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Why We Stood

By Jennie Pasquarella and Shonali Shome, WireTap. Posted January 27, 2006.


Georgetown University Law School students explain why they staged a protest to oppose Alberto Gonzales' speech defending the government's wiretapping.

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On Tuesday, we stood and turned our backs on attorney general Alberto Gonzales. The country's highest-ranking lawyer came to our school -- Georgetown University Law Center -- to convince the American public that the government's wiretapping program is legal. As America's future lawyers, we stood to oppose the Bush administration's bulldozing of our constitutional protections in the name of the war on terror. We stood inspired by the words of Benjamin Franklin, "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."

In his prepared speech, the attorney general proposed an unprecedented view of presidential power predicated more on the strength of his assertions than on valid legal arguments. Gonzales, who has called the protections of the Geneva Convention "quaint" and supported a radical legal redefinition of torture, was telling us why the president could break the nation's domestic spying laws. We refused to let our institution be used as a legitimacy background to an illegal program.

The attorney general advanced legal argument as an afterthought. Gonzales played on our fears of terrorism, asserting that the Bush administration has our protection at heart. But while Gonzales provided carefully tailored sound bites, his legal arguments were unconvincing and wrong.

Gonzales ignored the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the law specifically enacted as a check on government domestic spying abuses. He asserted that the president could -- at his discretion -- bypass a court explicitly established to review the legitimacy of wiretapping for national security purposes. He endowed the act authorizing the use of military force with unparalleled might, using it to justify policies its congressional enactors neither intended nor even considered.

Our protest was not about partisan politics; leading politicians and constitutional scholars of all political stripes have recognized the administration's arguments for domestic spying as flimsy at best. Our silent protest was about choosing the Constitution and our country's ideals over wrongheaded political rhetoric and surrender to a culture of fear. As graduate law students, we know for certain that adherence to the law must not be a passing consideration. Our government cannot dismantle the law for the sake of unfettered discretion in advancing national security policies or cling in vain to weak legal justifications. As the next generation of America's lawyers, our job is to stand up for the rule of law, not the rule of men.

Gonzales claimed he was contributing to a vibrant discussion, but there was no discourse. He left the room immediately following his speech and did not take part in the panel discussion. Like the president, he has consistently refused to take questions, snubbed the myriad voices of dissent and manipulated the horrors of 9/11 for the sacrifice of our liberties.

This event was one among a series of other recent national events with the same agenda -- top administration officials speaking against an official backdrop chosen to legitimize a program that has brought them criticism. We could not allow our law school to be used as the legitimate backdrop for the administration's staged photo-op.

Despite two rows of Justice Department staff and three rows of media in a small room, we made sure that the attorney general did not preach to a docile audience. We have been taught to question, to challenge and to advocate. Most of all, we have been taught to understand the law and to apply it rigorously.

Alberto Gonzales chose to use our school as the platform to justify breaking the laws we are taught to honor. We chose instead to stand for the law.

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Jennie Pasquarella and Shonali Shome are students at Georgetown University Law Center in Washington, D.C. To learn more about their campaign, visit their website.

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Bush Gangsters
Posted by: oceanye on Jan 27, 2006 1:35 PM   
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Thanks for this report. I was not aware you protested Gonzales' speech. It doesn't surprise me that I didn't know however as the MSM only writes or talks about "news" that is favorable to the Bush Gang.
Heres a project for you - find a way to make the american people aware that ther MSM only reports news favorable to Bush.

Oceanye

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SEEN YOUR PROTEST
Posted by: AlienSlave on Jan 27, 2006 1:52 PM   
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I seen your protest on the news, and the shock of it all was that the news was about you! especially Ben’s words and your banner! WOW it filled the TV screen! WHHHHHOOOO HOOOOO YES! Gonzo’s voice was muted and his message never heard. Great job well done! Now if you could just bring back `Innocent until proven guilty’ there might be another building block for respect of lawyers cemented in place.
AlienSlave

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kristinar
Posted by: kristinar on Jan 27, 2006 2:09 PM   
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Right On!!! Good for you!! Alberto Gonzales did more than offer a new definition for torture for the use of his boss, George W. Bush, when he was WH Counsel. He wrote a memo which carries the weight of law until it is legally challenged in court because of his position as WH Counsel. In his memo, he narrowed the definition of torture to include only those interrogation methods which lead to permanent maiming or death. The definition outlined in the Geneva Conventions on Torture is broad and explicit. Gonzales tailored his memo and definition of torture specifically to provide cover for Bushs illegal activities and to circumvent the legal and moral ramifications they demand.

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Right On!!
Posted by: akdave on Jan 27, 2006 2:41 PM   
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Thank you so much for standing up to this administration and their propaganda. Repetition does not equal truth!! Might does not make right...

Peace,

David

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Right on Georgetown
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jan 27, 2006 2:57 PM   
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It was the Law and Poli-sci students that formed the 'Berkeley Free Speech Movement' for just those very same reasons. When the laws you are taught are not the laws enforced or adheared to then you have a false governance.
Such as we have now. Unjust illegal actions by the Govt go back to befroe Nixon. With the exception on 'W', Rummie and Cheney have been there since Tricky Dick. The AG is as much a lapdog of Tyranny as Bush is the lap. The war is fought on lies. The reasons for spying on Americans are lies.
Bush's non association with Abramhoff is a lie. 9/11 is a lie.
We chucked 'Innocent until Proven Guilty' along with Maranda a long time ago. These concepts need to be strengthened. The 'broadest' application of The Constitution and the Bill of Rights should be the job of the Supreme Court.
As well as all four definitions of 'LIBERTY' as defined by
Black's Law Dictionary Harvard Edition. The Georgetown kids know what I mean,the rest of us will have to go to the library
and look it up. Please do it. It will be worth your time to find out how much Liberty we don't have. If you want these and the rest of your Rights,Liberties,and Freedoms restored and protected. Please support the 'People Over TyrantsParty'

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O'Reilly's spin on the protest
Posted by: launcher on Jan 27, 2006 3:16 PM   
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Well, at least one of the mainstream media outlets paid attention to the protest, even if it was Fox. It doesn't surprise me that once again Bill O'Reilly misrepresented the facts:

[News Hounds article on David Cole and Bill O'Reilly]

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Go for it!
Posted by: Bree in Idaho on Jan 27, 2006 4:50 PM   
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Good for all of you! Gonzales is making a mockery of the law and, as a soon-to-be law student, its gratifying to see others stand up against this administration's perversion of our legal system. Hopefully I'll be there next time. :)

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Turning Your Back
Posted by: coyote on Jan 27, 2006 5:37 PM   
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How much do you wish our "Representatives" in the House had the nerve to make a statement like this during the State Of The Union speech.

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Well done!
Posted by: brunowe on Jan 27, 2006 6:17 PM   
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Bravo
Posted by: kablooie on Jan 27, 2006 7:12 PM   
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Thank goodness somebody is willing to take a stand when it counts. Everybody should try it, it does the heart good.

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United We Stand
Posted by: Just Us on Jan 27, 2006 9:16 PM   
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Each of you are to be honored for standing up for what is right and just. As a member of the Miss Band of Choctaw Indians we non-violently fight our tribal chief Phillip Martin who along with his Non-Choctaw staff knowingly abuse the Choctaw tribal constitution and laws. Coercion, manipulation and intimidation are used to get their way.

In regards to the Lobbying Scandal Involving Indian Tribes, the chief's involvement with Abramoff and Scanlon is very prevelant but his attorney from New Mexico along with his Non-Choctaw staff continue to paint themselves as "victims". Don't believe it. They knew what they were doing; from planning to execution.

The real victims are the tribal members because we have no honest representation who will defend us. Attorneys here are easily paid off by the chief to not prosecute or they are just afraid because of the chief's connection with several state senators and members of the MS Bar Association.

The lobbying scandal is a crime against Indian Country but that part is sadly ignored. Aside from the chief's corrupted agenda that has been going on for 20+ years, the laws do not protect us as tribal members. Our status as a sovereign nation is flawed in the way the chief applies it to advance his own agenda.

Furthermore, we do not have jurisdiction over these Non-Choctaws. The chief knows that and the Non-Choctaws know that, which is why these acts of corruption and abuse of tribal member rights continue to occur here on the Choctaw reservation.

The chief and his Non-Choctaw staff have tainted the Choctaw image and everything our tribal elders and ancestors have fought and died for.

What you guys did at Georgetown will remain in our hearts forever because no one, including the President and our tribal chief, is above the law nor has the right to misinterpret the law to their advantage. The constitution is still the supreme law of our land.

We do not hate chief Martin nor do we wish any bad deeds towards him. We only want true justice to finally be served here on the Choctaw reservation. May the Creator bless you in all your endeavors.

In the spirit of those Past, Present and Future who stand and fight for JUSTICE...

I remain,

Elijah K Jimmie
A Very Concerned but Proud Member of the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians

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It Was PERFECT !!!
Posted by: kww355 on Jan 28, 2006 5:09 AM   
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As a 60s activist, I applaud your action and admire your restraint. You knew he wasn't there to engage in meaningful discourse. Just to hector the public and further preach his lies in a setting that might have convinced some members of a gullible public that what he was saying was true.

Turning your backs on him and using that particular quote on the banner was the most effective thing to do.

BRAVO! I hope you all end up on the Supreme Court ( unfortunately,it'll be long after I'm gone) to help bail the country out of this fascist nightmare.

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bless you
Posted by: parise on Jan 28, 2006 9:02 AM   
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we all talk so much and so few of us do a damn thing. thank you. maybe there is reason to hope.

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I appreciate your courage and dedication to the law.
Posted by: patti_s on Jan 28, 2006 2:41 PM   
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I salute you and the principles you stood for. I know the founding fathers would be proud of you.
The only terror I feel is the terror of this administration. Patti_s.

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Praise
Posted by: lpericol on Jan 29, 2006 5:50 AM   
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Praise the entire pantheon for the ideals of youth. Your commitment to truth and justice is very much appreciated. I hope the fever spreads to other college campuses.

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PROUD OF THE PATRIOTS
Posted by: Skipper on Jan 29, 2006 8:53 AM   
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Thank you for not allowing Bush to use your school as a backdrop for his latest usurpation of power. God knows he's misused enough backdrops during his tenure, and at great expense to the American people.

I'm an NC Grandma who's proud of the courage of the young law students; this protest was especially meaningful, coming from those who are actively studying the law! I'm glad you stood up for the reputation of your school, and for the rule of law! Bravo!!

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clinker
Posted by: cottontail on Jan 29, 2006 9:56 PM   
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The president has three more years. With the likes of an Alberto Gonzales heading the "justice" department, a corrupt congress that includes a gutless opposition party, and an ultra-conservative supreme court, and a lap-dog MSM, who in hell is going to stop him? A phonied-up terrorist 'attack' could postpone or forestall the next election. He can, with impunity, invade Iran, Syria, Venezuela, or whoever he damn chooses. Who can stop him? Will someone tell me?

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i had no clue
Posted by: sierra on Feb 2, 2006 3:17 PM   
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i didnt realize that this was happening.... i feel so naive.....i thank everyone for this protest, its a start for sure!! thanks for making up what i didnt even know about!!

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Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary MacElveen on Feb 2, 2006 8:24 PM   
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All I have to add, is that our founding fathers would have been so proud of these protesters. They were doing exactly what our framers would have wanted us to do.

Mary MacElveen!
Columnist for VHeadline.com

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I saw the program and the protestors -- patriotism at its best!
Posted by: paul_revere on Feb 2, 2006 10:48 PM   
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I saw this program on C-Span. It was at Georgetown University and featured a panel of four people -- law professors David Cole and Martin Lederman of Georgetown University, Professor Robert Turner of the University of Virginia, and David Rivkin, an attorney who served in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations. I was glued to the television throughout the entire program because I was so enchanted with what I witnessed. I was proud of the protestors and also disgusted with some of the speakers.

The first surprise was during the stifling sewer speech by Alberto "Zap your nuts" Gonzalez. What a despicable human being that little runt is! I wish someone could arrest him and torture him so he feels exactly what he's been condoning. I was nearly cheering when the protestors, dressed in black and wearing hoods, stood up in unison, turned their backs to him and unfurled their banner. Gonzalez took notice for a few seconds, but kept spewing from his piehole.

After Gonzalez finished unloading his bullshit swill on the assembly, he rapidly exited the hall (wonder why?) and the panel discussion began.

Of course, the issue was the abuse of power and the breaking of the law by George Bush regarding the NSA wiretaps and eavesdropping. Professors Cole and Lederman tore Turner and Rivken new assholes. These two law professors from Georgetown were sharp, knew the law, based their conclusions on established law and fact, and really garnered my respect. Bottom line -- Bush broke the law (and willingly!).

Professor Cole spoke first. What a guy! Man, he was sharp and pretty much was the star of the discussion. Then, I saw something I couldn't believe. That friggin Dean of the School, who was moderating the panel, tried to insult Professor Cole about taking a few minutes extra in his speech. Man, was I mad! I am still in the process of composing a statement to send to that weasel. Libereal bias, my ass!

Robert Turner spoke after Professor Cole and his first words out of his big fat face was about how ineffective the protestors were. What an asshole! Then, this so-called educator try to cite abstract issues and assumptions without regards to the law, but he was not making sense at all with his arguments. I couldn't believe Turner's lack of reasonable and critical thinking, and I wondered how he could even be a law professor!

Professor Lederman was sharp as a tack and debated Turner's ridiculous assumptions, repelling the falsehoods that Turner was grabbing out of thin air. I was so prould of Lederman!

David Rivken was an absolute joke. Purporting to know what he was talking about, he spewed forth a lot of crude language and stupid arguments, mostly assumptions without legal or historic backing, and it was easy to tell he was just a Reaganite right-wing spokesman -- sort of filler, one might say. He revealed himself to be an illiterate fool, a partisan hack, a thug. Later that night, Rivkin appeared on FOX NAZI NEWS (as I have always called this propaganda machine) to basically complain and whine about how the two law professors beat him up. Oh, my, how the truth doth hurt!

Overall, praise and kudos to those brave protestors. I know quite well what courage it takes to protest these days, especially in front of racist and bigoted stupid white men. And high praise to Professors Cole and Lederman, who just cut those two right-wing blowhards to pieces. It was truly a show of patriotism by those proud enough to call themselves Liberals.

I just have to get a tape of this program!!

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