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Tim Geithner, Tell Us Why You're Rescuing the Very Private Interests that Led Us to Ruin

By William Greider, The Nation. Posted February 13, 2009.


The lack of transparency and silence feeds a popular suspicion that politicians are still working for the other side.
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The look and tone of the Treasury Secretary reminds me of the third grade. The smartest kid in the class, the one teachers loved, was the boy who always raised his hand and waved it impatiently while some other student fumbled for an answer. If the teacher stepped out of the room for a moment, bedlam usually followed and this kid would try to restore order. "Be quiet or I will tell." Kids threw things and tormented him until the teacher returned.

Timothy Geithner reminded me of that type as he lectured the country on how the Obama administration intends to save the financial system. The country is apparently responding in kind -- hurling blistering comments at him and the "best and brightest" who are now in high office. How could these smart people be so dumb about things everyone else already understands? Americans do not need to be told, as Geithner did, that they have "lost faith." The remark is condescending and infuriates further.

What people wanted to hear, in plain English, were hard answers and an honest acknowledgment of the extreme irregularity of events -- government is rushing to rescue the very private interests that led us to sorrow. Instead, Geithner told us he has a "plan." He will share the details at some later date. Be calm. Stay tuned.

It's unfair, I know, to pick on Geithner. Everyone says he is a nice guy and maybe so. But his opacity is staggering and fairly representative of the governing elites in this country. Events of the last six months have transformed the context of American politics and government. People do not need to be told things are bad because the bad things are happening to them. Nor do they need a scolding tone from official Washington, since they also know Washington was fully complicit as the titans of finance went wild. I wouldn't say Americans have been radicalized -- not yet -- but the unsatisfying political events are driving people in that direction. So is the lack of honest explanations and the refusal of Democrats and Republicans to confess error or offer apologies: silence feeds a popular suspicion that politicians are still working for the other side.

The question about Geithner that intrigues me is why. Why do brainy technocrats like him often seem so clueless (or, if you like, indifferent) to the social reality once they have risen to the top of the governing heap? I think it may have something to do with the experience of being the smartest kid around and being told so from an early age. This could encourage a narrow kind of arrogance, but maybe also insecurity. Over many years, I have seen a certain type both in politics and private life who climbs the slippery pole by applying intellectual firepower and performing for the teacher. Superiors are impressed and always like this dutiful type. Promotions take them higher and higher. Then they get to the top and it becomes obvious something is missing -- a capacity to think creatively in strange new circumstances or the human empathy required to lead others.

My curbstone analysis could be dead wrong about Geithner but might aptly describe the career path of Larry Summers, Obama's economic advisor. Summers rose to the top -- president of Harvard -- on his well-known brilliance and he was done in there by his personal arrogance. He ingratiated himself with superiors on the way up and adjusted his economic thinking to seasonal changes in ideological fashion. He also learned the bureaucratic skills needed for policy infighting -- how to cut other economists with opposing views out of the debate. He somehow did so in the Obama White House.

This is relevant now because Barack Obama has chosen to rely on Geithner and Summers for managing the economy and reforming it. If they are too narrow in perspective, too defensive in behalf of the failed status quo, the Obama presidency will be crippled by their lack of imagination. That leads to another question: why did Obama feel the need to select such a confining list of familiar technocrats -- competent and brainy like himself -- to run the government? The president is neither arrogant nor insecure -- he exudes the opposite -- yet he must feel more comfortable dealing with folks vetted by the same ladder of success. Perhaps he believes the "best and the brightest" will protect him from failure. Or maybe he thinks his presidency will have more power to change things if he sticks with people drawn from among the influential elites, safely aligned with the existing power structure.

The fact is, we do not yet know the answer. Events are rapidly revealing the nature of this new president, and we have a lot to learn. We know how smart he is, how easily he empathizes with people across the usual dividing lines. We do not yet know if he is wise enough -- tough enough -- to lead the country to new ground.


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William Greider is the author of, most recently, "The Soul of Capitalism" (Simon & Schuster).

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Unsure if Obama is even in control?!
Posted by: Jay Randal on Feb 13, 2009 12:35 AM   
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Americans tend to assume that Pres. Obama is in control of the federal government, but actually his actions denote somebody who is NOT in control. He seems to be just a front-man for hidden business interests. If he keeps shoveling hundreds of billions of dollars to Wall Street banksters, then I am proven right.

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Having someone like Geithner in charge of the Treasury....
Posted by: Animal on Feb 13, 2009 12:46 AM   
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.... Is like putting Michael Jackson in charge of a daycare center.

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Just a Figurehead?
Posted by: writerman on Feb 13, 2009 1:28 AM   
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A figurehead, isn't that what the President really is, and arguably, has always been? Wasn't this the role the framers of the Constitution assigned to him?

What really surprised me about Obama is how bad he is at public speaking without the benefit of the autocue. Witness his first press conference for evidence of this. I actually think he's worse than Bush. At least Bush gave the impression he was in charge. Obama seems simply out of his depth, halting and unsure of himself. I think this is because he's a student of rhetoric, not ideology; and brilliant rhetorical skills without ideological balast and content, are soon exposed as nothing more than a hollow shell.

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Hey now
Posted by: ender on Feb 13, 2009 2:02 AM   
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As a former "smartest guy in the class," I have become convinced that the quickest way to the top is to have no scruples. Without a doubt, doing the right thing has hurt my career. (Why do you think whistleblowers need legislated protection? Why do you think Repugnicans are so against whistleblower protections?)

People like "Cartman" from South Park rise to the top. He's not the smartest or strongest, but he has the strength of amorality going for him. Couple that with an understanding of manipulating people in large numbers (Rove & Goering) and you have a potent force to be reckoned with that no amount of inconvenient truths can easily dislodge and cannot be reasoned with (Bush, Judge Scalia, Fox News, Rush, Coulter etc.)

The same is true for corporations - it's just a question of scale.

Corporations have one legal mandate and one legal mandate ONLY: create as much wealth as possible for the shareholders. That's it. When the courts are loaded with Repugnican judges and the legislative branch is owned by corporate lobbyists, the cost of any penalties is less than the cost of doing the right and/or legal thing and hence, simply added to the cost of doing business.

For example, say a corporation does their taxes legally and owes a million bucks, but if they cheat, they owe nothing and if get caught cheating, they'll only owe a hundred grand a few years from now. Obviously, cheating is cheaper; ergo, they cheat. In fact, in that situation, they would be LEGALLY COMPELLED to cheat in order to provide the most money to their shareholders.

Corporations and politicians face that kind of situation at every turn and guess which direction they usually choose. And penalties can be fought for decades (Exxon/Valdez, GE/Hudson River, Dupont/Bhopal) which lowers the cost directly via inflation and appeals. If nothing else, it pushes the payment to the next fiscal year which means, "I got my bonus, baby! Who cares about next year? Screw the next guy!"

Cost of doing business, citizen. What are you, a communist or something? Nothing to see here, citizen. Move along.

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» RE: Hey now Posted by: richholland
» RE: Hey now Posted by: ender
» RE: Hey now, beyond words...? Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Counterexample Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Counterexample Posted by: ender
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» RE: Hey now Posted by: ender
Tax cheats
Posted by: sicntired on Feb 13, 2009 4:18 AM   
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These Obama appointments think only suckers pay taxes.What can you expect from them?

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» RE: Tax cheats Posted by: orda
Greiders Solution?
Posted by: joebhed on Feb 13, 2009 5:12 AM   
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I fail to see why progressive economic thinkers like Bill Greider use the Nation and Alter-Net to be mere critics.
This is supposed to be where progressive ideas are fashioned.
What has Bill Greider accomplished by showing the smartest kids don't know what to do about getting us out of this mess?

The fact that Geithner and Summers are a pair of the gang that brung us to this dance does NOTHING for solving the situation.
In the absence of progressive substance on the part of Mr. Greider, I am offering up the following as a solution.
A combination of Friedman on MONEY Quantity and CREATION, and Irving Fisher on 100 Percent Reserve Banking.
Friedman: "Creation of fiat-money should be a government monopoly". That would be government creation of the money-supply, debt-free at issue. Abolish the money-creating powers of the FED.
Fisher on 100 Percent Reserve Banking:
It has as its goals-
1. to keep checking banks 100% liquid;
2. to prevent inflation and deflation;
3. largely to cure or prevent depressions;
4. to wipe out much of the National Debt.

What progressives DO NOT need today is a louder more strident criticism.
That's too easy, and dis-empowering.

What we need is a plan for getting out of this mess.
Dennis Kucinich is in the process of bringing such a plan forward.
We would all do well were Greider, Baker, Kuttner, Klein, Krugman, Galbraith et. al on board with a REAL solution.

How do we get there, progressives?

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» RE: Stephen Zarlenga & AMI Posted by: FeralCat
Financial wizards
Posted by: seazen on Feb 13, 2009 5:21 AM   
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Alternet is one of the very places where it is possible to spend time with serious, intelligent, useful commentary and reporting. There are times when the issues are so complex, so important, and so controversial, however, that we probably should admit that we do not fully understand them and do not have solutions ourselves.

The current global financial system is a massive, highly interactive, and complicated set of organizations, instruments, and regulations whose tentacles reach deep into every industry, government and family. We are correct in being outraged that those meant to oversee this systems let it run amok and that we have been deeply harmed while a few ran away with ill-gotten gains.

It will take years and the hard work of many, many people here and abroad to right this ship. A small handful of people even have a glimmer of how the system operates and access to the data, the technology, and the analysts to being to make sense of it all.

Asking Geitner, or anyone else, to deliver some 5 sentence, explicit statement as to exactly how this is going to resolve itself is presumptuous. We need better controls, we need accountability, we need transparency, but give them a break. A month? And they are supposed to have this all worked out after 8 years of sustained neglect?

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villager
Posted by: villager1 on Feb 13, 2009 5:23 AM   
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There is no doubt that the appointments are "disappointments" to say the least and we are all agreed that they are the same scoundrels who created this dilemma in the first place - the question is: "who put them there and was there a motive behind it?"

The answer is that "The Boss" put them there.

We may conclude then that "The Boss" has a motive.

The question now is "Is that motive determined by "The Boss" or orchestrated by "The Elites?"

I am just very curious, since in normal business practice incompetent appointees are usually fired after a probation period, not heaped with adoration and additional benefits, unless there is a hidden agenda!

We are left to guess at that, but it is not invalid for us "normal citizens"- (nee'idiots) to suspect that " things are not always as they seem to be " and to question the validity of those appointee's as well as the reasoning behind "The Boss's" decision to make those appointments, plus the very clear indication that "The Boss" has no intention of dealing thoroughly with the most relevant problem (The Wall Street Shysters) and consequently is "Himself" as much to blame as them all. Putting a ceiling on earnings or "retention bonuses" is ludicrous!
If someone screws up fire them! Who's the boss here anyway?

In any business I have worked in,there were always standards of performance and certain evaluations
in place to determine the suitability or otherwise of any employee,(including the boss), but in Government that does not seem to apply.
NOTE:
I work in a comission only industry- real estate i.e. no sales = no pay! The real estate business has become difficult lately but we cut our cloth accordingly unlike the Wall Street Thugs.

Overindulgence of any kind is wicked and sinful and one can easily see those who overindulge by the florid complexion, bloated bellies and jittery look in their eyes.

Ring any bell's?

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Obama Is Pawn of FED
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Feb 13, 2009 5:35 AM   
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The Greatest Financial Fraudulent Scam Ever
Often the simple explanation is the correct one. It does not matter what Obama says but it truly does matter what he does and who he appoints to Important financial positions.
The Federal Reserve is the most fraudulent scam invented in modern history or ever. The Federal Reserve is the life blood of the monster called the War Machine. The monster is brainless and ruthless and will certainly destroy the planet if its feeding system is not broken down and totally annihilated. As a matter of fact only a true revolution and public uprising can undue the vicious and malicious scheme. But first there has to be public awareness at a planetary dimension because the entire planet is suffering from its ravages and havoc.

go to 911 inside job.net

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I agree and am very worried about Obama's choices.
Posted by: cori on Feb 13, 2009 5:49 AM   
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Joseph Stiglitz: Nationalized Banks Are "Only Answer"Friday 06 February 2009
Nationalized banks are the "only answer," economist Stiglitz says. In an interview with Deutsche Welle, Nobel-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz talks about nationalizing banks, the outlook for developing countries, and the need for an international financial regulator.
Why didn't Obama pick him? Obama is experiment, an act of desperation from our being subjected to the madness of the Republicans, Bush, Chaney, Wolfowitz and the whole corrupt gang that led us into this mess. Obama will be at war with the Republicans who want him to fail too. I believe his picks of Griethner and Summers are short sighted. If we weren't paying 1 trillion per yr to the military + all the tens of billions to the heath insurance, drug companies and prisons, we could afford national health care, free day care, affordable housing, food for the millions of starving Americans. You can't have it both ways. I think we will just spend ourselves into oblivion leaving this nation on an economic ash heap. Too many in power want to maintain the status quo. People are not going to go back to their old spending habits when we have no safety nets. We learned that there is nothing there when we lose our jobs, healthcare, or can't afford to live on pathetic wages. The stimulus package leaves too many people behind and doesn’t give enough. We have a national Katrina on our hands and they have put a band aid on it. Also spending is not the only way to get us out of this read FREE LUNCH. We also need serious tax restructuring and no more corporate welfare that rapes us.

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The Answer is Darwin.
Posted by: undead on Feb 13, 2009 5:59 AM   
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The carrying capacity of the Earth is nearing an end. We shall see a huge "die off." Then evolution will work its "magic."

Problem solved.

I just find the situation very entertaining. I am sure the great spirit is laughing very loudly at our "plans."

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» RE: Nature bats last. Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: In it together... Posted by: oregoncharles
etalby
Posted by: etalby on Feb 13, 2009 6:05 AM   
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Many of us believe we live in a plutocracy and are new Treasurer is acting in a consistent way.

Et

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That's what Obama was elected to do.
Posted by: Scottk on Feb 13, 2009 6:05 AM   
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To sell out the American people to the banksters. They knew the robbery would work better if a faux populist like Obama does it. The guy raised 600 million dollars during the election, 400 million more than Bush ever did, so I am afraid in many ways he is going to be 400 million dollars worse than Bush.

Don't worry the sycophant Democrats will support him no matter what, I mean, the guy has a D behind he his name, enough said in their minds.

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Like Mark Twain
Posted by: Scottk on Feb 13, 2009 6:11 AM   
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Bill you said: The question about Geithner that intrigues me is why. Why do brainy technocrats like him often seem so clueless (or, if you like, indifferent) to the social reality once they have risen to the top of the governing heap?

The answer is simple, like Mark Twain said: you can not expect a man to see what it is he being paid not to see.

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Geithner is a POLICE STATE TROLL & OBAMA is a Paid PLAY-ACTOR
Posted by: PointMan on Feb 13, 2009 6:16 AM   
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They both work for the usual corporate felons that pumped and cranked this $8.5 TRILLION Wall Street "Bailout" heist into overdrive. Now we get the "stimulus" loony tunes scam that will go to the pockets of political alligators from Florida to Alaska to build bridges and gold plated toilets to nowhere.

Obama seems out of touch and a bit scared. The whole mess reeks of a bad Hollywood corporate gangster script where the actors don't quite have their lines down. Unfortunately, it's real and the bloody consequences are likely to break the U.S. into even more a 2nd rate banana oligarch Police State than it is now.

No matter how glib and smooth Obama is, it hardly matters. He's way out of his depth and no better at acting "president" than say Morgan Freeman or Denzel Washington in the role he was bankrolled into. (that's a compliment for acting skills - not for being anywhere near a real president)

Greider says people aren't being given the truth with a lack of honest explanations. Of course, that includes Greider himself that has never once admitted the "FED" is a private POLICE STATE Mafia style extortion fraud that virtually rigs the DC and media runway show.

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Trying to See Through Lead Curtains...
Posted by: gazooks on Feb 13, 2009 6:17 AM   
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... is analogous to what Timothy Geithner is facing.

Not to be apologistic for the lack of reforming vision apparent in the administration's attempts to salvage a broken banking system, but the nether region of the global derivatives market is opaque.

Geithner is positioned like a catcher at home plate with Nolan Ryan delivering hard fast-balls of toxic derivative contract liabilities in an unlit ballpark at midnight. He doesn't know what's coming until it hits, he needs a very, very big mitt and must nail investment runners stealing second base. This is not an enviable position.

The administration can not promote panic to already spooked markets, but in unregulated, private exchange global markets with a complex matrix of counter-parties, there's NO predictability because there's NO transparency.

The kind of strategic detail that's being clamored for to satisfy market anxieties is only possible for market regions of known quantity for establishing asset value. Ironically, the biggest critical mouthpieces are the same astute politicians that oversaw the abandonment of legislated oversight and prudent restrictions to investment banking practices.

So, Geithner's armed with estimated, fractionally allocated resources to compensate for potential banking exposure to an exercised notional value of HUNDREDS of TRILLIONS of $'s @ 95% average leverage in contract liabilities.

These are essentially insurance contracts that the banks sold for quarterly fees to purchasing investors of the now euphemistically famous "toxic assets". They are instruments based on theoretic, mathematical models intended to disperse and neutralize the risk of financial contract performance and apparently intrinsically miscalculated the downside reality of their fraudulently crafted value basis.

In a nutshell, there is NO calculus to determine with accuracy, in the course of a broad market correction/collapse, the probable exercised volume and total notional value as a percentage of a $600 trillion unregulated, private exchange traded global market. A continued decline in the broad economy further triggers the exercise of contract obligations.

A financial black hole is sucking the equity from a public unable or unwilling to insist that it's leaders prudently represent their interests. It's a complex systemic failure generations in the making for which we're all responsible and there's no easy out. Damned if we do hyper-inflation, damed if we don't market disintegration.

Prepare as we can for what follows, but what lies ahead is uncharted terrain with guides that do not know the way.

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» RE: Let them go down. Posted by: oregoncharles
Get Real!
Posted by: Alcinor on Feb 13, 2009 6:58 AM   
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"suspicious that politicians are working for the other side"

That is like being surprised to find bear shit in the woods!

Whom do you think politicians work for? They work for people with MONEY. If you are just realizing this, you should not be the one giving advice and criticism.

Ultimately it is the International Bankers, say the Rothschilds, who own and control the Fed who are behind this debacle. Central banks like the Fed, who by the way is as Federal as Federal Express, love to create wars and ecomomic chaos because it dramatically increases the need for the money that they create out of thin air and are only too happy to loan to governments.

Politicians will only act on our behalf if we threaten their re-election. Let's get busy. Send letters, make phone calls, send emails, let them know that if they don't support us, we will not support them!

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A rock and a hard place
Posted by: solrev on Feb 13, 2009 7:06 AM   
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It does not matter who Obama appoints; no one actually knows how to salvage a failed system. The problem is, why are we even trying to salvage the system, there is just too much funny money paper in the system. The government should have let the commercial banks fail, let the FDIC take over the deposits and any loans the bank held directly, and purge the system of any funny money paper held or issued by that bank. How much does it cost to shred paper? Once the bank is purged, you have a good bank again, so move on to the next bank. What are we doing? We are trying to make the funny money paper worth something but no one knows how to do that. Let the investment banks fend for themselves. If we had done that the banking system would have been fixed already. A lot of money would have been lost but it was never real anyway and the fed would not be printing money to try and make it real. Then we could get down to the real economic problems. Are we going to reduce are standard of living to be competitive with China? If I hear Greenspan say how many people have moved from starvation to subsistence one more time, I am going to puke. We do not have to lower are standard of living to raise the standard of living some where else. That is a zero sum game and a scam to make us all slaves.

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Human nature is in charge
Posted by: floridahank on Feb 13, 2009 8:18 AM   
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Def: human nature: the common qualities of all
human beings. The driving force is self -
preservation, protection, betterment and
improvement for onself -- be it a Democrat or Republican -- there's no
basic difference between individuals in 99% of the cases. We won't see
much positive change for the next 4 years.

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The age old question of why are leaders are children.
Posted by: FeralCat on Feb 13, 2009 8:23 AM   
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Greider makes the great point that our leaders lack "a capacity to think creatively in strange new circumstances or the human empathy required to lead others."

Yes, the whiz kids and student council presidents end up in Washington and they do not really have many people skills or any reason why they are there other than winning the next logical position.

David Korten says that these people are caught in "an imperial consciousness". They are perpetual kids who understand that you can steal things from people who trust you. You lose a lot of friends that way, but there are always other friends to find. These are the people attracted to public office now. People who grow up have little use for Washington.

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Welcome to the GOP Great Depression II
Posted by: jimswanson on Feb 13, 2009 8:52 AM   
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James A. Swanson, Los Altos, CA
"The Bush League of Nations"
www.bushleagueofnations.com [for FREE download of entire $25.95 book]

Timothy Geithner and “Government Goldman Sachs"—I fear that a skulk of fox is still in charge of the chicken coop.

We recently poured several hundred billion dollars of taxpayer money into the cesspool known as America’s financial system.

What did we get in return? No stimulus. No accounting. Nothing.

We are truly nuts.

But I see an instructive parallel here.

Dumping that money into that Fat Cat cesspool was like Bush and the GOP giving hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the Super Rich.

In both cases, we got nothing in return. No stimulus. No accounting. Nothing.

Nothing, that is, other than a multitude of moral and financial deficits.

Welcome to the GOP Great Depression II.

We are truly out of our gourds.

James A. Swanson, Los Altos, CA
"The Bush League of Nations"
www.bushleagueofnations.com [for FREE download of entire $25.95 book]

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» RE: What GOP? Posted by: oregoncharles
Technicans in a Technological Society
Posted by: sgparry on Feb 13, 2009 9:32 AM   
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In 1948, Jaques Ellul, wrote a seminal book, "The Technological Society." Like most French philosphers, he is nearly impossible for non-French to read. Two of his key points were:

In a technological society, where "technique" become supreme, "means" tend to become more important than "ends." The technique by which things are done get more attention than the reason we are doing something or the goal we seek. We all know that tecnology is very seductive, we want the latest gadget, we hope that nuclear power or new medicines will solve our problems.

Two: In a technological society, secondary thinking becomes more important than primary thinking. How we do somethng becomes more important than why we are doing it. This gives primacy to people like Geitner, who have master the "techniques" of our arcane finance system. It also allows them to create a finance system that only they can understand, creating the technological priesthood, we call "the best and the brightest."

So Obama went to the Federal Reserve, the high temple of the financial pristhood to find an oracle. And what we see is the Geithner protecting that priesthood.

Early on little Tim learned how to read the "Jesuits" in the classroom, and give them what they want. And in our technolgical society that meant math and science. He not only knew the answers he knew how to "read" the teacher and knew what the questions were going to be on the test. The priesthood channeled him away from the soft liberal arts into the left-brain areas of math and science. Developing perspective and creative thinking were not rewarded.

Obama came of age in this culture. It is no suprise that he would turn to the financial wonks for their techniqual agility rather than their judgement, which has been fluid.

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The Peter Principal
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Feb 13, 2009 9:57 AM   
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Quite simply these cabinet members are classic examples of promotion to a level of incompetence. They have nowhere to go but down or out. They are completely isolated from the "common man" and what the majority suffer. Self-serving elite who take care of their own and are planning for their next job in finance. Meanwhile we suffer from their financial impotence

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Masquerade
Posted by: sawdust on Feb 13, 2009 10:12 AM   
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I think the fox is wearing a chicken suit.

And "saviours" who arrive amid great fanfare and with a flowered resume usually are not.

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Cudos
Posted by: sawdust on Feb 13, 2009 10:17 AM   
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This is a great article. Timely, precise, incisive.

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I believe this author actually supported BHO in the first place.
Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield on Feb 13, 2009 10:50 AM   
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And this was while BHO was going out of his way to armtwist his party, even the Black Caucus members, into bailing out Wall $treet. This is exactly what you get for allowing the "vote for the lesser of the two evils" mantra to misguide your vote. I'm a happy nonconformist voter voting with my heart and mind and not on what the corporate media tells us to pick between. And I'm happy to be persecuted for doing it. :)

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"I wouldn't say Americans have been radicalized -- not yet -- "
Posted by: oregoncharles on Feb 13, 2009 11:42 AM   
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About time, don't you think?

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larrytm
Posted by: larryltm on Feb 13, 2009 2:51 PM   
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". . . .The question about Geithner that intrigues me is why. Why do technocrats like Geithner often seem so clueless to the social
reality once they have risen to the top of the governing heap? . . ."

I'm surprised to hear you have to ask this question. I don't know for sure, but I have to believe Geithner, Obama, and the rest of the banking crew are all members of the CFR. As such they are first aligned with the interests of their kinsmen, and rarely if ever with the rest of us. I came out of the corporate world and know very well how the people at the top get there. Mastery of the barracuda tactics required to move ahead is essential. Knowledge of the business is secondary and with many of these barracudas it isn't even a consideration. Hence many of those that rise to the top are clueless about what makes their operations run. Usually this leads to their downfall. What we've seen in the financial world is exactly that with enough time to destroy, not only individual companies, but an entire system as well. Some people who are essential to solving corporate crippling problems are tolerated up to a point. Once their usefulness to the barracudas wanes so do their positions if not their jobs. This is the way it is in most corporate hierarchies and will probably always be so. What we don't need at the top of the barracuda pyramid is a secret society like the CFR into which these less than honorable or knowledgeable specimens can join with others like themselves and get to run the government. There can be no real representative government until we get rid of the hold that the secret societies have on public office.

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In the words of Howard Beal
Posted by: wormfarmer on Feb 13, 2009 6:37 PM   
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"I'm Mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore". Screw the whining politicians, nationalize the banks. I'd rather have taxpayer control, as private control caused this mess. I don't trust the bevy of economic advisers Obama hastily assembled. All from Clintonian era, all from the private sector. The trait of our species to not do anything until cornered with no place to turn will (hopefully)drive society in a progressive direction. The only change I've seen is the performance of "At Last" by Beyonce, at the inauguration. instead of by Etta James, who sings the original. Change you can believe in? What a sham.
A democracy is a government by, for, and of THE PEOPLE. Some of our founding fathers were of the mind that the masses were not intelligent enough to govern themselves. Lets prove that assumption false.

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Hey Tim Why the Banks on Wall St. but not the Poor Folks on Main St. It's called Capitalism, Stupid!
Posted by: yellow on Feb 15, 2009 2:35 PM   
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The usual right wing populist crowd on the Alternet blames da Jooooz, da Dems, da gummint and just about da anything else but capitalism. This is how the system actually works idiots!! Concentrated capital markets and large concentrations of wealth are conveniently seen as to big to fail. They get the assistance others don't because they're seen as vital while Main St. is expendable and will be around no matter what. "The Poor will always be with us," said Jesus and of course, this is one of the starting points from which the GOP proceeds in all its social policy choices. And so nothing will change. Even if the Democrats hold power, they are subject to the same political inclinations.

As long as the conspiracy mongering morons like most Alterneters believe that capitalism is OK except for corruption or da Jooooz there will be no change. Of course, right wing populism doesn't help either.

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IS THIS THE 4 YEAR TAX CHEAT??
Posted by: reelman on Feb 19, 2009 11:04 AM   
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OBAMA POLICY PROTESTED: SCANT COVERAGE

More Than 500 Protest Obama’s Arrival In Mesa, Arizona. 2.18.2009

The protestors, about 500 to 600 strong and growing, began arriving as ticket-holders walked in. . . . They held their signs up high: “Don’t tread on me,” “Spend all you want, I’ll pick up the tab,” “I’ll keep my freedom! You keep the change!” “Free fertility drugs now.” And “B.O. smells and so does Socialism.”

CRAWFISH NOTE: Radical socialists do what radical socialists do…they cannot manage a hot dog stand. This angry clueless man is a victim-worshiper bent on punishing higher achievers and buying the votes of the low achievers. Less than 30 days and some voters are already realizing this man is a radical socialist (as his record and life history show)…a trillion more of debt for the voters too…no surprise here. The lib-media will keep changing his diapers. We warned voters for six months. Enjoy the democrat socialism, suckers.
http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/

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