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House Votes 'No' on Paulson's Bailout -- But Is the Financial Meltdown Averted?

By Mike Whitney, CounterPunch. Posted September 29, 2008.


The fear on Capital Hill is palpable, especially among the Democrats who have led the effort to pass Paulson's boondoggle ASAP.
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Today the US House rejected Treasury Secretary Paulson's $700 billion Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008. Paulson said he has the votes, but Paulson was wrong. The House bucked the Paulson's claim that buying up the illiquid mortgage-backed assets from the nation's banks would be enough to save the financial system from an impending meltdown. The jury remains out on that question, too. Professor Nouriel Roubini, chairman of Roubini Global Economics, summed it up like this, "You're not resolving the two fundamental issues: You still have to recapitalize the banking system, and household debt is going to stay high". A large number of economists believe Roubini is right. The bill would not solve the underlying problems.

There is a crisis. The banking system is undercapitalized, the credit markets are frozen, and foreign creditors are beginning to slow their purchases of US debt. It's all bad. At the same time the number of casualties among the financial giants -- Bear Stearns, Indymac, AIG, Lehman, Washington Mutual -- continues to grow. Three more struggling European banks were added to the list of financial institutions that needed emergency government assistance this past weekend. It's no wonder Congress feels like they have to do something to stop the bleeding.

Before the stock market opened on Monday, the futures markets had slumped heavily into negative territory, while the TED spread, an indicator of stress in interbank lending, had widened to 3.19, a level that suggests another rocky week of trading ahead. Could this be another Black Monday?

Paulson's bill was designed to avert a system-wide crash by clearing the banks' balance sheets so they could resume extending credit to consumers and businesses. The hope was that massive infusion of capital would "turn back the clock" to the happy days of low interest speculation and bubble economics. Paulson is a "one trick pony" who firmly adheres to the belief that wealth creation depends on maximum leverage and an ever-weakening currency. But that world view is no longer applicable after reaching Peak Credit, where consumers are no longer able to make the interest payments on their loans and businesses and financial institutions are forced to curb their spending and dump their toxic assets at firesale prices. The system is deleveraging and nothing can stop it. Paulson has yet to accept the new reality.

Besides, there was no guarantee that the banks would use the money in the way that Paulson imagines. As one Wall Street veteran explained to me, "I don't see one penny of that $700 billion ending up helping the broader economy. I see it being used to prop up share prices so the insiders can salvage as much as possible when dumping their shares".

Indeed, the $700 billion is just part of a massive "pump and dump" scheme engineered with the tacit approval of the US Treasury and the Federal Reserve. Once the banksters have offloaded their fraudulent securities and crappy paper on Uncle Sam, they will do whatever they need to do pad the bottom line and drive their stocks up. That means they will shovel capital into hard assets, foreign currencies, gold, interest rate swaps, carry trade swindles, and Swiss bank accounts. The notion that they will recapitalize so they can provide loans to US consumers and businesses in a slumping economy is a pipedream.

The US is headed into its worst recession in 60 years. The housing market is crashing, securitzation is kaput, and the broader economy is drifting towards the reef. The banks are not going to waste their time trying to revive a moribund US market where consumers and businesses are already tapped out. No way; it's on to greener pastures. They'll move their capital wherever they think they can maximize their profits. In fact, a sizable portion of the $700 billion will likely be invested in commodities, which means that we'll see another round of hyperbolic speculation in food and energy futures pushing food and fuel prices into the stratosphere. Ironically, the taxpayers' largesse will be used against them, making a bad situation even worse.

Then again, if a rehabbed bill isn't passed, no one can predict with certainty what will happen. Here's how Tim Shipman summed it up in "Bailout Failure Will Cause US Crash", in the UK Telegraph:

"Officials close to Paulson are privately painting a far bleaker portrait of the fragility of the global economy than that advanced by President George W Bush in his televised address last week.

One Republican said that the message from government officials is that 'the economy is dropping into the john.' He added: 'We could see falls of 3,000 or 4,000 points on the Dow [the New York market that currently trades at around 11,000]. That could happen in just a couple of days.


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Mike Whitney lives in Washington state. He can be reached at fergiewghitney@msn.com.


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Let's all just give both parties the PAUL KERSEY DEATH WISH at the voting booth !!!!
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 29, 2008 2:17 PM   
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NON-MONIED THIRD/INDEPENDENT PARTIES FOR CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT !!!!

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The Only Way Out of this Mess is to Restore Full Financial Regulation Now!!
Posted by: yellow on Sep 29, 2008 2:20 PM   
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In the first place, the current crisis has nothing to do with the Federal Reserve. For much of the 1990s the Federal Funds rate, the overnight bank rate set by the Fed, was at or around 6.5%, well above the low rate of inflation. In the second place, the Federal Funds rate doesn't track with other short and medium term interest rates such as those for 6 month T-Bills, ten year T-Bonds, 30 Year mortgage rates or corporate bonds. In other words interest rates did not create a bubble by being too low because they are not a benchmark for other long term rates. A study was done of the spread between the Fed Funds rate and other rates and the standard deviation from the mean was far higher than the mean spread in every full business cycle since the 1970s.

Regulating the financial markets are more effective than monetary policy which is bound to be a failure and irrelevant. Tobin taxes on speculation, restoring glass-steagall and asset based reserve requirements should be considered before a bailout is approved by Congress.

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1-20-09 after the last utterance of the Oath...
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 29, 2008 2:56 PM   
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How many more Times Will We Be expected to accpect that Lame ass Line."It's not how we Got Here, It's what we are going to do Now"
No Johnny boy we Not only want to talk about how we got Here -777.+ DOW, WE WANT TO START FRYING SOME ASSES FOR IT!!
If McCain thinks he's going to slither his way out of this cluster F*ck HE HAS HELP CAUSE..He apparently thinks the Koolaids still working!
It's About time The Republican party is Held Resposnible for thier High crimes. They have Swept Much of our nations Worst High crimes under the national Rug for the last few Decades- Watergate , then Iran Contra , Then Keating 5 ,Black Monday '87 Then 9/11, then Iraq, then Anthrax,Now Todays Destructive closing #"s .
And they keep TELLING US we shouldn't expect to convict anyone for any wrong doing..
I Want All Who have been slithering in the "Shadows' for the last 40 yrs to be convicted for ALL their High crimes (Treason WAr Crimes Crimes Against humantiy)Baker,Cheney, Rummy, Wolfie et al.
McCain and his Cronies, The Gramm's, Black Davis, LIEberman, Graham et al to be convicted on their various Embezzlement of taxpayers dollars , leading to a foreseeable 'Burst', which has had devasting effects on the life & Security of the American citizens - thus TREASON.
What has had more impact on our Way of Life- such acts as The attempted 'shoe bomber', The Rosenbergs?? Even GENERAL Benedict Arnold's turn Coat act did not lose the Revolution. But the actions of such Politicans as John McCain have been not only longer in duration, but far more vast in scope then any of those.
John McCain LIED About Ever Learning ANYTHING From the KEATING 5 Scandal. His Campaign staffers and advisors are Testimony to that FACT!
ON 1-20-09- HAVE ARMED MILITRY PERSONAL AND POLICE READY TO SEIZE ALL CRIMINALS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ADMIN, THEIR CORP SPONSORS, VISITING 'DIGNATARIES'...Thus McCain Fiends too!
McCain is not 4 more years of Bush- McCain is far deeper into that Shit Hole than W. has Ever allowed Down, and McCain dug his OWN WAY DOWN!!
Once Again I Must Ask ..Mr. McCain..WHICH 'Country First'???

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Without spending a dime
Posted by: Canute on Sep 29, 2008 2:57 PM   
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We can solve at least part of the problem without spending a dime on worthless securities. The mortgages underlying the securities are the key.

Why are the securities worthless?

Because the mortgages that back them are non-performing.

Why are so many mortgages non-performing?

Because:
1) After a century of nearly flat performance, the inflation adjusted price of housing suddenly jumped by 80% from 1997 to 2007, far beyond what normal people can pay.

2) Too many people got stuck with "time bomb" mortgages where the interest rate suddenly goes up.

Congress should pass a bill forcing the banks to write down all the mortgages behind these junk securities to 1996 levels and to transform all the mortgages into 30-year low fixed interest loans. Millions of people would be able to pay their mortgages and stay in their homes. Then the securities would be worth something and the banks could survive.

Read more here.

And we (the DOJ) should sue the execs in charge of this fiasco for everything they are worth. Auction off their BMWs to pay for the expense of managing the restructuring.

Then, of course, we would need massive re-regulation.

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» Time bomb mortgages? Posted by: badkitty
» RE: Time bomb mortgages? Posted by: richholland
» RE: Time bomb mortgages? Posted by: angelmom1
Ouch!!!!
Posted by: Falang on Sep 29, 2008 2:59 PM   
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Now that the bailout failed we see a lot specialists from Wall Street trying to explain what people should or should not do and what the government should do or should not do.

Those specialist from Wall Street are the ones who fu.. the system and now the people and the government should listen to them?

Some people can loose some money on the crash but they should have known that putting your saving in the hands of crooks was risky. But the one who are loosing a lot of money are those same crooks; so be it.

Now that the bailout failed we see a lot specialists from Wall Street trying to explain what people should or should not do and what the government should do or should not do.

Those specialist from Wall Street are the ones who fu.. the system and now the people and the government should listen to them?

Some people can loose some money on the crash but they should have known that putting your saving in the hands of crooks was risky. But the one who are loosing a lot of money are those same crooks; so be it.

That what happen when bank lend more money than they have or putting in an other way the lend virtual money.

Maybe that will put a little order on the market and the bank but it should also serve as warning on the people who are crawling over their head in credit you know the ones who are paying their mortgage with a credit card and paying the credit card with an other credit card ……………..

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» RE: Ouch!!!! Posted by: aussidawg
Less Propaganda & More Facts, Please
Posted by: akarr on Sep 29, 2008 3:05 PM   
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I don't understand how the example of 42 IMF monitored cases proves your point. You don't say how many did or did not work.

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Website down
Posted by: cdub on Sep 29, 2008 3:06 PM   
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I wanted to download and read the 100 page bill but the website www.house.gov isn't even working. Anyhow how many of the jerkoffs in congress could have even read any of that in one day? I wanted to read it for the details of the plan but also to see what kind of easter eggs were in it.

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shock doctrine... take advantage of the crisis/people of America
Posted by: Ghoulman on Sep 29, 2008 3:08 PM   
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... it's typical. Naomi Klein pointed out this little trick. Of course Sec. of Treasury Henry Paulson is using this crisis to push through a pay-off for Wall Street banks/lenders.

This crisis was seen coming for the last two years. The $700 Billion payoff was almost forced through in less than a week today. No debate, no Congressional meetings. Pass it 'or suffer', is the message of fear from the White House and Wall Street.

Let's not forget the over $300 Billion world wide already given to the banks 'no questions asked'.

Free Market seems to mean free of criminal charges... if you ask me.

This Free Market, 'invisible hand', Globalization, economic ideology also includes the cynical and crass opportunism Naomi Klein's book 'the shock doctrine' points out. When a crisis hits, TPTB use it to gain power and money. In this case, the crooks in Washington and Wall Street are literally demanding Trillions of dollars RIGHT NOW ... or else.

The Powers That Be knew this crisis was coming. They let it happen. Why? Because they know Washington would bail out the banks... out of fear of the crisis. Just like the last one.

Great way to run an economy eh? Er... not!

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True Americans
Posted by: Captainmagic on Sep 29, 2008 3:10 PM   
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It gives me great pride and pleasure to write to you and if I may use a speech by a bald headed chap a long time ago...you might have heard it....it goes not unlike this...NEVER IN THE FIELD OF FINANCIAL CONFLICT HAS SO MUCH BEEN OWED TO SO FEW BY SO MANY....and I would be referring to those that voted down this travesty and NOT the amount of money that the elites think that you owe them.

Captain OUT
P.S However...Soldiers motto...watch your front and watch for that which you cannot see, wherever it 'will' lye.

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have you noticed that democrats are too eager to collude with bush for this bail out.
Posted by: avatar_singh on Sep 29, 2008 3:20 PM   
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had it not been for the republicans then this theft bail out would have easily pass3ed the house. more over the bllomberg reports that many moneyd men are saying that the market has gone down exactly to put prerssure on congressmen to come up with bail out or else.
that is the marketmen are threatenign the meltdown unless the congress gives them money -it is pure blackmail by the moneyd class to get money from the tazpayers.

the only people asking for this money are the marketmen , their agents in the establishment and the britsh.

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What Really Happened
Posted by: EncinoM on Sep 29, 2008 3:24 PM   
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So we spent $700B dollars today by not approving the rescue package. And it came from the securities in all of our retirement accounts, our savings accounts, our pension plans, and the companies that pay our paychecks. Only instead of us paying it in taxes over years (and probably getting most of it back as the assets realize their value), we paid it in a single day. Very smart and just as predicted. It'll cost us more to sit and debate this thing than to get it moving.

We are not bailing out Wall Street - we're trying to save ourselves by salvaging the financial system. Without the financial system, we might as well be in the Stone Age again. No businesses, no large crop planters who have to finance their crop before they plant it and wait 6 months before they can sell it.

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» RE: What Really Happened Posted by: CatDad
» RE: What Really Happened Posted by: EncinoM
Maybe too early to conclude stoppage of the bailout.
Posted by: aouie01 on Sep 29, 2008 4:30 PM   
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Rushing a $700+ billion give away is a bad idea. I heard a revote is scheduled for Thursday. Behind the scenes pressure to pass the vote could be enormous. There is no saying how many paid "regular" looking people are going to be falsely appealing for the bailout. Call all the Noes and then the Yaes to keep the pressure on to resist the bullying and pressure to pass the bailout hurriedly.
Sincerely,
Aouie

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Error
Posted by: Drume on Sep 29, 2008 4:40 PM   
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The fear on Capital Hill is palpable, especially among the Democrats who have led the effort to pass Paulson's boondoggle ASAP.

It's Capitol Hill.

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Well?
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Sep 29, 2008 4:59 PM   
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Congress, the White House and the Fed already HAD oversight responsibility for the US economy.

Maybe giving them more money and power isn't the answer.

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Walk out
Posted by: maxomus on Sep 29, 2008 5:21 PM   
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I think Americans should do a nationwide walk out from our jobs etc. to protest the bailout. the Rich have done enough damage to us! what else do we have to lose?? besides more money down the road when they screw up even more again!

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» RE: Walk out Posted by: Starfall Deception
» RE: Walk out Posted by: maxomus
» RE: Walk out Posted by: Starfall Deception
» RE: Walk out Posted by: richholland
» RE: Walk out Posted by: maxfactor
Finally, the blockheads........
Posted by: eosrk on Sep 29, 2008 5:33 PM   
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had gotten so blockheaded their blockheaded ideas, lies, and decit no longer works....in fact, it just backfired on them.

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Ever heard of...
Posted by: maxomus on Sep 29, 2008 5:45 PM   
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Have you ever heard the quote "I sacrifised One solider to save the lives of Thousands"? Well I'll bet there is at least 7 billionaires in America. Why not make each of them sacrifice a 100 billion each, to save the financial lives of thousands? The rich got us into this, they should get us out. Stop rapeing us of money to keep you rich!!

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» RE: ver heard of... Posted by: Starfall Deception
» RE: ver heard of... Posted by: richholland
Writer Thought Bill Would Pass
Posted by: Drume on Sep 29, 2008 6:07 PM   
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It's so obvious that the writer thought this bill would pass, and once it failed, s/he went back through it and hastily edited it.

It shows.

Can't you guys put together an article from beginning to end that reflects what actually happened?

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My Tiny Violin Is Playing Schadenfreude
Posted by: left_libertarian on Sep 29, 2008 6:38 PM   
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A good day for the average American.

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Tell me again
Posted by: chlamor on Sep 29, 2008 6:39 PM   
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Tell me again what is it exactly that Wall St. produces other than predatory loans, global financial schemes and more wealth for the already wealthy?

Why is it so impossible for people to imagine a world without Wall St.?

I'll trust a greasy carny any day over those well-heeled slime balls on the trading floor.

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» RE: Tell me again Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Tell me again Posted by: bamafleck
VERY INTERESTING VIDEO OVER AT 'TPM'
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 29, 2008 6:49 PM   
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A collection of clips showing democrats strongly objecting to Fredie Mac and Fannie Mae regulations. The need for regulation being presented by Republicans. Apparently already being shown on FOX.
ANNA

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Did i just read that right? Republicans just saved our asses....
Posted by: dauphin534 on Sep 29, 2008 7:20 PM   
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almost everyone here is bashing the republicans while ignoring one key message in this article. PELOSI and co. are pushing through this bill. so how can you say they are any better than the republicans. but it's exciting to know that SOME individuals in both parties are starting to grow a backbone. defeating the bush agenda can actually be a bipartisan issue.

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The poor and working class have little voice in society and politics
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Sep 29, 2008 7:50 PM   
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largely because few people identify as poor or working class, even when they're living on the financial edge. What allows them to maintain the delusion of their own prosperity, much as our nation has maintained the delusion of its own invincible economy and bottomless wealth, is credit. Through the bizarre magic of credit, many people, and our nation in general, can live as if they're better off than they actually are.

If credit seizes up, then the realization should dawn on many people that they closer to the bottom of society than they previously believed, and in fact their momentum is downward, not upward. Many could still try to identify themselves as superior to people who were poor or working-class prior to this "meltdown," at least for a while. Still, however, the lower socioeconomic rungs of society should gain a larger, louder voice. Though it probably won't be listened to very often, at least at first, this would nevertheless constitute a step in a good direction.

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» Wait A Minute Posted by: Direct Democracy
Lest We Jump To Fucking Conclusions
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Sep 29, 2008 8:33 PM   
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What makes anyone think that the bailout would have averted a collapse of the US economy, or that it was even INTENDED to avert a collapse of the US economy?


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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What they're not saying
Posted by: Dboy on Sep 30, 2008 12:32 AM   
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"Sept. 29 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve will pump an additional $630 billion into the global financial system, flooding banks with cash to alleviate the worst banking crisis since the Great Depression. . ."


So, the Fed threw $630 billion into the market before the vote, and yet the DJIA still suffered the single worst point loss EVER.

Paulson's plan was $700 billion, and Bernanke spends $630 billion--almost the entire amount proposed--and failed to fix the problem. What does that tell you?

dboy

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There is no melt down!
Posted by: MizuInOz on Sep 30, 2008 4:48 AM   
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OK... I will be castigated and told that I have rectalcranialosis (figure it out) BUT there is no melt down. The market did not loose a Trillion dollars... The money just moved somewhere else.

If the Secretary of Treasury announced that X number of dollars (read REALLY REALLY BIG number) was being retracted by the Federal Reserve and that M1 was retracting to X (same REALLY REALLY BIG number) then there would be a melt down.

What NO ONE - most especially the fear mongering politicos and journalistas - have said is that the drop in basis was only 6% of the market! That means that 94% of the market is doing just fine!

Why the Calamity Jane krap? Because the Prescott Bush plan is finally coming to fruition - the Fabian Society is in control. (look it up)

Why is the market melting on both sides of the Atlantic? The US economy does not drive Europe. I know I lived there for 20 years and have friends who are doing quite well, thank you, about three minutes after the House said "NO"...

People are moving their money somewhere else - the market isn't melting. The market is moving.

The Easy Riders are in the dog box. And rightly so.

Shorts and options need to go away. People need to learn to read P&Ls and balance sheets and then make sound decisions and not rely on pundits! THEY ARE RARELY, IF EVER, RIGHT!

Warren Buffet does not listen to the pundits. He watches the fundamentals. PERIOD.

Go and do likewise.

I did really well today. Heaps of bargains! HEAPS!

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What Weapons Do We Have?
Posted by: Southern Gal on Sep 30, 2008 9:08 AM   
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Suppose we all contact the Democrats' leadership Pelosi and Ried and Obama and threaten not to vote for Obama if this bailout goes through. They don't seem to get it that many of we the people do not want this bailout to happen. We have been given propaganda but not the truth. If they are willing to put hearings and discussion out in the open for the public and can make a case that an intervention is for our good, we can support it. We the people don't have much power in this country. Our vote and the way we spend out money are our two weapons.

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Right and Left Agreed today and defeated a Common Enemy of the Republic:
Posted by: channing on Sep 29, 2008 9:57 PM   
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Congressional defeats during a time of Perpetual Global War that We are Funding(?)... What a Dishonor to the Authors of the United States Constitution. I mean, why don't we Fail-Out without the subsidy? Who's doing the thinking 'round here?

We Want Our Money Back

Since we Privatized Public Resources we can also expect to get our money back when the product is so defective, right? Why not have Corporateers (21st Century Pirates) Refund Our Wealth?

Certain people and enterprises profited excessively by restricting innovation, service, quality and conscience during this recent eight years while others killed innocent human beings. What we can say for sure right now is that with the vote-down of the Failout-Bailout today, we the people, both Left and Right Agreed Today on a Common Enemy

*!*!*!WE SHOULD CELEBRATE AMERICAN UNITY!*!*!*

No matter who created the debt we the people own it and simultaneously owe ourselves the restoration of balance by taking back control of our economy:

Economic shifts involving health care and military re-direction would solve half our problems for life... right?

Americans are rich and do not know how to harness natural sovereign wealth or health.

Right and Left Agreed today and defeated a Common Enemy of the Republic, did we not?

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PAULSON’S BAIL-OUT BILL IS UNDESIRABLE AND UNNECESSARY!
Posted by: Peter Mackrael on Sep 30, 2008 10:59 AM   
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When Congress meets on Thursday, the Paulson Bail-Out Legislation should not be accepted in any form! Purchasing paper that the market says is worthless is no solution at all. Setting fair prices while avoiding graft and fraud will be very costly and probably impossible. Recent bail-outs have already cost the US taxpayers about $700bn. This bill will increase US debt to about $12 trillion while doing nothing to prevent further consolidation and restructuring by US banks.

Foreign lenders now hold about 40% of US debt. This bill may reassure them for a short while until they see that US debt continues to increase while GDP declines. It may delay but will certainly not prevent a recession in the US. This bill will reward and encourage further irresponsible behavior by bankers and investors. In effect this bail-out will transfer $700bn from the poorest 90% (taxpayers) to prevent losses incurred by the richest 10% (the wealthy investors who hold debt derivatives and shares in these investment banks). In addition to transferring public wealth to political friends of both parties in the Wall Street community (consulting fees will be huge), this bill will severely limit spending on social programs for many years to come! There is a better alternative.

Perhaps in anticipation of possible rejection of the Paulson plan, the five big investment banks: Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, have morphed into regular banks. In effect, the investment banks have increased their asset base while transferring their bad debt assets to commercial banks. I expect the bank executives believe the government will be less willing to allow these banks to fail.

The Paulson bill is not required! If these new banks require additional liquidity, existing regulations allow them to borrow from the Fed and/or sell assets to raise this capital themselves. If no private investors are interested and if one of these banks is unable to operate at a profit, we should allow that bank to fail and let any remaining assets be purchased by other investors. In the event that the remaining banks (including the many regional banks) are unable to provide consumer loans and adequate operating capital to US businesses, then and only then should the federal government buy or establish a national bank for this purpose.

Meanwhile we need to re-establish and enforce investment banking regulations. Also we need an independent investigation to understand how and why the investment banks and government got us into this liquidity crisis so it can be prevented in future. It is possible that stock manipulation and outright fraud has been committed in recent months.

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WHAT DEFEAT???
Posted by: ashbaines on Oct 1, 2008 9:40 AM   
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WAIT JUST A MINUTE -- Bush and the FED pumped $630 billion into the sytem Monday morning... just before the vote. Not a peep anywhere but a Bloomberg story... like the weather.

The NEXT DAY - Bush signs a $630 billion dollar spending bill... WHAT? we are supposed to think it's the same money?

And now we are still hearing about the $700 billion bailout.

They've spent 1 TRILLION, 260 BILLION in TWO DAYS !?!?!? and they want MORE????

Why are these men still breathing? -- Where are the gallows? the pitchforks?--the Jacobins??? --

NOt a PEEP anywhere but Crooks & Liars and Bloomberg.... not a fucking peep!

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