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Wall Street Fat Cats Are Trying to Pocket Billions in Bailout Cash

By Nomi Prins, AlterNet. Posted November 7, 2008.


They got us into this mess, and now they want to cash out -- will President Obama stop them?

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The election results pretty much confirmed the extent to which Main Street is rightly livid about the Wall Street mentality that led to our financial crisis. During his historic victory speech, President-elect Barack Obama told supporters, and the rest of the world, "If this financial crisis taught us anything, it's that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers."

But, it seems that Wall Street didn't get that memo. It turns out that the nine banks about to be getting a total equity capital injection of $125 billion, courtesy of Phase I of The Bailout Plan, had reserved $108 billion during the first nine months of 2008 in order to pay for compensation and bonuses (PDF).

Paying Wall Street bonuses was not supposed to be part of the plan. At least that's how Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson explained it to Congress and the American people. So, on Oct. 1, when the Senate, including Obama, approved the $700 billion bailout package, the illusion was that this would magically loosen the credit markets, and with taxpayer-funded relief, banks would first start lending to each other again, and then, to citizens and small businesses. And all would be well.

That didn't happen. Which is why it's particularly offensive that the no-strings-attached money is going to line the pockets of Wall Street execs. The country's top investment bank (which since Sept. 21 calls itself a bank holding company), Goldman Sachs, set aside $11.4 billion during the first nine months of this year -- slightly more than the firm's $10 billion U.S. government gift -- to cover bonus payments for its 443 senior partners, who are set to make about $5 million each, and other employees.

Whereas Wall Street may not believe in higher taxes for the richest citizens, it does believe in higher bonuses for the head honchos. No matter what the market conditions are on the outside, steadfast feelings of entitlement tend to prevail.

Last year, when the financial crisis was just brewing, the top five investment banks paid themselves $39 billion in compensation and bonuses, up 6 percent over 2006. Goldman's CEO, Lloyd C. Blankfein, bagged a record bonus of $60.7 million, including $26.8 million in cash. That amount was nearly double the $38 million that Paulson made at the firm in 2005, the year before he became the Treasury secretary, a post for which he received unanimous approval from the Senate on June 28, 2006.

Two of those firms, Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, went bankrupt this year. Bank of America is acquiring a third, Merrill Lynch. Shares in the remaining two, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs, took a 60 percent nosedive this year.

Yet, that didn't stop their campaign contribution money from spewing out. Goldman was Obama's largest corporate campaign contributor, with $874,207. Also in his top 20 were three other recipients of bailout capital: JP Morgan/Chase, Citigroup and Morgan Stanley.


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Nomi Prins is a senior fellow at the public policy center Demos and author of Other People's Money and Jacked: How "Conservatives" are Picking Your Pocket (Whether You Voted for Them or Not)

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Stop Bonuses from Bailout Money .... Call and E-Mail Congress Today !
Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 7, 2008 12:14 AM   
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Zip Code lookup for your Senator and Congressmen ...

Say No to Bonuses from Tax Payer Money

thanks to Nomi for a very well written explanation of this rip off ...

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» NO TAXPAYER MONEY FOR BONUSES! Posted by: johnbradleycopeland
Consider this..
Posted by: Nodarse on Nov 7, 2008 1:14 AM   
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Question: If you need surgery to remove an appendix and the surgeon removes your ovaries, or testicles, instead? Would you then demand that your HMO give this surgeon $700B so he/she can “fix” the mistake, and hand you the bill?

I sincerely hope your answer is “NO!”

But this is exactly what the “Bail-Out” boils down to. The very people who caused this mess, are the same ones being given an outrageous amount of cash to “save us.”

Are you truly “shocked” that these thieves will now treat the funds we are forced to give them in an ethical manner?

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» RE: Consider this.. Posted by: weathered
» RE: Consider this.. Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Consider this.. Posted by: monkeywrench
» RE: Consider this.. Posted by: Von
Wall Street cronyism
Posted by: jon B on Nov 7, 2008 2:55 AM   
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This is the issue that Obama will have to answer to as to whether he is just another Wall Street enabler or whether he took their money for the election and intends to turn on them.

The direct line of cash from Wall Street to Washington has corrupted many a politician from both parties. I'd point out Chris Dodd as in the pocket of Wall Street as much as any Republican. A seat on the finance committee is a known position for legalized bribery.

Obama did indeed get plenty of money from Wall Street. I will be watching to see if in this regard Obama will actually be about change or business as usual.

He disappointed me with his vote on the bailout package. But, I will give him a slight pass on that because it happened at a crucial time in the election, his party supported it and that it was presented as something needed immediately. Basically the bailout was sort of a perfect storm in the middle of a fight to be rid of the Republican White House. Sometimes the bigger picture means more. Ultimately, it can be argued now, that Obama needed the bailout issue to go away quickly to defeat McCain and that it could always be revisited in other ways after the election.

But, I will be watching. No more kid gloves for Wall Street is what I'll be looking for.

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» I don't give him a pass. Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: I don't give him a pass. Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: Discordain Witch? Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: Discordain Witch? Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» RE: Discordain Witch? Posted by: Cybershaman
Did government control really change hands?
Posted by: jlohman on Nov 7, 2008 3:17 AM   
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Barack Obama now has the reigns, or at least he thinks he has.

The real power remains in the hands of the unelected special interests, the guys who fund the elections and never run for office.

The Republicans will retain filibuster power in the US Senate and will still control much of America’s direction, or lack thereof. Not by passing their agenda but by blocking that of the Democrats. But don’t you worry, they’ll still try to blame the Dems for not making progress. (As did the Dems when they were a minority.)

See the rest of this article at MoneyedPoliticians.net

Only ending political corruption will allow voters to rule.

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» You could be right... Posted by: photon's feather
» But I hope you are... Posted by: jlohman
» RE: That's the best chance we got! Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: you are so right Posted by: Lauren
» RE: I am you Posted by: Cybershaman
Obama shouldn't have backed the bailout
Posted by: suckerbeagle on Nov 7, 2008 3:36 AM   
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I don't know of a single person who was in favor of this, no matter what their political thinking about other things may be. The bailout was a powerful unifying issue for the American people. And even though Obama's campaign rhetoric was all about deregulation--and that helped solidify his electoral victory--he did the wrong thing on the bailout. The candidates and the media tried calling it the "Rescue", but this time the spin didn't work.
What we need most now is citizen action on the issues. The ACLU has a terrific program: Three things that Obama can do on his first day in office, and an excellent list of things he can do in his first 100 days.
Also, go to www.november5.org and sign up to get information about potential organizing in all the congressional disricts around the things we care about. It's not going to be that easy to have direct access to the new president, but our congressional reps are closer and we can make our case directly to them. The democrats in congress have been caving in to big business and wall street since they were elected two years ago with a clear mandate to end to occupation of Iraq.Now we're getting plenty of talk of more war from the new president-elect. Enough! It's time to put the heat on. www.november5.org
Jeanne

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» Nice! Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: The bailout has happened - new focus Posted by: left_libertarian
» RE: Reappraise! Posted by: Cybershaman
» No way! Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: No way! Posted by: left_libertarian
» RE: No way! Posted by: Cybershaman
John Arbo
Posted by: jarbo on Nov 7, 2008 3:39 AM   
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Glad to see Waxman is on 'em. Let's see how they try to wiggle out of responding. Wonder if his committee can subpoena these bastards...

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» RE: John Arbo Posted by: weathered
REVOLUTION ..HERE WE COME !!!
Posted by: ghost in the machine on Nov 7, 2008 4:11 AM   
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LET THE POOR BANKERS TAKE THEIR POUNDS OF FLESH...INEFFECT...LET THEM HANG THEMSELVES. ONLY THEN WILL AMERICANS REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SHAM OF THEIR ''DEMOCRACY''.

OBAMA GAVE THESE DEGENERATES WHAT THEY WANTED ...YOUR NOT GOING TO GET MUCH CHANGE FROM HIM...HE'S ALREADY SHOWING HIS TRUE COLOURS...JUST LIKE BLAIR DID HERE AND BROWN.

TIME AMERICA WOKEUP TO WHAT IS REALLY GOING DOWN.....THIS IS NO TIME FOR ANOTHER CLINTON.

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» EVOLUTION ..HERE WE COME !!! Posted by: chrysalis124812
» RE: VOLITION ..HERE WE COME !!! Posted by: popeurbanxxiii
» Please let us know... Posted by: photon's feather
BONUSES FOR LOSSES? BET I CAN LOSE MORE THAN YOU
Posted by: Bob Graham Las Vegas on Nov 7, 2008 4:44 AM   
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Anytime a bonus is paid when a company is going into the red is ridiculous. If a senior executive is hired to bring a company out of the red and the bonus is graduated on percentage over plan, I can understand it.

Compensation is not a sport and just because some have played it that way, at the expense of the stockholders does not justify the continuation of the sport.

A bonus is a bonus, compensation is compensation. Any company which has employees who were on board when the failure to make profits started or were occurring should never be paid a bonus for failure. After the company has broken back into profit and the bailout is repaid and shareholders start to see either dividend or value growth, then and only then should a bonus be paid.

Reward failure?? PLEASE hire me, I think it won't take long for me to figure that one out.

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pete
Posted by: villager1 on Nov 7, 2008 4:44 AM   
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Somehow we pleb's never seem to get it, do we? The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and those who make promises never seem to keep them.

When will we ever learn.

Greed and power is all that seems to matter.

It reminds me of the old cliche " be careful what you wish for - you may just get it!"

No one really knows what democracy is!
I am never disappointed in our leaders - they always manage to reinforce my rather low opinion of them.

I remember when I was a kid and we kids saw rich folks driving fancy cars and exclaimed.." I wonder what he/she does..wow!" Now the new saying is " I wonder what he/she is up to?"

Maybe I am just cynical but I am old now and I wonder if there are any folk (outside of the poor) who are really worth anything!

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» what they are up to Posted by: socialpsych
» RE: In the present paradigm. Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: In the present paradigm. Posted by: socialpsych
» RE: In the present paradigm. Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: pete Posted by: willymack
Who can save capitalism from itself? Not Obama.
Posted by: blogoffanddie on Nov 7, 2008 4:47 AM   
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Obama endorsed the $700 billion bailout of Wall Street – a bailout of the wealthy on Wall Street not the US economy. Obama speaks of change but reveals himself as just another corporate toadie.

Henry Paulson while an executive at Goldman-Sachs. made over 500 million dollars in pay, bonuses, and stock options. Maybe he could put the next bailout on his Visa card?

The bailout attempts will inevitably fail. The creation and then payment of the bailout debt (by the US taxpayer) will ultimately leave the taxpayer with less to spend, causing their economy to drop even further, resulting in more job losses, less investment and, once again, a further downsizing of the economy. This economic animal is eating its own tail.

http://blogoffanddie.wordpress.com

Remember your history people, if at first you don't succeed, destroy all the evidence.

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Obama- Appointing Federal Reserve Bank Elite to Treasury Head
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Nov 7, 2008 4:50 AM   
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Based upon the individuals who he is considering to appoint to head the Treasury Department,Obama will continue a policy of allowing the Federal Reserve Bank to dictate economic policy and continue to scam people in this country out of trillions of dollars.
The following is a short excerpt from an article posted on my website:
All of the leading candidates for the position of Treasury Secretary under president elect Barack Obama directly represent the old guard of the corporate elite system that has used the American economy as it’s engine to drive their march toward a global empire for decades.

Under the banner of “change” whichever of [2] these candidates is appointed to the Treasury will continue to rapidly expand the empowerment of the Federal Reserve monetary system and institute the very policies that have led us to the brink of financial ruin to move the economies of the world toward a centralized global banking system.

The Leading candidate for Obama’s Treasury Secretary is current Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York [3] Tim Geithner.
go to www.911insidejob.net

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reward and punishment-healing required
Posted by: chrysalis124812 on Nov 7, 2008 4:57 AM   
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kids raised by the means of getting a little prize for everything they do right and having it taken away as punishment for making a mistake end up getting confused into thinking that when you get rewarded it means you are good. It's vindication, proof of your personal worthyness. I think it's pretty sick, and it's having a deleterious effect on all of us. I suppose these folks deserve some level of compassion, just like anyone else. I would love to disabuse them of the notion that they are better by virtue of having more.

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» chrysalis124812 Posted by: socialpsych
no
Posted by: sicntired on Nov 7, 2008 5:15 AM   
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Obama was one of the architects of the bailout.He's as tied to corporate America as anyone.What you need is for someone to start up a movement to refuse to pay the tax assigned to the bailout.They can't arrest 45% of the American people and that's the last figure the polls said were opposed to being robbed by wall street fat cats.They're laughing at you.Make no mistake,they can't believe congress went for it.The fear card seems to mesmerize the congress and the senate.

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» RE: no Posted by: peacefullaim
BETTER DAYS AHEAD
Posted by: LikeSoup on Nov 7, 2008 5:34 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
“With every adversity there is a seed of an equivalent or greater benefit.” There is another way to having a positive personal and financial life. www.LikeSoup.com

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Obama is Snake Oil for FASCISTS
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Nov 7, 2008 6:08 AM   
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Always has been.

He's been in bed with Organized Corporate Crime Rule mobsters from the word go. On top of supporting the FISA spy state and 2 illegal genocide kill zones for Big Oil 9/11 "war on terror" Obama personally persuaded democrats on the hill to switch their votes for martial law Wall Street blackmail "bailout".

Anybody that believes this player is much more than a front and bagman for monopoly corporate Fascists is hallucinating.

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» RE: I hear you. Posted by: Cybershaman
Obama has been in bed with these fascists always
Posted by: vkobaya1 on Nov 7, 2008 6:37 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We should have known this because the corporations were behind him from the beginning. That is, look at the way they blocked Kucinich and anyone else who might oppose them. The corporate media bullshitted us with the massive amount of money Kucinich raised for his political campaign, telling us how many millions of little people contributed, but what they don't tell us is that vast amount of that money still came from the corporations and Obama was perfectly happy to be bought off by these corporations.

Well, 3 days after the election and we wake up to find we just bought ourselves another pig in the poke. Suckers! That's us ... again. With all the nasty smirks as usual for how dumb we are.

Obama is proving this already with his choices for his new administration. Change? Bullshit! (Used that word a lot for the Bush administration and looks like it will be just as every bit as applicable to the Obama administration.) Every one of his choices is the worst of the establishment, even down to retaining the most vile of the Bush administration. Look for this SOB to even bring back Gonzales as our Attorney General. If he doesn't, he is probably very deeply regreting that he couldn't.

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» Wack Left and wack right Posted by: Philip Newton
» RE: Where's the fun in that? Posted by: Cybershaman
steve
Posted by: Steve W on Nov 7, 2008 6:42 AM   
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Way ahead of you on this one. Excerpt from my newspaper column written wednesday to appear next Tuesday
"consider these items: despite massive losses, nine US banks getting $125 billion of our taxes have already spent or reserved $108 billion for employee pay and bonuses in the first nine months of 2008, almost the same as last year. Unlike other nations’ bail-out plans, ours doesn’t prevent this. According to Bloomberg Business News, Merrill Lynch, which has lost $52.2 billion, whose stock has fallen 70%, and was saved from complete collapse only by a Bank of America takeover offer, has, incredibly, set aside about $6.7 billion to pay bonuses. Even more amazing, some employees of bankrupt Lehman Brothers will get the same bonus they got last year.
This is probably just coincident to that. Washington D. C. lobbying firms got 500 new clients last month - right after Congress passed the $700 billion financial bailout bill. As a result, Washington lobbying revenues are predicted to hit $3 billion this year for the first time ever."

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rn
Posted by: mnstra on Nov 7, 2008 6:46 AM   
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I am sure with all that wealth the bankers went after Elliot Spritzer, because they knew he would prevent this robbery.
Money is power,The only way we will stop that financial control of our lives is to revolt. You are a fool to think a mainstream president will do anything positive where this bail out is concerned ,unless it is to benefit those bastards on Wall Street.Start by not doing any Christmas shopping this month.Do we all have any idea how damaging it would be to stop Christmas shopping? Now.

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OBAMA ISN'T THE PRESIDENT YET
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 7, 2008 6:46 AM   
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And as usual no one can ask Bush to do anything. He's busy working out or riding his bike. Obama has no authority. The Wall st. bonuses are written into contracts and if they aren't paid out there will be law suits for years. Some have already been bargained down by as much as two thirds. I'm not suggesting that we reward the people responsible for destroying Wall St., but this is a lesson learned at an exorbitant cost. Lots of them belong in jail, but don't hold your breath. Interesting that no charges will be made against Elliot Spitzer. No surprise there. He might name names and he's already been taught a lesson. Most of what's wrong can be laid at the feet of Bush & Co. who went unchallenged for 8 years, and who will walk away on Jan. 20 still thinking that he walks on water and with a small loyal following who still believe him. As one news reporter put it, "This was not an election, it was a revolution". That's true, the entire world was fed up with him and the American people finally woke up and did the right thing. Wall St. has always rewarded itself generously, but no body noticed. This is probable their last 'banner' year. They'll make a good living, the ones who survive, but the orgy is over.

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And they'll of course keep getting bailouts.
Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 7, 2008 6:54 AM   
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Seriously, not much has changed from this election alone. The corrupt system still remains intact and depending on Obama's cabinet pick, I'm not expecting chump change at best. Perhaps now would be a better time for all of us in our local areas to focus on better turnout for local elections which would in time give us better pols who give priority to Main Street over Wall $treet and for those of us on Main Street to quit exploiting each other and unite against Wall $treet.

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Should have let them crash,then Freeze & seize personal assets
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 7, 2008 6:55 AM   
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Taht Bail out should have been To US...Give US back the money they have been stealing from US through their Indentured Slavery pracitices.
Come on lay offs, factory closings, stagante wages, reduced bennies... and all the credit cards offers our mailboxes could handle, with ever increasing Outrageous Interest rates. We were Set Up...A Sting. And every one of these Banks and their Helmsmen are to be held Legally responsible for this Highe crime of Economic Terrorism.
Consider if we were all 'forgiven' our unavoidable debt.Who wouldn't do a little shopping (with caution).And What makes a economy go round....Consumption. Trickle Dwon was innately an UNAmerican system. That is the System of Monarchies and dictatorships- many of US have known this since the '80's when the bottom nearly fell out then.what is more treasonous than to subject the Ameircan People to a System which our Founding Fathers Fought to free themselves Of?????Every SOB who injected this poison in to our system of Free Market enterprise and those who have maintained it should be Hung!
Want to know why ever scummy SOB is now trying to get into Sen Obama's good Graces, so they won't be. Pres Elect Obama MUST seek immediate,Swift and merciless Justice for US to not only set things back on the right track, but to send a CLEAR message we Will Not Tolerate This form of Terrorism and Treason EVER again!
Freeze & Seize their Ill Gotten Gains and Hang 'em High!

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» RE: Be better than them! Posted by: Cybershaman
Ridiculous!!!!!!
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Nov 7, 2008 7:06 AM   
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This is Bushco's final gift to his cronies! ENOUGH!

The American people overwhelmingly decided on a different course!

It is now time to start the phone-call letter-writing campaign to Congress! They have to call a halt to these shenanigans! ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!

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» RE: Ridiculous!!!!!! Posted by: Zeugitai
» RE: idiculous!!!!!! Posted by: Von
I told you so! Didn't I tell you so? I fu----- told you so and a half!
Posted by: Nightstallion on Nov 7, 2008 7:17 AM   
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What part of I told you so don't these people get? The son of a bitch stood up drunk as a lord in 2000 at his inaguration party and bragged about how he was going to make himself and his friends rich.


I said impeach the bastard then! He used that goddamn office for is own financial gain. It was one of the things the founding fathers of this country warned against and some of us didn't get it! Fcuk You assholes! I told you then to impeach that smarmy mater fornicator.

Don't let him get away! Impeach that murderous malingerer and all his Cabinet and cronies for aiding and abetting! Don't be as stupid as you are: get smart and Impeach him!

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» Unlikely Posted by: Philip Newton
» Big talk - and stupid, too! Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: Big talk - and stupid, too! Posted by: willymack
What a joke
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Nov 7, 2008 7:22 AM   
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LOL, IS anyone REALLY surprised by this? hey, its a hand out, FREE MONEY, the rich get richer and the poor, well.... You know.

Jess
Online Privacy when it Counts

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If Obama doesn't impeach Bush and restore the constitution . . .
Posted by: Nightstallion on Nov 7, 2008 7:22 AM   
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Then impeach his ass too. There are laws in place that negate the constitution as written enforced by bush and his cronies. Eliminate them or lets have a peaceful revolution and just not do what the Fed orders in ANYTHING!

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Mr President:
Posted by: Philip Newton on Nov 7, 2008 7:34 AM   
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Mr President:

The degree to which you address middle class concerns is the degree to which the middle class will support you.

We are waiting -- and watching.

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» RE: Mr President: Posted by: peacefullaim
» Mr President-ELECT Posted by: leighsure
chicago politics in dc already
Posted by: ime on Nov 7, 2008 7:41 AM   
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A Democratic Congress passed the bailout to which these CEOs are banking from. A Democratic Congress lead by a Democratic President is the group that approved the opening of credit, yet we look to a 'new' Democratic Congress and new President-elect to 'fix' it...I somehow think not. However, I agree, the only way to do anything productive is bombard Congress members with opinions and such. I don't forsee it getting better. Specifically, big time Wall Street backing an Obama win with huge dollars.....

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Top Obama contributors are Wall St Fat Cat$
Posted by: DCostello2 on Nov 7, 2008 10:15 AM   
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If you think Obama is going to go against the very people who financed his campaign - think again. Goldman Sachs, #2 Obama contributor - $874,000+. JP Morgan, #6 Obama contributor - $580,000+. Citigroup, #7 Obama contributor - $580,000+. The list also contains UBS, $450,000+, Morgan Stanley, $450,000+ and I'm sure there are more. What do you think these folks are going to want for the Million$ they gave Obama?

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» RE: Access! Posted by: Cybershaman
Disconnect
Posted by: Zeugitai on Nov 7, 2008 11:21 AM   
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If you are outraged or indignant about this "bailout," you do not understand The American Way as it really is. There is a yawning abysmal disconnect between the reality of the "system" of America and the hype, propaganda, and pure bull-crap that have been extruded to feed the minds of its citizens.

This article is just one of many that affords a lucid view into the anatomy of America as it really is. Study it and its implications and take all this information to heart.

The citizens are nothing more than worker-ants with easily programmed minds, and in reality throughout American history, that is all they ever really have been; that, and willing soldiers, and willing taxpayers, and very willing consumers.

Why now do Americans feel outrage and indignation at something that has been occurring for all the decades and centuries of this nation's existence? The capitalists WILL take all of your money as they always have and they will continue to laugh and joke about you as they sip champaigne on their great boats or in the rooms of their castles and forts and penthouses.

There is nothing new here, it is only a bit more blatant and obvious now because the Republicans know well that people can do nothing about it and that only a few will bitch, and even they will soon find some opiate to still their emotion, and they will soon forget. Slather over the crime with patriotic propaganda! It works every time.

"Bailout!" It's a metaphor of a sinking ship. It has no connection to the reality of herds of swine filling Wall Street and chomping public dollars by the millions, and tens and hundreds of millions, and more. There is no limit to greed, and greed runs this country and always has.

What can a president do? If s/he intends to further the interests of the swine, s/he can do a lot; if s/he intends to oppose them, s/he will be eaten alive and buried under the swine-sh@t of character assassination for all of posterity.

Okay, back to your opiates, one and all, consume more of them...consume and try to forget...try to forget.

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» RE: Disconnect Posted by: Von
SeenItBefore
Posted by: LeaveMeAlone on Nov 7, 2008 11:27 AM   
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When I heard the prediction that if the bailout wasn't passed we would face another Great Depression, it frightened me. I thought it would be wise to pass the bailout, just in case. Then I thought, "I think I've heard this before." Only before, it was a mushroom cloud we were facing, not another Great Depression. But we were told, over and over, that the bailout would not be used for bonuses. They, the business executives, would never do that, we were assured. Now I feel like Charlie Brown right after Lucy had pulled the football out from under him again. Fucked again. Damn. Never, but never, trust the capacity of shame for these people. They have none. For these Ann Rand monsters, they never have enough. Success, failure, it doesn't matter. They are entitled to a fortune, every goddamn year, if for nothing else than sucking air into their lungs. They will gladly destroy this nation's economy for the sake of another ten villas in the exclusive vacation spots around the world. Greed of this magnitude is nothing less than evil. My God, will someone please do something.

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Yup!
Posted by: bobtr900 on Nov 7, 2008 1:12 PM   
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Republicans are once more feeding at the porcine trough of the taxpaying public, the little people. This must be what they call Pro-life and Family Values, they're feeding their Pro-Life style and their Family Values at the expense of everyone elses life and families.

Of course as we know, the republican party calls it deregulation or no regulation. While a lot of us call it just plain thievery, or economic terrorism.

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There Will Be A Reckoning !!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: foius on Nov 7, 2008 2:54 PM   
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Since our newly elected president will have to wait until next year before he can legally govern this country, there will be many Wall Street types trying to scurry favor with President-Elect Obama. Will they be successful? What will happen to those on Wall Street who have a significant presence in the Financial meltdown of Wall Street? It is my hope that President-Elect Obama will find the motivation to hold these financial predators responsible for their actions and complicity in the Meltdown by using the Justice Department to bring them to justice for the American People.

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The biggest backer of the Wall Street bailout was the corporate press
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Nov 7, 2008 2:57 PM   
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The political media reality is that if Obama had not backed the bailout, and McCain had, then Obama would have been attacked in the corporate press.

The public rebellion against the bailout that lead to its defeat in the House was very remarkable - despite an all-out push by the corporate media and the corporate wings of the Democratic and Republican parties, it went down in flames. A major factor was House members who were in close races - they suddenly were forced to listen to public opinion.

Congress and the White House are just not very sensitive to public opinion - they are very sensitive to the opinion of Wall Street, of the multinational corporations, and of wealthy trading partners like Saudi Arabia and China.

However, the bailout is just one of the last-ditch efforts of Cheney & Bush to pay off their cronies - the massive giveaways of mineral leases, the rollbacks of environmental regulations, the shady trade deals with Peru and the psychotically murderous military regime in Colombia (they've outdone the FARC in terms of random violence and ugliness, not an easy job)...

On the more positive side, it looks like Waxman might kick Dingell out of the controlling position on the Energy Committee - that's good news. If you want to do something useful, write your Congressmember and demand they support Waxman's bid - Dingell is a tool.

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Change who can believe in?
Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Nov 7, 2008 3:38 PM   
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I've been trying not to read anything, no news, no blogs, no email alerts, because when I see what kind of cabinet Obama is building I start to feel sick. If he hadn't nearly copyrighted the word "change" for his campaign, it wouldn't be so shocking to find that his watch will include Clinton and Bush reruns.

I'm one who isn't sure that there is a real changing of the guard here. I suspect the election was rigged for Obama this time, when I see what company he's keeping. I'm hopeful though.

Anyway, whoever hasn't might want to see the site I just found out about, Obama's official dot gov transition website: change.gov

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The NeoCon Chickens come home to Roost
Posted by: marid on Nov 7, 2008 3:39 PM   
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Ah Jimmy if only more of us had listened to you. Jimmy Carter of course. He thought about this exact outcome, warned us about it, asked us to wake up and sacrifice for the good of the nation. But no, we listened to the Snake Oil Salesman, Saint Ronnie Reagan.

Reagan's mantra of America is the greatest, best and will rule all, suckered the Average Joe and Jane with visions of Eutopia and the Land of Milk and Honey. He said we could continue to consume, spend, buy, use and prosper, spending far beyond what we could afford. I love the people who point fingers at the Dums, who were complicit but not at the core. 20 of the past 28 years have had Repug presidents, bought, owned, and controlled by the Corpse who are eating us alive and stealing our country and Billy Clinton was a moderate Repug owned by the same handlers.

Smaller govt, yea right, personal rights, yea right, stay out of other countries business, yea right. May the scales fall from enough people's eyes to save our country, the real mission of these people is destroy our govt by showing it to be imcompetent, which they have reinforced at every turn by electing and appointing failure after failure,"heck of a Job Brownie".

Look beyond the smoke and see the real damage and lies foisted upon us by these criminals. The Repugs have no economic policy but pillage and plunder both here and abroad. It was bound to end. Heh, and Ronnie was no shirker himself, tacked over 1.6 Trillion onto the National debt and enshrined the Military budget in a glass case to be worshipped, the savings rate dropped to negative, our export import balance fell to the negative for the first time and oil imports continued to climb. Was anyone paying attention but a few of us so-called nuts. Apparently not.

Mr. Obama, who I voted for, has an opportunity. Let's see who's side he is really on. I a hopeful, at least to a small degree, for the first time in decades. As always time will tell.

Conservatives my sweet ass. Oh and I call them Repugs because in no way do they represent what Republicans used to stand for.

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Lord protect us from the idiots tha pontificate as if they actually no something!
Posted by: Doyle Wheeler on Nov 7, 2008 3:53 PM   
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Bush the worlds largest theive has 70 more days with which to allow his rich Wall Street friends to steal from us.
Perhaps the Congress can step in and pass a law making it a felony for any of the Wall Streeters to take and use any of the bail out money. But for some idiot to try to pin what happens in the next two months on Obama is just a demo of their stupidity! That sounds like a great thinker like Palin would come up with something like that!

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Obama's Fundraising Is A Different Animal
Posted by: gradioc on Nov 7, 2008 3:54 PM   
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Several posters above have brought up the amounts of money donated to Obama's campaign by employees of various financial firms. In the past it might have mattered. If McCain had won, it would have mattered very much, McCain having been broke except for the fat cat bundlers. Obama, however, was financed by millions of $100, $50, and $20 contributions from ordinary working folks who want nothing from him but good government. In a way I have never seen before, and I've been paying attention for decades, Obama comes to the Oval Office beholden to nobody but the American people. I call that a nice change.

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Atleast obama has promised to retool american car industry
Posted by: avatar_singh on Nov 7, 2008 5:38 PM   
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which is very im[portant for reindustrialization of america. I think usa can survive better on her own efforts rather than looting other countrys' assets. and obama's' push for rettoling of motor car industry is first step towards industrializatiojn and abandonment of british inspired usury and money laundery centred stock market economy.
pressure has to be kept ofocurse by grass root movement to put emphasis on industry rather than finance and money laundering

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Let's . . .
Posted by: amazin on Nov 8, 2008 8:50 AM   
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Excuse me, but if we do the sensible thing and abolish finance, then it will mean that what the fat cats have in their pockets is just so much toilet paper, and in their banks, a bit of ink.

Now, why don't we do the sensible thing, eh? After all, if you think about it, it has never been anything other than one gigantic swindle since its inception five thousand years ago, has it? And its supposed 'value' is only what some crook decides at any moment to enrich himself and impoverish the rest of us.

So what about it? - Abolish?

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Deduct
Posted by: kimberlydeann on Nov 8, 2008 11:09 AM   
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For any corporation receiving bailout money, we should deduct any bonuses or golden parachutes they paid in the last year, and while we're at it, any contributions made to campaigns. And why, is there no requirement that these funds don't HAVE to be lent?

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Tax on bonuses:
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Nov 8, 2008 9:25 PM   
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Hostage taking and forfiture of bonuses for freedom.

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Things are not always as they seem
Posted by: Passacaglia on Nov 9, 2008 8:24 AM   
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It was too too obvious the country and the world was and still is fianacially bleeding. A tourniquet was imperative lest the entire economies of the world collapse. The vote was a stop gap action and it is not written in stone that it cannot be refined and made right. It did stop the immediate bleeding but as we see the bloodmoney is seeping through the bandaid. It will take time to coagulate and reshape the very complex financial world that the neo-cons as facilitated by the George Bush and company administration into what will be a system that is healthy and workable for all. It will take the cooperation of world leaders to do this, not just one man in the White House. Get a grip.

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Now I Ask You
Posted by: doneman2000 on Nov 11, 2008 3:51 PM   
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What other industry would reward its highest executives with 7 figure bonuses for not only destroying their own company but the U.S. economy as well? One outfit took $100 million three days before screaming we're bankrupt and rewarded their 5 highest execs with $20 million bonuses, each. I wonder what they would have made had they have run an honest investment banking firm? Frankly, I expected nothing different as the thugs who are looting the U.S.Treasury for their 8 figure pay packages are the same folks who, for profit, took their companies and the U.S. economy to the brink of destruction. What would you expect to happen if you threw a pile of money at a bunch of thieves? Yeah, they will steal you blind. We're talking about the same kind of people with the exception that the Wall St. clan wear $3500 suits, $15,000 watches, drive $100,000 automobiles, and spend alot of weekends at $5,000,000 beach houses. You can't let crooks have a key to the bank. They WILL take advantage of you. A leopard cannot or will not change its spots. Why should it when the status quo is so rewarding.

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» REMEMBER THE CEO SURVEY??? Posted by: reelman
Duping people with euphemisms like bailout
Posted by: Zeugitai on Nov 13, 2008 12:42 PM   
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This is not a "bailout," whatever a bailout actually is, if anything. It is a euphemism that hides the truth.

Is America a little sinking boat that we are all in together, or is it a horde of pirates on Wall Street and in Washington who are robbing people blind?

We are "bailing" buckets of our hard earned dollars, we who can least afford to give up our money, and selling our future, our children into debt-bondage, to pay these extortionists, and it all goes into the booty-sacks of these pirates who are threatening to sink our boat if we don't pay--and it most decidedly does not in any way serve to "bail out our sinking boat."

This is not a "bailout," it is good, old-fashioned piratical extortion: We are threatened and in turn we pay the ransom. It is economic kidnapping, if you must have a metaphor.

As long as you go on being vulnerable to metaphors and euphemisms, you deserve to get fleeced like a bone-headed sheep.

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» AUTO BAILOUT INFO Posted by: reelman
Taxation Without Representation
Posted by: FemaleVet on Nov 13, 2008 2:17 PM   
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LET'S NO ONLY BOMBARD OUR LEGISLATORS WITH MAIL & PHONE CALLS, LET'S NOT FILE INCOME TAXES AT THE END OF THE YEAR....
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! WHEN WILL AMERICANS WAKE UP?

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wall street isn't the only one ripping us off
Posted by: cori on Nov 15, 2008 4:36 PM   
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New Blackwater Iraq Scandal: Guns, Silencers and Dog Food
by: Brian Ross and Jason Ryan, ABC News
A federal grand jury is investigating allegations the controversial private security firm Blackwater illegally shipped assault weapons and silencers to Iraq.Ex-employees tell ABC News the firm used dog food sacks to smuggle unauthorized weapons to Iraq. A federal grand jury in North Carolina is investigating allegations the controversial private security firm Blackwater illegally shipped assault weapons and silencers to Iraq, hidden in large sacks of dog food, ABCNews.com has learned. "The only reason you need a silencer is if you want to assassinate someone," said former CIA intelligence officer John Kiriakou, an ABC News consultant. Blackwater Likely to Be Fined Millions in Iraq Weapons Case. Prosecutors are expected to return indictments in the next few weeks, according to people familiar with the case.
The investigation of the alleged dog food smuggling scheme began last year after two Blackwater employees were caught trying to sell stolen weapons in North Carolina. The two, Kenneth Cashwell and William "Max" Grumiaux pleaded guilty in February and became government witnesses, according to court documents. Two other former employees tell ABCNews.com they also witnessed the dog food smuggling operation. They say the weapons were actually hidden inside large sacks of dog food, packaged at company headquarters in North Carolina and sent to Iraq for the company's 20 bomb-sniffing dogs. Last year, a US Department of Commerce inspector at JFK airport in New York discovered an unlicensed two-way radio hidden in a dog food sack being shipped by Blackwater to Iraq, according to people familiar with the incident. In addition to the grand jury investigation, Blackwater sources say the company is facing a multimillion-dollar fine for some 900 instances in which it violated State Department licensing requirements for the export of certain weapons.

Of the 900 cases, about 100 of them have been referred to the Department of Justice for possible criminal prosecution, according to lawyers briefed on the case.

Last month, Blackwater hired a team of former federal law enforcement officials and defense experts that it said would review the company's compliance with export laws.
Another former Blackwater insider who talked with ABCNews.com said company executives made the decision to smuggle the weapons and silencers in the dog food "because it's a war over there and our guys need them." Despite four separate federal grand jury investigations of its operations, Blackwater's contract to provide security services for the US State Department was renewed earlier this year. The contract pays Blackwater $250 million a year.

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