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Water

Five Things You Need to Know about Hurricanes

By Carl Pope, Huffington Post. Posted September 8, 2008.


Three years after Katrina and a week since Gustav, we are in need of a sobering reminder of some basic truths.
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Three years ago Katrina devastated New Orleans and upended American politics. Gustav has proved to be kinder, at least so far, to the Crescent City and to the Gulf Coast in general, but it was still a sobering reminder of some basic truths. Its impact on politics remains to be seen.

Truth 1: Hurricanes are big; nature is bigger. Natural systems, not engineered ones, are the only defenses big enough to rely on in a big storm. Hurricanes get their energy from passing over heated water and lose it when they hit land. Storm surge builds in open water but dissipates rapidly in coastal wetlands or barrier islands. One acre of wetlands typically absorbs one million gallons of water.

South Louisiana is in such big trouble because we allowed its wetlands to be starved -- courtesy of the Army Corps of Engineers -- of the natural silt and sand that fed them and because they were then opened up to storm surge and erosion -- courtesy of oil and gas drilling. Our first priority on the Gulf Coast after immediate recovery needs to be wetlands restoration. Otherwise, it's only a matter of time before the coastal regions become uninhabitable or vanish beneath the waves.

Truth 2: This is not new news. The oldest parts of New Orleans survived Katrina the best because the first French settlers built on "higher ground." Indeed, for most of human history, people built, whenever they could, on higher ground. They didn't need an environmental impact statement to tell them. It was common sense. They knew how big nature was and how important natural defenses were, so they used them. This common sense began to go astray in the mid nineteenth century. The Victorians, who were the first to believe that man could conquer nature, tried to relocate the capital city of colonial India, Calcutta, from its inland location behind the mangrove islands of the Sundarbans -- India's equivalent to Louisiana's wetlands. A few voices protested that Port Canning, the new city on the edge of the Bay of Bengal was doomed to die in a typhoon. But the British Raj, in the full flush of its hubris, went ahead anyway and copied Calcutta on the end of the sea. Five years later, the typhoon came, Port Canning vanished, and the Raj scuttled back to Calcutta.

Truth 3: Twentieth-century America took the Victorian pride in the ability to conquer nature and put it on steroids. The vast network of dams and reservoirs, canals, and water projects that we have built, is constructed on the delusion we can control nature. And as climate changes, these "engineering marvels" are rapidly becoming obsolescent. Thanks to drought, Glen Canyon Dam is no longer needed to store the water of the Colorado. It didn't need to be drained by the Sierra Club or Earth First -- the climate took care of it.

Truth 4: Although human systems are only a supplement to natural defenses, they are essential -- and they are the job of government. A government unable to finish the job of repairing New Orleans in the interval between Katrina and the arrival of Gustav is a government too small and too weak to keep us safe. Keeping taxes low will not defend the Gulf Coast against the bigger-than-Katrina monster sure to come.

Truth 5: It really doesn't matter -- for these purposes -- whether you think Katrina and Gustav are evidence that global warming has already arrived, or that they are merely harbingers of what climate change will be like when it arrives. It actually doesn't matter whether you think climate change is human-caused or a myth. Any way you look at it, for the past eight years the U.S. government has failed abysmally in one of its most fundamental duties -- to identify, prepare for, and cope with weather-caused natural disasters. The basic philosophy espoused by Grover Norquist, who has held this Administration terrorized in the palm of his hands, is that the federal government should be shrunk until it was small enough to drown in a bathtub. The actual consequence was that New Orleans became a bathtub. It doesn't matter what ideology you subscribe to -- we needed more, not less, government in the years before and after Katrina.

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Permaculture wetland repair
Posted by: mgmyers79 on Sep 8, 2008 6:08 PM   
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Awesome article, and you are right. The only thing to be done for our southeastern coasts is to repair the wetland ecosystems. Gustav was still going strong when it hit Little Rock with over 30 inches of rain over three days. The people on the coast are not the only ones in danger, my corn and tomatoes were flattened.

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A Refreshing Change - It Must Be Getting Colder at The Sierra Club HQ
Posted by: opmoc on Sep 9, 2008 4:14 AM   
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The standing convention is that with articles such as this you're supposed to scream that Hurricanes et al are getting far worse due to man-made global warming and that we must cut our CO2 emmisions.

Your not supposed to say things like this

"It really doesn't matter -- for these purposes -- whether you think Katrina and Gustav are evidence that global warming has already arrived, or that they are merely harbingers of what climate change will be like when it arrives. It actually doesn't matter whether you think climate change is human-caused or a myth."

How did that get through the approval process / green censorship without being re-written?

As regards the argument about the size of the Federal Government - well it strikes me that Louisiana would be in much better position if it had been able to take full responsibility for its own affairs - particularly as regards to its own environmental defences.

Local people have the local knowledge to know what needs to be done and they should have all the resources and empowerment to look after their own local environment. Relying on some remote Federal Government beuraucrat sat in an office 963 miles away in Washington - to make the correct decisions and provide the necessary funding is a recipe both for the disaster and the response to it. Wanting more of this is nuts.

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» double trouble Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming
Military can alter weather patterns
Posted by: nfamous on Sep 9, 2008 5:18 AM   
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Americans have no idea of the level of secret technology available to the elite. It's all classified and anyone that mentions it is called a conspiracy theorist wacko. Just because something seems impossible doesn't mean it is. The military has technology that can alter weather patterns to produce stronger hurricanes. They have technology that can cause earthquakes. They even have technology that can blot out of the sun, which they've been testing via chemtrails. This is all admitted and not some paranoid delusion. Read about for yourself in unclassified documents at the Library of Congress web site.

It's going to be too late when Americans finally wake up to the fact that we are being depopulated for the elite and global police state. The world is run by a Luciferian cult of while male pederasts. And when I say Lucifer I don't mean any of the mythical Bible crap that everyone knows is false. Read up on the Church of Satan and Laveyan Satanism.

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» Ted Twietmeyer Posted by: rockpicker
» R U a complete idiot? Posted by: rockpicker
» RE: U a complete idiot? Posted by: EncinoM
What about BTR?
Posted by: megamuffin on Sep 9, 2008 5:57 AM   
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The Big Easy got off easy but Baton Rouge is still without power b/c of the numerous trees down. As far inland as BTR is, like AR, it has never experienced this much damage from a hurricane. Each time a hurricane rakes the coast we lose some barriers from the next hurricane. Uninhabitable is right. I evacuated to Oklahoma and I'm still here. I'm waiting for the power to come on and wondering when the light bulb will go off in our government's brain. Louisiana needs serious coastal restoration efforts NOW!

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» RE: What about BTR? Posted by: aussidawg
ATH
Posted by: ATH on Sep 9, 2008 6:06 AM   
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We have an enormous government;It's that they just didn't care. I guarantee you,that if Katrina had struck a wealthy city, like Dallas, that it would have been cleaned up quickly. There are numerous politicians who were delighted at what Katrina had done.I forget who it was that said:"we have been trying to get rid of public housing and the occupants that live there, for years. Katrina did in a day what we haven't been able to do in decades." They wanted the poor to leave New Orleans,which is why they didn't let residents back into their homes, many who had homes that survived, along with their stuff.
Also, the National Guard was practically non-existent, having been deployed to Iraq. We were and are spending aprox 400 billion dollars a month in Iraq. That is evidence of a huge government.
Since we didn't have anything of a National Guard to send in, they sent in Blackwater, which went and removed residents from their homes, handcuffed them on the sidewalk, while they went and removed all their firearms. Now, these people weren't looting, or doing anything illegal. They were simply holed up in their homes, and the only protection they had from looters, robbers, rapists. etc, was taken away from them. Their Second Amendment rights were discarded. No one was left to protect them, either.
I have also heard that Blackwater, instead of arresting looters, merely shot them, and shot some people who were innocent and just in the wrong place @ the wrong time, and of the wrong color.
Our government is more than big enough. It's where it puts its priorities, which, unfortunately, are no longer about representing "We the People," but about serving the special interests of big corporations.
I always quote Mussolini, hoping one day people will understand: Mussolini said, "Fascism should really be called 'Corporatism,' because it's the perfect merger of Corporation(s) and State."
Now, by "State" he is referring to Fed. Gov't.People need to realize that fascism doesn't always look like Hitler's Nazi Party. This corporate/fascist state is much closer to the government we now have than the democratic republic that was intended by the
Founding Fathers.Our Civil Liberties have been eviserated.
A few decades ago, the media was owned by well over 50 different companies and corporations. The media used to be "the 4th estate" and helped keep American citizens informed, and helped keep the government honest. They exposed Watergate.
Real journalism, except by and through independent media that is supported only by viewer contributions, is dead. The reason why is that now, all of mainstream media is controlled by a mere 6 multinational corporations. These corporations do much more than report news. In fact, most of them make a significant amount of their profit from war profiteering. Like GE--I believe they own N.B.C. but I'm not sure-they own one of the major news networks-and G.E makes a lot of stuff, but their big contracts come from the government to build different weapon systems and military support technology.
So, the TV news networks are not going to show the coffins of all the dead soldiers coming home, or report on the aprox one million dead or displaced innocent Iraqi citizens, or what is going on behind the scenes with the oil corps.getting to move back in to manage Iraqi oil, making huge profits, leaving the Iraqis almost nothing, and doing nothing to help Americans back home, for whom these soldiers thought they were fighting-instead, it's for oil and American Imperial expansion-we have 761 military bases around the world.Mainstream media is now controlled by these same "corporate special interests" and have a monopoly on News, and therefore on information.
For a fraction of what we spend on killing, we could all have health insurance, just like the insurance that members of Congress have, for which we pay for with our tax dollars!

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» RE: ATH Katrina Posted by: Lauren
Truth Must Be Fairly Applied
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Sep 9, 2008 6:27 AM   
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Truth 1: Hurricanes are big; nature is bigger. Natural systems, not engineered ones, are the only defenses big enough to rely on in a big storm.

Something disturbs me about this statement. If I am to accept it then must I also accept the notion that the nature it too big and overpowering for man to damage?

This is the notion that too many people seem to appeal to in forming their belief that climate change is not due to human activity. More generally, some like to believe that people can do whatever they want - over-fish, pollute, strip-mine, whatever without worry.

Nature is too big and powerful to be affected. If I believe that in one context then must I believe it in another?

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» I See it This Way Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» RE: I See it This Way Posted by: Xynyx
» Good question but Posted by: truthlover
How about Dutch?
Posted by: bonzi on Sep 9, 2008 6:46 AM   
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They keep see at bay quite successfully and entirely artificially....

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ATH
Posted by: ATH on Sep 9, 2008 6:53 AM   
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One can now witness the government starting to move against the Independent Media, such as what happened at the RNC in St. Paul, where Amy Goodman of DemocracyNow was arrested, as well as the producers. Not only were they arrested, but they were treated brutally. Groups like iWitness video, which had covered the 2004 RNC, and managed to get 400 cases overturned by videos evidence showing the cops had lied in their reports about the reasons for the arrests.
This time, the cops moved in with "pre-emptive" strikes, holding the group captive in their own backyard. They managed to stop them through the news laws that have eviserated our Civil Liberties. The RNC "Welcoming Committe" was charged with terrorism charges under the MN version of the Patriot Act--probably the most dangerous of all the legislation that's been passed, when it comes to having destroyed the Bill of Rights.
I think it will be far too late by the time people wake up.
Once thecountry was sold on the absolute B.S. that was the 9/11 Commission report, it was all downhill. When people accept obvious cover-ups like this without blinking, the government has succeeded in dumbing down enough of the population so that it has no worries. And, obviously, it also has no qualms about simply killing, or arresting (and with these new laws, they can always find something)
anyone or group that becomes powerful enough that people are beginning to listen.
I strongly suggest everyone visit this site:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
Do you know that on the FBI's "Most wanted" list, bin Laden is not even charged with 9/11, because the agency admits they have no actual evidence against him. In fact, he denied involvement. Then, of course, that tape was found with him taking "credit." Why would he deny it, then leave a tape that may have never been found admitting he was behind it? It makes no sense, and anyone that has seen the tape can see that it is almost certainly not bin Laden.
We need a new investigation of 9/11. Everything that has taken place, all that has caused the total disintegration of our Civil Rights, is connected to 9/11. The whole bag, from pre-emptive, aggressive war, defying international law, to torture--it's all because of 9/11.
Yet, no one has seriously asked things like, "Why did the administration so oppose ANY investigation of 9/11?"
"Why did Bush remain in that school, endangering the leadership of our country, as well as the lives of all those children? Why did Air Force One take off without Fighter escort? They didn't get an escort till almost halfway to their destination.
Why was the SOP procedure, dealing with hijacked planes, not followed on this day? Every time a plane went off course in the past, there were two F-15s up there to check it out within 20 minutes. How did it come to be that there was no military response at all on 9/11 for two hours?
Why was no one reprimanded, or fired over this immense failure? What, specifically, caused it? Why did they think there were at least 11 possible hijackings? Why were these war-game "inserts" on FAA radar, and why weren't they immediately turned off the second we had a real airliner go off course?
Why hasn't the government pursued an investigation into the 12 times normal "put options" placed on the two airlines, including the one that generated 2.5 million dollars, but was never claimed? And if there have been investigations, why haven't we heard anything about their outcome? Did you know, the CIA has the ability to track Stock trading in real-time, and why didn't the 12-times normal trades cause any alert?

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» RE: ATH Posted by: Lauren
I'm confused....
Posted by: Tim Chadron on Sep 9, 2008 7:12 AM   
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First you say that humans, especially us here in the US, have this delusion about being able to control nature. Ain't gonna happen.

Then you advocate for larger government in an attempt to seemingly do just that in New Orleans? Huh?

New Orleans can't be fixed. Most of it needs to be returned to the swamp it once was. The levees should be destroyed and the city moved 50 miles inland. Interestingly enough, the government agency that should be helping to accomplish this is over in Iraq right now fighting an unjust war instead of helping it's own citizens clean up the mess katrina left behind. Larger government needed? I don't think so.

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» RE: I'm confused.... Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: I'm confused.... Posted by: Lauren
» RE: I'm confused.... Posted by: luzmejor
» The US is not Holland, though Posted by: truthlover
» RE: I'm confused.... Posted by: Tim Chadron
ATH
Posted by: ATH on Sep 9, 2008 7:17 AM   
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cont...

Where are the remains of the recovered aircraft, and why wasn't a member of the Board of Transportation part of the investigation, as they have always been in every other plane crash?
And I could go on and on. The odds of all these events happening--such as the first 3 steel-framed buildings to ever collapse from fire, all collapsing on the same days, at near free-fall speed, through the path of greatest resistance, which was straight down into their own footprints, all 3, perfect collapses, instead of the top half falling off or over, the failure of any military response for two hours...the odds are staggering, somewhere in the area of 50 million to one, according to one estimate..but that's not even needed..common sense alone should tell anyone who looks at the evidence that something stinks, horribly. Go to that site, where dozens of ex CIA, and other high officials say the 9/11 Commission was "a complete white-wash and cover-up, as well as testimony from numerous Architechs, Engineers, Professional Commercial Airline Pilots, as well as ex-Fighter Pilots, plus many eyewitness accounts of bombs and explosions that were all left out of the 9/11 Commission.
And what about WTC 7 that wasn't even hit by a plane? If it collapsed because of fire, as NIST says, why was it a perfectly symetrical collapse, a 610 foot, 47 floor building collapsing in 7 seconds? And why did Laryy Silverstein, on TV, the clip of which I have, say that the building was "pulled?"
How did so many people not only know that the building was going to collapse, but at exactly what time? Many people reported having police or firemen tell people to "stay back" because they were going to "explode" a building. One man reports of having heard a count-down on a Red Cross radio.
Why did they change their story? Could it be that it usually takes a week to set a building of that size (which would have been the tallest building in 33 States)for wireless, remote demolition? Could it be that, for it to have been professionally demolished--of which I have absolutely no doubt that's what took place--that it would have to have been wired ahead of 9/11?
Obviously, as the "put options" prove, as well as the Israelis who left the building, breaking their lease, after having received a warning through an email, there were many who had foreknowledge of the attacks.
Yet, apparently, the American people just don't want to look in that closet. They're too scared of the implications, despite documents like "Northwoods" and other incidents, like the Gulf of Tonkin, the Spanish American War, and the lies this same administration used to get us into war. I mean, more people have died from iraq than died in 9/11...they knew this would probably end up being the case, yet they were still willing to lie about it. So, it's not a question of if they would do it or not.
This is the crux of the matter, and if we could prove that 9/11 was allowed to happen, this would be powerful enough to get the country off its a**. In any case, a new investigation would prove, one way or another, what really happened on 9/11. The Official Story is one of the most absurd conspiracy theories I've heard. That's something else: the words "conspiracy theory" have been twisted. "Conspiracy" means "a secret plan to commit a crime." Almost all crime is conspiratorial. And, by their very definitions, a conspiracy theory is exactly what the "Official" story is--as much as any other idea about what happened.
If this was really due to gross incompetence, don't you think some people would have lost their jobs? Instead, many ended up being promoted....

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» RE: ATH Posted by: aussidawg
» NOW I'VE GOT IT !!!! Posted by: gellero1
» Good link! Posted by: stellabloo
ATH
Posted by: ATH on Sep 9, 2008 8:15 AM   
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Concerning nature: Man can, and has, altered nature to an extraordinary degree. We alter nature little by little, but these changes compound and end up having huge effects and influences, which mankind is not intelligent enough to predict.
Nature is far more powerful than we are, and life is too intricate for anyone to be able to decifer how small changes avalanche into huge
alterations over time.
So, while we can alter nature, and have done so, to various degrees, we can't neccesarily reverse or protect ourselves from the damages we have set in motion by these changes.
The difference of a couple degrees in temperature is not a big change for man, or nature, when it is part of regular, rapid alterations.
But a change in temperature of 5 degrees, worldwide, as part of a larger pattern, is the difference between now and the last ice age.
A change of a few degrees, worldwide, permanently, can--and will--have enormous consequences for which man will not be prepared and will suffer in a multitude of ways.
Life is intricately interwoven. Yet, man is out of synch and out of touch with nature. Because of our over-sized egos, we believe the world revolves around us, and yet we believe we are islands unto ourselves, not recognizing how closely we are tied to both other humans, nature, and animals. Like the honey bee, which is disappearing. Most people wouldn't think the disappearance of the honey bee would affect them much.
Yet, Einstein predicted that if the honey bee disappeared, we would become extinct within aprox. 4 years. We may now have the technology to avoid complete extinction, but if the honey bee disappears, life will change to such a degree as to be almost unrecognizable from previous years.
This whole philosophy, which the neo-cons
push heavily, is not only wrong, but highly dangerous. It is a philosophy of "me, me, me" and screw everyone else. Man can not survive for long like this. Eventually, these rich elites, who think they can insulate themselves, will discover the lesson Marie Antoinette(sic?) discovered: eventually, the pain you cause from such selfishness will catch up with you, and you will suffer-if not through the actions of men, then through nature. Nature is the great equalizer.

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recommended reading
Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming on Sep 9, 2008 8:34 AM   
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May I suggest that you read "Bayou Farewell: The Rich Life and Tragic Death of Louisiana’s Cajun Coast by Mike Tidwell, and "The Control of Nature" by John McPhee.

Excellent, very readable explanations of what has been and is being done, and the consequences.

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ATH and others have turned this Article into
Posted by: EncinoM on Sep 9, 2008 9:08 AM   
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a conspiracy theorists wet dream. There are no Chemtrails, it is water vapor, its cold at 30,000 feet. 9/11 was not an inside job. The theories have been debunked time and again. Outside cloud seeding man can not control the weather.

To many weak minds poisoned by Alex Jones and his BS infowars.

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» WRONG, OPMOC Posted by: gellero1
Mississppi river levees.
Posted by: soundman on Sep 9, 2008 10:01 AM   
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The single thing that can restore the wetlands best is to free the river to find its own way to the gulf. That is how the wetlands were created orignally, and how likely is civilization to let it do that? Not at all, I'm afraid.

Plans to restore wetlands by pumping silt in pipes are a small step in the right direction, but will only help selected areas where the pipes are directed.

I'd love to see the river freed!

Lou

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» She's A'Lappin Over the Top Posted by: Rosasharn
Americans only care about THEIR hurricanes...
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Sep 9, 2008 10:58 AM   
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you know its true.
Hurricane Bound For Texas Slowed By Large Land Mass To The South - The Onion

why is it so funny?

Nobody gives a DAMN
about flooding in SE Asia's ancient delta cultures
about cyclones in SE Asia...

about HURRICANE LANDFALL off the American shores.

you know its true.

that's why the REST of the World get so irritated with Americans

"all America, all the time"

you think its EASIER to live through a hurricane in a Latin American or Caribbean hut??

think about it.

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Wonderful article!
Posted by: paula.c on Sep 9, 2008 6:05 PM   
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We must all pay heed.

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Good article, a few additions
Posted by: PaulK on Sep 9, 2008 8:11 PM   
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The State of Florida is now self-insured. Translation: the state's insurance won't pay off a dime on the dollar if another Hurricane Andrew hits downtown Miami. All homeowners will default on their mortgages at the same time. The message for bankers who hold falsely insured Florida mortgages will be, "get some other job because your whole bank is gone with the wind". What if bank mortgage money suddenly dries up in South Florida?

What happens if the big global warming hurricane hits NYC in, say, 2009, putting salt water into the tunnels? What will the city use for electric wiring for five years or so? How long will the subways be down?

Levees have been built up, and the channel silted up, for a century. The bottom of the Mississippi River is now higher than the surrounding land. This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. In India this year the Ganges simply made a new path, permanently (and in India that meant permanently) stranding many thousands of people.

Next time, how about a full-circle environmental approach to future river engineering?

What happens when the bottom silts up? It makes the levees go higher and higher until a disaster hits. Better ideas?

What happens when nearby towns squeeze the river into an ever-narrower channel? The biggest floods are much worse.

What happens when the river's outflow mud and sand washes hundreds of miles into the Gulf, instead of building up the wetlands? New Orleans becomes vulnerable.

What happens when that Mississippi mud is so polluted that it causes a big dead zone? In that case, maybe you don't even want it for new land. But you're still killing lots of the Gulf.

Next time, how about preparing for a 10,000 year event like the Dutch have done? Did everyone see Hurricane Gustav crashing over the New Orleans levee?

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I so want to like this, but I can't
Posted by: chaoslegs on Sep 9, 2008 8:22 PM   
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First off the title is very misleading. It talks about 5 things on hurricanes, but really just #1 directly covers hurricanes, #2 is historical comparative to urban locations, #3 is human arrogance in face of nature (without a mention of hurricane), #4 kind of contradicts #1, #5 kind of contradicts #1 (while I agree with the premise) and it really talks about small government conservatism.

Plus you have this in #1:

South Louisiana is in such big trouble because we allowed its wetlands to be starved -- courtesy of the Army Corps of Engineers -- of the natural silt and sand that fed them and because they were then opened up to storm surge and erosion -- courtesy of oil and gas drilling.

Where did the oil and gas drilling come into all of this??? It needs to be explained more!

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» Don't Expect them to Explain Posted by: gellero1
The laws of Karma!
Posted by: govindas on Sep 21, 2008 8:49 PM   
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America is doomed to pay for all its crime to humanity!
America means taxpayers who elect their leaders,who are destroying the planet!
By sowing sorrow around the world,only sorrow will be reaped in USA!

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