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Wall Streeters Want Our Pity -- Gimme a Break

By Jim Hightower, Creators Syndicate. Posted February 13, 2009.


Those poor, unappreciated Wall Street execs keep whining about the prospect of pay caps. Someone pass a hankie.
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Editor's Note: It looks like the language to cap exec pay may end up being cut from the stimulus bill by Congress.

Listen intently, and you can hear the faint music of the band coming from over the hills. Their drums are pounding out a steady cadence, the bagpipes are wheezing mournfully, and the fifes are trilling plaintively. Coming straight at you, it's The Musicale Marching Pity Corps from Wall Street!

This big banker band -- including a line of baton-twirling lobbyists and a chorus of right-wing talk show yakkers -- is on the march because Obama and other dastardly Democrats have proposed to cap the outrageous pay, bonuses and perks that bailed-out Wall Streeters keep grabbing for themselves. The band's whining refrain (note: You might want to reach for your hankie before reading this) is that these princes of high finance are being picked on.

Yes, trumpet the bankers, we make a lot of money, but we deserve it, and the system cannot function without such rewards for us. Indeed, sniffs a Wall Street consultant, "taxpayers should want banks to retain the cream of the crop." Uh, sir -- wouldn't that be the same cream that has soured America's entire financial system?

Well, they snap, you riff-raffers just don't get it. "The pay scale for Wall Street is different (than) the pay scale for America," explained the chief lobbyist for the Financial Services Roundtable in an ABC News interview this month. "So these numbers look large, but the market value for these executives -- there's a very small talent pool of individuals that have the education, experience and knowledge to operate a global, international services firm in this day and age."

The lobbyist then tried tugging at our heartstrings: "I don't think the issue is a dollar amount. It's being paid what you're worth. Would you be willing to work for less than what you think you're worth?" he asked.

If ignorance is bliss, this guy must be ecstatic. Most Americans are working for less than they think they're worth! Ask a schoolteacher.

In a January New York Times op-ed, one investment banker conceded that there have been excesses in pay, but that the system itself is sound. "Without those bonuses," he wrote, "firms simply couldn't attract the best and the brightest." Apparently, he counts himself as one of the B&Bs, noting that the yearly "euphoria" of bonus cash that he received was what "justified the days on end of working into the wee hours, the months on end without a single day off."

Sheesh. Do they not look around and see that millions of us (from schoolteachers to farmers) are working the same long hours at a fraction of their pay? Do they actually think that "best and brightest" is measured in dollars? His op-ed drew a number of sharp responses from readers, including one who noted that he, too, has a job with "days on end of working into the wee hours," yet -- no bonus. "I am what is called a physician," he revealed.

Mark Twain said it well years ago, "I am opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the position." Americans are not against making money, even great big wads of it. We're against greed. That's why there is broad public support for Obama's proposal. As he rightly said when announcing the pay cap, the bankers' shameful grab for their own enrichment in the midst of a national economic collapse is "exactly the kind of disregard for the costs and consequences of their actions that brought about this crisis -- a culture of narrow self-interest and short-term gain at the expense of everything else."

The only problem with the president's compensation cap is that it has too many loopholes (it doesn't apply, for example, to the outsized paychecks going to the honchos of Citigroup, Bank of America and other giants that have already ripped us off for hundreds of billions of dollars in bailout money).

Congress should toughen it. But at least it finally lays an ethical marker that can begin to reverse the corporate culture of greed that has so severely harmed our country.

COPYRIGHT 2009 CREATORS SYNDICATE INC.


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Jim Hightower is a national radio commentator, writer, public speaker, and author of the new book, "Swim Against the Current: Even a Dead Fish Can Go With the Flow." (Wiley, March 2008) He publishes the monthly "Hightower Lowdown," co-edited by Phillip Frazer.

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Worth less than used toilet paper...
Posted by: cordas on Feb 13, 2009 1:41 AM   
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"So these numbers look large, but the market value for these executives -- there's a very small talent pool of individuals that have the education, experience and knowledge to operate a global, international services firm in this day and age."

I suppose he is right, it is a very limited pool at the very bottom of the barrel for such retarded egomaniacs that even after they have lost billions still think they are geniuses, any rational (normal) person who had dropped the ball as badly as these muppets would walk away into the sunset thinking how lucky they where not to be trying to avoid lynch mobs.

At the end of the day we are only worth what our employers choose to pay us, why should these idiots be worth any more than the taxpayers who bailed them out think they are worth? (Actually most tax payers I am sure wouldn't pay them the crap that they scrapped of the bottom of their shoes).

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Life is not an Ayn Rand novel
Posted by: Perry Logan on Feb 13, 2009 3:09 AM   
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This is the comeuppance of pretending that businessmen are the super-race.

As we gaze on the smouldering ruins of the Republican Revolution, we can see that it was all based on the premise that business people are superior to all other classes of people. That's the import of Ayn Rand's novels. It's the import of all that Reagan jive about government being the problem, not the solution. It's still what the few remaining Republicans think.

The superioirty of the merchant class was the 80s meme, started by Reagan. We have heard this rhetoric for three straight decades, and we all know it by heart: Government can do no right. Business can can do no wrong.

Since government is a necessary component of the body politic, this anti-government bias is inherently pathological. It takes the Founding Father's wise advice to constatly monitor government and turns it into a political psychosis. Hating government is as unhealthy as hating one of your own vital organs.

That's why a bridge collapses in honor of Ronald Reagan every day.

It's also why our pitiful banker friends can barely deal with the concept of a pay cut. They still think greed makes the world go round. They still think they're the super--race.

Thanks to such delusional thinking, America has been 8 Years without a Leader

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» Rand was right Posted by: rickiey
» RE: Life is not an Ayn Rand novel Posted by: BlueBirdyFliesSouth
Where else would they go?
Posted by: Bic Pentameter on Feb 13, 2009 3:16 AM   
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If the financial firms don't pony up, waht are they gonna do, manage a burger joint? What's more, the CEOs are NOT the ones working 18 to 20 hours a day, seven days a week.

They are the ones with yachts and summer houses bigger than many hotels. The long gruelling hours are put in by people beneath them. And they are somewhat known for playing favorites and making miserable the ones they enjoy seeing suffer.

As for the idea that only those select few can do it, consider Microsoft, Apple, Google, YouTube, Cisco Systems, etc. Even in times past, Walt Disney started out as an animator and George Westinghouse was laughed at for his idea about air brakes for trains. Andrew Carnegie came from modest means.

They are not such a rare talent, but some sort of rare breed. Pick a name for it.

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» RE: Where else would they go? Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Where else would they go? Posted by: BCcovers
Cry me a River...
Posted by: Gisele on Feb 13, 2009 3:33 AM   
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...The lobbyist then tried tugging at our heartstrings: "I don't think the issue is a dollar amount. It's being paid what you're worth. Would you be willing to work for less than what you think you're worth?" he asked...

If they were truly paid what they're worth (and the whole world now knows it for sure), they'd have to pay Wall Street for the privilege of being hired! Let's face it, how many companies are going to be willing to put their nesteggs with someone who brought about one of the biggest financial crashes in world history? Only in America would you still have your executive office, the rest of the planet would put you in a cell. If you're lucky.

..."The pay scale for Wall Street is different (than) the pay scale for America," explained the chief lobbyist for the Financial Services Roundtable in an ABC News interview this month. "So these numbers look large, but the market value for these executives -- there's a very small talent pool of individuals that have the education, experience and knowledge to operate a global, international services firm in this day and age."...

If the pay scale is different, it's the fault of those with over-sight being too stupid/lazy to pay attention to the ineptitude in front of their noses. If the financial debacle we're seeing right now is the result of those with the education, experience and knowledge to operate..blah, blah, blah...then please step aside. I'd rather see Grannies and Gramps with silver hair, owing nothing to anyone, take over. They would know how to live within their means, save for a rainy day, and have enough left over to help their next of kin. Obviously your highly paid education was for nothing. Back to kindergarten with you! You'll be paid accordingly.

..."Without those bonuses," he wrote, "firms simply couldn't attract the best and the brightest."...

If your ilk are an example of the best and the brightest in America, then America has more trouble than it knows. That someone has to continually bail your ass out of the mess you've made is disgusting. You've proven what you're worth, now give the bail out money back...or vacate your chair to someone who actually knows what they're doing.

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» RE: The Zsa Zsa Effect Posted by: Sushi
villager
Posted by: villager1 on Feb 13, 2009 4:04 AM   
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Obama should now show us what he is made of. Tell these geniuses to pay the bailout money back - get rid of them - if they can find another job ( Iceland maybe?) let them go and good riddance.

There is always a better chance with principled people than there is with schemers.

Enough of their unbridled arrogance and intolerance of what is decent.

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Highly recommended CNBC, "House of Cards" TV show last night
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Feb 13, 2009 4:05 AM   
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I'm going to have to pay more attention to the station, their evening TV has offerings. First a story on the economics of pot and now this. The "House of Cards" program was really top notch.

I think they are rerunning it in some marathon on Saturday, but I was falling asleep. The show was good enough, I stayed up late to watch it.

I was really impressed at how well they deconstructed the housing and financial/banking mess. I suspect the show is linked on the website, haven't checked, but this is really worth watching.

The banking industry is a big mess. The more people understand how it happened, the better we will be able to figure out how to fix it.

Personally, I'd call what they were/are doing, fraud, but I didn't hear that word used last night. What it is is very clear from watching the program, a must see.

Where are the regulators?

The ending with Greenspan is downright chilling.

If you like horror films, watch it! You won't be able to put it out of your mind right away.

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Wall Street Financial Genius
Posted by: bccmeteorites on Feb 13, 2009 6:03 AM   
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I don't want to make like of the fact that it takes no special skills to lose massive amounts of other people's money. Anybody can do it. When I read this detailed article I was reminded of a study several years ago where a chimpanzee was pitted against a stockbroker for picking winners and losers and the chimpanzee outperformed the stockbroker by several points but since the markets were doing well at the time it was just a fluffy entertainment piece. These people should read
The End of an Era, by George Kleinman (financialsense.com) where he begins his piece with the Hit Film, Trading Places where truth is stranger than "myth".
The classic 1983 comedy Trading Places is one of my all-time favorites. Winthorpe is superbly portrayed by Dan Aykroyd as a rich commodity broker turned homeless, with Valentine--played by comic genius Eddie Murphy--as a homeless man turned into a rich commodity broker.

http://www.bccmeteorites.com/misconduct-planetary.html

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» RE: Wall Street Financial Genius Posted by: lindawageck1
Instead of just cutting their pay...
Posted by: on Feb 13, 2009 6:23 AM   
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Shouldn't we be dragging them into the streets and giving them the Reginald Denny treatment?

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It Takes a SPECIAL KIND of CRIMINAL MIND
Posted by: weslen1 on Feb 13, 2009 7:12 AM   
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It takes a special KIND of criminal mind to COME UP with the kinds of schemes that can allow a small group of "men" to steal billions of dollars from investors, put millions out of work, out of their homes, on the streets, take the pension funds of millions just before retirement, buy a congress person or 3, AND come out of the stink with all their salaries, bonuses, assets and a$$es INTACT.
Very RARE TALENT INDEED.

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Excessive pay
Posted by: LeeAnnG on Feb 13, 2009 7:41 AM   
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I've heard the rightwingers for years go on and on about how people would never go into business if they thought there were caps on how much they might get paid. The same apologists for the fabulously wealthy insist that billionaires actually earn their obscene salaries and perks.

But apparently, business is the only career in which this need for outrageous compensation exists. As Hightower points out in this article, teachers are not paid nearly enough for what they do, but there's no claim by the same business cheerleaders that we won't get quality teachers if there's a cap on their salaries. This lack of infinite advancement is true for many professions, and yet we actually do get highly qualified teachers, police officers, military leaders, and other necessary contributors to our society.

In fact, members of congress have a fixed income while they are in office. I never hear anyone promote the idea of removing caps on their salaries in order to get the best and brightest. (Hm. I wonder if that might possibly work... Nah. Probably not.)

The truly amazing thing is that so many working people buy into this notion. Not long ago, one of the secretaries in the school system for which I work was complaining about how much the superintendent of schools makes. In West Virginia, the school systems are divided into counties, so the superintendent here is in charge of 26 schools with over 1,500 employees and 15,000 students. I believe he makes around $100,000 per year. The lowest paid employee is about $20,000. So this is a matter of the highest paid person making 5 times as much as the lowest.

So I told my friend that the average CEO makes about 400 times the average worker in private industry. If that were the case in the school system, the superintendent would make about $12 million (considering that the average salary is at least $30,000, and the superintendent is not the average CEO here). She was amazed at this revelation.

A long time ago, I read Douglas Hofstadter's book "Metamagical Themas" in which he discussed the human inability to absorb and understand very large numbers. It's an explanation for why people get all bent out of shape because auto workers make a living wage compared to other working people but have so little reaction when they hear that someone is worth $44 billion - as Bill Gate was before the recession hit (I have no idea what he's worth now, but I assume not quite so much).

I sincerely hope the Wall Street plunderers don't get their way, but I assume they will.

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» RE: xcessive pay Posted by: BCcovers
» RE: xcessive pay Posted by: Cybershaman
» Excessive payola Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Excessive pay Posted by: hagwind
ba
Posted by: mnstra on Feb 13, 2009 8:13 AM   
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we would be better off being part of the Mafia crime family. at least could take the law into our own hands, and not have to sit back and be robbed constantly by these bastard bankers with the help of our Govt..... Your Govt. at least I dont vote to give these criminals permission to rob me.

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The "Best and Brightest" con
Posted by: socrates2 on Feb 13, 2009 9:00 AM   
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Mr. Hightower,

High praise to you, sir, and the other letter writers--all with a sense of decency, humanity and empathy. And even anger!
The "Best and the Brightest?" Only under a monetarist, corporatist system would those words be true--had these over-paid individuals indeed increased productivity, employment, expanded retirement benefits, medical care, and somehow enriched the nation.
The "B&B" failed to do any of the above. They only "succeeded" in concentrating wealth in their pockets and those of their closest associates via fraud, lobbied legislation, and undeserved tax-breaks--all "subsidies" from the People.
Ergo, these currency/commodity-"concentrators" stole their investors (not to mention our Republic) blind, even under their narrow Ayn Rand-esque system of values!
The B&B in my system of values head to Central and South America, to Third World countries badly in need of basic infrastructure such as literacy, dams, agricultural techniques, seeds, sturdy living structures,and hospitals. The authentic B&B use their ingenuity and engineering and medical skills to bring a standard of living beyond hand to mouth survival to our marginalized fellow earthlings.
I agree with those who write that the Wall Street culture has brainwashed the public into buying the image of financiers as the "Best and the Brightest" when in fact they are no such thing. They are merely well-networked types who either attended select business schools and/or were genetically-endowed with the gift of credibility.
The drones (who unhaply did not attend elite business schools and who in many cases train their own "superiors") under them actually put in the 16 to 20 hour days when necessary, and
their "superiors" take the credit. Sound familiar?
The smart "drones" (whose self-esteem outweighs their greed) eventually tire of the game and seek greener, more promising pastures and fulfilling careers. In this case, left alone the "B&B" demonstrated their true talents...
Large numbers of our Republic's authentic Best and Brightest truly love what they do and despite the obvious limits on income put in 12 to 16 our days. They have the self-discipline to keep their acquisitive and narcissistic impulses in check.
Some teach at the elementary school level others in colleges in backwater states and still others teach abroad where they provide non-Americans real examples of American good-will.
The Wall Street "best and brightest" are no more than arrogant, greedy narcissists. And they _know_ it... Their con is: "I can make you rich like me. Let me use _your_ money." Isn't that the premise from the film, "The Sting?" Having the innate or learned skill to gull people does not qualify any individual for "B&B" status. Sorry. Finance skills? A chimp and/or any graduate from _any_ Finance school can learn and do as much and even better than these losers.
It's about time the rest of the Republic caught on.

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» The wrong perspective Posted by: bornxeyed
Stoopid.........
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Feb 13, 2009 9:30 AM   
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Good article, but I would go just a bit farther: (1)the blathering of the rabid right is their pathetic attempt at obfuscation - you know their usual thoughts that everyone else is stoopid and still falling for the okie-doke. (2)it worked before - keep repeating the lie enough the public will buy it - I AM THE PUBLIC - WE VOTED THAT IS WHY YOU ALL ARE IN THE MINORITY!!!

Mr. President - please keep it up - the rest of us that are awake are watching, paying attention, and writing our Congresspeople voicing our concerns!!

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OCEANS OF TEARS!
Posted by: sirios on Feb 13, 2009 10:11 AM   
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My wife is an empath [really] . She can't even be in the same room with someone who has a physical injury without the emotional aspect of the injury being transferred to her. when she read this article,[ not really] about the poor poverty stricken execs., she had to be rushed to the emergency room with a broken heart!

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What am I missing here?!!!
Posted by: madmax427 on Feb 13, 2009 10:34 AM   
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Wasn't the proposed Pay Cap DROPPED because I READ Congress thought it would cost ONE BILLION DOLLARS to enforce (Enfarce) it?!

www.whatsyourlifeworth.info

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Jim Hightower:
Posted by: bettyn on Feb 13, 2009 10:36 AM   
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Since Ann Richards and Molly Ivins are still dead, you must be the only sane person voluntarily living in Texas! I don't care WHAT these Wall Street honchos say, there is ABSOLUTELY NO ONE on this earth worth the kind of money these pigs are pulling down. Does ANYONE need: 1. A new Gulfstream jet with all the amenities every damned year.(Got to always be bigger than the last one.) 2. A new Lamborghini, Rolls, Ferrari, or Mercedes every six months. 3. A new $10,000,0000+ yacht every year.(The new Queen Mary wouldn't suit some of these clowns). 4. Ten $100,000,000 estates at various playspots around the world (which gets redone every year by the next in a series of Mrs. Boopsie Gotrocks trophy wives). 5. $10,000 wristwatches (one for each day of the week, especially for Mrs. Boopsie). 6. $10,000,000 engagement and wedding rings for this series of trophy chicks.

This kind of EXCESS demands these characters be tarred, feathered, and ridden straight to jail! (A REAL prison, mind you! You know, the kind where a certain part of your anatomy gets considerably widened every time you go to the showers.)

Considering the fact that these punks are probably the sons of the sons of the sons of someone who ever did any actual work and are all dumber than dirt (Think the Bushes as an example.) and this stuff becomes even more disgusting.

Off with their heads!

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» RE: Jim Hightower: Posted by: sawdust
Like the nose on your face
Posted by: sawdust on Feb 13, 2009 11:17 AM   
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What Hightower does not say directly (ironically enough) is that the obvious is often obfuscated by the onerous and limited vison of the intellectually handicapped. Or something like that.

By the time I write this, the editor's note has become reality, and the only chance we had to shackle the criminals has been lost.

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Boo, hoo, hoo...sob, sob,
Posted by: beijaflor on Feb 13, 2009 11:18 AM   
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um, perhaps these tears belong to the crocodiles ?
The repuliCon framing is a joke (as always).
Caps on CEO pay during this Greater Depression? Yup, you bet there's gonna be some caps if US citizens are footing the bill.
Thank Mr Hightower; as always, a good rippin' read.

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wall street fraud
Posted by: pacto on Feb 13, 2009 11:43 AM   
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personally I think the people.. in high positions on wall street should not get a cent from the lowly taxpayer.Why do we have to pay them for stealing our money? the investigations should start immediatly, of course they will be allowed to rip off, because the normal american investor is greedy also. like pigs at the trough.

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editors note: exec pay cap may be cut from bill
Posted by: Dixie Dawg on Feb 13, 2009 11:51 AM   
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When the failed looser bankers are lined up at hearing being treated as expert resource on the effectiveness of the stimulus bill what really makes us think pay caps would stick?

The really sad part, the failed looser bankers are laughing their way, as it is said," all the way to the bank."

And, we the people keep cleaning up their mess.

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Wall $treet wouldn't be begging if these two parties would quit bailing them out !
Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield on Feb 13, 2009 1:44 PM   
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You Could Fire Every Single One and No One Would Notice
Posted by: Shankari46 on Feb 13, 2009 2:11 PM   
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Seriously. Most execs are like that. Who is doing the actual work is way below them. Ever notice most companies are top heavy. They have bunches of managers, CEOs, who get paid a bunch and who do nothing. If you fired most of them, the company would still run, and you would save a bundle.

These guys ran our entire economy into the ground. Because of these individuals, people are without jobs, being thrown out of their houses by the millions, running up huge credit debt they can't pay, and are not being asked to bail out these immoral sacks of garbage.

It was their idea to give Joe a credit card so he could buy a bunch of Chinese junk to prop up other countries' workers only later to see Joe later without a home or a job.

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The Zsa Zsa Effect
Posted by: Sushi on Feb 13, 2009 9:01 PM   
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For those of us who remember Zsa Zsa Gabor... she didn't really actually *do* anything. She was basically famous for being famous. She would sashay onstage and say "Dah-ling!" (her patent catch-phrase) and make small talk in her charming Swedish (?) accent, and thus she was an icon.

This reminds me of these Wall Street multi-payscalers, essentially their claim to fame is that they walk home with HUGE compensation for nothing other than being able to walk home with HUGE compensations. That IS their famous-for-being-famous.

When anyone claims to "work hard" for their paycheck, one has to wonder what the definition of "work" is. The guy who swings a hammer, breathing noxious fumes on a hot roof in the middle of July or some stuffed shirt who is terrified of someone finding out he's nothing more than a big phony who glad-hands other phonies while gambling with other people's money.

If this is the "best and brightest", I would rather put my money on the guy with the hammer. At least my roof won't leak while I am going broke.

Sushi
"Rectal thermometers have degrees, and look where they end up."

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RE: The Uber Meisters (aka Merchant Super Race)
Posted by: BlueBirdyFliesSouth on Feb 14, 2009 1:55 AM   
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I am cross referencing your post to ourfuture.org, where I accessed this article/and read your comments. It's a forum of Progressive Thinkers and WE NEED INTELLIGENT VOICES LIKE YOURS contributing to GREASING THE GEARS, that DRIVE THE COLLECTIVE DIALOG, and KEEP OUR FELLOW AMERICANS ENGAGED IN OUR DEMOCRACY, FROM THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL up! Even more so now, POST THE ELECTION! We need to stop negotiating with the HIJACKERS and DEMAND OUR COUNTRY BACK!

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I HIGHLY RECOMMEND 8 YEARS WITHOUT A LEADER!
Posted by: BlueBirdyFliesSouth on Feb 14, 2009 2:37 AM   
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PERRY, I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS/YOUR VIDEO! BRILLIANT! IT WAS SO CATHARTIC! IT OBJECTIFIES FOR ME, SO WELL, THE ANGST AND THE ANGER I HAVE HAD BUILDING IN ME OVER THESE LAST 'TERROR-FILLED' YEARS, AND THE INCREDIBLE... YES! HOW DO WE SPELL R E L I E F? YUP, MAYBE WE SHOULD BUY SHARES IN 'SUNSWEET' PRUNES! THAT SHOULD 'STIMULATE' THE ECONOMY, HUH? WEREN'T THOSE TWO 'WITTLE' COMMENTARIES... SO TELLING? AS IN ZILCH, NADA, NYET... POOR 'WITTLE' DITTOHEADS! THANK YOU AGAIN. A NEW & ENTHUSIASTIC FAN! MWAGH!

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personal accountability
Posted by: linecrosser on Feb 14, 2009 1:17 PM   
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Corporations, bankers or anyone who is responsible for decisions that effect the path the company takes should have to put all of their wealth on the line, just like a small business owner does. Freeze and seize all of their wealth, then sterilize them and there children so we can eradicate their DNA from the planet.

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Disturbing
Posted by: JSquercia on Feb 16, 2009 12:14 PM   
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I watched a clip of Vermont's Senator Bernir Sanders asking Geithner about one of the CEO's who made some obscene amount of money 128 million I believe even as his firm Lost Billions . Bernie asked should he be fIRED ? Geithner said it would be to his Board . Sorry WRONG ASWER Corporate boards are a joke a group of self sustaining insiders .
I heard that even with the limit Execs can still get Stock options based on long term performance . That sounds good but then you hear that should the stock price fall the board can reset the target price

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I See What's Going On Here
Posted by: dajson on Feb 16, 2009 12:28 PM   
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I think I see the real problem here. The rich take care of their own, and are quickly becoming a whole different class in the world to even transcend the poor man's nation state. The problem is that the rich have children, and the subsequent generations of rich people fail to inherit any virtue or intelligence, or even scruples from the parents. The privileged lifestyle makes them both soft in muscle and brain. It's like actors who live in Hollywood and have kids who can't handle a real job so the kids become actors and we all get treated to more and more crappy things to watch on TV. These rich Wall Street class people are having kids that can't hold real jobs in the real world. Those kids are being entrusted with jobs like CEO of a global corporation. Of course they run it into the ground. It's a lot like a rich President who had a son who never really did very well in school, and had a problem with amounting to anything. The son then became President and ran the country into the ground. Second generation upper class will be the undoing of America and the world because they are idiots. Even stupid people call W. Bush an idiot.

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caronome
Posted by: Bayardtom on Feb 19, 2009 4:00 PM   
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It is so infuriating to read what these thieves have done to our lives. The idea that anyone should be worth that much money ie outrageous. They should give the money back! It doesn't take any brains to demand a large amount of money. The people who gave in to their demand should be charged with theft as well.

Bernanke should have been booted out of Congress when he made his demands and to add insult to injury, with no oversight?! What is wrong with Congress? Who can we trust? The level of anger in the country has reached untold heights.

We, personally, have seen our financial situation go from bad to worse. Because of many illnesses and surgeries we have tapped out our credit cards and are having a terrible time keeping from foreclosure. We are hoping that this new bill will help us but we are not counting on it. We are in a peculiar place of making too much money for Chapter 7 and not enough for Chapter 13. What do we do?
Help from this new bill would be a godsend.

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