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Corporate Accountability and WorkPlace

The 10 Greediest People of 2008

By Sam Pizzigati, Too Much: A Commentary on Excess and Inequality. Posted December 23, 2008.


For obvious reasons, we probably couldn't have picked a better year than 2008 to "honor" our most avaricious.

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This time of year always seems to bring a never-ending barrage of "top ten" lists. The year's top ten movies, the top ten books, the top ten news stories, and on and on. Here at Too Much we've decided to join in on the action -- with our very own list of America's top ten greediest.

We probably couldn't have picked a better year than 2008 to so "honor" our most avaricious. This year's stunning economic meltdown has fixed the attention of our entire nation -- and world -- on the grasping antics of those who yearn for ever more than they could rationally ever need.

But this year also presents enormous challenges for anyone bold enough to rank the greedy. With so much greed out there, how could we possibly limit our list to a mere ten?

The latest greed explosion to hit the headlines -- the $50 billion Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme -- illustrates just how difficult a task ranking the greedy can be.

To whom in this scandal should we award the most greed points? Bernie Madoff himself, the 70-year-old who scammed his wealthy friends and charities to keep up his credentials as a Wall Street investing "genius" -- and maintain a $6 million pad in Manhattan, a waterfront mansion in Palm Beach, and a weekend getaway on Long Island?

Or should those greed points go instead to the ever-so-sophisticated hedge fund "middlemen" like Walter Noel, who built a five-manse fortune by steering clients to Madoff and charging them tens of millions in "due diligence" fees for the steering.

Or should the greed points go to Madoff's investors themselves, the swells who pay $250,000 a year for the privilege of belonging to a swanky country club?

So many choices! How about James Cayne, the Bear Stearns CEO who rode toxic securities into billionairedom? Or Angelo Mozilo, who took the same ride at Countrywide Financial, spreading suffering to subprimed families all along the way?

In the end, we came to realize, the size of the fortune alone doesn't determine greed. It's the thought that counts. In that holiday spirit, we hope you find our top ten greedy list of some interest -- and greed-busting inspiration.

10: Dwight Schar

Any list of 2009's greediest has to start, of course, with the power-suits who pumped up -- and profited ever so lavishly from -- the now-burst housing bubble. In November, Wall Street Journal researchers scoured the records of firms that build and finance housing and found 15 top executives who have pocketed, "in cash compensation and proceeds from stock sales," at least $100 million over the past five years.

Among the fortunate 15: Dwight Schar, the chair of homebuilding giant NVR Inc. The 66-year-old Schar has cleared $625 million since 2002. In 2004, he spent a good chunk of that buying an ocean-facing mansion in Florida's Palm Beach for $70 million, the highest price up to then ever paid for a U.S. residential property. The seven-bedroom home came with a walk-in humidor for cigars.

Schar's legal residence, a gated estate just north of Washington, D.C., sits on 10 acres overlooking the Potomac. NVR stock has dropped over 60 percent since its housing bubble peak, but neither of Schar's two main residences figures to foreclose anytime soon.

9: Patrick Soon-Shiong

Why does health care in the United States cost so much? Maybe somebody should ask Patrick Soon-Shiong, the Los Angeles drug developer who this September saw his personal fortune -- $3 billion last year -- take a giant first step toward more than doubling.

Soon-Shiong came into 2008 as the chief executive of APP Pharmaceuticals. He stepped down as CEO in the spring, but the former surgeon still held 83 percent of the company's shares. In July, he agreed to sell APP to a German firm. The sale finalized two months later for an initial $3.7 billion cash payment.  


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Sam Pizzigati is the editor of the online weekly Too Much, and an associate fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies.

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Posted by: booshan on Dec 23, 2008 1:34 AM   
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Forty years ago I asked a friend of mine, a VP of a prominent company, what exactly did the President of General Motors do to make 700K a year. He assured me that he was worth every cent. Like my brother-in-law, to whom I made the same querry, he insisted that CEOs work extremely hard and in order to get the BEST, companies had to pay a "very large" salary. We are now reaping the rewards of this kind of mentality. What I suspected then, and what we're learning now, is that BEST is a meaningless word designed to raise salaries, not quality of performance. Clearly, what this group is BEST at is scamming companies into bankruptcy, destroying the middle class and turning the US into a third rate third world country. Meanwhile, their BEST has left us with a rising unemployment rate, health care costs that few can afford, starving schools and rotting infrastructure. Thanks to another group of bandits who believe that rules are for others and regulation is anti-free market, these CEOs - the BEST - are doing just fine while workers are standing in soup lines. So who gets bailed out by one of Goldman Sachs top players? The guys who bankrupted the system. And THEY whine about welfare mothers? Give me an f---in break.

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» The Wall Street Journal Posted by: weathered
Steve Jobs?
Posted by: maestra on Dec 23, 2008 1:39 AM   
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Nah. I am sure there are candidates more gross and obscene, more greedy, who have made money for nothing off the backs of others for the list than Steve Jobs. He should lose the jet though.

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» Well, I am not sure I agree Posted by: wolfgangmo
» Steve Jobs? A buck a year? Posted by: HomerScarborough
» RE: Steve Jobs? Posted by: FURonnie
The Number 1 Greedy Guy is Missing
Posted by: DrGeneNelson on Dec 23, 2008 2:03 AM   
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Bill Gates, III should still be on this list. He has made only a modest contribution to the Gates Foundation, perhaps so that he may still be in contention to be the world's wealthiest man.

Please see my 2008 investigative article, The Greedy Gates Immigration Gambit for some details.

Additional details regarding Microsoft's greedy conduct are found in this legal filing by the author:
USA v. Jack A. Abramoff - Document 40
Please also view the image of the first page of this document at the PACER website for the DC District Court. The case number is 1:06-cr-00001-ESH and the filing date is 03 September 2008.

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Hold the Status; Spin the Word.
Posted by: talkville on Dec 23, 2008 2:21 AM   
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Adjectives.

For some: "Greed".

For others: "Success".

For still others: "Corruption".

For still others: "Theft".

or Sin, or Crime, or Parasite, or Symbiote, or ....

Hold all the real conditions in place. Spin the Words as history unfolds. The Conservative Way of Living.

Dis-Approvals and condemnations and judgments of Un-Praise will always appear After the Fact. The Conservative Way. The Swiss Defense -- Defer, defer, defer.

If the Harem is Discovered --- tsk! tsk!

If the Harem is Discreet --- mucho Macho!!

Some epochs, very discriminating senses and sensibilities get to Witness: tawdry, wasted Harems; tawdry, wasted Machos. Decadence. And that, unlike the fabled "trickle-down" waters of those ruddy, earthy fellows to quench the thirsts of the masses, reallytrickles down.

Tawdry, disgusting, nauseating, trollopy, Decadence. Caligula with the Soul of a Woman!

Some may perceive what I'm Getting At. Hopefully they are young and steeling themselves for Freedom. That struggle cannot be crushed. By Word or Deviation. Even 400 years can be but a Moment. If you have the Dis-ease, cultivate it, manage it, temper it, steel it, form it, raise it, enjoy it! It will be needed. It is needed. Free Man is rising and thriving, here and there, little by little. Don't let them make you "Healthy"!!

Cheers, I'm on the way to Ixtlan...

When so much shit is made and accumulated, someone's gonna have to consume it: force-feed them if necessary!!

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When will people start to rise up against these parasites?
Posted by: Bluecat464 on Dec 23, 2008 3:43 AM   
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I'm amazed that the newly poor in your country haven't started to rise up against the parasites that have infected the United States over the last twenty years.

These are the people that got you to believe in the trickle down effect, you know, the rich get obscenely rich, and every one else gets the crumbs they don't want. It seems that the rich thought even the crumbs were too good for the rest of you, and when the house of cards they created collapsed, they made sure the houses that disappeared were those of the poor, and not theirs. Why aren't people taking over thirteen of the fourteen bedrooms that one of those rich bastards has in his house? Why aren't the people who lost their houses taking over the houses these parasites have acquired with money they never had a right to?

Actually why aren't these parasites learning in a practical way about the architectural possibilities of packing boxes and cardboard?

Surely the poor still don't believe the American Dream?

and by the way, what is it with the ads around this story...date a millionaire, how to make a million sitting at your computer...I assume this is a subtle alternet joke.

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The top ten greediest "people" are all men
Posted by: blueglass on Dec 23, 2008 5:13 AM   
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Just couldn't help but notice.....

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» WOMEN LIKE BAKING CAKES Posted by: ds1st
So many to include !
Posted by: 2thepoint on Dec 23, 2008 5:24 AM   
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Steve Jobs and Richard Gillman surely do not belong on this list at all.

Jobs is one reason that many of us are typing on our Macbook Pro's for example or talking on your incredible high tech phones. He also has run a great company and deserves what any Entrepreneur should get for taking the risk to start such an incredible venture.

Gillman is representative of small medium company execs caught in this economic mess. When one works for a small company there are risks..Getting paid is always one of them. If there is no cash then there is no cash. The award should go to BOA, who took federal money and refused to loan it to such viable but cash strapped companies!

I didn't see Blagojevich on this list..He should have been number one. followed by Bill Jefferson. Maybe even Pelosi with her private jet as she continues to criticize the auto pres for their private jets.

Now no list would be complete with out Barney Franks..sleeping with the enemy of Fanny and Freddie while they took millions in bonuses while Franks told us all was just fine. What payoff did he get other than sex????

Now, no Arabs in here..how about OPEC, the entire group!

Other than that..this was a good list and is surely missing quite a few that lead us down this economic path by taking billions for themselves.

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» RE: So many to include ! Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: So many to include ! Posted by: 2thepoint
» RE: So many to include ! Posted by: ptoddchesser
» Nailed it! n/m Posted by: lefty010
» RE: So many to include ! Posted by: 2thepoint
Greed is bad
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 23, 2008 5:37 AM   
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The amazing thing is the fact that we have barely scratched the surface of what I believe will be the most insanely outrageous scandal in the history of human stupidity.

Where has the money that went to the bail out of the banks gone? They're not telling us. Why? Because the plutocracy is undergoing its final assault on America's social and economic infrastructure. All of this is happening under the guidance and assistance of the most criminally corrupt administration in American history.

I've said this on AlterNet more times than I can count but I need to say it again. I am in the minority as far as this opinion is concerned but I do believe it:

George W. Bush will be remembered in history as the first president to go to federal prison.

He will die there.

Sound crazy? Stay tuned.

Barack's Latest Preacher Problem

Tom Degan

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» Better still . . . Posted by: dustdevil
» RE: Greed is bad Posted by: 2thepoint
» I SO hope you are right... Posted by: lefty010
» RE: The BANKS are VERY bad Posted by: mythmorph
Bank of America - starring role in both #1 and #2
Posted by: Auk on Dec 23, 2008 6:03 AM   
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I've gotten the impression in 2008 there's a lot going on at BoA that should be better known.

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Ten greedy assh*les, ten bullets. It's time this kind of greed came with
Posted by: thekidde on Dec 23, 2008 6:18 AM   
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a price tag - elimination. Only that will get the attention of these bastards - we could always haul out a guillotine and save on bullets. It's terrible that humans have to resort to violence to accomplish drastic change, but that seems the only way forever.

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Rebecca A. Walter
Posted by: Rebecca Walter on Dec 23, 2008 6:46 AM   
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I just wanted to point out that this article is not about the top 10 greediest "people" - this specifically names 10 men. Just wanted to point that out so it's marked.

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Negotiating Wage & Comp OK for CEO's,but not Rank & File
Posted by: Purple Girl on Dec 23, 2008 6:53 AM   
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Repugs had better get their Story straight about their version of the Free market.
Sounds like the 'Nobles' can negotiate, Yet the 'Serfs' can not.
FYI Repugs...'Joe Six pack' has a Shelby Mustang sitting in his garage just waiting for his next check to buy the replacement hood scoop. Ya think Queens 'I'm in Love with My Car' was about a Toyota Corolla?
After this cakewalk Wall Street Bailout and the Torturous Big 3 Loan Extortion...the Repugs can Kiss Joe's Ass good Bye.
What W didn't scare the shit out of, or Bankrupt and McCain and Palin didn't offend, The Repugs in the Senate just eliminated from their voter base.
There are also plenty of white collar middle management who also had an old fixer upper in the garage,to go along with they HAD a Retirment Account, Had a College fund,Had a Job, Had a Home.
Cheney warned Repugs they'd be known as the party of Hoover again if they did not loan the Big 3 the money.In reality That was merely the final straw.The Repugs have been bleeding supporters since the hostile takeover of the Moral Majority.This failure to recognize Or acknowledge the social and psychological significance of the Auto Loan to Americans - labor or not ,union or not will be the Stake in the Heart of 'Trickle Down' economics. This 40 yr quest to conquer the American Way via Covert Corp Takeover, Under the Guise of 'Free Market' mantras has seen it's last throes of any consequence.
When the 'Free Market' only applies to the Upper echelon, it is NOT a FREE market. Its Feudalism .When the top are able to strive for higher heights in income and the average worker is forced to continually give concession,that is a Caste System.
The Updated Term 'Trickle Down' Itself is evidence of Class ranking,and Disparity in Access to resources.
Isn't it Ironic, We defeated a King George in Our Quest for Independence Only to be brought down by a George who successfully usurped US with the same Socio economic doctrine.
Any History book could be used as an indictment for Treason against any of these Repug 'Free' marketeers (Profiteers), Esp The Public Servants who took an oath to protect & defend the Constitution. Our Declaration of Independence was not merely directed at Merry Ol England, It was a Public declaration to the World community AND any Other entity which thought it could Rule Us..Religion or Industry.
Our Constitution was bore out of that Guiding Proclaimation...thus it too is a required adherence.
'We The People'...."For the People & By the People"....No mention of Kings, Popes, CEO's or even the 'Free Market'.
Repugs and some Dems should consider this Truth to be self Evident.The Market Place has been shown corrupt,unbalanced and has seized liberties guaranteed to ONLY American Citizens. To participate or allow such a thing to Take over our democratic free market is treason.
When Toyota has more influence in ANY state over the Interest of the American Citizenship, there is serious doubt about allegience by those 'Public 'servants...You are a US Senator, Champion on your State's behalf, but always pledge your allegience to the Nations flag, aka All It's Citizens, first & foremost.So ALL American Workers Causes Are YOUR Causes.

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dick
Posted by: rtmyth on Dec 23, 2008 7:11 AM   
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The greedy, who are also dishonest, unethical, and immoral, were enabled by the person most responsible for the outcome---George Bush. For details read the 12 page article in the NYT on 12/21/2008. For 8 years Bush thwarted all attemps to restrain and punish these swindlers.

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no surprise
Posted by: chloelin on Dec 23, 2008 7:51 AM   
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It's hardly any surprise that Patrick Soon-Shiong doubled the price of his monopoly drug. He's not in business to produce drugs anyway, but to make profit for his shareholders. If there was no profit in drugs, the business wouldn't run for the good of humanity - the shareholders would shut it down. Of course, given a bit of luck, Patrick can make a few gold bricks too.

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ba
Posted by: mnstra on Dec 23, 2008 8:06 AM   
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During the French revolution, when the elite were being overthrown.; there was a movement a faction of the revolutionary's that hated the king and ruling elite so much that they did something to dis- identify themselves from the trappings of the elite. The elite always wore coulots as a status symble of the power and position. This group took off their own coulots and wore just straight
trousers. They called themselves the "Sine Coulot" -Without coulots. To distinguish themselves from the greedy rich.We in America as a start to overthrow the elite should do everything we can to disconnect dis identify with the Elite/power hungry monsters from the trappings of the rich.Be really different.Get rid of credit cards, and debt.to start with.Get off the prescription drugs and so on. for a starters Any other ideas?

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» Lobsters in the Pot Posted by: season
getting away with murder
Posted by: littlepitcher on Dec 23, 2008 8:26 AM   
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The rumor that Ralph Roberts had one, possibly two, major political players murdered in an attempt to force deregulation of cable cannot be overlooked, except by the overimbursed junketers at the FBI.

Now we have another Roberts in the Supreme Court, so investigations of the murder can be quashed and so that regulations eventually can be thrown out the window.

It's not our government anymore, guys and gals. It belongs to media families who want to derail investigations, cover up news, and promote propaganda. Our last Presidential race involved two separate candidates from different branches of one well-organized criminal family. The electorate, bless them, did decline to elect the Roberts. 45 years after the fact, Ralph Roberts still has not deregulated cable. That much money, and he still has failed to gain his sordid goal.

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steve jobs??
Posted by: whalerwoman on Dec 23, 2008 8:36 AM   
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he's changed the face of computer/music/phone technology in a million positive ways. that he has been well compensated for his genius does not make him greedy. he deserves every penny he gets.

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I Disagree
Posted by: NoPCZone on Dec 23, 2008 8:39 AM   
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Steve Jobs has been underpaid- grossly underpaid.

When he came back to Apple as part of the merger with NeXT Computing, the company was months from the grave. It owed more than it's market cap, market share was in decline and the company was in a near-terminal death spiral.

Now the company carries no debt, is many times larger than ever and is worth over $77 BILLION in the middle of this economic crisis. When he returned to Apple it's market cap was about $1 Billion and they were in debt to the tune of 3x that much.

Steve Jobs is a Prima Donna and a pompous ass. He's also worth the money.

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» RE: I Disagree Posted by: Shehova
The list is incomplete
Posted by: willymack on Dec 23, 2008 8:41 AM   
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Without the inclusion of cheney/bush. Why do you think the "war on terror" is still going full blast, and with no end in sight? The war profits will continue to filter to them even after they're out of power. For obscene, pathological GREED, heedless of the terrible suffering of so many innocents, the bushies take first place.

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» The Bush Family Posted by: season
Steve Jobs???? Are you Kidding???
Posted by: adelaney on Dec 23, 2008 9:08 AM   
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You must have a chip on your shoulder about Apple. I see much worse greed everywhere else.

Steve Jobs at least is not a useless criminal parasite. He has contributed greatly to this and last century's innovations, to say the least. I think that kind of massive contribution to society deserves some rewards....oh yeh his plane costs...naughty naughty.

And where might I add is the greatest leach of all: Mr Bill (Beelzebub) Gates on the list??? He is a real criminal: stealing technology to implement mediocrity (windows) across the planet...now that is a real crime!! How about acknowledging his greed???? How much does this criminal get compensated yearly?

I think you should weigh the perpetrators' contribution against some kind of compensation rewards; otherwise we are all working at Wal Mart....grim!

Maybe you should take $1 a year in pay!

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Personal Security
Posted by: duckpondpotter on Dec 23, 2008 9:20 AM   
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Something tells me a lot of ex-blackwater guys are going to be making some good money protecting these bastards. With the masses of disgruntled people swelling in the country, the time is now on for these guys to be seriously watching their backsides on the street.

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Increased positive demonstration response
Posted by: lefty010 on Dec 23, 2008 9:54 AM   
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I hope the author is right about this being the end of an era. Maybe he is. I attend a weekly protest/demonstration. The sign I carry reads as follows:

IT IS OUR DUTY TO REMOVE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT-DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

and the other side says:

CORPORATE WELFARE-8 TRILLION-ME AND YOU-0-IT'S TIME TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK.

I have to say that the positive responses have really picked up since the tanking of the economy and more so in the last two weeks. I'm in Florida so there are a lot of retired Republicans here and the usual response is a mix of belligerence from this group along with some positive. But the older people are the ones who seem to be responding more positively now. An old guy with a veteran's hat on saluted me the other day. That's not a normal response here.

All of the response has increased as people seem to be paying a little more attention.

Well of course they would it's hitting closer to home.

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Rich and Poor
Posted by: rst2536 on Dec 23, 2008 10:26 AM   
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http://poemsonaffairsofstate.blogspot.com/

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One person's "Greed" is another person's....?
Posted by: zooeyhall on Dec 23, 2008 12:02 PM   
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This is where the Left and Progressives fall back on incoherent sputtering....

As if their indignation alone is going to change things with the bastards named in this article.

Until then, these guys are gonna cry all the way to the bank. And they will only serve as role models for all the other wannabies out there.

The guiding manta in the good 'ol US of A is "If it makes money, you don't make apologies!"

It's been manifest ever since Saint Ronnie got elected in 1980.

It's what every ambitious young MBA buisiness school graduate has at the root of his/her soul.

We need a 90% tax on income over annual $500,000 in this country.

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How about an entire "greedy system"
Posted by: foius on Dec 23, 2008 12:29 PM   
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Who can blame any of these men for their excessiveness in acquiring wealth? Isn't that what the "capitalist system" proclaims? It's time to change the system so that those of us in the middle/bottom half will eventually get enough wealth to sustain a basic standard of living. How will that happen...without a true revolution? Don't look now but we're overdue for this correction. Enough with the rich and super-rich. There will be no fundamental changes without fundamental sacrifices. Americans just aren't ready to make those changes. It will take much more real suffering and wealth depletion to affect fundamental economic reform in this country. Bernard Madoff for FED Chairman !!!

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double bitchin'
Posted by: sophia on Dec 23, 2008 3:10 PM   
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let's print the addresses of all these Wall Street thieves on the internet and their phone numbers. Let them start looking over their shoulders as they walk down the street. Let them feel the fear the rest of us are feeling as our jobs dry up and our security vaporizes. Let them be in touch with what their greed and avarice has done to millions of people.

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Good that D. Schar is on this list!
Posted by: msteng15 on Dec 23, 2008 4:20 PM   
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Schar is my good friend's uncle. Schar is her dad's brother. My friend's dad is in the county home due to poor health and no money. My friend's brother was born with spina bifida. My friend's husband is on disability due to severe back problems. Have any of them seen a penny from Schar? NO! My friend said when she was younger, she went to visit her Uncle Dwight and her cousins. They went out to eat at the nicest restaurant in town. Dwight threw the bones from his entree behind his back onto the floor!. He is nothing but a greedy bastard Beverly hillbilly if there ever was one.

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The author of this article
Posted by: Earthian on Dec 23, 2008 8:31 PM   
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Sam is a treasure. Check out his book Greed or Good. You can download it free from his website.

He is a great expert on the rich/poor gap and how to fix it.

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Thains house...
Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Dec 23, 2008 9:38 PM   
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have a look.

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/41035

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THE GREEDIEST BASTARD EVER!!!!!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Dec 24, 2008 7:40 AM   
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George Bush, good Ol' W. He didn't want your money .NO NO NO His greed cost us over 4000
lives for his family vendetta, millions of Iraqi civillians and given us the loss of fathers,Mothers,Sons,Daughters,Aunts,Uncles and Cousins we'll never get to know.

Yes Mr. Bush YOU are the most greedy asshole on the planet but your's was the greed for lives,not money,and the,Sir, makes you a poultroon of the highest power. Our greatest gift is to know that even you can't escape Death,the great eqwualizer for Kings and Paupers. Merry Christmas Wormfood

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This list is BS!!
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Dec 24, 2008 8:50 AM   
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Why am I not on this list??!!
I repair washers/dryers/ranges, etc.
I buy some parts for $6 and retail them for $25.
I have a mouse, two trucks, a Jaguar convertible, 3 boats, some stocks/funds/bonds and a house FULL of all sorts of collectibles, etc.
I charge to come out to a house and diagnose a problem with an appliance.
After that + a lousy 1/2 hour of labor time, I charge so much per hr for more labor.
I work a lot for cash, draw social security, get my health care from the VA and only work part time, when I actually wanna work.

WHY AM I NOT ON THIS LIST??!!
Don't I qualify because I am in business TO MAKE MONEY??

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» RE: This list is BS!! Posted by: melloe
Waaa!
Posted by: TheAntagonist on Dec 26, 2008 10:24 AM   
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What a bunch of jealous cry babies! If you think greed, drive, success, friends in high places, wealth are bad, go start your own 'Utopian' society where everyone always has the same amount of money and level of power as everyone else. Perhaps, you could start a society without any form of money, politics or gender bias - everyone will work together as one, there will be no leaders and no one will ever complain or scheme to make things better for themselves or their families. Everyone will be thoughtless and selfless.

All of you who bitch and moan about "these capitalist pigs", need a good swift kick in the ass and a few simple lessons in human nature 101 and psychology 101.

What fantasy world are you idiots living in?

Go smoke another bowl and bitch about how The Man has done you wrong on www.whogivesahit.com or www.craigslist.org/rnr/.

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» RE: Waaa! Posted by: zeek2
» RE: Waaa! I AGREE. Posted by: ds1st
Take Jobs Off this list
Posted by: mblockhart on Dec 27, 2008 9:39 PM   
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I strongly disagree with including Steve Jobs on this list. There’s nothing greedy about him. Is it greed just to be fabulously wealthy? Is it greed when your own board members bestow gifts upon you in appreciation for what you have done as a company leader? I don’t think so. I think it’s greed when you take from others what is rightfully theirs. He’s notoriously generous to the Apple employees, even though meticulous and driving as a CEO – it’s one of the best companies in the country to work for. He lives a rather spartan life personally – no hidden enclave for him. He doesn’t throw his weight or money around and donates to a number of charitable causes. He’s very capably lead Apple to produce outstanding products that everyone wants and a customer service system that is second to none. Is that greed? Yet, he gracefully claims that any of his top leadership could step into his job and do as well as he. I’m not sure they could, but it’s nice that he has that grace to say so. And some are concerned that he may be in ailing health – he’s a cancer survivor. Honestly, I think some of this Alternet bunch can’t separate their jealousy from the truth. That part of the list is just plain ugly. The others on the list I can’t disagree about. I’d add Blagojevich instead of Jobs.

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