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Generation Y's Silent Protest
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But then, after about 15 of them had offered up their plans on the altar of their fleeting youth, one kid, Mike, blurted out, "I'm going into the Navy."
And just like that, they dropped the whole thing - like a penny tossed over the edge of a skyscraper.
It was just about the most abrupt thing I'd ever seen: all of them getting up and filing out onto the beach-front deck, leaving poor Mike to play video games all by himself, like the biggest buzz-kill of the century.
So maybe even for the younger members of this '90s generation -- who were born to speak Chat, who grew up in the glory years of America's last big boom, when business moved fast and information faster -- there actually was something sacred after all.
We've all heard sociologists say our so-called Generation Y or "echo boom" is the largest American generation since the baby boomers, boasting a projected population of about 62 million. So, then, with all these kids (myself included), why can't we seem to find anybody willing to fight the president's "war on terror"? And why would someone saying he wanted to go clear out a whole room?
I'd suspect we're not putting one and one together here.
We can't just chalk this up to a lack of military incentives when the armed forces are willing to shell out something like $70,000 per soldier. With a GI Bill like that, you'd assume that of all the Gen Ys planning on going to college (some 15 million of whom enrolled last year), there'd be at least a few more taking the bait.
But then, we all know what they say about that word assume.
And we also know that with the military's enlistment numbers at an all-time low (down 40 percent in April, for instance), some recruiters have stooped to using underhanded means, largely responsible for the military's suspension of recruiting operations May 20.
So let me floor another possibility: Maybe this isn't a problem the "almighty dollar" can solve. Maybe it's a matter of generational politics.
Consider: As of November, Gen Y made up only 7 percent to 8 percent of the total electorate. That means that those of us who were old enough to vote had to contend with the overwhelming ballot counts of our parents' and grandparents' generations. But it seems that in the face of basically having our political lunches handed to us this go-round, we've made up the difference - not with our parents' wild flood-the-reflecting-pool protests, but with something else entirely: an unspoken civil disobedience.
What better way to shoot down another bad cliché - "Old men make wars, and young men fight them" - and replace it with our generational anthem: "Why?"
Or even more to the point: "Why fight?"
If most of Gen Y can ignore older Americans' perceived need for war, just think what kind of progressive force we'll be when we make up an electoral majority.
But even if this weren't enough, tack on what some are calling our "immorality" (or more probably, our rejection of traditional religion), and it's pretty obvious how this equation works out. By the time the last Gen Y comes of age, the strongly moralistic Republican Party (primarily responsible for our nation's New Crusade) won't have a leg to stand on.
So here's a suggestion to all of the outdated models up on Capitol Hill: Chill.
Maybe if you had in the first place, your electoral outlook for the next 20 years wouldn't seem so bleak. For now, enjoy the power you've got with this one little caveat in mind: Since you seem to want to play in your sandbox so much, you will end up fighting the war with something like "an army of one."
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Posted by: itchyvet on Jul 8, 2005 6:13 AM
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However, after reading the above article, was so pleased to discover these same youthful people actually share my views on this subject.
What a relief this is to me, and a very bright light at the end of the tunnel, my most sincerest wish now is that many of these young people survive the tribulations confronting us to reach voting age and use that vote, to rid us of these murderous thugs in the Whitehouse today.
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Posted by: ashifrass on Jul 8, 2005 8:26 AM
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Lately i've been growing concerned about how this country is going to be when I have children and a family. The thought of moving to a small, unpopulated island has crossed my mind quite a few times. However, after reading your article it's given me a sense of hope and reason for staying. I think the U.S has the potential to be great if your article proves to be true.
Thank You!
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Posted by: susan9390 on Jul 8, 2005 9:12 AM
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If the current regime is to end, we must come out of our closets and demonstrate solidarity. Why? Because THEY do. They learned long ago that there is strength in numbers. We must exercise our influence within our own sphere to reinforce and empower one another through unified action, despite trivial differences in personal agendas. Why? Because THEY do. All sides are starting to realize that you really can't change anyone's mind. Instead, you must magnify your own perceived power to intimidate them. That's what THEY do! We must cross demographics of generation, race, and lifestyle, like THEY do.
I have one correction to make about that $70K GI bill you mentioned. That only applies to those who become career officers, get timely promotions, and retire in good standing. The typical joe who serves a three- or four-year tour of duty is lucky to get $2- or $3K. That's just one of a cluster of lies told to the gullible eligible by the recruiters. Please go back to your lonely friend with the video games and let him know that they lie. Also, let him know that when you really get wounded, or radiation poisoned, or lose a limb, there is no reset button.
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Posted by: Mountaineer on Jul 8, 2005 10:10 AM
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But then again, how many millionair children are there fighting in Iraq? Probably zero...
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Posted by: ajzaprmcf on Jul 8, 2005 10:31 AM
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Perhaps we young people are smarter than a lot of people give us credit for; not willing to die for a cuase that isn't just.
Oh and one more thing, I have to put in here, when are poeple going to realize that we can't fight the wat on terror by military means, we are only perpetuating the bad images they have of us, our culture, our politics, and our society. This isn't a army that oyu can defeat, as logn as we pursue thsi foriegn policy there will always be people willing to join the terrorist ranks.
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Posted by: philame on Jul 8, 2005 2:03 PM
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Because I never go to the middle parts of the country, it is easy to believe (from the media) that the entire midwest is being swept by an evangelical christian wave origniating in Texan megachurches.
How committed are echo boomers to their parents' evangelical movement? I'd like to hear from some young people from the midwest on that. What are you seeing?
I am also going to be annoying and criticize "the kids of today" but I will try not to make this a lecture and instead put it as a question: what is this whole concept of "chilling" in the context of politics about? What do you mean? I don't see how being political and being chill about it go together. I hope it is a call to end extremism and not privilege causing apathy. Please please please let it be option 1! But it is probably a combo of both...
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Posted by: TALYN on Jul 8, 2005 4:07 PM
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1. They believe the war is bullpoop
2. They realize that bush is lying to us
3. Most are anti-abortion, but pro-choice. they dont like it but they like the right to choose it.
4. Most teens smoke
5. Almost all of them have at least tried marijuanna
6. Most have at least studied if not practiced a religion other than their parents.
Youths today tend to be relatively liberal, and open minded. The sad part is most feel that they have no say in how this country is run. They want changes, but have no idea how to change anything. Access to resources and information is limited and hard to find, and they dont have hours to spend searching. I only found this website by accident and i'm glad I have, and have been telling many of my peers about AlterNet. Don't give up on the kids, they just need a little help figuring out how to do it, and when they do they'll change the world.
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Posted by: just tina on Jul 8, 2005 5:33 PM
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It makes me so proud. It's your generation guys---this is your adult youth--- carry the torch and keep a steady flame (if the "quiet" flames work, go with it).
Don't let the government take your freedom and use you for evil ends.
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Posted by: Jumpcity on Jul 8, 2005 10:41 PM
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My own generation, the so called "Baby Boomers", didn't just refuse to join a volunteer army - we protested and ended a war that started out very much like the present situation. We refused induction in massive numbers, and ran away to Canada and other sympathetic nations - many refused induction then went to jail for their beliefs. So the idea that Gen Y's level of "resistance" is even comparable to what was happening during the Viet Nam war is not very compelling.
Moreover, my generation now ARE the electoral majority and a lot of us, I am sad to say, have swallowed the Bushies' point of view hook, line and sinker.
So don't think that you can predict anything about what your generation is going to do 30 or 40 years down the road. Lots can happen in that time to change their attitudes.
Growing up, for one thing...
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Posted by: Alan in CA on Jul 10, 2005 10:22 AM
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Posted by: Uncle Crabby on Jul 10, 2005 3:48 PM
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I stand with (and stood with) those who breathed the tear gas poured out on those of us who had the AUDACITY to protest the war in Vietnam, in which I lost two friends, one to death, and one to damage. I am proud to be, in some small way, a part of the movement that got us the hell out of that debacle!
Now, we have "more of the same" in office, dragging us into more unecessary war, lining the pockets of the evil, and causing our country to be even more hated by the world.
Please, give Bush what he is calling for. Make him fight his Crusade with an army of one. Stay the hell out of the mess. See the message of hate being delivered by the so-called Christians for what it is. What happened to the important rules? Thou shalt not kill. Judge ye not lest ... and let's not even get into the golden rule, after the mess Bush made of it!
You guys have your job cut out for you right here! Members of my generation have sold your (our) country out. They sell technology to the largest communist nation on the face of the earth, while closing down our manufacturing and handing to them as well, all for their own short-term gain.
Where will your world be when you hold the reigns of power? I don't think its looking all that great for you, but my old yuppie buddies could care less! Voting their cronies out is the only answer, and you can do it!
I know you won't get sucked in by the Crusades rhetoric, or the short-term greed syndrome afflicting so many of those in my generation. Thank you! End of rant.
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Posted by: bar5608 on Jul 10, 2005 10:56 PM
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Not the election four years down the road, but the one just two years away, when we'll have the chance to change this Congress to something more like something made in America. It won't be too difficult. Afterall, all we have to do is tell the truth, while their whole system and viewpoint is a lie, and they have to lie to support it. And now that Karl Rove has been outed, our job should be that much easier.
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Posted by: itchyvet on Jul 8, 2005 6:13 AM
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However, after reading the above article, was so pleased to discover these same youthful people actually share my views on this subject.
What a relief this is to me, and a very bright light at the end of the tunnel, my most sincerest wish now is that many of these young people survive the tribulations confronting us to reach voting age and use that vote, to rid us of these murderous thugs in the Whitehouse today.
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Posted by: ashifrass on Jul 8, 2005 8:26 AM
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Lately i've been growing concerned about how this country is going to be when I have children and a family. The thought of moving to a small, unpopulated island has crossed my mind quite a few times. However, after reading your article it's given me a sense of hope and reason for staying. I think the U.S has the potential to be great if your article proves to be true.
Thank You!
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Posted by: susan9390 on Jul 8, 2005 9:12 AM
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If the current regime is to end, we must come out of our closets and demonstrate solidarity. Why? Because THEY do. They learned long ago that there is strength in numbers. We must exercise our influence within our own sphere to reinforce and empower one another through unified action, despite trivial differences in personal agendas. Why? Because THEY do. All sides are starting to realize that you really can't change anyone's mind. Instead, you must magnify your own perceived power to intimidate them. That's what THEY do! We must cross demographics of generation, race, and lifestyle, like THEY do.
I have one correction to make about that $70K GI bill you mentioned. That only applies to those who become career officers, get timely promotions, and retire in good standing. The typical joe who serves a three- or four-year tour of duty is lucky to get $2- or $3K. That's just one of a cluster of lies told to the gullible eligible by the recruiters. Please go back to your lonely friend with the video games and let him know that they lie. Also, let him know that when you really get wounded, or radiation poisoned, or lose a limb, there is no reset button.
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Posted by: Mountaineer on Jul 8, 2005 10:10 AM
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But then again, how many millionair children are there fighting in Iraq? Probably zero...
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Posted by: ajzaprmcf on Jul 8, 2005 10:31 AM
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Perhaps we young people are smarter than a lot of people give us credit for; not willing to die for a cuase that isn't just.
Oh and one more thing, I have to put in here, when are poeple going to realize that we can't fight the wat on terror by military means, we are only perpetuating the bad images they have of us, our culture, our politics, and our society. This isn't a army that oyu can defeat, as logn as we pursue thsi foriegn policy there will always be people willing to join the terrorist ranks.
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Because I never go to the middle parts of the country, it is easy to believe (from the media) that the entire midwest is being swept by an evangelical christian wave origniating in Texan megachurches.
How committed are echo boomers to their parents' evangelical movement? I'd like to hear from some young people from the midwest on that. What are you seeing?
I am also going to be annoying and criticize "the kids of today" but I will try not to make this a lecture and instead put it as a question: what is this whole concept of "chilling" in the context of politics about? What do you mean? I don't see how being political and being chill about it go together. I hope it is a call to end extremism and not privilege causing apathy. Please please please let it be option 1! But it is probably a combo of both...
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Posted by: TALYN on Jul 8, 2005 4:07 PM
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1. They believe the war is bullpoop
2. They realize that bush is lying to us
3. Most are anti-abortion, but pro-choice. they dont like it but they like the right to choose it.
4. Most teens smoke
5. Almost all of them have at least tried marijuanna
6. Most have at least studied if not practiced a religion other than their parents.
Youths today tend to be relatively liberal, and open minded. The sad part is most feel that they have no say in how this country is run. They want changes, but have no idea how to change anything. Access to resources and information is limited and hard to find, and they dont have hours to spend searching. I only found this website by accident and i'm glad I have, and have been telling many of my peers about AlterNet. Don't give up on the kids, they just need a little help figuring out how to do it, and when they do they'll change the world.
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Posted by: just tina on Jul 8, 2005 5:33 PM
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It makes me so proud. It's your generation guys---this is your adult youth--- carry the torch and keep a steady flame (if the "quiet" flames work, go with it).
Don't let the government take your freedom and use you for evil ends.
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Posted by: Jumpcity on Jul 8, 2005 10:41 PM
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My own generation, the so called "Baby Boomers", didn't just refuse to join a volunteer army - we protested and ended a war that started out very much like the present situation. We refused induction in massive numbers, and ran away to Canada and other sympathetic nations - many refused induction then went to jail for their beliefs. So the idea that Gen Y's level of "resistance" is even comparable to what was happening during the Viet Nam war is not very compelling.
Moreover, my generation now ARE the electoral majority and a lot of us, I am sad to say, have swallowed the Bushies' point of view hook, line and sinker.
So don't think that you can predict anything about what your generation is going to do 30 or 40 years down the road. Lots can happen in that time to change their attitudes.
Growing up, for one thing...
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Posted by: Alan in CA on Jul 10, 2005 10:22 AM
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Posted by: Uncle Crabby on Jul 10, 2005 3:48 PM
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I stand with (and stood with) those who breathed the tear gas poured out on those of us who had the AUDACITY to protest the war in Vietnam, in which I lost two friends, one to death, and one to damage. I am proud to be, in some small way, a part of the movement that got us the hell out of that debacle!
Now, we have "more of the same" in office, dragging us into more unecessary war, lining the pockets of the evil, and causing our country to be even more hated by the world.
Please, give Bush what he is calling for. Make him fight his Crusade with an army of one. Stay the hell out of the mess. See the message of hate being delivered by the so-called Christians for what it is. What happened to the important rules? Thou shalt not kill. Judge ye not lest ... and let's not even get into the golden rule, after the mess Bush made of it!
You guys have your job cut out for you right here! Members of my generation have sold your (our) country out. They sell technology to the largest communist nation on the face of the earth, while closing down our manufacturing and handing to them as well, all for their own short-term gain.
Where will your world be when you hold the reigns of power? I don't think its looking all that great for you, but my old yuppie buddies could care less! Voting their cronies out is the only answer, and you can do it!
I know you won't get sucked in by the Crusades rhetoric, or the short-term greed syndrome afflicting so many of those in my generation. Thank you! End of rant.
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Posted by: bar5608 on Jul 10, 2005 10:56 PM
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Not the election four years down the road, but the one just two years away, when we'll have the chance to change this Congress to something more like something made in America. It won't be too difficult. Afterall, all we have to do is tell the truth, while their whole system and viewpoint is a lie, and they have to lie to support it. And now that Karl Rove has been outed, our job should be that much easier.
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Fundamentalist Camp Trains God's Little Army
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