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Arson, Suicide, and Murder Mark the Economic Crisis, and We're Not Hearing About it

By Nick Turse, Tomdispatch.com. Posted October 20, 2008.


Violent reactions are bubbling up across the country to new economic realities.

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On October 4, 2008, in the Porter Ranch section of Los Angeles, Karthik Rajaram, beset by financial troubles, shot his wife, mother-in-law, and three sons before turning the gun on himself. In one of his two suicide notes, Rajaram wrote that he was "broke," having incurred massive financial losses in the economic meltdown. "I understand he was unemployed, his dealings in the stock market had taken a disastrous turn for the worse," said Los Angeles Deputy Police Chief Michel R. Moore.

The fallout from the current subprime mortgage debacle and the economic one that followed has thrown lives into turmoil across the country. In recent days, the Associated Press, ABC News, and others have begun to address the burgeoning body count, especially suicides attributed to the financial crisis. (Note that, months ago, Barbara Ehrenreich raised the issue in the Nation.)

Suicide is, however, just one type of extreme act for which the financial meltdown has seemingly been the catalyst. Since the beginning of the year, stories of resistance to eviction, armed self-defense, canicide, arson, self-inflicted injury, murder, as well as suicide, especially in response to the foreclosure crisis, have bubbled up into the local news, although most reports have gone unnoticed nationally -- as has any pattern to these events.

While it's impossible to know what factors, including deeply personal ones, contribute to such extreme acts, violent or otherwise, many do seem undeniably linked to the present crisis. This is hardly surprising. Rates of stress, depression, and suicide invariably climb in times of economic turmoil. As Kathleen Hall, founder and CEO of the Stress Institute in Atlanta, told USA Today's Stephanie Armour earlier this year, "Suicides are very much tied to the economy."

With predictions of a long and deep recession now commonplace, it's not too soon to begin looking for these patterns among the human tragedies already sprouting amid the financial ruins. Troubling trends are to be expected in the years ahead, especially as hundreds of thousands of veterans of the Iraq and Afghan Wars, their families often already under enormous stress, are coming home to scenarios of joblessness and, in some cases, homelessness. Consider this, then, an attempt to look for early anecdotal signs of the fallout from hard times, the results, in this case, of a review of local press reports from across the nation, some tiny but potentially indicative of larger American tragedies, and all suggesting a pattern that is likely to grow more pronounced.

Extreme Evictions

In February, when a sheriff's deputy went to serve an eviction notice on a home owner in Greeley, Colorado, he found the man had slashed his wrists and was lying in a pool of blood. Rushed to a nearby hospital, the man survived, while the Sheriff's office tried to downplay economic reasons for the incident, saying, according to the Denver Post, that "it wasn't linking the suicide attempt to the eviction because the man had known for a week that he was to be kicked out."

In March, Ocala, Florida resident Roland Gore killed his dog and his wife, set fire to his home which was in foreclosure, and then killed himself.

In April, Robert McGuinness, a 24-year-old process server, arrived at the Marion County, Florida doorstep of Frank W. Conrad. According to an article in the local Star Banner, the 82-year-old Conrad was reportedly "cordial" at first. When McGuinness produced the foreclosure notice, however, Conrad got angry and left the room. He returned with a .38 caliber pistol and announced, "You have two seconds to get off my property or you will go to the hospital." Marion County sheriff's deputies later arrested Conrad.


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Nick Turse is the associate editor and research director of Tomdispatch.com. His first book, The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives, an exploration of the new military-corporate complex in America, was recently published by Metropolitan Books. His website is Nick Turse.com.

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It Was Just A Matter of Time...
Posted by: Lily H. on Oct 20, 2008 12:55 AM   
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when events like this begin to occur. I, too, lost a
long-term rental when my family was ousted by the so-
called "owner" of the property. Did I consider
suicide? Though I came close, I knew I had to keep up
my strength to keep my children and I alive.
I probably came as close to having a nervous break-
down, but luckily I didn't cross the proverbial line.

As many have observed, the premise of "home-ownership"
is a long-ingrained facet of American culture, and
most Americans simply are blind to anything short of
that; that is, that someone somewhere has the "right"
to literally walk up to your home and force you out
of it, no matter how you've conducted yourself as a
resident/homeowner.

I"m not the least bit surprised that people are
committing suicide in large numbers. Unlike the
poor who have long been accustomed to the whims
and frailties of class hierarchy, the "new poor"
among the sinking middle-class are learning this
lesson literally by gun-point, even at their own
hand. I presume many of these same folks would
sooner die (literally and figuratively) than shop
at a thrift store, stand in line at a food bank,
apply for food stamps or trade in their trusty
gas-guzzling SUV's for a cheaper, less glamorous
vehicle.

What a pity - as I used to say to those one-time
middle-classers when speaking about poverty and
welfare reform to community groups, "Just you wait -
you'll be next". Looks like I wasn't wrong.

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» We're suffering from a Posted by: weathered
» RE: When the Fall is Not to Far Posted by: Purple Girl
Something positive in the bleakness
Posted by: sfortuna on Oct 20, 2008 3:45 AM   
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Agreed, we've only reached the beginning of massive economic dislocation and pain, which will result in more depression, suicide and substance abuse. But if we are to take anything positive out of this diaster it may be the death of America's consumerist culture. Finally the middle class may realize that everything being sold to you on TV is a lie, that no product or service will make you happy or healthy, and it is your job to protect your assets from the vultures who want to seduce or scare you into giving it to them. I make 6 figures and own rental properties, but still shop at thrift stores and find used products on craigslist and freecycle.org. As a result, I have no debt and many more resources to draw upon in a crisis. We save less than any nation on earth and throw away more products annually than most countries produce. We don't need cheap or toxic products imported from China if we can meet our needs in our local community via swaps, barter, garage sale, supporting local farmers and tradesmen. I'm trying to organize local engineers, merchants and craftspeople to create affordable local alternative energy products & services, which save money and wean us from evil utilitiy and telecom giants. The goal is to help families increase time together and connect to their communities through resource sharing, co-oping, bartering and talent pooling. Many Americans feel powerless and alone in our dog-eat-dog capitalist society and only by bonding together can we fill in the services gaps as governments rush to bankruptcy. Sure, there are situations like environmental health and infrstructure that only well financed government can handle, but who do you trust more to help in times of crisis: Fortune 500 executives, or your family & neighbors? It's time to get off this consumerist roller coaster and starve out the greedy robber barons whose speculation, short selling, hedging and derivatives have led to this house of cards. Buy less, love more & peace.

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As a country
Posted by: weathered on Oct 20, 2008 3:46 AM   
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we're suffering from low self-esteem. We're confronting a bankruptcy of trust and that's the greatest failure of all.

Pull the plug on all MSM and act locally.

Smash the denial, confront the truths and heal or wallow.
Arrest Silverstein/Bushcon.

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Perry's Noid Take on the crash of '08.
Posted by: Nightstallion on Oct 20, 2008 4:09 AM   
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All violent reactions to evictions,the state of being indigent, Vagrant, hungry or released from hospitals pennyless, will become Terrorism charges, touching anyone of the opposite sex without audible permission will become a sex crime. As will also touching people to get their attention, all these punishable by stiff prison terms and registry as a sex criminal. (In some states Washington state for instance this law already exists!)

Chasing dogs or cats from your premises will become animal abuse. Meanwhile, chastising a child in public for un-acceptable behavior will become child abuse, as will not doing what the child wants, over sane and rational behavior. Moving a child, yours or someone else’s against their will (removing the child from possible danger or from an adult movie), will become kidnapping compounded with sexual assault. Dog napping, will be pulling an at risk animal from the street.

Owning a gun after April the third 2011 will become a terrorism charge. Objecting to the removal of family heirloom weapons will become treason punishable by firing squad. Protecting yourself from the physical abuse of police will carry an on the spot death sentence.

Any one complaining about the loss of a loved one to police actions will result in the arrest of that person for suspicion of terrorist insurgent activities.
All people on the streets after 6:00 PM will carry proof of residence and a signed statement as to goal and purpose of being out after evening curfew. Any one on the street after 10PM will be subject to an FBI/Homeland Security check, and will remain incarcerated until the local Homeland Security Head Advisor releases them. (These retentions shall be indefinite and have no bearing on or subject to Civil Law.)

These things WILL happen it is only a matter of when, months, weeks, days or hours from right now!

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» RE: Perry's Noid Take on the crash of '08. Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
» RE: Sounds like England Posted by: Sushi
WallStreet should be Raining 'Brokers'
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 20, 2008 4:35 AM   
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But of course it's not, they have been granted more Gambling Money....so it is US, the Robbed, who will suffer th econsquences of this WELL FORESEEN AND EXUCUTED HEIST!
At least in '29 the assholes had the decency to JUMP so we would not have to waste more money prosecuting them .
Swindled Granny out of her Retirement...JUMP
Screwed 'Janie' Out of College....JUMP
Assured 'Janie' will Never Retire .....JUMP
Guaranteed Joe's 'Retirement' party will be held In conjucntion with his Funeral...JUMP
Undermined and nearly collapsed Our Entire Country....JUMP
Collpased Iceland....JUMP
Caused even MORE People Around the World to Hate US enough to attack US....JUMP
BEcause IF We get OUR Hands on YOU..You will have Wished You had.
Frankly since this Admin has made a career out of Re writing American LAWS...We may decide 'Cruel & Unusual' is now considered 'Enhanced' Capitol punishment '.

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No they won't
Posted by: luther6 on Oct 20, 2008 4:55 AM   
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The PEOPLE are stupid. They won't fight. They will be slaves. They want to believe that they will be taken care of. They'll remove themselves from being any trouble to the important people by suicide. They'll even take their families with them so no one will be too upset and maybe fight.

Listen, PEOPLE. Have you seen any real indication that either side in this election cares about you? You are the source of the money they steal. That's all. And they don't see it as stealing. It's your duty to give it all to them. First they gutted viable manufacturing and resource companies for their assets. Then they stole the savings and loan money. Then Reagan turned this country into the biggest debtor nation on the planet (before him, everyone owed us money.) And he's a saint. Then big banks began to eat the smaller banks and Social Security was used to run the government. If there's no money in the trust fund, it's because they've been writing IOU's.

No one is going to fight. They might bother someone important.

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» RE: No they won't Posted by: Von
» RE: No they won't Posted by: kegbot1
» RE: No they won't Posted by: mwhitley5562
Bank robberies are up, too
Posted by: socialpsych on Oct 20, 2008 5:06 AM   
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Thank goodness that bank deposits are insured by the FDIC!

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Darwin Award Season
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Oct 20, 2008 6:25 AM   
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For anybody stupid enough to allow themselves to be tethered to their SUV and their McMansion...

For anybody stupid enough to not recognize the system we're under...

For anybody stupid enough to not be willing to learn how the system works and how to survive in it...

You had all the chance to do something with your life, but instead you bought the propaganda. And your life feels worthless because of it. I've known people who committed suicide because they felt trapped in a system that was rigid, corrupt and decadent, and felt they had no power to change it. And they would rather die than perpetuate the fraud. I feel sad for those people, because they were the ones who had the most power to change it, if only they knew how to wield it.

But then there's this other group... the people who live their whole lives absorbing the frauds and the lies shown to them on the idiot box... those people who experience mortal terror at just the thought of actually having to face their own conscience or any thought of introspection or any other kind of spiritual awakening... for those people, all I can offer is Jack Kevorkian's number. Like Gandalf said "Throw yourself in next time, and rid us of your stupidity!"

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» RE: Darwin Award Season Posted by: weathered
» RE: Darwin Award Season Posted by: kegbot1
» You have to play the game in order to change it Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» Again, Buffett's performance Posted by: weathered
Been Around the Block
Posted by: fmcevoy on Oct 20, 2008 6:57 AM   
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Make suicide legitimate.

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» RE: Been Around the Block Posted by: richholland
I never understood why these people kill themselves
Posted by: lindat on Oct 20, 2008 7:08 AM   
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and their loved ones. Kill the people who did this to you!

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this is all so sad
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Oct 20, 2008 7:33 AM   
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Reading these stories of desperation makes me sad indeed.

I have been extremely broke since I laid out a bunch of quarters on an attorney's desk in order to divorce my brutally abusive, psychopathic husband.

That was almost 15 years ago.

I worked two jobs, but was still always broke since the jobs didn't pay all that much.

Being broke is not fun, but it is certainly not worth suicide.

I have learned to be gloriously happy in spite of being broke.

Right now, I am destitute and living with a friend. I lost my house and sold virtually everything I owned. Luckily, I was able to sell the house 2 weeks before the foreclosure auction.

I am still happy and am able to laugh a lot.

I wish I could somehow magically spread the ability to be happy in spite of life around.

I can not perform such magic of course but I can encourage other people to learn to appreciate the simple things.

I am grateful that I can still breath. I can still walk. (I have had health issues that made walking nearly impossible. Thankfully I was able to overcome them.)

I can still listen to music. I have friends who will laugh with me. Beans are good for me! My daughter grew up on beans and is now a happy vegan.

One $4 pot of bean soup can last nearly a week!

Life is indeed hard but it doesn't mean you can not be happy, in spite of it all.

I am also grateful for the fact that no one is beating me senseless today. I do not even have anyone yelling at me.

Little things. My dog hugs me. The sunset is pretty.

Prozac and weed help too......

Peace and love to you all. You can get through this.

Luv,
granny

Granny's crazy videos = Go get a chuckle!

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» RE: this is all so sad Posted by: Grandma Crabby
» RE: this is all so sad Posted by: songbird1268
» RE: this is all so sad Posted by: Grandma Crabby
» RE: this is all so sad Posted by: willymack
» RE: this is all so sad Posted by: Grandma Crabby
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» RE: this is all so sad Posted by: Grandma Crabby
» RE: this is all so sad Posted by: TripleFire
» My heart is with you Posted by: Grandma Crabby
Vehicle Arsons Up
Posted by: snax on Oct 20, 2008 7:38 AM   
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I don't have any statistics to refer to, but I work near an auto auction yard where they sell off the majority of insurance totalled vehicles, and in the last couple of months there has been a noticeable upswing in vehicles being hauled in burned out. I have my doubts that 'defects' are responsible for the recent surge.

Expect property insurance fraud to be a major concern in the coming year.

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Somehow,it's all okay, or so we are expected to believe. And why?
Posted by: bobtr900 on Oct 20, 2008 8:29 AM   
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The author commented on the homeless vet. But we all know there is no such thing. And we know that because Bill O'Reilly says so.

And as we all know, all of this economic devastation is perfectly alright because no fetuses are involved, only the living are dying. So once again it's profits as usual, and death for profits is the order of the day. But that's okay too because no fetuses are involved, or so they say.

MSNBC and their friends at Fox will never admit to anything, just as long as their fetuses are supposedly okay. And of course no 'social engineering' (code for taking care of people, the living) is allowed, Rethugs never allow that to occur. That is just too much like socialism and communism and we can't have that as it gets in the way of profits and greed.

Killing for Oil company profits is perfectly okay as no fetuses are dying. How do I know that, because the Catholic Church, my religion, says so. Once again the living can be killed for profits as long as the fetus is okay, or is it. Hmmm.

Some where, I once learned that the health of the mother directly affects the fetus. I wonder if the Pope knows that. Hmmm. But then to him that is okay because he supports the Repub party and their endless quest for profits. It's all okay just as long as the fetus is okay, or is it?

The fetus, gay bashing and profits make it all okay.

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This is happening because...
Posted by: fearn on Oct 20, 2008 10:26 AM   
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America has become a country where the people don't really help each other. They don't understand that it is the job of a good government to help the people. They don't understand that there is only so much money and that if hundreds of Americans have billions then millions will suffer.
Instead of a few people protesting an eviction there should be thousands, get organized. If your government puts war ahead of the people change it. If some people in your country have billions and pay a lower rate of tax than you do then elect a fair minded expert. They do run for office but most Americans are too ignorant and brainwashed to vote for them.

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» RE: This is happening because... Posted by: richholland
Suicide? No way!
Posted by: Archie1954 on Oct 20, 2008 10:29 AM   
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I have always considered money as something to spend and I have loved spending it. Because of the current economic crisis, my portfolio quickly decreased from $750,000 to $46,000. That is a lot of decrease! It may end up putting my house of 24 years in jeopardy, but the way I look at it is I have brought my family up in this house. I bought it for location being in the nicest area in town with a beautiful view over the city and harbor and for the terrific schools nearby. The kids went to both elementary and high schools in the neighbourhood and had friends from the upper echelons of society. They then went on to university and graduated as engineers. Now with the youngest 23 and the eldest 25 I really don't care if we have to sell the house. I only lived here to provide the kind of ambience I felt the kids needed to assure their desire to live the same way which meant instilling the requirement for lots of hard work in them. That proved the right thing to do but now it has served its purpose. As for me, sure I loved living in a beautiful house in the right neighbourhood but I will enjoy wherever I end up living. No problem

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» RE: Suicide? No way! Posted by: northofthecity
» RE: Suicide? No way! Posted by: J_Mo
Sad stories, comparable to times of Depression era
Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 20, 2008 11:11 AM   
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Dumb people though won't learn.

Apparently, McCain's spin on Joe the plumber is getting tracktion with the white male blue collar workers.

No redemption for morons who vote against their own interests.

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The REAL U.S. Family Values:
Posted by: arieden on Oct 20, 2008 12:46 PM   
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"We value our predatory financial system more than the well-being or your family.
(GOP to all the "regular Joe Six-packs - or Plumbers who were stupid enough to vote for them: Drop Dead)

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Just let it go....
Posted by: reelectnoone on Oct 20, 2008 12:53 PM   
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I have decided to "walk away" and let the mortgage company take my property. In the process I will lose my credit so am also filing bankruptcy. Would I shoot myself over this? No. I will actually be relieved. No longer facing the stress of wondering how I will pay the mortgage and the credit cards. I receive social security and have a small business. I will be better off once I learn to just let it go.

Still I wonder at what cost do police and banks force an eviction? Is someone expected to die in order to take possession of a house? These stories remind me of Waco Texas and the "win at any cost" mentality of law enforcement.

I used to be a cop. I would walk away myself rather than shoot someone who would not leave their home. That home now matter how grand or meager is not worth taking someone's life over, especially just to hand it to one of the mortgage companies who contributed to this mess and probably received part of the $700 Billion Bail out.

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» RE: Just let it go.... Posted by: kegbot1
» RE: Just let it go.... Posted by: northofthecity
What is canicide?
Posted by: helenahanbasquet on Oct 20, 2008 2:00 PM   
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I can't find it in the dictionary. Does it mean killing your dog?

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» RE: What is canicide? Posted by: helenahanbasquet
This civilization (I don't mean America, and I don't mean just the West) needs to go down in flames
Posted by: blogbooks on Oct 20, 2008 2:11 PM   
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At this point we have tainted most of humanity.

Let it all burn.

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WELCOME TO BUSH'S OWNERSHIP SOCIETY
Posted by: cori on Oct 20, 2008 3:24 PM   
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IF BARACK DOESN'T GET IN WE ARE DOOMED

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» RE: WELCOME TO BUSH'S OWNERSHIP SOCIETY Posted by: northofthecity
Follow the example
Posted by: akbirdwm on Oct 20, 2008 3:41 PM   
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Americans, especially white, middle class, Americans who have been in the country for generations need to take lessons from our immigrant friends who came here from their own oppressed countries. We need to give up the entitlement mentality. The World does not Owe us a Living! That means quit spending on anything that isn't absolutely necessary - and then only buy used or make your own. Combine incomes and living areas with extended families. Work with less in order to make more for all. Embrace Sustainability and self-sufficiency. Here in Alaska we have large communties of Russian Old Believers. Several extended families live together, purchase a large block of land and then help each other build houses on the land. Some of the nicest houses in the area are built by these hard working, peaceful people. (And I'm amazed at the level of animosity from some folks towards these industrious people. Jealousy perhaps?) And their yards are full of potato patches and cords of firewood. How many of us know hard working Asian or Latino families that do the same? For too long, Americans have lived by the saying, "whoever dies with the most toys wins". Americans must find a better paradigm to follow. And necessity is the mother of all inventions. As my crazy Grandmother used to say, "It's time to shit or get off the pot!"

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Welcome to my world......
Posted by: eosrk on Oct 20, 2008 6:00 PM   
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As a Black person, I was experiencing this way before the economy collasped....so while wall street is burning up due to its own greed and short-sightedness....and white people losing their everything, including themselves...I just keep on going,going,going!!!

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CommonDreamer
Posted by: CommonDreamer on Oct 20, 2008 7:56 PM   
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And they call themselves the party of "family values". Wow. No party has been more responsible for the destruction of society, families, and worker's wealth than this one. And yet, the election is still close! Is there any hope for this clueless country? Now be good little citizens, drink the koolaid over and over....keep losing your homes, your pensions, your jobs - but by God, vote for "freedom" (freedom from fairness, helpful social programs, sane regulation) and instead choose repressive patriotism! No socialism! Go broke paying for your healthcare - but live free as a capitalist until you die from not being able to afford anything (because you're too busy working all your life and too broke from supporting the wealthy nanny state). Way to go, family values America!

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» RE: CommonDreamer Posted by: richholland
» RE: CommonDreamer Posted by: CommonDreamer
Why doesn't someone try to take out Bush instead of suicide
Posted by: common intelligence on Oct 20, 2008 7:58 PM   
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I mean if you're bound to do your self in why not take out the bastard whom is at the head of this sinking ship? Take out the teives and the pirates not yourself.

Have no guilt for not meeting up with a false systems failures. It's not your fault. You didn't create the system that is responsible. But you are responsible for not making those responsible accountable!

Anyone that has attached so much of their identity with their "stuff" and to a "dream" is screwed up to begin with.

Sorry they all had so much invested in trusting the government to support their stupidity by buying into the monetary lies that have been forced upon the public for so long. LIes of a "money backed by NOTHING. But then of course most of those that buy into the system as it is have no clue as to way it's screwed up because you don't take the time to understand the history of the swindle.

WHat is happening right now is that the system is doing everything it can to perpetuate the illusion and avoid being made accountable. And as for those that believe those doing it have their best interests in mind...........well face the music.

The only thing "they" are doing is the shell and pea game.
Don't fall for the lies and face personal economic reality.
Then those with dismal views can start to heal and laugh at the whole
crazy ones that continually steal from "Peter to pay Paul".

True wealth has nothing to do with having stuff, whether it be homes or jobs or material possessions.

Peacfully abiding in the moments as they pass will give greater contentment than a thousand new Farrari's or trips to Disney World.

Give to others all you can without want of reward is the True compassionate approach to living. for anyone to kill themself tinking they will end it all is the dummies ways of thinking. Just as it is to fall prey to the lying thieving bastards that lead you to believe "if you work hard and long you will benefit by your efforts in the end" ....well that's only if YOU controll your personal finances; and that's no guarantee as long as the monetry system is based on DEBT!

DEBT is slavery. When are you people going to get it?

NOW for those contimplating doing something bad to youself or an inanimate object....DOn't waste your efforts . it will have no affect.

Select your target with calculated h brilliance.
Oh, and "let go of your attachments" that is freedom.

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These stories
Posted by: J_Mo on Oct 23, 2008 12:30 PM   
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These stories make me so sad and angry. The stories of neighbors coming to the aid and blockading for their victimized neighbors inspire me. I would do that for my neighbors, too.

We should be standing up for not only ourselves, but others around us. We need each other to be strong.

Every day I give thanks for what I have, for I realize that it's all so ephemaral any more.

My household is doing everything we can to pare down, simplify, and live more independently of the system. The system is poison.

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addie polk
Posted by: kittybrat on Oct 25, 2008 11:31 AM   
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http://www.ohio.com/news/30240349.html

later Kucinich used her as an example while testifying before congress on the foreclosure bill

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Double Jeopardy for the Ruling Class
Posted by: susan rosenthal1 on Oct 26, 2008 4:14 PM   
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Capitalism is throwing people's lives into crisis and also refusing to fund the social workers, medics and counselors who contain such problems by individualizing them. That's a dangerous combination!

An injury to one is an injury to all.

We need to publicize each and every outrage, and direct our anger where it belongs -- against a capitalist system that profits from human misery. Solidarity is the best medicine.

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FOR THE LOVE OF BANKERS ~ HISTORICAL QUOTES
Posted by: Noor on Oct 27, 2008 8:51 AM   
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“GIVE ME CONTROL OF A NATION'S MONEY AND I CARE NOT WHO MAKES THE LAWS.” - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

"IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVER ALLOW PRIVATE BANKS TO CONTROL THE ISSUE OF THEIR CURRENCY, FIRST BY INFLATION, THEN BY DEFLATION, THE BANKS WILL DEPRIVE THE PEOPLE OF ALL PROPERTY UNTIL THEIR CHILDREN WAKE-UP HOMELESS ON THE CONTINENT THEIR FATHERS CONQUERED. THE ISSUING POWER SHOULD BE TAKEN FROM THE BANKS AND RESTORED TO THE PEOPLE, TO WHOM IT PROPERLY BELONGS". - Thomas Jefferson

“Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to accidental opinion of the day, but A SERIES OF OPPRESSIONS, BEGUN AT A DISTINGUISHED PERIOD AND PURSUED UNALTERABLY THROUGH EVERY CHANGE OF ADMINISTRATION, PLAINLY PROVES A DELIBERATE SYSTEMATIC PLAN TO REDUCE US TO SLAVERY.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.~ Cicero

“I believe that if the people of this nation knew what Congress has done to them over the past 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election. It adds up to A PRECONCEIVED PLAN TO DESTROY THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE OF THE UNITED STATES.” ~ Sen. George Malone, 1957

“THE REAL TRUTH OF THE MATTER AS YOU AND I KNOW IT IS THAT A FINANCIAL ELEMENT IN THE LARGER CENTERS HAS OWNED THE GOVERNMENT SINCE ANDREW JACKSON.” ~ FDR

“You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the eternal God, I shall rout you out. IF THE PEOPLE ONLY UNDERSTOOD THE RANK INJUSTICE OF OUR MONEY AND BANKING SYSTEM, THERE WOULD BE A REVOLUTION BEFORE MORNING.” ~ Andrew Jackson

“It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” ~ Henry Ford

“BANKING WAS CONCEIVED IN INIQUITY AND WAS BORN IN SIN. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, IF YOU WISH TO REMAIN THE SLAVES OF BANKERS AND PAY THE COST OF YOUR OWN SLAVERY, LET THEM CONTINUE TO CREATE DEPOSITS”. - Sir Josiah Stamp

“The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the PEOPLE VERSUS THE BANKS”. Lord Acton discussing Illuminati banker Rothschild.

“HISTORY RECORDS THAT THE MONEY CHANGERS HAVE USED EVERY FORM OF ABUSE, INTRIGUE, DECEIT, AND VIOLENT MEANS POSSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR CONTROL OVER GOVERNMENTS BY CONTROLLING THE MONEY AND ITS ISSUANCE.”- James Madison

“THESE ARE THE MEN WHO, WITHOUT VIRTUE, LABOUR, OR HAZARD, ARE GROWING RICH, AS THEIR COUNTRY IS IMPOVERISHED; they rejoice, when obstinacy or ambition adds another year to slaughter and devastation; and laugh, from their desks, at bravery and science, while they are adding figure to figure, and cipher to cipher, hoping for a new contract from a new armament, and computing the profits of a siege or tempest.” Samuel Johnson

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In the end...
Posted by: Ethical1 on Oct 27, 2008 12:06 PM   
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The devastation that this situation has created will one day be measured. This is just a fraction of the cost. Elderly pushed from the homes they have had their entire lives can result in early death as it did with my mother. Children facing uncertain futures who watch their parents go through the emotionally tough experience will change from good students to uninterested and angry kids. I can imagine there are other ways this will negatively affect our society which others have experienced such as divorce etc. that will all need to be collectively measured to see the true cost of this debacle.

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