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Alan Greenspan: Who Could Have Known?

By Dean Baker, TruthOut.org. Posted October 28, 2008.


Greenspan thinks that if the geniuses running the Fed couldn't predict the meltdown, nobody could.
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That's right, the former Maestro told Congress last week, when asked about the meltdown of the housing bubble and the resulting financial crisis, "we're not smart enough as people. We just cannot see events that far in advance."

Unfortunately, this sentence is even worse in context. Greenspan told the committee about the brilliant economists on staff at the Federal Reserve Board. His point was that if this group could not see the housing bubble, and the risks it posed to the economy, then it was not humanly possible to see it.


The reality is that it was possible - in fact, easy - to recognize the housing bubble as early as the summer of 2002. House prices nationwide had substantially outpaced inflation in the years since 1996 (coinciding with the stock bubble) after just tracking the rate of inflation for the prior hundred years. There was nothing in the fundamentals of supply or demand that could explain this run-up.


Furthermore, there was no corresponding increase in rents. Since people always have the choice to buy or rent, house sale prices and rents should rise and fall together over time, although not necessarily at the exact same pace. In the years since 1996, rents had only modestly outpaced inflation. And they had begun dropping in real terms by 2002. This was not consistent with house prices being driven by fundamentals.


It was also easy to see that the collapse of the housing bubble would cause enormous damage to the economy. Housing itself accounted for more than 6 percent of GDP at the peak of the boom in 2006. Today, it accounts for just over 3 percent.


More importantly, housing wealth provided the base for the consumption boom of this period. Research from the Federal Reserve Board and elsewhere shows that annual consumption is increased by 5 to 7 cents for each dollar of housing wealth. This means that the collapse of a bubble that eventually grew to $8 trillion would lead to a reduction in annual consumption on the order of $400 billion to $560 billion (2.6 percent to 3.7 percent of GDP).


In addition, housing is a highly leveraged asset. In normal times, buyers typically borrow 80 to 90 percent of the purchase price. Of course, housing became much more highly leveraged during the bubble with many borrowers putting zero down.


The heavy leverage in the housing market meant that it was inconceivable that a collapse of the housing bubble would not lead to serious consequences for the banking industry. I first warned that the collapse of the bubble would imperil the survival of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in September of 2002.


Greenspan would have been correct if he said that we are not smart enough as human beings to know when the bubble would finally burst. I did not expect the bubble to last as long as it did.


Of course, I did not bet on there being such a vast reservoir of foolish investors, not only in the United States but also in Asia and Europe, willing to buy garbage mortgages buried in complex derivative instruments. I also didn't imagine the Fed and other regulatory agencies would ever be so completely out-to-lunch in policing mortgage issuance and the practices of the investment banks.


But the basic story, that there was a housing bubble that would burst, and that it would cause enormous damage to the economy, was completely knowable to any competent economist long ago. The failure of the economists at the Fed, as well as the vast majority of the economists elsewhere, to see the housing bubble and to recognize the damage that would be caused by its collapse, is a testament to the failure of the profession.


Greenspan's claim that the crisis was not foreseeable is a cover-up for a profession that has badly failed the public. If factory workers or custodians had failed so miserably in their jobs, they would quickly find themselves unemployed.


Remarkably, in economics, the people responsible for this easily preventable disaster are suffering no negative consequences and, in fact, are still the ones designing the nation's economic policies. Economists believe that if workers are not held accountable for their performance, then they will not do good work. If economists are not held accountable for their performance, then we should not expect good economic policy.


Contrary to what Greenspan told Congress, "we" are smart enough as people to see asset bubbles like the housing bubble. If his "we" are not smart enough, as he claims, then the current group of economic policymakers must be replaced with people qualified to do the job.


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Dean Baker is co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.

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C'mon Dean ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 28, 2008 12:17 AM   
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Get to the core of the issue ...

Greenspan was a political hack that juiced the housing market for Bush's reelection in 2004 ... Just look at Greenspan's visits to the White House leading up to the 2004 election... 4 times as many as when Clinton was in office ... just about every week.

They don't call it the "Greenspan Put" for nothing.

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Volker v. Greenspam
Posted by: weathered on Oct 28, 2008 1:03 AM   
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Volker was Fed chair during the Carter Admin. both came under immense public riddicule as America was experiencing what seemed like hyper-inflation that had no bounds?

Paul Volker raised interest rates so high it called into question whether Congress could remove him as chair? Well Volker remained but inflation seemed to have been made more manageable?

Was it Volker's discipline, was he just lucky, or was he a figure that imparted confidence in others that he might just have integrity that wasn't easily compromised?

Then along comes Mr. Irrational Exuberance, while the biz press packaged him as a scholar and patriarch of old world discipline, we've come to find out under his watch he looked the other way when it came to the most critical part the game, unlike Volker, Greenspin's integrity was very easily compromised - we saw it w/the Dot coms, we saw it again w/derivatives and the mother of all dysfunctional financial instruments the Hedge(hog)Funds.
That's not good Al. Stay away from windows.

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» pale yellow your boy Greenspam Posted by: weathered
Bull Sh*t!!!
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 28, 2008 6:16 AM   
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Greenspan didn't really solve anything that had already been proven to be disasterous during the Reagan yrs...He just learned how to Hide the criminality better.
Trickle Down is Innately flawed to even the least educated student of economics.
It never mentions WHERE the 'liquidity' comes from to begin with. Then to add insult to injury they premise is that th etop will hold back the 'Liquidity' and disperse it in Trickles to those 'Below'...Sounds the the Basic Tennents of Feudalism to me- and always Has since it's rollout in the '80's.
Please Has Greenspan read no History books in regards to the Fall of other empires which had this Economic Caste system as it's model? Has he Never Read a book about What the reason was for US Declaring Our independence from England?
Greenspan along with his Cohorts and proteges KNEW exactly what economic system they were emulating. It has been their goal to control the masses just like Merry Ol' England had! FYI, the english Monarchy and it's stratified System is Innately UnAmerican and has perished even in England.
Greenspan et al should be prosecuted for Economic Treason, because he not only had forethought/Knowledge, the end results Proves malice.He was the Maestro alright, to the Swan Song of US!

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It's So Obvious!
Posted by: Last Chance on Oct 28, 2008 6:45 AM   
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Anyone who has made any sort of objective study of economic history can see that capitalism is a boom-and-bust system of rich versus poor -- anyone except those actively trying to accumulate huge amounts of wealth for themselves. They habitually delude each other to imagine the credit train will go on forever just for them -- and when the crash finally arrives, they scramble and scrabble to save their precious wealth and to hell with the millions of people who trusted them to be responsable leaders of industry and agriculture.

And now once again, the credit bubble has burst and millions are out of money and out of work. So, isn't it time for the human race to try a different way of relating to each other -- like cooperation instead of greed, equal sharing of income and labor in a network of eco-tech villages that grow their own food, build their own houses, sew their own clothes, plan their own families, home school their own children, recycle their own waste and carefully surround themselves with miles of healthy wilderness?

Capitalism's growth of human population and expansion of industry has nearly killed the planetary biosphere we all depend on. If we go through yet another cycle of boom and bust, we will find ourselves without drinkable water, breathable air, fertile soil and stuck eating chemically tainted or genetically engineered foods that cause all sorts of fatal diseases on a heavily polluted planet, and it's happening now!

So, for the sake of our own good health and the survival of our children and grandchildren, let's organize a cooperative society!

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Oh please, gimme a break.......
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 28, 2008 7:59 AM   
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Please, Greenspan has been touted as the "economics guru" for the last 30 years, if he hadn't been soooo infatuated with Ayn Rand and "Atlas Shrugged", he might have been able to anticipate this whole affair! His let's expand the "free market" to allow for the corporate oligarchy to run rough-shod and dominate the world mentality is part of the problem! If there is one lesson - it is not to let the police, police themselves-that formula has never proven to be winning for the whole!

These foxes that were in charge of the hen-house now claim that they couldn't possibly for-see this situation! The NERVE!!!
What these people don't want to see is that they put partisan ideology, and greed ahead of the better interests of the nation as a whole! These small corporate cadre of people would like for us to believe that they had no culpability in any of this - if you believe that I've got a bridge to sell you! What they don't want is to take responsibility for the massive failure that has been laid on the backs of the American workers!!!!!

Enough of the lies, deceit, and utter incompetence from them all!

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Derivatives deception is much larger than admitted
Posted by: SevenStarHand on Oct 28, 2008 8:22 AM   
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Our so-called leaders have raped us all repeatedly and now they want both forgiveness and alimony for several lifetimes!!

The derivatives scams alone have grown to more than 20 times the entire global GDP (at last counting) and are now failing because the scam/pyramid scheme broke and exposed the deception for all to see. A significant portion of global wealth and power was created and propped-up using these and other now-proven smoke and mirrors and house of cards illusions and delusions.

So, why should all of humanity be forced to suffer and struggle any longer, now that the entire global financial system has been exposed as a mind-boggling deception, within many other deceptions? No one in their right mind would continue to be enslaved by a proven deception, which is also proven to be undeniable slavery-by-proxy !!!

These deceptions have grown many times larger than the rest of the entire world economy. Consequently, there is no way that all of the world's governments combined, who themselves borrow so-called "money" from other central-bank smoke and mirror deceptions, can solve this debacle, by using more smoke and mirrors money scams. The only solutions they are offering will take centuries to repay, if ever.

Here is Wisdom...

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I can think of least two
Posted by: Einstein217 on Oct 28, 2008 8:37 AM   
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former Chairs of the CFTC Shelia Blair and Brooksley Born. Each was laughed out of discussions concerning swaps and regulation.

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The invisible hand...
Posted by: Crazy H on Oct 28, 2008 12:08 PM   
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Hey, Greenspan was right: Adam Smith's "Invisible hand of the marketplace" does work.

We're seeing the adjustment now. Enjoying the ride?

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Somebody changed the rules
Posted by: c.pergiel on Oct 28, 2008 8:24 PM   
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Somebody changed the rules for getting a mortgage some time ago, five or ten years. I have been trying to figure out who did it. Did one bank start it and all the rest followed along? Who proposed the changes? Who promoted them? That's what I want to know. We figure out how this happened and maybe a few people will learn something.

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