform Movement

When analyzing 8,300 deaths in the United States, United Kingdom, and Germany among 76,000 men and women in five different, large studies, researchers concluded that vegetarians have a 24 percent reduction in death from heart disease.

Similarly, in the famous Oxford Vegetarian Study, where 6,000 vegetarians were compared with 5,000 meat-eaters over nearly two decades, scientists found that the rate of death from heart disease was 28 percent lower in vegetarians than in meat-eaters.

One study analyzed eighty scientific studies in leading medical journals. The analysis found that vegetarians had lower blood pressure, and were less likely to suffer from stroke, heart attack, and kidney failure.

A large German study of nearly 2,000 vegetarians found that deaths from heart disease were reduced by over one-third, and that heart disease itself was far less than that of the general population.

Another large study examined the coronary artery disease risk of young adults ages 18 to 30 and vegetarians were found to have much higher levels of cardiovascular fitness and a greatly reduced risk of heart disease.

"The process of gradual blocking of the coronary arteries begins not in adulthood but in childhood...and the main cause of this arteriosclerosis is the steadily increasing amount of fat in the American diet, particularly saturated animal fats such as those found in meat, chicken, milk and cheeses. If there was another disease that caused half a million deaths a year, you can be sure that the public would be acutely aware of the danger, and that the cure or prevention would be universally practiced."

---Dr. Benjamin Spock, author, child expert

"I don't understand why asking people to eat a well-balanced vegetarian diet is considered drastic, while it is medically conservative to cut people open and put them on powerful cholesterol-lowering drugs for the rest of their lives."

---Dr. Dean Ornish, author, Reversing Heart Disease

Stroke is the third leading cause of death behind heart disease and cancer. Vegetarians have a 20 to 30 percent reduced risk of having a stroke. Stroke, like heart disease, is associated with diets high in saturated fats, and the vegetarian diet is naturally low in these fats.

The Oxford Vegetarian Study found cancer mortality to be 39 percent lower among vegetarians when compared with meat-eaters. The European Prospective Investigation of Cancer found vegetarians suffer 40 percent fewer cancers than the general population.

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» RE: Please Don't Eat the Animals Posted by: tony_opmoc
Please Don't Eat the Animals (cont'd)
Posted by: vasumurti on Jun 24, 2009 8:31 AM   
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The following quotes, facts, figures, and statistics are excerpted from Please Don't Eat the Animals (2007) by Jennifer Horsman and Jaime Flowers:

Studies have shown that decreasing a woman's animal fat intake can reduce the chances that she will die from breast cancer. A large-scale, long-term study in the Netherlands found a powerful connection between the amount of animal fat consumed and the rate of prostate cancer. A review of a dozen studies found dietary fat strongly correlated with prostate cancer.

Ovarian, uterine, and endometrial cancers have all been shown to be strongly correlated to the amount of animal fat in one's diet, and vegetarian women have significantly lower rates of these cancers.

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all the natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined."

---Dr. Neal Barnard, Executive Director, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

"Vegetarians have the best diet. They have the lowest rate of coronary disease of any group in the country. They have a fraction of our heart attack rate and they have only 40 percent of our cancer rate."

---William Castelli, MD, Director, Framingham Heart Study

"Human beings are not natural carnivores. When we kill animals to eat them, they end up killing us because their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never intended for human beings, who are natural herbivores."

---Dr. William Roberts, editor-in-chief, American Journal of Cardiology

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» Dr Roberts Posted by: BlueTigress
Puhlease
Posted by: mpreb658@earthlink.net on Jun 24, 2009 8:31 AM   
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You're all missing the greater point. It was explained on a recent episode of NOW. McDonald's demanded chicken and beef that grew bigger and faster, which led to all kinds of unhealthful things fed these animals and to factory farming with its caging of them.

This tainted food got into all markets because the producers couldn't separate what was for this end user and for that one. So unless we raise our own or find a local farmer who lets his animals feed off grass and roam free, we get the same bad ingredients wherever we shop, however we cook.

One of the main culprits is the use of force-fed corn. These animals are vegetarians and grass is their food of choice. So, yes, it is McDonald's, who began this with their need to make Chicken McNuggets; but it has spread to everywhere. At the fast food store or home cooked, we get the same obesity, diabetes, heart disease, although I grant you that some will always escape these dire consequences through their good genes.

And don't forget all the antibiotics given these animals. Is that what you want in your body?

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Got no problem with an occasional Big Mac, even though as an informed consumer...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 24, 2009 8:42 AM   
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...I recognize that it's mostly corn or corn derivatives and soy and soy derivatives in their so-called "burgers".

Then pile on fatty fries and a bathtub sized soda (again, mostly corn product), and it makes for a very occasional, "I'm in the mood" cheap cheap tummy filling treat that's fast and doesn't require any effort.

Making it a habit would undoubtedly be very bad for me; the mind boggles at the number of obese folks or even diabetics who belly up to the trough for their corn and soy feedings.

Moooo?

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How About Some Personal McResponsibility
Posted by: mikeblack on Jun 24, 2009 8:44 AM   
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Putting the environmental arguments aside, I hate it when "progressives" go on the anti-fast food trip. It shoots all kinds of holes in their drug decriminalization arguments. You can't be in favor of freedom of choice for somethings bad for your body but hypocritically think we need to protect people from another.

You can't blame McDonalds or any other fast food chain for an increase of heart attacks, obesity and other ailments brought on by poor nutrition, you have to blame the people who have the horrid diets where they think it's okay to eat deep fried junk every day. It's not like there are no healthy food options in their towns and it's McDonalds or starve to death.

There's nothing wrong with eating deep fried junk occasionally, and common sense tells you that you should only eat foods high in fat on occasions. I'm pretty healthy, I eat well usually, I work out every other day. But sometimes I pop open a bag of Dorritos or hit up Wendy's for lunch. And since I only do it in moderation, both my heart and waistline are not suffering.

And so what if they advertise too heavily to children? Kids are brought there and have their meals paid for by their parents, all they have to say is "No, I'm not buying you a Happy Meal." It's not like Ronald McDonald is shoving the hamburgers in their mouths.

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We need more government regulations
Posted by: dover23 on Jun 24, 2009 9:18 AM   
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to create stricter guidelines on how Ronald McDonald raises our children. We CANNOT trust this evil corporation to monitor themselves on their own regarding this responsibility.

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Goat liver and romaine lettuce for lunch
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Jun 24, 2009 9:39 AM   
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Sure Mickey ds sells crap... but noone has to buy it. Finger pointing is a way to excuse oneself from the responsibilities. Both Mc Ds and the people who blame them have equal responsibility..as well as the people who buy the "food" there. But until people stop going there nothing will change. Get up off the couch eat some vegetables and whole foods and do some exercising...It wont kill ya...
I know a lot of you will give me crap about my name here.. which is fine.. funny part is I am not fat...

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WTF? Did I stumble onto a link to Freeperville?
Posted by: wolfgangmo75 on Jun 24, 2009 9:42 AM   
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Reading many of the responses here it seems that many people seem to think that everyone is responsible for what they eat. OK. Fine.

But let's say that a company, like Coca-Cola starts adding highly addictive and dangerous additives to their product. And additive like cocain (which coke used to have in it). Then doesn't it make sense, if you believe is some kind of rational government regulation for our safety, then shouldn't something be done to protect an innocent public?

Cigarettes are now being looked at by the FDA. And given those bastards history, then it is well past time. And just like with cigs, the food companies are adding things to their fast food that are proven addictive substances.

Let me say this again. The food companies like McDonald's are adding addictive substances to their food. The fact that you as an individual don't become hooked does nothing for those who were more susceptible.

What food companies do with additives is no different that a thug pushing drugs near a school IMHO.

Why are all of you normally sane posters (Honky I can understand - it's his way - the Reagan way) losing your way when it comes to food?

The only diet proven to cause disease is the western diet. The one we came up with in the US and are busy exporting to the world through McD's and monsanto.

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» Addiction versus craving. Posted by: ABetterFuture
Mc Donald and KFC
Posted by: ClaudineMe on Jun 24, 2009 9:54 AM   
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These 2 are particularly bad because their chicken suppliers still tortures the birds. There is no excuse for animal abuse. These 2 corporations must clean up their act and demand ethical changes. Eating cruelty is unacceptable!

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» RE: Mc Donald and KFC Posted by: EdinIowa
McDonald's salads
Posted by: BlueTigress on Jun 24, 2009 10:25 AM   
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are vaguely unsatisfying.

Wendy's and Burger King salads are better. About six or seven years ago, Burger King was testing this sundried tomato/balsamic vinegar dressing that I still miss. Apparently it was not sufficiently popular because they dropped it.

I do not eat creamy dressings. I quit eating those in my late teens.

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» I'll use them as marinades... Posted by: ABetterFuture
Nobody is being forced to eat fast food
Posted by: marinoclone on Jun 24, 2009 10:47 AM   
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If McDonald's were the sole source of food for Americans, this article might be relevant. But McDonald's isn't even the sole source of fast food. Why are Burger King, Taco Bell, KFC and the others being given a pass? Those of us who live in areas of the country where Carl's Jr. is doing business have seen that company brazenly promote gluttony. Which might be relevant if people were being forced to eat at Carl's, Taco Bell, etc.
In reality people have choices; I have personally discovered that Middle Eastern food is much healthier. In fact, most ethnic foods are healthier than the American diet. American fast food is just the tip of the iceberg of the unhealthy American lifestyle. People are so lazy they fight over parking spots to avoid walking an extra 50 feet. The airwaves are full of ads for products that promise people they can lose weight just by taking a pill, with no exercise whatsoever. They sit in front of the damn TV night after night slurping down beers and inhaling Cheetos mesmerized by such crap as "American Idol" and "America's Top Model." God forbid anyone actually would turn off the TV and go for a walk. And every time something goes wrong, such as the obesity epidemic, they always look for a convenient scapegoat on which to place the blame.
Personal responsibility is almost extinct in this country.

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"Market is Never Wrong"
Posted by: Lilly on Jun 24, 2009 11:07 AM   
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I read somewhere that the first thing they teach you when you go to get a Harvard MBA is the phrase "Market is Never Wrong".

So, look at what makes McDonald's attractive to "Market". 1) The food is tasty (as it should be, chemically speaking, if you consider its high content of salt and fat). 2) It is cheap. Every time I walk past a McD's they are offering two of something substantial for $3---two giant hamburgers, two huge breakfast sandwiches full of egg and sausage and cheese. This is belly-filling food for a price you can't meet if you cook it at home. 3) It is everywhere: Americans don't like to wait for what they want---this is Immediate Gratification Country.

Publish all the caveats you want, McDonald's is indestructible. I think that's realistic. I remember the first time we ever heard of McDonald's---this was about 1955. A flyer came in our (Chicago) mail introducing a new-concept restaurant where hamburgers cost 12 cents. My husband was a student and we were very poor: voila, suddenly we could afford to go out to dinner. Years have passed and prices have risen, but I bet that condition still applies.

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Advertising
Posted by: tlCampbell on Jun 24, 2009 11:25 AM   
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The only thing that I am opposed to is the marketing that goes on with fast food companies which is directed at children. Of course I'm against this sort of targeting for a lot of other things when there are kids involved too.

Otherwise, it really is the public's responsibility to abstain from the foods/drugs/etc that can kill you.

An alternative to playing the blame game is to teach people how to feed their families healthy meals on a budget. Most only see the $.99 price tag on a fast food burger and relate that to the cheapest route. If they knew how to shop & prepare food, they'd discover it's cheaper (and healthier) in the long run to make it yourself.

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One thing is clear
Posted by: EdinIowa on Jun 24, 2009 12:30 PM   
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If you go to a small town that doesn't have a fast food joint- McD or whatever - and if that town is fairly isolated from a larger town with its strip malls of fast-food chains, you do not see the obesity that is everywhere apparent in any town of 30 to 40,000+ residents.

And the people are all the better for it.

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» RE: One thing is clear Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: One thing is clear Posted by: EdinIowa
More victims
Posted by: jmooney on Jun 24, 2009 2:34 PM   
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. McDonalds forces the food in our mouths. Can't anyone see that by allowing ourselves to be victimized and blaming others for our inability to control ourselves, we're actually making it hard to actually control ourselves. Like the tobacco companies. I don't recall any tobacco exec forcing a cigarette into my mouth and lighting it. Same with McDonalds. No one is shoving food in my damn mouth. We know eating that stuff ain't good. But we do it. Who's fault is that? I blame me when I do stuff that's bad, not someone else, and it makes it easier for me to stop doing bad stuff. That simple.

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McDonald's
Posted by: ML561 on Jun 24, 2009 3:44 PM   
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I live in Omaha, a city where all kinds of diversified and healthful foods are readily available. In my neighborhood, within an 8 to 10 block radius, there is a Greek restaurant, a Mediterranean restaurant, a vegetarian restaurant, an Indian restaurant, and a Chinese place, as well as a couple of nice pubs that serve old-fashioned American food. There is also a McDonald's, which is always crowded, even on holidays--I find it incredible that anyone would eat McDonald's food on Thanksgiving or Christmas, yet I have seen it happen.

That is simply sad. The last time I ate at McDonald's I had a case of nausea for two days. Not to mention the fact that fast food, in general, is not really less expensive than some of the meals that can be had in the ethnic restaurants, and can even cost more. A meal at the local Chinese place, for example, can cost as little as $5 including the main dish, soup, and an egg roll and beverage. At McDonald's, a burger, fries, and a drink may add up to $7 or more. And it goes without saying that a savvy shopper can put together a better hamburger at home than McDonald's ever could at a fraction of the cost.

Now to my second point: I am not a fan of fast food and prefer to prepare my own. However, I am very uneasy with some of the arguments that are coming forth about how "people need to be responsible for their health", the "obesity epidemic," and the war on smokers. I fear a 1984-style Food Police, a society in which meat is forbidden and smokers are put in re-education camps. And as someone who normally holds liberal views, I cannot understand why people who want the government "Off our bodies" when it comes to reproductive rights or sexual preferences, but want smoking bans and "fat police" everywhere. I don't smoke, but I don't care if other people do. I like my beer, and if people say it is going to kill me I say so what, we are all going to die of something anyway. I like steak but also appreciate the need to go vegetarian now and then. Do we want a society such as Japan, which now weighs and measures its citizens and if they do not conform to certain standards, puts them on a government-mandated diet? OK, I think McDonald's is bad. But I don't have to go there. Conversely, I should not be forced to go to a health food place so that I do not become an undue burden on society because of some illness I may contract. Keep the government off our stomachs is what I say.

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I don't understand . . .
Posted by: neko_sake on Jun 24, 2009 4:02 PM   
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how is it relevant that there are McDonald's within walking distance of schools? When I went to gradeschool and highschool, you were not allowed to leave campus unless your parents picked you up. So how would this matter? And why are we picking on McDonald's? What about Burger King? Their portions are gigantic and they use more artificial ingredients than any restaurant I could think of. There a millions of fast food restaurants everywhere, all denying that their food is a crappy waste of money, and all are claiming to have something healthy on the menu - even though no one orders it. I don't understand how McDonald's is preying on the poor . . . yeah, they have a dollar menu, but it's still cheaper to have a home cooked meal. So it truely is the parents fault. It is the consumers' fault because they know the food is bad, and yet they demand more.

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Why Only McDonalds?
Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 24, 2009 4:31 PM   
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Personally, food wise, McDonalds is pretty much my least favorite fast food place and I don't care for any of it anyway. (And am fat btw)I agree with the post above. Why are the food police obsessed with McDonalds? Is Taco Bell or Burger King any better. At least McDonald's is a U.S. owned company the last time I checked. Burger King was foreign owned. Maybe it is because I live in Chicago and they are based in Oak Brook, but they do sponsor lots of worthy causes here. I don't see nearly as much from other fast food places.

I also wish people would give as much attention to DIETING as a cause of diabetes, weight gain and heart disease. Not only does yo-yo dieting make our bodies better at storing fat, it increases the risk of getting diabetes, heart disease and premature death. Yet Weight Watchers has such credibility employers think onsite WW meetings are a good thing. I so agree with Susie Orbach, former eating disorder therapist to Lady Di who wants to start a class action lawsuit against Weight Watchers.

Furthermore, the rates of obesity and diabetes have "skyrocketed" in part because Pharma lowered acceptable weight and blood sugar to sell more pills. Since our economy has tanked, people have lost their pensions, and social security is at risk, maybe we had better obsess on what to do with too many old people without financial support rather than making sure everyone lives to a ripe old age in poverty.

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Anthony D'Auria
Posted by: Tony D on Jun 24, 2009 5:00 PM   
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But the American public is increasingly seeing through the antics. In a recent Corporate Accountability International poll conducted by Lake Research partners 57 percent of Americans said they believe the fast food industry was, “responsible…for the increase in diet-related diseases and health conditions.” This is a three-fold increase over a similar Gallup poll conducted in 2003.

I'm sorry, but when I read a poll like this I have to think that the public is easily being swayed by the media. First of all, obesity, diabetes and heart disease have as yet no proven causative agent associated with them. Does eating at McDonald's a causative factor? When doing causation studies it is important to remember that the fact that one characteristic correlates with another does not have a high predictive value. A good example would be a correlation study on the eating of potatoes and heart attacks. We have lots of heart attacks and Americans eat a lot of potatoes so when you do a correlative study of these entities you will find that there is a place in your curve where potatoes seem to correlate with a higher incidence of heart attacks. Would you accept this as scientific evidence for potatoes causing heart attacks? No good scientist would. You will find that when the true causes of obesity, diabetes and heart disease are discovered you will never talk badly about McDonald's again.

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» RE: Anthony D'Auria Posted by: phatkhat
Oh, c'mon!!!
Posted by: leafmen on Jun 24, 2009 6:50 PM   
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Everyone here on Alternet KNOWS that it's Obama's fault that McDonald's is poisoning America!

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» RE: Oh, c'mon!!! Posted by: PaulD
Blame Them
Posted by: JudoChopJosh on Jun 24, 2009 7:47 PM   
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It's McDonalds fault we ate fast food, the Terrorists fault we at war in Afghanistan and Bush's fault we torture and continue to occupy Iraq.

Nevermind that our fat asses eat at McDonalds, we voted for Barack Obama who explicitly stated he would escalate the War in Afghanistan and no one did a thing when Bush and co. destroyed America.

Blame Yourselves.

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Personal Responsibility
Posted by: eviltwit on Jun 25, 2009 3:07 AM   
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No one thinks McDonalds is good for them or their families anymore - or ever, likely. It's as simple as refusing to go to McDonalds or to take your kids there. I go maybe three times a year, when I really want a cheeseburger. That's enough for me.

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Why Does Responsibility Only Go One Way?
Posted by: Jim Shaw on Jun 25, 2009 10:53 AM   
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How convenient that so many have bought into the "personal responsibility" argument favored by the corporate right.

I don't see why McD can't pay some of the social costs their products impose on the public. They're hardly blameless.

They're not just giving people what they want, they're marketing the crap out this garbage to pump up demand. They've also got food technologists working overtime to make sure the stuff is as addictive as possible.

A lot of the people who eat this crap are strapped for time and have low incomes. It's very difficult for them to afford or find time to prepare nutritious meals. When they go to the supermarket, they find that junky processed foods laden with subsidized corn and soy derivatives are much cheaper than fresh produce. It's less expensive and all too convenient for low income people to eat junk food.

Why do individual consumers have to take so much responsibility for their actions but not greedy corporations that get rich passing costs on to the rest of society?

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» Here's why Posted by: PaulD
McDonald's & Ethics
Posted by: pfm on Jun 25, 2009 11:33 AM   
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I confess it is most tempting to paint McDonald's as well as their corporate compadres Burger King, Arbys, etc as "evil" but is that necessarily true..? They are actually creatures of our creation catering to our need for speed and the mistaken belief eating this "fast food" buys us more time..? Being creative in their own right these fast food merchants found ways to cater to our desire for that which "taste's good" while having no redeeming nutritional value. What we created can be sent with equal passion and speed into oblivion as we are the creators of the reality in which we live. But to bring about any such change we need to take individual control, accountability and responsibility for all of our actions.

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» Negative effects Posted by: PaulD
Don't just blame McDonald's and fast food
Posted by: harpy on Jun 25, 2009 12:11 PM   
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They didn't drag anybody in to eat. We do have a choice of what we put in our mouths, except when it comes to the public water system. Don't drink water with fluoride in it, it's poison! Fluoride in the water causes hypothyroidism, and does not reduce cavities, despite the rhetoric. Hypothyroidism will make you get fat real fast. The fluoride in the water is a real convenient way for the aluminum industry and the fertilizer industry to get rid of their poisonous waste products, with municipalities paying to take it off their hands. Just google fluoride problems or poisoning, and you'll find out that it's more than hamburgers that are killing you.

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Conspiratorial
Posted by: YogiBear on Jun 26, 2009 1:09 AM   
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I've developed a simple test to tell if fast fooderies are engaging in a conspiracy to fatten americans. When you go in to eat, check the straw size. If it's a fat straw, designed to make you drink your soda faster, therby allowing you far more refills at an apparent loss to the company, they're out to get you. Why else would they use that straw unless they see a alrger gain by having people get used to mass consumption? It's insidious. But certainly not illegal.

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It's called natural selection
Posted by: jcalhoun on Jun 26, 2009 6:48 AM   
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let them eat whatever they want!!

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» RE: It's called natural selection Posted by: Squarehead
didn't like having mcd.'s across street from school.
Posted by: re:mcd.'s on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 AM   
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Last year, 2007-08, my kids went to a different school as this year, and there was a mcdonald's across the street. It was VERY ANNOYING, that my son knew his friend's would go there almost every day after school and when I picked him up, i am serious, he would ask me usually, "mom, mom, let's go to mcdonald's!". The mistake i made was these mom's invited me to take my kids there with their kids one day after school and it was ridiculous and cost me $10.00. no i'm not kidding, it was that expensive. and then i took them after that a few more times through the drivethrough. then they kept asking for it. It is SO OBNOXIOUS, that they purposely built it across the street from a new school. They know what they are doing, and mcdonald's does it on purpose. Very sneaky marketing strategy. It's much easier on me as a parent leaving the school parking lot to have them in a school in a residential area now, where they do not see that right across the street first thing when they are antsy and hungry.

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We should be THANKING mcdonalds!
Posted by: xmvince on Jun 26, 2009 1:40 PM   
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McDonalds will help filter out who's smart and who's stupid. Obviously, the dumb broke people will go to McDonalds and fatten themselves up for an early 40's heart attack. Perfect for population control!

Sorry if some people find this post offensive, but the population is out of control and anything that will help keep the numbers down IMO is a good thing.

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Do the Math
Posted by: Spot28 on Jun 26, 2009 6:52 PM   
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The average American ate 80 meals at restaurants during 2005, according to the Institute of Food Technologists. Even if ALL those dining occasions were at McDonald's what "share of the blame" would it have to take for Americans' obesity? Teeny-tiny or just tiny? Your logic is flabbier than Americans' guts. McD's is an easy target for lazy intellects.

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» RE: Do the Math Posted by: Squarehead
hi
Posted by: symonds88 on Jun 27, 2009 6:25 AM   
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Hi friends.

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erade
Posted by: erader on Jun 28, 2009 2:49 PM   
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a lot of things in life CHOICES. people who eat at mc donalds, or any other fast food restaurant do it of their own free choice. if they want to ruin their health, it's their own choice.

under certain circumstances , we will eat at a fast food place. i usually have a broiled chicken or a grilled fish,sandwich with no mayo, or a salad with light dressing.

no amount of cajoling, warning, what ever, will disuade my husband from ordering a large malt and large fries with his burger. if he hears me tell the clerk, make that a small fries or no mayo please, he is quick to correct me, he want's his mayo.

we need to quit policing other people's affairs and get on with life.

btw, don't know where you live, but at all the fast food places i've been to, in the last year or so, the calorie count HAS BEEN posted, just not over the menu which is probably where it should be.

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Hi Fructose Corn Syrup
Posted by: Steppin Razor on Jun 29, 2009 4:33 PM   
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I wish someone would address the hi fructose corn syrup in ALL our softdrinks which is not a food and IMO the cause of the odesity epidemic that we all talk about.

Beef, Sugar, and Salt are foods and have been around for centuries but the obesity we see now is something I have never seen before.

As a Truck driver I have seen soft drink drinking drivers literally looking like walking death drinking the hi fructose corn syrup laced soft drinks. Maybe ADM pays bloggers to ignore their poisonous product. OR?

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