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Obama's Economic Plan: A Version of the Monopoly Game, But No One Loses

By William Greider, The Nation. Posted March 28, 2009.


It's very much like the regular Monopoly game -- only better -- because this one uses real money, provided courtesy of the taxpayers.
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President Obama has invented a new board game for Wall Street money guys to play that promises to be a lot of fun. It's very much like the regular Monopoly game that kids play -- only better -- because this one uses real money, provided courtesy of the taxpayers. The best thing about Obama's game is nobody loses. Usually, the winner in Monopoly is the one who winds up with the most money. In the Obama version, the losers get any losses back from the government at the end of the game. The president has promised.

The guy is a genius. He located these two whiz kids -- Tim and Larry -- who are smarter than God about financial matters. President Obama commanded the advisors to solve the financial mess, raise the zombie banks from the dead and start the good times rolling again. This game is what they came up with. It's a very complicated game and not everyone can understand it. But the Wall Street titans smell hope. For this Monopoly set has no "Go to Jail" card in the deck.

It starts just like the real Monopoly game. The president hands out tall stacks of cash to all the players -- hedge funds, insurance companies, big-time investors, any well-heeled capitalist with a serious taste for acquiring greater wealth. The players then roll the dice and move their little titan icons around the Monopoly board. They can buy up properties wherever they land, sort of like landing on Boardwalk and Park Place. Only in this case the properties are the nearly worthless financial assets held by the country's leading banks, like the mortgage-backed securities now known as "toxic assets."

The banks are glad to be rid of their rotten stuff and will begin to feel better about lending again to commoners. The titans accumulate a stack of property cards and sell them off to other players at extraordinary profits. At least this is what Tim Geithner and Larry Summers told the president to expect and he believed them. Before you know it, everyone will start feeling better about themselves. The once worthless financial paper that no one would buy will begin glowing with rising value. Now wealthier titans and much relieved bankers will buy more cars and houses, hire more gardeners. More jobs, more hope, everything starts rolling toward national recovery. Everyone is a winner, even the losers.

Only adults are allowed to play this game. It is much too complicated for ordinary citizens so sophisticated financiers are needed to do such tricky deals. But Americans at large can have fun watching the action and rooting for various participants. The contest will be a welcome distraction from other anxieties. Who is going to accumulate the tallest stack? It's like Monopoly Olympics for the grand masters of the universe. Will Warren Buffett take a seat at the table? Bill Gross, the PIMCO bond king, is salivating at the prospect of double-digit returns and says Obama's game is "win-win-win." Can billionaire George Soros resist such an opportunity? Will legendary traders at Goldman Sachs square off against James A. Baker III's Carlyle Group with its oil-rich Arab backers? What a kick that these famous people will be playing with our money.

But, remember, this is not about a few shrewd players accumulating more wealth. It's about saving the country. Everybody will want to do their part. Obama has shown them the way.

Probably there are some naysayers in the public who won't get it. They will whine about the odd ways in which winners always seem to get another chance in US capitalism to win again. Some people will look around them and complain that things do not seem to be improving in their neighborhood. They will attack our president personally, try to undermine his authority.

President Obama can charm them out of their anger. He might say, "Hey, guys, lighten up. It's only a game."


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William Greider is the author of, most recently, "The Soul of Capitalism" (Simon & Schuster).

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It's So Bad, So Sickening ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 28, 2009 12:19 AM   
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William Greider has resorted to parody.

Barf bags are flying off the shelves all over the country. People are actually getting angry enough to call and email Congress.

It's Only a Game! They win, you pay, they lose you pay ... What could be fairer?

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Laughing & Gallows Humor on 60 Minutes
Posted by: bessie on Mar 28, 2009 1:11 AM   
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I wasn't watching completely but when President Obama started laughing about our economic choices and later explained that it was some sort of 'gallows humor', I was really disturbed. I'm not seeing anything funny about what is going on in my neighborhood, my community, or my state. President Obama is young, I know this, so then I think he might be swept away with his popularity etc. ( I can't pretend to even begin to know what that might do to your perspective about life.) But that's not my problem, meanwhile, the market is quite scary. There are few jobs which pay any kind of living wage, people are getting laid off and losing their homes. President Obama is not adding to any comfort zone with his total lack of explanation towards economic regulations and/or criminal enforcement. It's almost like President Obama thinks that he can be the BFF of the biggest high roller on Wall Street and also to the 7/11 grocery clerk at the same time. Maybe I'm missing something but during times like these you have to make a choice and proceed accordingly. Greiner describes the current situation which might be likely. Only problem with this is that most American children grew up playing Monopoly and we know how that game really ends.

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Well, let's tell the whole story, shall we?
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Mar 28, 2009 1:21 AM   
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Where to begin? Some say you have to begin with FDR's untimely death and the Truman-Eisenhower years, when the politicians and generals joined forces with the corporate leaders of the war industries to form the iron triangle of the military-industrial-Congressional complex.

This leads to interesting questions like, "do we have a President or do we have a CEO?"

If we have a CEO, than his primary responsibility is to the shareholders - meaning the holders of U.S. Treasury bonds. The federal reserve owns more than half, followed by China, Britain and Caribbean nation tax havens.

The CEO is elected by the Board of Directors, not by the unwashed riffraff - have you ever heard of a corporation chosing a CEO via the company-wide vote of all employees? Might not be a bad idea...

By the way, the Soviet Central Committee chose the Soviet leader the same way a Board of Directors chooses a CEO...

However, this is hardly "Obama's plan", anymore than the bailout was "Bush's plan". Bush was more of a performer than a planner, recall? Recall also the "seamless intergration" of the handover? You can imagine Paulson and Bernanke and Summers and Geithner in one room - would they be arguing? Paulson was CEO of Goldman Sachs, and Obama's top political donors in the big race were Goldman Sachs employees. Bipartisanship in action! Each side forked over many billions to AIG, and hence to Goldman Sachs ($10 billion in counterpary deals).

It didn't stop there - huge AIG bailouts went to Barclays, Societe General, Deutschebank (Britain, France, Germany), as well as to Citigroup and Goldman Sachs, due to so-called counterparty agreements. Bonuses? Who cares about a $165 million when hundreds of billions are being lifted under our noses? This is a tag team effort at finance, no doubt about it.

Obama may differ from the Cheney-Bush administration in many ways - but when it comes to catering to Wall Street, Obama is just another CEO called before the Board of Directors...

If this narrative is true, then we'd have to figure out who the Board of Directors consists of, wouldn't we? They of course are elected by the shareholders, who we presume are the majority holders of U.S. Treasury bonds.

Think of the entire country as Enron, in other words. Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling first made sure that the major shareholders and the top executives got to get out of the deal before it crashed, while all the low-level employees were were subjected to a stock freeze, as were the pension funds invested in Enron. The top holders were Janus Capital, Alliance Capital, Putnam Capital and Barclays. Janus and Alliance were hedge funds with contributions from, well, everyone you read about today - hundreds of donors. They all made money out of Enron and then walked away with it when the whole thing tanked.

We have been Enron'd, I think.

Recall the California electricity crisis, when rates were jacked up by Enron manipulations (plus others, like Duke, etc.)? That led to wild speculation by Enron traders looking to make a killing on the deregulated energy markets, followed by massive fraud and a giant collapse.

Now, think about the Iraq war and how it drove up oil prices to record levels, creating huge pools of cash that were recklessly invested by Wall Street. Again, global energy traders played the central role in pumping up prices...

Yes, it looks like we've been Enron'd by greedy billionaires - a vast pump-and-dump scheme, perhaps, or just rampant greed and stupidity - hard to tell the difference.

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» RE: From a former IMF insider... Posted by: tony_opmoc
» Planned: Watch.... Posted by: Fog
William Greider Assumes Legacy Assets Scam Succeeds
Posted by: jbpazz on Mar 28, 2009 2:28 AM   
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This is a heroic assumption. Even the Republicans in their 'budget' have proclaimed no more bail outs. The Legacy Assets are known as a scam to all including the public.
Without an honest sampling of the loan tapes, nobody is stupid enough to buy an 'asset' that may be worthless. Even the Wall Street bribes already paid to the Senators can't fix that.

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The Wrong Candidate™
Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 28, 2009 3:30 AM   
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I think it's official now that Obama was The Wrong Candidate™.

The dirty campaign is what tipped me. When the prog blogs started trotting out hoary old right-wing smears against the Clintons. I knew we were screwed.

Progressives using right-wing smears to defeat a candidate they don't like. REALLY BAD SIGN.

I nevertheless got my hopes up when Obama took office and seemed to be acting like a Democrat for a minute or two.

So what if his supporters acted like brain-damaged weasels?, I thought. He seems pretty damned cool.

But now, with this wonderful Monopoly game that Mr. Greider describes, I fear we have some sorta neocon in the White House. Real Democrats don't fight dirty.


Mr. Logan takes refuge from reality in his Magic Book

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Monopoly of the near future
Posted by: jon B on Mar 28, 2009 3:41 AM   
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Greider's Monopoly parody isn't so far from a version I thought up. The difference is that I think a bit bigger.

I would replace the two or three streets for a Monopoly group to two or three cities. The yellow group might be the Midwest, Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland. The purples, an all California group, San Diego, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

The Community Chest and Chance cards might have rewards in the millions and billions. For instance, "You have a successful real estate scam collect $500 million from each player." Or a travel card such as, "Advance token to Las Vegas, pay water bill $2 billion."

The bank would be named The Federal Reserve. The railroads would be replaced by entire travel industries, airlines, trains, trucking.

So draw another Chance card. "You 'made off' with $50 billion from Ponzi Scheme, then lost it. Pay each player $20 million after collecting the $50 billion from The Federal Reserve. Then advance token to jail and be the ONLY player to not be able to move your token again."

A Monopoly game even further into the future would have whole nations and regions as color groups. But by then the money would be in denominations of Yuans probably as our current real life Monopoly game eventually comes crashing to a halt.

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Future Generations.
Posted by: melpol on Mar 28, 2009 5:53 AM   
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Printing up trillions of dollars and spreading it around is fun. Life is short and short term fixes make life easier. In the long term we will not be able to pay the piper because most of us will be dead. Let future generations restore a nation that has lost its productive capacity. It will be their long term goal.

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» RE: Future Generations. Posted by: bcgirl125
» RE: Future Generations. Posted by: cplot
Hey, Kids! Here's another great new game. It's called...
Posted by: peterjkraus on Mar 28, 2009 6:11 AM   
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Hey, Kids! Here's another great new game. It's called Full House Russian Roulette, and it goes like this: Load EVERY chamber of EVERY handgun used to play this fun game, and then hand it to the first participant (usually the most successful banker, the one who got the most public assistance). He then points the gun at his temple and pulls the trigger. BANG! Wow! What fun! The next player takes the gun from the now prone successful banker and repeats the procedure. BANG! You get the idea. Too bad this fun party game ends pretty soon, but you can always invite other CEOs to play, automobile people and such. Let your imagination run wild! Then call all your famous friends and begin your very own round of Full House Russian Roulette!

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Don't click on that link (IDENTITY THEFT!)
Posted by: GuitarBill on Mar 28, 2009 8:20 AM   
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This scumbag is not trying to protect your privacy; he's trying to steal your identity.

If you click on his "Privacy Center" hyperlink, the server the link points to will install a keylogger on your computer, which is used to steal your credit card number, SSN, etc.

Please, report the comment to Alternet's staff.

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Everyone loses
Posted by: mjt on Mar 28, 2009 6:45 AM   
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Aside from all of the great points made above, another major killer is going to be inflation. This will run at a level far beyond what was experienced in the '70s and '80s. Not only are we going to be trying to repair a "guns and butter" economy, but also an ongoing mass looting of the treasury in epic proportions.

The earlier inflation resulted in a 4x increase in the price of goods. The next one will make that look like a piker. We will be joining Zimbabwe and other multidigit inflation nations.

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We NEED Another Game Plan
Posted by: joebhed on Mar 28, 2009 7:00 AM   
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Of course Greider is right, and he is one of the few people out there calling this thing a spade. For that we are grateful.
But if progressives don't wake up to the fact that THIS IS THEIR BALLGAME, and call it MONOPOLY if you want, but unless we can propose and demand a different game and a different set of rules, we might just as well sit back and enjoy it.
OTHERWISE, we need to undo their basic tool.
Yes, the FED.
Yes, the private bankers MONOPOLY rights to CREATE all of the nation's money.
It's NOT guaranteed, you know.
It was created by a pen.
If any of you progressives fail to recognize this essential fact, then, again, sit back and enjoy the thing.
It'll make great spectacle.
Otherwise, get ALL of yer friggin Liberal pols behind Dennis Kucinich's laying out of the Monetary Reform Act. NOW.
This ain't a game folks.
It's either us or them - for the rest of time as we know it.
The Chicago Plan.
THAT is the game we should be demanding.
Look it up.
Get behind it.
Or, bend over.

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Breakup all Corporations
Posted by: peacekeepertwo on Mar 28, 2009 10:12 AM   
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Job one of Any Corporation, is to make a Profit by putting people out of Work. job two is selling you on the Idea of purchasing one of there Credit Card's, yes most of these Corporation's, Also have branch that will kindly provide you with a High Interest Credit Card. bottom line these Corporations are slave Owners. We do not need these Corporations, and they must Fail. If you own your Own small or Medium sized Private Business, you could begin to have a chance to survive. When Large Corporations, have so much power they can change the rules when ever the want, no will succeed except those Large Corporations.

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Wall Street as negative barometer
Posted by: susanhathaway on Mar 28, 2009 10:37 AM   
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Rule Number One for any new bailout plan: Whatever the specifics, if the financial institutions are happy about it, it's the wrong plan.

Unfortunately, Obama and his entire economic team are too much in love with so-called "free" markets to impose strict regulations on the people who "earned" those massive bonuses.

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ENTIRE post WW2 middle class was a freak bubble
Posted by: billwald on Mar 28, 2009 11:06 AM   
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The historical world economic condition is 80% poor and working poor. WW2 produced a freak bubble of middle class blue and white collar workers. The WW2 effect is kaput and the world was/is regressing to the mean.

Our greedy owners got tired of waiting for return of our surf status and decided to raid the economy. Get used to the return of the good old days when the stinking rich and the middle class had live in servants who will be your grandkids.

On the other hand, the nature of poverty has changed. Americans on welfare have every sort of consumer good that the rich people have. The neo-poor are dying of fat, not starvation.

It is about power, not money. It is about the psychological chain, no longer the food chain. Most very human wants another human to stomp on. More people to stomp means more stomping status. I can't be convinced that a person with two billion dollars annual increase buys more consumer goods and services than a person with only one billion annual increase. It is stomping power, not consumption, that is gained.

Look at it this way: suppose free energy is discovered and we have a Star Trek economy with a computer in every residence that can generate any sort of human consumer good. Will there be social equality? Fat chance of that! Everyone on the Enterprise knew whom the skipper was and whom the oiler was.

Say the new economic equality arrives. Who lives in Bill Gates' house on Lake Washington? You say the entire non commercial Lake Washington shoreline will be a public park? Then who will live across the street from the park? There will always be an "across the street" and an "other side of the tracks."

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Follow The Numbers
Posted by: Alex Hidell on Mar 28, 2009 11:29 AM   
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Stephen Pizzo's article Follow The Numbers

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/20567

breaks it down, $1.14 QUADRILLION dollars ...

""Here's the breakdown, according to the International Bank of Settlements, which acts as banker for the world's central banks:

1. Listed credit derivatives stood at USD 548 trillion;
2. The Over-The-Counter (OTC) derivatives stood in notional or face value at USD 596 trillion and included:
1. Interest Rate Derivatives at about USD 393+ trillion;
2. Credit Default Swaps at about USD 58+ trillion;
3. Foreign Exchange Derivatives at about USD 56+ trillion;
4. Commodity Derivatives at about USD 9 trillion;
5. Equity Linked Derivatives at about USD 8.5 trillion; and
6. Unallocated Derivatives at about USD 71+ trillion.""


the taxpayers of the world cannot afford to fork this money over to the derivative queens of Wall St and Fleet St. For cryin' out loud, World GDP is only $71 trillion (per CIA World Book).

We can't pay off derivative 'gambling chits' AND pay for a worldwide economic recovery too. Obama needs to choose which one he wants.

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» RE: Follow The Numbers Posted by: Johnny Hempseed
Excellent Demolition of George Brown By a Conservative Politician in The EU
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 28, 2009 11:33 AM   
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Daniel Hannan MEP: The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Government

However George Brown has still got a big smile on his face and isn't picking his nose.

I still have an open mind on the question of whether George Brown is a genius or an idiot.

I have been singularly unimpressed with conservartives - since Margaret Thatcher destroyed the Real Economy of The North of England. We were actually producing stuff that people wanted to buy - and some of it was high tech state of the art.

Thatcher/Friedman economics formed the base of the current mess we are in.

Running casinos is just a massive con game. It creates absolutely nothing of real value.

This guy however is something else. I couldn't give a toss what his political colour is - but laying it out in such style in 3 mins is sheer class.

Tony

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The Peasents Are Revolting
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 28, 2009 12:18 PM   
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Total Meltdown and Civil Unrest

From what I can gather the London Protest today went off without violence with the Cops in Their Crash Helmets Dancing With The Protestors.

Keep it Up

Tony

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So We Will Be Going Down The Pub Soon
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 28, 2009 1:02 PM   
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Did You Go To The Protest Today?

Nah - Couldn't Be Arsed

But Our Kids Did

So What side where they on?

Well My Daughter went to the Global Warming Thing, Myeldest son Is a Right Wing Tory - and went on the Tory Protest - and My Youngest Son is a Fascist Policeman - Complete With Riot Gear - Crash Helmet - The Fucking Works

So How Did They Get On?

Well They Are All On The Same Side Really

They Thought it was a bit Daft Smashing The Shit Out Of Each Other

Cos The Real Tossers Don't Turn Up Until Next Week

Tony

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As much as this author is trying to cheer us up, he's failing to even try.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Mar 28, 2009 1:32 PM   
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Looking at the way everything's getting worse as hell, and no I'm not a Republican because I know that Mccain or Obama it would have been the same, I feel less inclinded to accept this sick joke. Now I have to clear my eyes again ! Arrrrghh !

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god
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 28, 2009 1:41 PM   
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bob marley - no woman no cry

tony

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Everybody Owes - Everybody Pays –> Fascism USA
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Mar 28, 2009 3:55 PM   
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This is maybe the best column I have ever seen out of William Greider (Author of the Federal Reserve limited hangout whitewash “Secrets of the Temple”). Satire by the likes of Voltaire, Mark Twain and George Carlin has put the heat under a corrupted establishment order to the point it does not get away clean with its criminal acts. At least not quite.

the Puppet Show

Like the clown he replaced, Obama is a runway puppet president. A pre-selected Trojan Horse. He was chosen years in advance to mask the parasite ruling class club that stoked and created the subprime / derivatives meltdown out of the private Ponzi trap “Federal Reserve” Corp (not federal, no reserves) through Sir Allan “Bubbles” Greenspan and Ben Bernanke

(Greenspan who was knighted at the behest of City of London financial dons by the Queen of England took his soothsayer doctorate on the subject of Housing Bubbles).

Bubbles that are created as deliberately as this giant have to be busted in a big way. At the top, everyone behind this toxic bubble knew exactly what they were doing. That includes “Bubbles” Greenspan and Bernanke. But it also includes Obama “advisors” George Soros, Robert Rubin and Larry Summers with their G30 boy Tim Geithner and all the rest of Obama’s Rubin Wall Street gang.

Crisis - Solution

$700 TRILLION dollar plus toxic bubbles don’t just happen ( more than ten times the planet’s entire asset base and GDP ). Toxic bubbles this large are fully created to be pumped and dumped on Washington-MSM suckers – in other words unsuspecting Americans. The meltdown was planned as an artificial crisis. So was the “solution” in “Wall Street Bailouts” that represents the final stage at ruling class takeover of the nation’s economy and what’s left of “democratic” government.

So Obama smiles, waves and says not to worry. It’s a “rough patch” that will turn out just fine. But not for you and me of course. The ultra-privileged Fascists that created and profited from the toxic mess they force Americans to eat will get a never-ending “Wall Street Bailout” to literally bank on at the public nickel. And a transformed Fascist nation. That’s because the American people will never stop being too naïve and gullible to allow it. They’ve been programmed to think they’re stupider than Ponzi thieves and that America under “democracy” and “capitalism” always cleans itself up.

But we don’t live under “democracy” and “capitalism”. Those are propaganda slogans sold by the Washington-MSM circus. They have almost no meaning after 9/11 coverup into the genocide of a 9/11 “war on terror” spy state.

Public thievery for private profit

Mussolini coined the F-word as the practical merger of state under dominant corporate power (the “Doctrine of Fascism”). “TOO BIG to FAIL” Fascism never cleans itself up. It has to be busted and removed from power. The founders warned us of this over and again.

We still aren’t listening.

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Monopoly
Posted by: remoran on Mar 28, 2009 4:44 PM   
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It starts and ends with the Fed. Doesn't anybody realize this? When a government loses the right to manage our money, we are toast. Simple is it not? Smoke and mirrors and obfuscation is the name of the game regarding the Fed and the minions, including Obama, who serves it. Unless the Fed is abolished, all the rest of the hand wringing and bitching is for not.

'Nuff said.

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THE TAXPAYERS ARE THE LOSERS
Posted by: foxxx on Mar 28, 2009 5:34 PM   
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THE TAXPAYERS ARE THE LOSERS 3 DIFFERENT WAYS= 1. THE SAME 3 BIG COMPANIES COLLECTED THE LOAN= (BAIL OUT MONEY) AND HAVENT PAID ANY OF IT BACK==WE PAY ONCE. 2. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO USE TAXPAYERS MONEY TO BUY THE FORECLOSED HOMES AND CD'S FOR A $1 TRILLION DOLLARS==WE PAY TWICE. INSTEAD OF SUBTRACTING THE FORECLOSED HOMES FROM THE BAILOUT LOAN. 3. THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO GIVE THESE FORECLOSED HOMES FREELY TO THE PALESTINIAN REFUGEES THAT HIS FEB 4TH./09 LAW STATES HE'S BRINGING IN.= WE LOST THE MONEY AND THE FORECLOSED HOMES + THE CD'S.SO THE ONLY WINNER IS THE 3 BAILED OUT COMPANIES AND THE PRESIDENT'S REFUGEES. THE 3 BAILED OUT COMPANIES= GOT THE BAILOUT AND ARE SELLING FOR A TRILLION==A WIN, WIN, SITUATION AND THE TAXPAYERS A LOSE, LOSE, LOSE COSTLY SITUATION. ARE WE TAXPAYERS SURE THIS PRESIDENT IS A SO CALLED GENIUS FOR AMERICANS OR FOR THE PALESTINIANS? THIS SO-CALLED MONOPOLY IS COSTING THE TAXPAYERS ALMOST $2 TRILLION DOLLARS AND NO FORECLOSED HOMES AND NO GUARANTEE OF OUR BAILED OUT MONEY BACK FROM ANYONE. I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE CHEAPER FOR OUR COUNTRY TO PAY $ONE MILLION TAX FREE TO EACH PERSON WORKING OR UNEMPLOYED 50 YEARS OLD OR OLDER TO RETIRE THEM, NO MORE UNEMPLOYMENT, NO RETIREMENT FOR 20 YEARS AND EACH HAS TO BUY 4 AMERICAN CARS OR TRUCKS OR BOTH, PAY OFF THEIR DEBTS UP TO $500,000.00 GIVE $25,000.00 TO A NEIGHBOR ON EACH SIDE OF THEM TAX FREE AND $2500.00 TO A FOOD BANK FOR 5 YEARS. THIS WOULD OPEN UP APPROXIMATELY 50 MILLION JOBS AND THE REST WILL BE SPENDING MONEY MORE FREELY. A QUESTION WAS ONCE ASKED, WHY DONT THE SMARTEST PEOPLE SAY SOMETHING. WELL WE HAVE, BUT I FIND OUT THAT POLITICIANS DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE THAT ARE SMART, THEY FIGURE SINCE YOU VOTED FOR THEM THEY ARE THE SMART ONES.==FAT CHANCE. HAVE A NICE DAY. MIKE

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Yeah that's right Blame Obama
Posted by: EinMD on Mar 28, 2009 9:32 PM   
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Dude's been in office two months and the economic crisis is all his fault.

Never mind that eight years of deregulatory policies started it all under Republican watch. Never mind that the two wars we're in were started under Republican watch. Never mind that rampaging speculation drove the price of gas through the roof causing economic chaos around the world - on Republican watch.

None of that matters because you think you have a convenient scape goat and boogie man in the black guy Democrat who pantsed the jackasses who've been running the country into the ground.

The fact of the situation is that Obama got in office to clean up the mess left behind by an administration and congress that cared less about governing than they did about keeping their rich friends happy by screwing everyone else over.

What I wonder is if and when Obama does actually get this economy back on it's feet again are you going to give him all the credit for it? Or will you make up a similar bunch of bullshit to give the credit to some other person? Guess we'll have to see, won't we.

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» Obama is to BLAME Posted by: ds1st
» Bullshit Posted by: EinMD
Get Out of Jail Free
Posted by: DrBrian on Mar 28, 2009 10:20 PM   
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Yeah, and Wall Street swindlers and government war criminals get "get out of jail free" cards.

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First get it right
Posted by: jcgret on Mar 29, 2009 5:21 AM   
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The problem that Obama is seeking to address is not that the toxic assets are worthless. Rather, its that no one knows what's in them, so they can't be accurately priced. The banks can sell them and there are willing buyers. But the buyers will only pay pennies on the dollar. The banks think they are worth much more. So Obama's plan seeks to raise their price by guaranteeing the investment. The hope is that investors will bid up their price because of the potential for outsized rewards for very little risk. Is the plan a giveaway? Probably. But for different reasons than Greider gives in his article.

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We Should Not Give More Power To The Federal Reserve!
Posted by: ATH on Mar 29, 2009 9:48 AM   
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"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its syetm of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." President Woodrow Wilson, 1919.





"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks, and the corporations which will rise up around them, will deprive the people of all their property, until their children wake up homeless..."

--President Thomas Jefferson



"Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws."

--Mayer Rothschild, private banker.



In 1835, Andrew Jackson shut down the private central bank that preceeded the Federal Reserve, or FED, and completely paid off the National Debt. He is the only President in history to do this. The way our monetary system works now, if we paid all of our debts, there would be no money ircirculation, because our money is based on credit and debt. This what Woodrow Wlson meant when he said "a great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. This where the idea of wealth creation was again institutionalized in the FED. Of course, wealth creation is actually debt creation. This is what President Jackson said:

"The bold efforts the present bank has made to control the government...are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution, or the establishment of another like it."--President Andrew Jackson. Of course, we were deluded into creating another bank like it--The Federal Reserve.



Henry Ford once said, "It is well enough that people of this nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorow morning."



"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." President James Madison, main author of the U.S. Constitution, and our 4th President.



"The bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again.

However, take away from them the power to create money, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.

But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let them continue to create money."--Sir Josiah Stamp, Former Director of The Bank of England.



Finally, here's the last quote, from Abrahamn Lincoln, supposedly President Obama's favorite president. Too bad he's not listening to honest Abe. Don't forget to scroll down for the newsletter afterwards! Take care!



"The government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency.Creating and issuing money is the supreme prerogative of government, and its greatest creative opportunity.

Adopting these principles will save the taxpayers immense sums of interest, and money will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity."--President Abraham Lincoln.

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» The Jefferson quote is fake Posted by: ReallyBearish
Thoreau
Posted by: kafka, f on Mar 29, 2009 11:08 AM   
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It is laughable that many decry the bankrupt U.S. system yet those who run it are tax cheats. Interesting, the malfeasance of the government knows no bounds. Palin is a tax cheat yet gets to live in the lime light and have continued substantive impact on the lack of justice system that exists in the U.S. Of course obviousness of Palin’s thievery on taxes is irrefutable just review her tax returns wherein she not only stole from the government she helps run by under reporting income and taking false tax deductions but she cheated the state of Alaska by filing phony expense reimbursement reports (and was actually compensated by the state for staying at her own home). Though Palin’s thievery is nothing in the context of Geithner or Mike Hamersley the high level government tax shelter lawyer who goes around confiscating income from honest citizens. Hamersley is perhaps the worst offender of all as he is a nationally renowned tax crusader who based on his own definition of tax fraud to the U.S. Senate purveyed massive tax fraud against the government he now works for utilizing sham foreign paper transactions to generate 100s of millions of phony tax deductions for his clients at KPMG. Of course KPMG, committed massive corporate tax fraud for its clients like the now bankrupt Citi. Though in defense of KPMG, the massive corporate tax fraud it purveyed pales in comparison to the financial statement fraud it engaged for its banking clients like Citi by falsely clearing balance sheets with Tier 3 sham investments and intentionally misevaluating sham derivative contracts such that the financial system crumbled and the costs to the citizens will run into the Trillions while all the while those that run KPMG like Tim Flynn earn their multimillion salaries from the high audit fees paid by their banking clients for issuing fraudulent financial statements which effectively the American people are now funding since if Citi was allowed to fail, KPMG would be out of business and Flynn would end up in the poor house instead of making millions. It is an awesome system if you are one of those like Flynn pulling the strings and defrauding the American people. Ask Flynn about his fraudulent Bermuda captive insurance company, Park, which is a sham paper company used to generate 100s of millions in phony tax losses for KPMG partners (just like it does for its corporate clients) and cheat future partners out of profits by deferring settlement payments for years through sham contracts devised by Claudia Taft of KPMG.

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» Organized coherence wins every time! Posted by: johnwinthrop
» RE: Thoreau Posted by: 2thepoint
Is it still too early for an I told you so?
Posted by: Spot on Mar 29, 2009 11:20 AM   
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Is it still too early for an I TOLD YOU SO?

neither democrats nor republicans have a solution to the crisis. we need community-based economies which plan to fulfill local needs.

don't expect a corporate-funded campaign, or party, to represent the needs of the working class. only a working class party, with a platform that acknowledges the class war and stands against the entrenched power of capital, will EVER attempt to bring down the corrupt establishment.

The democrats are just as big a problem for working people as republicans are.

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» Oprah Who? Posted by: johnwinthrop
Damn, could it be..
Posted by: 2thepoint on Mar 29, 2009 2:58 PM   
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Bush doesn't look that bad?????? naw!

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» RE: Got a new identity pointy? Posted by: sasquuatch55
Chill Out! Obama Got This, Peeps!
Posted by: xbj on Mar 29, 2009 3:00 PM   
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Chill out!

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The origins of the crisis
Posted by: RR#1 on Mar 29, 2009 3:22 PM   
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It’s in the time of economic crisis that it becomes most apparent whom capitalism (and the governments that manage it) really works for.

For the last four months politicians and mainstream economists have incessantly uttered two lies to the people regarding the current economic crisis: (1) that it was completely unpredictable; and (2) that we should not worry because economic recovery is on the near horizon, perhaps in a quarter or two. Nothing could be further from the truth, and most of these “experts know it.

The truth is that this crisis was completely expected, and that our society will not emerge from this crisis looking like what it did going into it. Anyone familiar with the economic forecasts of popular and independent economic institutes like MonthlyReview.org or GlobalResearch.ca, would have seen the current economic crisis coming years, if not decades, ago.

The Root of the Crisis: Stagnation

The root of everything wrong with the economy today is inherent to capitalism. Capitalism must constantly expand because capital itself must constantly expand – i.e. it must be invested in the production of new commodities and the exploitation of more workers so as to attain a rate of profit as high as or more than the average.

When capital is unable to find profitable outlets for investment, this is what is called stagnation, and stagnation from the perspective of capital equals crisis! It’s important to recognize that this “crisis” is characterized by an abundance of productive capacity, and an abundance of resources, human and otherwise. This is what distinguishes capitalism from every other mode of production that preceded it: crisis means too much – too much productive capacity and too much capital in the context of too little profitable investment opportunities for the kings of the economy. Another way to understand stagnation is that the capitalists are unable to sell all that they can produce. In an economy where the means of production (factories, banks, communications, transportation, etc.) are collectively owned, the notion that abundance means crisis is an absurdity.

rest of the article can be found here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/

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What Is The Alternative
Posted by: ssg13565 on Mar 29, 2009 7:07 PM   
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After reading the Taibbi story in Rolling Stone, I understand the fraudulent behavior of the creators of CDOs backed by worthless CDS "insurance".

Most of the mortgages behind the CDOs are probably still good. I don't know about the CDOs of CDOs. The AIG CDSs are worthless unless the government puts in the money.

So the financial sector of the economy must contract at least by the amount of phony assets - probably including the non-existent naked short shares.

What kind of pain can the economy expect during this process of shrinkage? Is there any way to lessen the pain of the innocent bystanders?

I wish the Greiders, Krugmans, Kuttners, and the like would explain their alternative scenario.

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one trillion
Posted by: om7buss on Mar 30, 2009 11:39 PM   
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one trillion seconds is equal to 32,000 years..www.henrybook.com

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OBAMA THE DUFUS GOES ON
Posted by: reelman on Mar 31, 2009 6:06 AM   
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11 of the 20 vehicles GM makes $$$ on are trucks-SUVs...the area where Obama wants the greatest production cutback!
Dems have no clue about business or economics in general...
see Jimmah Carter for a reference.

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he economic stimulus plan that President-Elect Obama is working is
Posted by: My Easy Payday on Mar 31, 2009 4:55 PM   
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The boom stimulus procedures too President-Elect Obama is striving is guessed to be between $675 and $775 Billion. The stimulus initiative am able to be geared towards job cost increase and infrastructure. Some suffer alleged the tedious work must be carried out to increase in value short-term spending but Obama’s sector stimulus program looks like it's to hold continuing effects. This sounds rational as short-term spending can merely be a pithy band-aid at best. We own to move away based on data from presently concept the we can spend our way out of trouble!
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monopoly
Posted by: om7buss on Apr 2, 2009 4:18 PM   
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a game that evil people like to play with our lives...www.henrybook.com

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