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Bailout Passes Senate; 9 Reasons That's Bad News for You

By Sen. Bernie Sanders, Huffington Post. Posted October 1, 2008.


Forcing each American to fork over $2,200 at a time when median family income has declined by as much is no way to improve the economy.
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This country faces many serious problems in the financial market, in the stock market, in our economy. We must act, but we must act in a way that improves the situation. We can do better than the legislation now before Congress.

This bill does not effectively address the issue of what the taxpayers of our country will actually own after they invest hundreds of billions of dollars in toxic assets. This bill does not effectively address the issue of oversight because the oversight board members have all been hand picked by the Bush administration. This bill does not effectively deal with the issue of foreclosures and addressing that very serious issue, which is impacting millions of low- and moderate-income Americans in the aggressive, effective way that we should be. This bill does not effectively deal with the issue of executive compensation and golden parachutes. Under this bill, the CEOs and the Wall Street insiders will still, with a little bit of imagination, continue to make out like bandits.

This bill does not deal at all with how we got into this crisis in the first place and the need to undo the deregulatory fervor which created trillions of dollars in complicated and unregulated financial instruments such as credit default swaps and hedge funds. This bill does not address the issue that has taken us to where we are today, the concept of too big to fail. In fact, within the last several weeks we have sat idly by and watched gigantic financial institutions like the Bank of America swallow up other gigantic financial institutions like Countrywide and Merrill Lynch. Well, who is going to bail out the Bank of America if it begins to fail? There is not one word about the issue of too big to fail in this legislation at a time when that problem is in fact becoming even more serious.

This bill does not deal with the absurdity of having the fox guarding the hen house. Maybe I'm the only person in America who thinks so, but I have a hard time understanding why we are giving $700 billion to the Secretary of the Treasury, the former CEO of Goldman Sachs, who along with other financial institutions, actually got us into this problem. Now, maybe I'm the only person in America who thinks that's a little bit weird, but that is what I think.

This bill does not address the major economic crisis we face: growing unemployment, low wages, the need to create decent-paying jobs, rebuilding our infrastructure and moving us to energy efficiency and sustainable energy.

There is one issue that is even more profound and more basic than everything else that I have mentioned, and that is if a bailout is needed, if taxpayer money must be placed at risk, whose money should it be? In other words, who should be paying for this bailout which has been caused by the greed and recklessness of Wall Street operatives who have made billions in recent years?

The American people are bitter. They are angry, and they are confused. Over the last seven and a half year, since George W. Bush has been President, 6 million Americans have slipped out of the middle class and are in poverty, and today working families are lining up at emergency food shelves in order to get the food they need to feed their families. Since President Bush has been in office, median family income for working-age families has declined by over $2,000. More than seven million Americans have lost their health insurance. Over four million have lost their pensions. Consumer debt has more than doubled. And foreclosures are the highest on record. Meanwhile, the cost of energy, food, health care, college and other basic necessities has soared.

While the middle class has declined under President Bush's reckless economic policies, the people on top have never had it so good. For the first seven years of Bush's tenure, the wealthiest 400 individuals in our country saw a $670 billion increase in their wealth, and at the end of 2007 owned over $1.5 trillion in wealth. That is just 400 families, a $670 billion increase in wealth since Bush has been in office.

In our country today, we have the most unequal distribution of income and wealth of any major country on earth, with the top 1 percent earning more income than the bottom 50 percent and the top 1 percent owning more wealth than the bottom 90 percent. We are living at a time when we have seen a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the very wealthiest people in this country, when, among others, CEOs of Wall Street firms received unbelievable amounts in bonuses, including $39 billion in bonuses in the year 2007 alone for just the five major investment houses. We have seen the incredible greed of the financial services industry manifested in the hundreds of millions of dollars they have spent on campaign contributions and lobbyists in order to deregulate their industry so that hedge funds and other unregulated financial institutions could flourish. We have seen them play with trillions and trillions dollars in esoteric financial instruments, in unregulated industries which no more than a handful of people even understand. We have seen the financial services industry charge 30 percent interest rates on credit card loans and tack on outrageous late fees and other costs to unsuspecting customers. We have seen them engaged in despicable predatory lending practices, taking advantage of the vulnerable and the uneducated. We have seen them send out billions of deceptive solicitations to almost every mailbox in America.


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For All The Good It Will Do You
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Oct 1, 2008 10:00 PM   
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CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES:

http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» RE: turning off their emails Posted by: sasquuatch55
My Man Bernie
Posted by: NoPCZone on Oct 1, 2008 11:42 PM   
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Senator Sanders, you are a national treasure. I live in a state represented by two DLC (read Republicans with 'D' behind their title) Clintonistas. Even though I do not live in Vermont, I think of you and Russ Feingold as my Senators.
Keep up the great work. I just wish there were more like you.

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» RE: My Man Bernie Posted by: kwalla
» RE: My Man Bernie Posted by: exasperated
» RE: My Man Bernie Posted by: bluebirdella
Alternative
Posted by: Jeanne on Oct 2, 2008 12:03 AM   
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There is an alternative proposal out there from Rep DiFazio (OR) and others. The Senate hybrid (or bastard child) of the version the House rejected Monday does not meet the standards of benefiting the taxpayer. It should be rejected and Congress should take a deep breath and consider, debate, and design a plan that will be effective. There is not a need to pass it today, tomorrow, or the next day. Let experts examine the proposed bill(s) and give us an informed critique. "Measure twice, cut once."

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» RE: Alternative Posted by: kitty1967
Take Down the "Federal Reserve" Corp & Take back the Nation
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Oct 2, 2008 12:07 AM   
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A nation that doesn't own it's own money does NOT own ANYTHING that matters including its history, its government or its media.

To think any flavor of Wall Street rigged “bailout” will solve the economy and accountability for it much less what really counts at America owns the thought process of a fool. And a serial fool at that.

The FASCIST parasite corporate crime ruling class that created this bloody mess is literally banking on citizen sheep to stay home and let blood money BS swindler "experts" that sold them down the river to do it again.

If that happens, America is doomed and deserves to be.


“You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out.”
President Andrew Jackson (the 7th President publicly pledging to defeat international monopolist bankers to their face in his speech. Jackson was the last president to vanquish a global cartel in its plans for a privately owned “U.S.” central bank. Quote 1832)

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government of the U.S. ever since the days of Andrew Jackson. History depicts Andrew Jackson as the last truly honorable and incorruptible American president.”
President FDR (on de facto Fascist rule in a letter to corporate monopoly charlatan “Colonel” Edward M. House, co-founder of the Council on Foreign Relations and political fixer for the ruling class. House also handled President Wilson. 11/21/ l933)

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» RE: Dishonorable Andrew Jackson Posted by: americansheep
» Honorable Andrew Jackson Posted by: PointMan
Since we're gonna spend $700,000,000,000 anyway
Posted by: daphrey on Oct 2, 2008 12:15 AM   
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If we need to spend $700B on the financial sector, then why get only the bad? For that amount of money the pubilc could buy outright:

JP Morgan
Goldman Sachs
Bank of America
Citigroup

We'd still own the toxic waste, but we'd own the equity as well. Once the mess was cleared off we could make some money back by re-listing the companies.

Just another variant on why the current plan is such a stinker.

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» Thanks! Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: Thanks! Posted by: nochicagoboys
» RE: Thanks! Posted by: photon's feather
» Speaking of Bank Of America ... Posted by: TarryFaster
A Bailout for Foreigners ! Screwed by Goldman Sacks Again !
Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 2, 2008 12:31 AM   
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"For nearly a year, we have been asking ourselves why the investors and foreign banks that bought up hundreds of billions of dollars of worthless mortgage-backed securities (MBS) from US investment banks have not taken legal action against these same banks or initiated a boycott of US financial products to prevent more people from getting ripped off?

Now we know the answer. It's because, behind the scenes, Henry Paulson and Co. were working out a deal to dump the whole trillion dollar mess on the US taxpayer. That's what this whole $700 billion boondoggle is all about; wiping out the massive debts that were generated in the biggest incident of fraud in history. Rep Brad Sherman explained it like this last night to Larry Kudlow:

"It (The bill) provides hundreds of billions of dollars of bailouts to foreign investors."

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we are paying for Wall Streets illegal sales of these toxic assets overseas.

Not One Dime!

Screwed by Goldman Sacks Again !

In case you haven't heard the CEO of Goldman was in the room when AIG got bailed out ... Why is this important ? That AIG bailout saved Goldman Sacks a cool 20 billion dollars. It only cost the tax payers 85 billion in loans.

Wall Street's Infinite Sleaze:

Keep calling Congress and tell them how you feel about paying hundreds of billions to Clean Up Wall Streets Crimes ...

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Let's get real
Posted by: georgiaorwell on Oct 2, 2008 1:22 AM   
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I am deeply hopeful that the House will ultimately support Rep DiFasio's (Or) plan, supported by Dennis Kucinich and others who want to help bail out homeowners and the middle class - rather than Wall Street.

No matter how you spin it, the Senate plan sticks it to the middle class and is a 'top down' bail out (which they're spinning now as 'rescue'). I have been an Obama supporter, but I cannot and will not 'buy into' the crap that the Senate bail out plan is going to help everyday Americans because it does not. I would like to see Obama get behind the DiFasio proposal - it will show what he truly understands about the economy - same with McCain.

C'mon, folks, this is just some more political bull that's being promoted at the expense of taxpayers. I have definitely and irrevocably given up on the Senate Dems - you can't tell the difference between most of them and the Repugs. This is one time I admire the Repubs who have stood against the present bail out plans. Bottom line - if the present Senate bail out plan goes through, the Congressional Senators and Reps who support it should not be voted back into office.

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» RE: Let's get real Posted by: georgiaorwell
» RE: Let's get real Posted by: herronsmith
» RE: Let's get real Posted by: Ayuh!
» But Obama says it's OK Posted by: eeezzz
Please Post Information About the Vote and Contacting the No Voters
Posted by: Drume on Oct 2, 2008 3:08 AM   
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Can someone please post information about when the House is and who we should contact to urge them to vote no?

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» From Thomas: Posted by: photon's feather
Make the Rich Pay
Posted by: rancespergl on Oct 2, 2008 3:15 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Make the rich pay.

I'm barely employed despite a college education and high skills.

The rich people owe it to us, the America that gave them their fortune.

MAKE THE RICH PAY.

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» RE: Make the Rich Pay Posted by: helenahanbasquet
» RE: Make the Rich Pay Posted by: walldodger1969
» RE: Make the Rich Pay Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: Make the Rich Pay Posted by: HoboHomo
» RE: Make the Rich Pay Posted by: Ethical1
Bend over, folks
Posted by: socialpsych on Oct 2, 2008 3:25 AM   
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The pirates are about to give it to us right up the wazoo.

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» RE: Bend over, folks Posted by: cellorelio
The Price To Pay...
Posted by: Godfather89 on Oct 2, 2008 3:56 AM   
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It is only a price to pay, that when we focus more so on our recreation and entertainment sectors that we forget and become apathetic to the political climate. Kind of like falling asleep when we should have been awake! This is the price we must pay and we have two options: Continue to be apathetic citizens and not do anything about it or Abolish or Alter the current government yet again.

Its great to see most of the real Americans united against the bailout but you know what? This is only one of a few things America should be united behind.

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» RE: The Price To Pay... Posted by: HoboHomo
No Bail for the Wall Street Weasels
Posted by: whoopingcrone on Oct 2, 2008 4:44 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This old man, he buys one;
He sells knick-knacks ‘til they’re done
Chorus:
With a knick-knack, paddy whack,
Gives a bank a loan;
This old man comes rolling home.
This old man, he buys two;
He sells knick-knacks five to two
Chorus:
This old man, he buys three;
He sells knick-knacks from our trees
Chorus:
This old man comes rolling home.
This old man, he plays four;
Pastes his knick-knacks on our doors
Chorus:
This old man, he plays five;
His investments take a dive.
Chorus:
This old man, he plays six;
Knick-knacks nothing but a bunch of tricks.
Chorus:
This old man, he rolls seven;
He’ll play knick-knack on the way to heaven'
Chorus:

This old man, he plays eight;
Selling knick-knacks early and late.
Chorus:
This old man, he buys nine;
Sells his knick-knacks down the line
Chorus:
This old man, he buys ten;
Tries to knick-knack once again;
Stop his knick-knacks, paddy whacks,
Let him own his loans,
Then this old man can’t get your home.

NO BAIL 4 THE WALL STREET WEASELS.

see the go-with pics at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digilager"

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We should be discussing the economy in local free assemblies
Posted by: Vic Fedorov on Oct 2, 2008 4:47 AM   
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We should be discussing the economy in local free assemblies.

Let the people discuss what makes sense to them, what they want from each other.

Our current economy is not meant to be, don't save it.

Too many people don't actually produce anything.
All those houses built approved by local officials, when local officials are neither state nor people, violated the tenth amendment's reservations of power for the state or the people.

Our founders intended for free assemblies as a form of local self-rule by the people. These free assemblies should discuss the economy. If you asked the people, they would say they don't like this economy.

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Bail-out Is a financial scam
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Oct 2, 2008 4:49 AM   
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Guess who the biggest campaign contributor to George W. Bush is? MBNA, a big credit card company. MBNA wrote the legislation that radically changed the bankruptcy laws in the US.
Predatory lending, which used to be the province of criminal loan sharks, is now the norm in the lending industry in the US.
Today's banking crisis is the THIRD trillion dollar plus US-caused financial meltdown in the last twenty years.
Each one of these crises came into being through the same basic mechanism...the fraudulent over-valuing of financial assets by Wall Street - with a "wink and a nod" (and sometimes a lot more) from the White House and Congress.
The fraudulently valued assets stimulate the economy, impart the illusion of health and then, inevitably, the fraud goes too far and the whole house of card comes painfully crashing back to earth.
Go to my website, www.911insidejob.net and read many articles and watch videos on the well planned takedown of the US dollar by the Bush White House and the Federal Reserve Bank.

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» FYI Posted by: TarryFaster
» RE: FYI Posted by: EncinoM
Is Bernie Sanders
Posted by: Erin on Oct 2, 2008 4:50 AM   
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The only sound mind in the Senate??? They are going to fork over all this money to Paulson and let him have free rain, doing whatever he wants, because he will now be the decider. Let's just hope the House sends them another resounding NO!!!!

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Dictator Bush
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Oct 2, 2008 5:01 AM   
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I have a feeling that Dictator Bush has Congress in line now to pass this thing quickly. Thats hwo the new Regime rolls!

JIff
Online Privacy when it Counts

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So what
Posted by: solrev on Oct 2, 2008 5:32 AM   
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The purpose of the bailout is to prevent the financial infrastructure from collapsing, and ergo the global financial infrastructure. Good idea or bad idea and does this bailout do that? The purpose is not to fix the economy. If the infrastructure collapses there will be no economy to fix or the means to fix what is left. If the global financial structure breaks, the trillions in foreign debt will cause a run on America. We have two choices let China and Japan own your home, or declare bankruptcy and withdraw globally. We would probably not even have the resources to bring our military back home.

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Back to the days of welfare abuse!
Posted by: Karl.Ben on Oct 2, 2008 5:35 AM   
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The demorats will screw us again in this mess. Money for everyone, especially those that cant manage their own affairs.

Maybe I'l go buy a $1 million house and see if I can't get Pelosi to pay for it!

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» RE: Gun down Pelosi please. Posted by: undrgrndgirl
Thank you for your vote, Senator Sanders, but...
Posted by: photon's feather on Oct 2, 2008 5:46 AM   
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why couldn't you have joined with a few others
(such as Feingold and Tester) and filibustered?

We needed more than 25 "No" votes.

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Look At All The Little Piggies, Living Piggy Lives...
Posted by: nochicagoboys on Oct 2, 2008 5:48 AM   
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"Maybe I'm the only person in America who thinks so, but I have a hard time understanding why we are giving $700 billion to the Secretary of the Treasury, the former CEO of Goldman Sachs, who along with other financial institutions, actually got us into this problem."

No, Senator, you're most definitely not the only person in America who believes we're all being railroaded into oblivion. It's apparent to me that like the Bush administration, our legislative body, save for a few brave people like yourself, is a den of thieves. Thank you for all that you do, not only for your home state of Vermont, but for all of the citizens of these United States -- whether they're aware of it or not. You're a true patriot, Sir, and there are not enough like you.

AlterNet readers: For a good comprehensive look at how the vote in the Senate looked last night, view the map published in this morning's online New York Times. Put a name to a face, and then, all of us, e-mail or call the traitors who voted to push this bill full of pig shit, and let them know we're totally disappointed and disgusted with their sellout of the American people to the moneyed-elite of Wall Street.

Thank you, again, Senator Sanders.

And...thank you, John. You were an inspiration to millions. Your work applies more, now, than ever.

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» Excellent map! Posted by: ebishirl
» RE: excellent map! Posted by: nochicagoboys
Whose Money Was It In The First Place
Posted by: Nedtheredhead on Oct 2, 2008 5:55 AM   
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There seems to be some misconception that the money lost in the sub prime mortgage crisis, and the crisis that followed, was the investments of rich people from the 'wealthy end of (US) town' alone. The belief is that American taxpayer money is now being invested into the pockets of these wealthy Americans and that they will some how re roll the economy back to a level that will hopefully create economic stability.
Think again America.
The financial market is not inclusive to the US alone, the money that was spent in this debacle came from ALL SECTIONS OF THE GLOBE. The money that is being repaid by the US Government, taxpayer money, is to prevent INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS FROM WITHDRAWING THEIR INVESTMENTS AND CRASHING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY COMPLETELY.
If, as some suggest, the Congress defeats this bill, and little to no tax money is poured into save what is left of the US economy, it will get catastrophically worse. The invested money will be withdrawn by Europe, China, Russia, South East Asia, including Australia and New Zealand etc, and instead poured into another currency, probably the Euro, and other countries, such as China, Russia, India and Brazil.
Even if this bill gets passed and US taxpayer money is poured into save what can be saved, it will only serve to stabilise on the short term. Radical action will have to be taken to assure the big...overseas...investors that the US is a safe place to re invest in.
Look at the banks of other nations. Look at how they are tumbling. Look at how their Governments are topping them up to prevent them going to the wall. Do you really think those Governments will continue to support American investment without some serious changes to the way America has been fiscally trading till now?
This problem is not just big America, it is humongous.
I wish you well.

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VOTE NO, DEMAND A NEW SOLUTION AND A FULL INVESTIGATION!
Posted by: Peter Mackrael on Oct 2, 2008 6:21 AM   
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When the House meets today, the revised Paulson Bail-Out Legislation should not be accepted in any form. It is now up to $850bn! Tell your representative to vote NO because this bill will not solve the liquidity problem and it is just plain wrong to privatize profits while socializing losses. There are other solutions that do not require taxpayers to buy worthless debt paper from irresponsible investment bankers.

Recent bail-outs have already cost the US taxpayers about $700bn. In addition, the government recently provided $700bn to European banks with no effect on liquidity. If this bill is approved, these interventions will increase US debt to about $12 trillion. Foreign lenders now hold about 40% of US debt. This bill may reassure them for a short while until they see that US debt continues to increase while GDP declines. This bill may delay but will certainly not prevent a recession in the US. This bail-out program will severely limit spending on social programs for many years to come!

Instead of solving the liquidity crisis, this bill will transfer $700bn from the poorest 90% (working taxpayers) to enrich the wealthiest 10% who hold debt derivatives and shares in these investment banks. Which debt will we buy and at what piece? This will provide a grand opportunity for graft and fraud. It will be impossible to establish a fair value for this worthless debt paper but consulting fees will be huge. While this bill transfers public wealth to political friends of both parties in the Wall Street community, it does nothing to prevent further consolidation and restructuring by US banks. These banks will soon demand more!

Here is one obvious solution. The five big investment banks: Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley have recently morphed into regular banks. In effect, these investment banks have increased their asset base while transferring their bad debt assets to commercial banks. If these new banks require additional liquidity, existing regulations allow them sell assets to private investors to raise additional capital. In addition, they can borrow from the Fed, their lender of last resort. This liquidity emergency is exactly what the Fed was created for. If these banks are still unable to obtain enough liquidity to provide consumer loans and adequate operating capital to US businesses, then and only then should the federal government buy or establish a national bank for this purpose.

Meanwhile we need to re-establish and enforce investment banking regulations. Also we need an independent investigation to understand how and why the investment banks and government got us into this liquidity crisis so it can be prevented in future. It is possible that stock manipulation and outright fraud has been committed in recent months.

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Eat The Rich!
Posted by: TarryFaster on Oct 2, 2008 6:38 AM   
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By knowing, we are freed. Therefore, ignorance is just regret waiting to happen.

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8 Bush Years
Posted by: DrSuess on Oct 2, 2008 6:39 AM   
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The first thought I had when I heard that it was all “Clinton’s fault” was- “where was Bush during all these years”. The conservatives have had a Republican in the white house for 8 years- why did the laws not change? There was a total Republican control during the first few years of Bush’s presidency- why did the laws not change?

The fact is the laws did change- for the worse. The rules of good sense went out with the governmental regulations designed to protect the “little people”. Businesses were given a free pass to do anything free of the fear of government regulators. Businesses did what they do best- make money. But it was in a soul less and stupid way.

By throwing away all the rules of common sense and traditional practice they destroyed their own market. Banks that lend money to people who cannot pay- deserve their fate. Why would anyone encourage people to lie on their applications?

However, the real problem was that the banks lent to people telling the truth- but structured the loans in a predatory way- so that there was no chance that the people could repay. Who can possibly ever repay a 30% interest credit card? The loan is structured to create perpetual debt. It is like the old song about owing “my soul the company store”.

I recently watched the movie “Amazing Grace” about the end to the slave trade in Great Britain. All the arguments for slavery were financial ones. Slavery was “good” business. It was very profitable. As I watched those arguments for slavery- I realized that slavery is good business- but it is not good social policy.

Under Bush we moved to a place where “good business” overrode good social policy- and now we have a colossal mess- even for the businesses.

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3 pages = 450 pages... $700 bil = $850 bil and climbing...
Posted by: ellie on Oct 2, 2008 6:41 AM   
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started to read the mark up copy yesterday and got to page 10, realizing that this new version of the bailout bill doubles back on itself to cancel out any benefits to taxpayers one way or another... in fact, taxpayers can be hit for more money at any time without having to go back through congressional channels again, which closes off all avenues of dissent for the people... now onto the rest of the doc...

hey, one big question... when I was in grad school and had 450 pages to read overnight was totally out of it the next day and didn't remember 9/10th of what I slogged through... how does the average senator get that much read time and time to digest the ramifications for mark up in the first place???

bad bills make bad laws... this one is a whopper of band aids and innuendos... slow down congress, remember elections are right around the corner, or are the elections the reason to get this bill out for signing before regime change??? who is yanking who's chain with threats???

thanks senator sanders, you seem to be the only same one in house right now...

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the only decent man in the US Senate tells it like it is
Posted by: deborama on Oct 2, 2008 6:50 AM   
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Once again I am envious of my two sisters who live in Vermont and are represented by this fine Senator. May I add that just yesterday my son, who is a senior at the University of Vermont in Burlington, forwarded to me a letter from UVM's president stating that the school, along with about a thousand others, had its money invested in Wachovia and 90% of those funds have now been FROZEN, jeoparding the school's ability to disburse financial aid (on which my kid and most others depend) and to make payroll. This is really happening folks. If the billionaire bailout passes, the rich will stay rich and the rest of us will plunge even deeper into the morass. I say if we're going down, let's take the bastards who got us into this along for the ride.

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Thank you but it won't happen
Posted by: herronsmith on Oct 2, 2008 6:54 AM   
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You can preach about injustice to the middle class all day long and it will fall on deaf ears. The powers that be don't give a rat's ass about the average citizen. That is obvious in the way they continue to rape and pillage us. This lame (duck) president has no incentive nor do the millionaire boys' club of Wall Street. There is only one way and that is to revolt. Sorry if this sounds drastic but what is even more drastic is our government jeopardizin