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Some of Us Still Think They Can Get Rich Quick from the Real Estate Bubble

By Joseph Huff-Hannon, New York Press. Posted May 2, 2009.


A visit to a packed real estate seminar on how to "get paid to buy a house" reveals that the bubble mindset still hasn't popped.
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My path to real estate riches began on the New York subway, when I grabbed a copy of a free daily rag one morning to read on the way to work. On the same day that Bernie Madoff pled guilty to the biggest investment fraud in Wall Street history, I was intrigued to find a full-page ad with the blaring headline:

"HOW TO GET YOUR SHARE OF TODAY'S TRILLION DOLLAR RECOVERY."

Besides details on a series of free, upcoming workshops where all would be revealed, the ad offered a mouthwatering menu of claims on "How to cash in on the biggest real estate liquidation sale in our entire United States history" and "how to maximize your profit with lucrative foreclosures." Even better was the claim that, "You can buy homes with little or no money coming out of your pocket. That's right: GET PAID TO BUY A HOUSE." There's even a quote from CNBC's embattled maharishi of mammon, James Cramer, citing the "precise date" that the housing market will turn around. If you care to mark your calendar, it's June 30, 2009; though given some of Cramer's other predictions of late, you might want to hedge your bets. Sold!

So, on a recent Monday afternoon, I went to the Roosevelt Hotel, a stately and well-appointed place just west of Grand Central where only the most respectable types might gather. Eighty or so of us took our seats in front of a large movie screen in an opulent banquet hall, as what sounded suspiciously like the theme music from Baywatch was piped in from speakers.

"You are all in for a real treat this afternoon," said Terry, the tall gentleman in a crisp blue polo shirt who took our registrations at the front table. He then handed over our nametags with our first name printed in big bold writing. As the lights were dimmed and the promotional film for the Robert Allen Institute's "Recovery Riches" program is queued, I was transported back to an era I naively assumed no longer existed when Flip This House was one of the most top-rated TV shows on cable and the phrase "no money down" was printed on many a mortgage brokers' calling card.

Not so. The video that segues in to the free two-hour "Creating Wealth with Real Estate" workshop is full of smiling people who presumably haven't read the news lately, as they tell us rubes in the audience things like: "No money down is possible, I've seen it!" and "Turn properties over to investors for quick cash!" Testimonials are given by people who claim to have made tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in a matter of months in real estate, thanks to the advice and guidance of one Robert G. Allen, author of such books as The One Minute Millionaire, Nothing Down and Creating Wealth. A voiceover tells us that we too can be part of this talented class of real estate gurus, as images of a young woman riding a horse, a couple relaxing with glasses of wine in hand and a family walking along the beach flow across the screen. The video ends with a rousing tune and a challenge to: "Be Robert Allen's next millionaire!"

In a country where over 6,000 homes now enter foreclosure every day, and where millions of people's retirement income has been wiped out thanks to a financial house of cards built on dubious home loans, I found it curious that the best advice about how to cash in on the collapse of the real estate market might be found in a newspaper ad or on late-night TV. So did a lot of other people it turns out. The workshop was packed, and based on my conversations with many of the other attendees -- mostly middle-aged men and women, the majority of whom appeared to be immigrant New Yorkers -- the dream of quick money through real estate still appears to be a component of our hardwiring that is difficult to turn off.

As the economic crisis plunges more people in to unemployment, crushes investments and leaves more Americans homeless or dangerously close to it, it's not surprising then that these kinds of pie-in-the-sky, get-rich-quick schemes are coming out of the woodwork -- reminiscent of the army of snake oil salesmen that proliferated during the Great Depression. Then, as now, an expanding pool of desperate people searched for cures, hope and salvation. And in New York City, where real estate and God vie for supremacy, this kind of pitch is especially seductive. The remarkable thing is that with only a few minor tweaks, this "real estate riches" pitch is seamlessly adapted to our new, post-subprime-lending implosion era with relative ease.

Missed your opportunity to cash in on the housing bubble? Never fear, the Robert Allen Institute and its frontmen who roam the land will teach you how to find the silver lining in the real estate rubble all around us.


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Disappointed, but hardly surprised
Posted by: SalB on May 2, 2009 1:30 AM   
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Scams, as the article says, proliferate in a depression, but this scam is what caused the depression in the first place. We had decades of cuts to education to balance budgets and Soap Operas, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, and Real Housewives of Orange County brought opulence into our living rooms, making our own modest, but sustainable lives look sad. The result is a country full of below average people that want to be in the top 1% and think they will make it. If Nicole Ritche can have real diamonds all over her cell phone, why the hell can't we?

This happened at the same time that unskilled labor was valued less and less. The line was that those laborers were supposed to improve too, but, big surprise, they didn't. Not everybody gets to go to college, not everybody wants to go to college, not everybody needs to go to college. In the constant drive to make everything better and more efficient, we've forgotten that everyone needs an income to survive, so those people turned to get rich quick scams that worked for a while, until they drove the economy into the shitter.

There are lots of factors to this that I tried to touch on - poor public education, fewer viable options for a middle class income, the glorification of unfettered avarice, and a general ignorance of the facts - and here is another: poor management of overpopulation. Deregulation, a disregarded social safety net, I could go on. I feel bad for the people taken in by such scams, but in light of the crapfest that is the modern economy, I can hardly blame them.

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» Disappointed Posted by: kepstein7777
» For god's sake give it up Posted by: Livemike
» RE: For god's sake give it up Posted by: RevinFreddy
What is this, hypocrites 'r us?
Posted by: teel on May 2, 2009 3:17 AM   
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Building wealth by capitalizing on others is the very definition of the American dream.

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» almost Posted by: Cory.Goodman
Get Rich Quick
Posted by: kepstein7777 on May 2, 2009 3:35 AM   
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This is one reason why our economy is a series of bubbles, rather than an efficiently-running market system driven by the rational decisions of resource consumers, as our Economics 101 instructors would have us believe.

What sucks is that those of us who know better are subsidizing the idiots who show up to these things, and thus the people who run these things. So the only economically rational decision is to be a snake oil salesman.

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» RE: Get Rich Quick Posted by: RevinFreddy
Raise taxes on short term property gains
Posted by: LeonBNJ on May 2, 2009 4:05 AM   
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Perhaps what should be considered is to increase considerably the short term capital gains tax, especially on real property. We need to discourage 'flipping' of and massive profiteering as to property. We also need to have the Justice Dept. and FTC go after these scammers.

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» Excellent idea Posted by: westomoon
No Comments asking "Why is this Legal?"
Posted by: ADNK on May 2, 2009 4:17 AM   
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This kind of scam is so old and so predictable, I have to ask. How do they get away with it? What kind of "spirit" vs "letter" of the law kind of legerdemain is being put into play here?

When we let developers and The Chamber of Commerce write the laws, protection for the desperate and gullible goes right out the window. They sure could use some of that "Big Government" we hear so much about.

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» in this world... Posted by: Cory.Goodman
» RE: in this world... Posted by: alexandra_hamilton
» RE: in this world... Posted by: bouyant
These typese of scams have been around for a long time
Posted by: drfun on May 2, 2009 6:25 AM   
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Does anyone remember the "Lifespring" What You Pretending Not to Know mantra? Where these clowns had ever more expensive peer-pressure meetings after work till late at night?

This ended a relationship for me and put my former "Friend" into deep debt with her parents, but the networking of fellow "Lifespring Partners" I'm sure assisted in managing her arrears.

What these seminars do is prey on weak minded get-rich-quick with little effort or money down losers.

I knew a family whose father was one of these and the constant moving from one place to the next to stay one step ahead of the creditors caused much agony.

They are nothing but thieves of organized and legal syndicates, which should not be allowed to operate, but these fools would just take their money to another charlatan to be scammed.

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Not being greedy and materialistic is what helped me make through the otherwise hellish montly bills
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on May 2, 2009 7:14 AM   
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Unless I really see the need to move out such as getting married or setting up a home office in the event that I choose to telework or have to, I'm happy with my condo even if I can't grow a real veggie garden or use solar panels. It would indeed be nice if people would learn to make the best and most of their homes. And if you're renting, make sure your landlords are actually responsible.

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The Dream of Immigrants is to Live the American Dream
Posted by: edgar_michel on May 2, 2009 7:42 AM   
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With the international Pentecostal movement raging in Latin America and Africa there is a compelling desire of both the faithful and their churches to see the congregation become rich in the United States so they can write home to confirm the blessings the church has bestowed on them.

When Americans, who have family lineages going back many generations in the United States, have become sickened by the capitalist agenda to create a true aristocracy based on wealth, as was declared by the father of capitalism, Mayer Amschel Bauer in 1773, the immigrants are there at the ready to fill the ranks left vacant by those disaffected. So rather than these scam operations collapsing like they should they are reinvigorated by the immigrant population who come to America with the idea that they too will become rich, I know I have talked to people here who have told me that this is the belief in their country. You have to understand, these immigrants have risked everything to come to America and have no easy way of returning to their country, so thy kind of get locked in.

The dream of coming to America and becoming rich is what motivates people from not only poor Latin America but also poor Africa as well. These people are smart and willing to do whatever it takes to become rich with the added advantage that they view those loosing their houses as having been rich far too long.

I live in a household that is Pentecostal and Peruvian and living here I am also introduced to a whole community of Peruvian people all working together to support each other’s dream of becoming rich Peruvians. And guess what their occupation is, that's right Real Estate. Through Real Estate they can in one generation become the Maestros. And the common persuasion among them is not a relish for democracy and republic or equal opportunity for all, but rather a relish for capitalism as if capitalism is a way of governing ourselves and not just an exploitive economic system.

So as disaffected Americans turn away from the scams of the past, these industries have willing and ready replacements from the third world to fill the chairs left by those disaffected. And while those ancestral Americans are working to change the system to be more relevant to the life of the land, the immigrants help those dysfunctional industries enjoy a longevity they wouldn't have enjoyed otherwise.

And what did the bailout really do. They have further empowered the very scam artists who created the bubbles in the first place. Particularly the bailouts allowed this scam artist Peruvian who I live with to have a fresh breath of air. Just as I was getting him to realize that we need to build real value in this country in order that there be real wealth to share among us all, his real estate life suddenly came back to life and he could trounce on my head again.

So good going America, you gave these con artists and liars the weapons they need to silence you, two trillion dollars worth. This guy I live with has no real intention of helping to build a stronger America. When he gets enough money he is going back to Peru and start a Calvary Chapel type church where he can be a big man and grow is stomach even larger than it already is.

Mind you I have no problem with immigration, but when immigration is used by large institutions to dilute movements that attempt to build back real value and rational policy in this country, then I have a serious problem with it. Immigration needs to be investigated, because it seems that the mega international churches are able to place their people with impunity as though the borders of the United States never existed.

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» Capitalism and Christianity Kill Posted by: NYmediator
That's how it has always worked
Posted by: alexandra_hamilton on May 2, 2009 7:44 AM   
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Just a few years ago, it was your broker or your lender who used the exact same sales pitch to get you into debt. His goal was to make hefty commissions and fees that made him the one of the real winners in this game.
Gripshover, if that's his real name, has probably worked in banking or maybe real estate before being laid-off. He is using the exact same tactics that were used before.
This setup, however, has me a bit more worried. There are obviously loan-sharks in the background willing to 'finance' your deals, but where is this money coming from? One might suspect that some money laundering is going on here as well.

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"Some of us still think they..."? "arrgh" said the grammar pirate
Posted by: peterv on May 2, 2009 8:59 AM   
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Mixing apples and oranges: "Us" and "we" would be the apples, "them" and "they" the oranges.
Otherwise, a worthwhile article.

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We are indeed a nation of day dreamers
Posted by: chariotdrvr14 on May 2, 2009 10:04 AM   
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I blame all those lameass infomercials of the late 1980's...like the one that featured Tom Vu. Always pushing the image of himself cruising around on his(?) yacht, surrounded by a bevy of buxom blonde babes sipping champaigne(?). All the while explaining his almost pyramid-like scheme for accumulating wealth through the buying of multiple parcels of real estate basing the loans on the mortgages created by other parcels of real estate (that weren't yet paid for)
Sadly, somehow my mom caught that strain of Swine flu to pursue a career as a realtor. Which didn't really lead her on a path to riches her as I recall.
Anyway, I was so annoyed with those land scam commercials that I penned a line in a song I wrote back then titled 'Like Hell'

"I can feel it in my bones,
from the center of my soul,
the other world at the top,
is being watched from the streets below,

...your shows on getting rich,
are aimed at the precious few,
there's only so much real estate,
and that's the one scam we'll never get to do"


I'll spare you the chorus, but you get the picture.

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Oh please. There are always a few more suckers left with some money to lose.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on May 2, 2009 10:13 AM   
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Yes, the well of folks who demanded no-money down, balloon notes at adjustable interest rates for 50-100% overpriced houses has largely dried up. In collusion with the banks, they sent shockwaves of turmoil through the economy, principally among folks who hadn't done enough research before buying/investing/selling houses or so-called "securities".

Still, plenty of people since the little bust have died, leaving money to many gullible fools. Those who didn't get into the overpriced market with the Jones' are feeling smug enough about their hesitation that "their reward" ought to be about now. Many other folks may have tapped into savings, etc. I can't help but feel positive about the fact that even fools are rich enough to still spend, poorly.

You can't really blame a company for wanting to make money off of suckers. It's an American tradition for the otherwise-hardly-employable, or low-skill, high "flair" individuals, like our past couple of presidents.

Along the same vein, I'd warn you all to watch out for folks selling $4,000 dollar super vacuum cleaners, Polex watches, the Tony Little gazelle fitness machine, foreign wars of aggression, and trillion dollar tarps, and buying toxic flakes cereal, oops, I mean "assets" with OUR money...

...but that wouldn't do any good, either. Playing Americans for suckers is big business.

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» I do blame them Posted by: NYmediator
Oh please. There are always a few more suckers left with some money to lose.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on May 2, 2009 10:13 AM   
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Yes, the well of folks who demanded no-money down, balloon notes at adjustable interest rates for 50-100% overpriced houses has largely dried up. In collusion with the banks, they sent shockwaves of turmoil through the economy, principally among folks who hadn't done enough research before buying/investing/selling houses or so-called "securities".

Still, plenty of people since the little bust have died, leaving money to many gullible fools. Those who didn't get into the overpriced market with the Jones' are feeling smug enough about their hesitation that "their reward" ought to be about now. Many other folks may have tapped into savings, etc. I can't help but feel positive about the fact that even fools are rich enough to still spend, poorly.

You can't really blame a company for wanting to make money off of suckers. It's an American tradition for the otherwise-hardly-employable, or low-skill, high "flair" individuals, like our past couple of presidents.

Along the same vein, I'd warn you all to watch out for folks selling $4,000 dollar super vacuum cleaners, Polex watches, the Tony Little gazelle fitness machine, foreign wars of aggression, and trillion dollar tarps, and buying toxic flakes cereal, oops, I mean "assets" with OUR money...

...but that wouldn't do any good, either. Playing Americans for suckers is big business.

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A fool and his money
Posted by: willymack on May 2, 2009 10:33 AM   
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Are soon parted. So goes the saying. My question here is how many of us STIL have money to part with?

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Never any gay couples...
Posted by: HoboHomo on May 2, 2009 1:45 PM   
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in these get-rich-quick-real-estate testimonials. Don't we queers deserve the same opportunities to be ripped off as breeders? What every happened to "equal opportunity disembowlers"?

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ONCE UPON A TIME THERE WAS ANOTHER SAVINGS & LOAN MESS
Posted by: joeocho88 on May 2, 2009 1:46 PM   
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The Savings and Loan industry had been experiencing major problems through the late 60s and 70s due to rising inflation and rising interest rates. Because of this there was a move in the 1970s to replace the role of S&L institutions with banks.

In the early 1980s,regulatory changes took place that gave the S&L industry new powers and for the first time in history measures were taken to increase the profitability of S&Ls at the expense of promoting home ownership.

What is important to note about the S&L scandal is that it was the largest theft in the history of the world AT THAT TIME and US tax payers were robbed.

The problems occurred in the Savings and Loan industry as they relate to theft because the industry was deregulated under the Reagan/Bush administration and restrictions were eased on the industry so much that abuse and misuse of funds became easy, rampant, and went unchecked.

There are several ways in which the Bush family plays into the Savings and Loan scandal, which involves not only many members of the Bush family but also many other politicians that are still in office part of the Bush Jr. administration. Jeb Bush, George Bush Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars (note that this is about one quarter of our national debt).

Between 1981 and 1989, when George Bush finally announced that there was a Savings and Loan Crisis to the world, the Reagan/Bush administration worked to cover up Savings and Loan problems by reducing the number and depth of examinations required of S&Ls as well as attacking political opponents who were sounding early alarms about the S&L industry. Industry insiders were aware of significant S&L problems as early 1986 that they felt would require a bailout. This information was kept from the media until after Bush had won the 1988 elections.

Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million loan from Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, Florida. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000, which Bush and his partners paid. The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars.

Neil Bush was the most widely targeted member of the Bush family by the press in the S&L scandal. Neil became director of Silverado Savings and Loan at the age of 30 in 1985. Three years later the institution was belly up at a cost of $1.6 billion to tax payers to bail out.

Neil received a $100,000 "loan" from Ken Good, of Good International, with no obligation to pay any of the money back.

Good was a large shareholder in JNB Explorations, Neil Bush's oil-exploration company.

Neil failed to disclose this conflict-of-interest when loans were given to Good from Silverado, because the money was to be used in joint venture with his own JNB. This was in essence giving himself a loan from Silverado through a third party.

Neil then helped Silverado S&L approve Good International for a $900,000 line of credit.

Good defaulted on a total $32 million in loans from Silverado.

During this time Neil Bush did not disclose that $3 million of the $32 million that Good was defaulting on was actually for investment in JNB, his own company.

Good subsequently raised Bush's JNB salary from $75,000 to $125,000 and granted him a $22,500 bonus.

Neil Bush maintained that he did not see how this constituted a conflict of interest.

Neil approved $106 million in Silverado loans to another JNB investor, Bill Walters.

Neil also never formally disclosed his relationship with Walters and Walters also defaulted on his loans, all $106 million of them.

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The Real Truth - by a Realtor in Houston
Posted by: cheryljohns on May 2, 2009 2:24 PM   
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My partner and I teach a authentic real state investment class in Houston - and we spend half the time de-bunking these seminars. There is always at least one person at every seminar that spouts off this garbage as if it were true. I used to be gentle - but now I am to the point of just telling them they were scammed, they blew the money and to please shut up. In a real situation - you have to have cash or good credit. You CAN do hard money - but only if you are getting it very cheap, repairs aren't bad, and it is in a quick-moving subdivision. Even so, you will only make about $12,000 - $15,000 - not $40,000 plus. In this environment, it's better to get a normal loan (you have to have good credit and put at least 10% down) put a tenant in for a year or two until the market gets better. You will only make about $300 or so a month passive income until then - but you are really waiting for the re-sale LATER. Later may be two years here. The Robert Allen bunch should go to jail. Believer it or not, there are more expensive ones out there. One woman spent over $40,000 for one.

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THE AUDIENCE WAS FILLED WITH' IMMIGRANT TYPES'
Posted by: gellero1 on May 2, 2009 5:37 PM   
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Does the author actually mean people who came here legally, have stable families they support with hard labor? Provide convenience stores in black neighborhoods where people like the author would never dream of setting foot in? Save their money for emergencies? Provide for their futures themselves?

"THOSE" people? ..........getting 'rich' with a couple of forclosure firesales they actually have to WORK to maintain? That's rich?? By whose definition?

How about some FACTS..........indeed the seminars may be overpriced bullshit............libraries are free. Caveat Emptor.

I live mostly in one of the largest forclosure counties in the nation....Lee County Florida ( ironically my other abode is one of the richest...Aspen ). I know people who DO buy forclosed properties. They make a living, or some extra pocket change if they do it on the side. Hardly rich.

THEY PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT SAVES NEIGHBORHOODS. Want to see a slum created? Leave the houses empty, and see what happens.
That's what the US GOVERNMENT DID TO DETROIT in the early '70's with the HUD housing scam. The author has no clue.....probably wasn't even born. A government created mess. History repeats itself.

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» Go to hell liar Posted by: NYmediator
» Lies? Moi? Posted by: gellero1
» You're lost sir. Posted by: Benn_Miller
True Story.
Posted by: undead on May 2, 2009 9:42 PM   
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I had a friend, Mike, who bought a house to flip; could not sell it; burnt it down for the insurance; got caught and spend two years in jail.

Some people are just too stupid and greedy.

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» Screw you Posted by: NYmediator
Great Awakening
Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on May 3, 2009 12:00 AM   
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Some people still believe that when they watch the news it's telling them the truth.

Some people still believe that representative democracy isn't a closed, rigged system that benefits the few at the expense of the many.

Some people still believe in the Tooth Fairy.


FREE AMERICA

VOCA, NOW !!

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» The Rule of the Hoi Poloi Posted by: gellero1
The job layoffs and outsourcing have a lot to do with this desperate money making scheme.
Posted by: John More on May 3, 2009 4:48 AM   
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I've literally seen neighbors of mine desperately resort to such tactics when they were unable to find good paying jobs. For the last 20 years, good jobs have disappeared and those who were able to find jobs have been forced to settle for lower paying jobs. Now, add the rising costs of living and what's to stop these people from resorting to such desperate tactics?

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» It's already here stupid. Posted by: Benn_Miller
And right on this very page
Posted by: NYmediator on May 3, 2009 6:05 AM   
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Is that insufferable "rich jerk" ad - the one that has "I'm better than you."

This is the poison that rots American society from the inside - the belief (often reinforced by Christianity) that wealth is a sign of 'god's' favor. No greater evil has ever been perpetrated on the human race by the marriage of capitalism and christianity.

Throw these scammer in prison? In the system were the criminals can buy Congress and write complex laws that protect them and insulate them from the human misery they cause, that's not likely.

What I'd like to see are the people scammed pay a little visit to the mansions of these people some evening. I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

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Envy !!
Posted by: gellero1 on May 3, 2009 7:35 AM   
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did the people who brought you microsoft, cisco, sunsystems, apple, & your cell phone 'scam' you?

Jealous, envy.

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A Nation of Vultures and Lambs
Posted by: Zeugitai on May 8, 2009 5:08 PM   
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. . .and if you're a lamb, good luck not getting your bones picked clean.

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BA
Posted by: mnstra on May 10, 2009 5:42 PM   
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just remember if you are talking on a cell phone while driving making real estate deals, and you have an accident. It is your problem. The phone companies make all that money on your jabbering on a Cell phone even if it cost you your life. Not their concern They will not be held accountable for your demise even though they profit from your cell phone use .You become a sucker another statistic another fool for both the real estate and the telecommunications industries ripoff.

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