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Rappers' Delight?

By Aviva Ariel, WireTap. Posted July 21, 2005.


A teenage feminist reflects on the misogyny she just can't seem to escape in today’s hip-hop.
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Although school's out and my summer plans included a heavy load of sleeping and suntanning, I have inadvertently signed up for summer school. Every time I turn on my car radio, I enter Hip-Hop Gender Roles 101, and so far my lessons have made me angrier than Snoop Dogg after a drug bust.

It's as though I enter an alternate universe where a woman's sole purpose on earth is to sexually pleasure her male counterparts. While the men are out "pimping all over the world," I've learned I should be waiting "clothes off, face down, ass up," and even though this would seem like a great deal (my man can struggle with airport security and jet lag while I lay back and work on my yoga stretches), I have become increasingly revolted by the messages blaring out from my stereo.

Rappers make millions of dollars off lines like "Game is the topic/ And what's between your legs is the product/ Use it properly/ And you'll make dollars bitch" or my personal favorite "Can you control your hoe? (You got a bitch that won't do what you say)/ You can't control your hoe? (She hardheaded, she just won't obey)/ You've got to put that bitch in her place, even if it's slapping her in her face," and despite the fact that these rhymes are filthier than Lil' Jon's dreadlocks, it is not their overt sexism or violent sexual references that make my jaw drop (like it's hot) -- it is my realization that these lyrics do more than entertain my male peers. Instead of simply promoting fads like Lacoste shirts and Cristal, through their music, rappers are spreading their views on women to an audience of teenage boys larger than Fat Joe's waistline, and I feel the effects everywhere I go.

From the school hallway, where on more than one occasion I have heard comments about the way I fit in my jeans, to the mall parking lot where pick-up lines usually begin with "Ooh, sexy ... " teenage boys express the same misogynistic sentiments as their rapping idols. I know that music is not the only driving force behind their behavior, but I believe rap's influence on my peers is stronger than the light reflecting off Jay-Z's ice.

My logic is simple. If 50 Cent and Nelly can gain immeasurable fame from replacing the words woman, girlfriend, and female with slut, bitch, ho, and numerous other creative terms, why should it be inappropriate when 17-year-olds, like an endearing boy named Brian that I met at a friend's house last Friday night, ask their friend if there are "any hot vaginas at the party in Solon?" And when I am accosted by lyrics like "I said it must be your ass 'cause it ain't your face" each time I tune into my city's hip-hop station, should I be surprised when I hear, "Walk that ass back over here, girl," as I take a stroll through my neighborhood? (At least rappers have the decency to rhyme when they are being chauvinistic and degrading.)

The truth, however, is that my tastes in hip-hop do not fall into simple categories, and although some of this music really does make me lose control, I love wilin' out to good rap as much as the next kid—there are numerous empowering female rap artists who continually impress me with their music. No matter where I am, for example, when a Missy Elliot song comes on, my hips start going like a Hawaiian dancer on a dashboard and I know I will never feel repulsed by her rhymes.

Queen Latifah, too, consistently makes me happier than Akon after his prison release with her "I'll rap your chauvinist butts into a hole" attitude, and I'm always up for a talk about sex if Salt 'n' Pepa are the ones moderating the discussion. But even my classification of some rappers isn't as simple as Lil' Romeo's lyrics; although the majority of his music is distasteful, I can't deny that Snoop's most popular hits make me want to keep the party going till six in the morning.

My conflicted music moods have really got my bling-bling in a bundle. When Eminem starts rapping about "an ass like that," my first reaction is to swear off hip-hop and join the LeAnn Rimes fan club, but how can I when I'd be Will Smith's "party starter" Saturday through Sunday and Monday through Sunday (yo)? And though I truly don't care who Mike Jones is -- even now that he has his grill -- because I've never wanted to be his "dime that's top of the line: cute face, slim waist, with a big behind," does that mean I can't get on the "good foot" with Timbaland?

After debating the issue in my mind like Lil' Kim on the witness stand (except my dilemma won't end me up in jail), I've finally come to some conclusions.

Even though I have problems (99 even?) with rap because it can send messages that make teenage girls more likely to feel emotional and physical abuse are acceptable in healthy relationships, and even though I feel defeated every time I turn off my car radio because I can't find a station playing songs I am comfortable listening to with the windows down, I'll just hope that one day in the spirit of MC Lyte and Ms. Melodie, the future of popular radio will include new songs that don't make me want to alert NOW.

Until then I'll just have to wait for the day when my radio dial doesn't have to jump around (searching for the right station) like the women in Kanye's Work Out song.

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Aviva Ariel, 17, will be a senior at Shaker Heights High School in Ohio. She is the editor-in-chief of her high school newspaper, The Shakerite, the president of Take Action, a mentoring club for elementary school students, and a monthly columnist for Ms. Magazine online.

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Try listening to decent rap
Posted by: bostonbeerguy on Jul 21, 2005 6:51 AM   
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You might want to expand your world of hip-hop past what's on the radio station. There's more to rap then Lil Jon, Fat Joe, and 50 Cent. Try anything by Jurassic 5, Blackalicious, and The Roots. You won't hear any degradation of women in any of their stuff, plus they actually have talent, unlike most of the commercially popular rappers you bitch about.

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» RE: Try listening to decent rap Posted by: oberweiser
elsie
Posted by: trurel on Jul 21, 2005 7:49 AM   
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I'm an old man who is driven crazy by rap and lots of other loud music, but I'm really impressed with the young lady's mature outlook, self knowledge, and creative writing ability. I hope she Keeps it up.

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Sorry, girl, but it's a woman's lot to teach men...
Posted by: Sojourner on Jul 21, 2005 8:11 AM   
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...especially about sex. Good to know you know what you like and what you don't like. Stick to your guns (or whatever they call it these days) and you'll find guys willing to learn (at least I sure hope you will; I hear the sisters muttering in the background).

It wasn't any easier back in my heyday, and we were all sure a whole lot dumber, about what's happening, back then.

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» A woman who can't say, "No"... Posted by: Sojourner
Listen to WHAT she is trying to say
Posted by: ethansmom on Jul 21, 2005 9:29 AM   
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I am a mother of two teenaged daughters so I know where the author is coming from. She is expressing her frustration at what negative and degrading views towards females are becoming normalized from this type of music and it's lyrics. She KNOWS there are alternate forms of music as she stated. My daughters can also attest to the fact that girls/women are way too tolerant of the dehuminizing attitude from our societies males. Many of the females who are on the receiving end of this type treatment laugh or brush it off and simply accept it because it is so "normal".

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There is an alternative
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Jul 21, 2005 12:43 PM   
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Very good piece. But as others here remarked, there is other kinds of music to listen to beside the rappers you described.
I see your point of view, and true, much of the lyrics are degrading, but remember you're not like that and if you don't like what you hear, change the station.
Common is good (he's hot now) or even listen to old school if you want. But after all, it's your choice. It's what sells; they're selling you an image, so remember that.

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» RE: There is an alternative Posted by: Lendervedder
» RE: There is an alternative Posted by: Olympiada
Try listening to music other than rap
Posted by: NonnyO on Jul 21, 2005 12:51 PM   
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There are alternative music genres that are more positive to listen to other than rap.

How about moldie oldie R & R with love song lyrics, even the "silly love songs" with sweet and sappy words? How about Jazz, R & B? How about Broadway tunes and Classical music? How about Bluegrass and Folk music? How about ethnic music from around the world? How about Big Band music from the 30s & 40s? How about anything but rap? A variety of music can broaden one's horizons, and it's also educational....

Besides the fact that variety is the spice of life, rap is not the only kind of music out there nowadays, and the misogynistic lyrics are deplorable. I do not advocate censorship, but I do advocate listeners turning off the radio stations that play such hate, and I do advocate not buying music by "artists" who continually spew hate and violent content in what they describe as "music." That, IMHO, is not "music" to appreciate. (And, besides which, some weak females may accept the abuse she hears about in lyrics if she has no positive female role models to follow to get herself out of bad situations.)

Real music from a variety of genres makes the listener cry with sad lyrics, think philosophically when the music is thoughtful, and happy music makes a listener smile, feel good emotionally and mentally, and tap her/his toes, dance, and sing along......

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I concur...
Posted by: kittynboi on Jul 21, 2005 6:21 PM   
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...with the others who say the solution is to look to genres of music other than corporate radio rap.

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» Check me out Posted by: dynahsty
Lots to go around...
Posted by: rayo on Jul 22, 2005 10:08 AM   
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While I agree with the author about rap, it does seem that this genre receives the majority of visibility regarding its role in profiting from the maintenance of sexist stereotypes. If rap were the only problem, however, we could consider ourselves fortunate. Though this sexism may not be as apparent in other genres, it's there. In fact, it seems to pervade most of our society. Case in point? Bush's nomination to the Supreme Court further strengthens the appearance of a good-ol'-boy network and drives home the point that women are not, when in comes down to it, highly valued in significant portions of our culture.

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» RE: Lots to go around... Posted by: kittynboi
» RE: Lots to go around... Posted by: Olympiada
» amen friend. Posted by: kittykat
» RE: amen friend. Posted by: Aviva
"They cry keepin' it real but they should try keepin' it right!"
Posted by: theaphro on Jul 25, 2005 6:32 PM   
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...apologies to De La Soul ["The Bizness" feat. Common, Stakes is High]

Mad props to Aviva on her writing skills. A lot of folks probably missed her knack for "sampling" throughout the piece. The "hip hop generation" benefits from the arts of emceeing, deejaying, graffiting writing and burning, and b-boying, in learning to draw references from wide and varied sources to express complex ideas. Little doubt the advent of hip-hop coincided with the advent of the information age. Hyperlinks are in our blood.

The problem Aviva points out is not just the problem of the boys (and girls) of her generation but the problem we're seeing in all of America. Industries from music, to toys (Bratz dolls, hellooo???), to movies and television entertainment (do I even need to give examples here?), to retail (Walmart), manufacturing (Nike), and even our government (oh...where to begin!?) worship at the alter of the bottom line, and in turn, the lowest common denominator. No longer can retail realize profits, it seems, without slave labor. National elections can't be run without stirring up hornets nests of prejudice and fear-mongering. We want the profit, we want the bling, we want the booty-shaking, with none of the consequences. We fail to realize "the shiny apple is bruised but sweet, and if you choose to eat, you could lose your teeth." [Black Star feat. Common, "Respiration", Black Star].

There's a strong contingent of quality hip hop artists out there who "write freedom songs for the REAL people" [Common, "Real People", Be], and they're not just limited to those artists "sampled" above. Aviva, don't despair or worry that brainless, bawdy, scatoalogical, sophomoric, and misogynistic entertainment is limited to our generation or even to Hip Hop. From "Animal House" to "Wedding Crashers" it's as American as apple pie (or "American Pie"...hmmm).

The difference is escapism as permanent residence versus occassional retreat. And Aviva's generation, like mine and each of our own (if you don't think so, just drop by your local rehab or dialysis clinic) struggle against the temptation to make cheap entertainment a long-term refuge from the stresses, anxieties and fears (real and/or manufactured) of everyday life.

Good luck Aviva. A lot's been left to us Hip Hoppas to fix. In the meantime "keep ya head up." [Tupac Shakur]

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p.s. how does all that crappy music get airplay?
Posted by: theaphro on Jul 26, 2005 8:17 AM   
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Expand and diversify
Posted by: chivi on Jul 27, 2005 4:13 PM   
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Music, movies, literature.... they cannot determine your behavior, much less who you are. The simplicity of this Pavlovian account of music and sexism irritates me. No one factor can account for sexism.
In my opinion, the problem runs much deeper: it is a problem of vocabularies (loosely speaking). It seems that this girl lives in a place that broadcasts (in the broadest sense of the word) and uses (again, the broadest sense) only rap. Well, if your vocabulary is limited to rap, well, that´s a pretty narrow symbolic place to live in.
Yet, she certainly appears intelligent enough to look beyond that vocabulary, to listen to -as many others have posted- other kinds of music. To discover other vocabularies.
Reading Mein Kampf doesn't turn you into a Nazi. Listening to classic punk doesn't drive you to nihilism. Watching porn doesn´t turn you into a sex-crazed pervert. Reggae doesn´t promote marihuana smoking.
Those things don't happen if you strive to expand your vocabulary: read many different books, listen to all kinds of music, watch different kinds of movies. Try doing it simultaneously. Then you can compare and contrast, and those many different vocabularies modulate each other.
It can´t be only the music. That´s simplistic.

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which is the cause and which is the effect?
Posted by: phyxius on Jul 27, 2005 8:46 PM   
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Does the public talk that way because rappers do, or do rappers talk that way because the public does? Hm? There will always be people that talk like that, therefore there will always be famous people who talk like that.

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I won't listen to one word
Posted by: janvdb on Jul 27, 2005 9:21 PM   
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I so dislike being slapped in the face with some disgusting line -- and who can tell when one will spurt out of your radio when you're on a rap station -- that the second I hear that it's rap, I just turn it off.

Surely there are millions more who do the same.

Why does this stuff sell? Well, Cleartalk, one of the most conservative organizations around, controls thousands of stations and other media companies are just as hand-in-glove with the right wing. They can make something popular just by playing it all the time and saying it's popular. They want to create dissension in the left by making blacks look like a bunch of criminals and encouraging liberal men to abuse women.

It's all about setting us against each other.

We're being manipulated.

Jan VanDenBerg

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Great job!
Posted by: otis4 on Jul 28, 2005 9:37 AM   
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Keep up the good work! You are a good role model for young women everywhere.

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Direct connections....
Posted by: LittleO on Jul 28, 2005 10:19 AM   
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With an ever increasing rise in abuse of all forms, specifically in the domestic world, this article comes as a breath of fresh air. Teen dating violence is alarming - not just from a man to a women but also from women to men. Just think about how frustrating it is to be young and a women. The clothes are tighter, smaller, shorter, and more see through than ever and it is acceptable to wear daisy dukes to summer school. Women are either supposed to be empowered (meaning tough and in control) or subdued and passive. Either route leads to abuse and violence among relationships, even starting at the age of 11. Having radio stations play these songs on a daily basis confirms a social acceptance of this language and bahavior. It astonishes me that a radio station cannot play Blac Eyed Peas original version of "Let's Get Retarded:, but yet "A Little Bit" is a constant favorite. The first is a positve attribution to getting crazy and happy, the second is about how it shoudl be expected to unbutton your pants from the first time we meet so I can be sexual with you - but hey no sensor in that!!!!!

I am happy to see a young woman being so honest with the affect that music does have on our younger generation. They wear belts that say things like: " Give me that Pu**Y" and that is okay. I am afarid to have children.

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» I am afarid to have children. Posted by: Olympiada
Stop Talking and DO Something
Posted by: Kym525 on Jul 28, 2005 7:36 PM   
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This article says all the right things, but the question is, when are we as women - BLACK women especially - going to stop giving some of these rappers a 'free pass' to demean us? When are we going to start putting our dollars where it makes the most sense - which is supporting artists who show proper respect for women? When are we as women going to start putting out 'brothas' in check? Until any of that happens, and we're serious about it - this is just another futile exercise. It's rather telling to me when a group like Destiny's Child goes from 'Independent Women' to 'Survivor' to 'Soljah' in less than a few years. We need to seriously channel the spirits of Harriet Tubman and Sojourner Truth - I doubt they'd let any of these 'bling bling' rappers call them 'bitches and hoes'.

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Why don't we hear "good" Hip-Hop on the radio?
Posted by: jugdish88 on Aug 1, 2005 9:26 AM   
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Indeed. There are people and groups out there who do not accept this mysoginist concept. Dead Prez, with their song Mid Sex comes glaringly to mind. Its a song about talking with a female, not to her. Waiting to have sex until they know each other better, and finding out what the woman thinks and feels. And the song is definetly directed as a rebuttle to the mysoginist crowd. But you don't hear them on the radio. You barely hear Common, the Roots, Jurassic 5, anyone who is decent. I was just having this converstion with my boy, and I said that I think it is because of the messages that they (Common, Dead Prez, Roots, etc.) express that keeps them off. In addition to anti-mysoginy, they are for changing the system and helping out the Ghettos. They simply won't settle for making wads of cash and forgetting where they came from. Well, they won't forget what needs to be DONE where they came from, not what IS being done where they came from. Thats why they won't get the big deals and the radio air time. They want to change things, and in this environment, that is still scary to a lot of people.

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PR
Posted by: tiffanycarr on Aug 11, 2005 4:19 PM   
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Hey Sis you are on point. Would be interested in you reviewing some upcoming artist music out of the atlanta market. Feel free to email me for more info. thesenatepr@yahoo.com

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Robin Morgan's delight?
Posted by: TaketeMalouma on Sep 15, 2005 8:39 AM   
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The author complains about woman-hating rappers, yet she has no conscientious problems contributing to a platform where the official editorial line of thought is, 'I feel that man-hating is an honorable and viable political act'. Oh well, I feel that the only difference between misogynist rappers and misandrist Robin Morgan is that the former's target audience has less opportunities to obtain education that enables the use of phrases like "honorable and viable political act". Hence their hate speech is not of Robin Morgan's silk-gloved variety.

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Don't Judge All Artists By A Few
Posted by: Outlaw2DaDeath on Nov 6, 2005 12:22 PM   
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i agree with some of the other posts here, you should look at other artists. But you should not be angered by there words unless you are the type of women that they talk about and you do not seem to be. I believe that the women who these rappers talk about are not innocent ladies but are instead groupies, and women who will do just about anything to get some money. Maybe you should listen to 2Pac's songs "Neva call you bytch again" or "brenda's got a baby" or "Keep Ya Head Up" this may give you a different outlook on where these artists are coming from and the type of women that give themselves up to these rich entrepenuers.

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