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Water

Did McCain Just Lose Colorado?

By Joseph Romm, Climate Progress. Posted August 18, 2008.


McCain might have just lost Colorado after saying he wanted to renegotiate a 1922 water deal and take water from Colorado and New Mexico.
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What epic gaffe could unite Colorado's Democratic Senator Ken Salazar -- "over my dead body" -- and Republican U.S. Senate candidate Bob Schaffer - "Over my cold, dead, political carcass"?

That would be Arizona Senator John McCain telling The Pueblo Chieftan on Thursady that he wants to renegotiate the famous 1922 Colorado River compact to take water from the so-called upper basin states, including CO and NM, where the river originates and give it to lower basin states like his home state of AZ:

"I don't think there's any doubt the major, major issue is water and can be as important as oil. So the compact that is in effect, obviously, needs to be renegotiated over time amongst the interested parties. I think that there's a movement amongst the governors to try, if not, quote, renegotiate, certainly adjust to the new realities of high growth, of greater demands on a scarcer resource'.
In short, the fact that lots and lots of people keep moving into the desert means Colorado should give up more of its water.

[Note to McCain -- Given your recent history of misinformation and disinformation on the subject (see "Will McCain's cynical lies destroy the chance for serious energy and climate policy?"), I'd skip the analogy to oil.]

Them's fighting words -- literally! The word rival, after all, comes from "people who share the same river." In the West they say, "Whiskey's for drinking, water's for fighting." See also "Warming Will Worsen Water Wars."

Needless to say, Coloradans do not see things the way that the senator from Arizona does. Democratic Governor Bill Ritter pointed out McCain seems utterly unaware that the compact was just renegotiated in December:

"Just last year, the seven states entered into a new implementing agreement, and that agreement is working as intended," Ritter said. "It would be sheer folly to re-open the compact at a time like this when all of the states are working cooperatively on this issue."

In a piece titled, "McCain suggests raiding Colorado's water," the deputy editorial page editor of The Denver Post wrote Friday on behalf of "Five million thirst-crazed Coloradans":

Subject: Forget about winning our nine electoral votes next November. We don't vote for water rustlers in this state; we tar and feather them!

...

As a senator, McCain has long represented a state, Arizona, that would love to steal Colorado's water. But now, he wants our votes. Apparently, nobody bothered to brief the candidate who Paris Hilton called "that wrinkly, white-haired guy" that stealing Colorado's water to benefit Arizona, California and Nevada isn't as popular an idea in Colorado as it is in Arizona, California and Nevada....

... when the lower basin states talk about "renegotiating" the compact, that's their code for a process of give and take -- in which Colorado, Utah, New Mexico and Wyoming give and California, Arizona and Nevada take.

ColoradoPols says McCain just lost Colorado. Sen. Salazar, an expert on water law, said:

"Senator McCain's position on opening up the Colorado River Compact is absolutely wrong and would only happen over my dead body.... It's an anathema to the fundamental principles of Colorado's water rights and our compacts."

In theory McCain understands global warming, so he should know that the West is going to get hotter and drier. In the coming decades, the Rockies snow "reservoir" will diminish, disappearing earlier and earlier in the season. The Upper Basin aides are going to have less and less water to share.

I agree with Sierra Club's Southwest regional director Rob Smith, who said:

Scientists have predicted a 10 to 30 percent reduction of water flow in the Colorado River due to long-term drought and higher temperatures associated with climate change in the Southwest. Instead of threatening a diminishing resource, it would be better to help states and communities with water conservation projects and stream restoration.

McCain's gaffe is both bad policy and bad politics.

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Colorado keeps getting hotter and drier
Posted by: fanny666 on Aug 18, 2008 3:26 PM   
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» bull Posted by: edgar1
» While in New York State Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals
» Erie Effects Posted by: edgar1
to help ease water woes in arizona
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Aug 18, 2008 6:42 PM   
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(and eventually in the rest of the u.s.) stop growing cotton and start growing HEMP!

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» Dumbo Wins! Posted by: edgar1
» Wow! Good one! Posted by: lightwing1
» RE: Wow! Good one! Posted by: Plexius2
» Amen, sister ! Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Amen, sister ! Posted by: chomsky
» RE: Amen, sister ! Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Amen, sister ! Posted by: chomsky
Of course Unfit McCain won't lose Colorado.
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 23, 2008 1:37 AM   
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Why?

Because according to the latest polls which show the race dead even, half of all voting-age Americans have room-temperature IQs and don't read newspapers.


Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam veteran (for the benefit of new AlterNet visitors)
Seven reasons to vote against Unfit McCain

PS: If you agree with this comment, please email it to five people who want REAL change in America and ask them to do the same.

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» let them eat wurst Posted by: edgar1
» RE: let them eat wurst Posted by: chomsky
» repeat, repeat Posted by: edgar1
» RE: repeat, repeat Posted by: Quannah
McCain IS Senile
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Aug 23, 2008 4:55 AM   
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This latest gaffe proves that McCain is still totally out of touch with America. Just a few months ago the SW'ern states got together and re-negotiated the water pact that was first put together in the early 20th century.

But McCain was UNAWARE of that fact. Again proving that he's not up to speed with current affairs.

We will need more than a God (as in 'God help us') if McCain is installed into the WH.

We will need a miracle from an alternate universe.

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» RE: McCain IS Senile Posted by: Basenjis
» McCain is NOT senile Posted by: rancespergl
McCain can afford to be careless --
Posted by: Last Chance on Aug 23, 2008 7:16 AM   
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because he knows the election is fixed, voter-stripped, cyber-corrupted, black-boxed, etc. It will be another cliff-hanger with Republicans winning by a slim majority -- all courtesy of Republican-controlled election procedures and their good friends Debold et al.

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The Interstate Compact was just renegotiated -- to make CA conserve
Posted by: janvdb on Aug 23, 2008 8:50 AM   
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There is no chance in hell that the pact will be re-renegotiated to give AZ and CA waterwasters more water.

They need to conserve.

Jan VanDenBerg

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If there's one thing people in the West will fight to the death over...
Posted by: Quannah on Aug 23, 2008 9:27 AM   
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it's WATER. The Western US, for the most part, is a desert. Some of it is a "high desert" that is fed not from annual rainfall, but melting snowpack filling lakes and rivers every spring. (Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, etc.) There has been a trend for decades now of these areas becoming drier. Less and less snowfall every year, and not enough rain in the spring and summer to make up for it.

Sure he could lose Colorado over this issue. It's a fight that goes back well over 150 years. Don't mess with people's water. After all, it's necessary for survival.

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Forget about McCain's ignorance of global warming
Posted by: Richard House on Aug 23, 2008 10:14 AM   
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because according to some polls "McCain is now viewed favorably by 56% of the nation’s voters, Obama by 55%".

It will come as no surprise if the American people put another dumbass in the White House, again.

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» Yassah Boss! Posted by: edgar1
» RE: Yassah Boss! Posted by: Harris20
» Surface Comparisons Posted by: edgar1
NM ovsersight
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Aug 23, 2008 11:30 AM   
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Apparently the good folks in New Mexico don't matter. As reported, the confluence originating in Colorado and New Mexico that flows south only affects Colorado. Apart from McCain's stupid, as usual, utterance the analysis and conclusion are equally vapid. Can anyone in this penal colony shitcan politics for a minute and discuss an issue objectively, with knowledge and insight and report that west of the Mississippi there are no downstream riparian rights and the law of the west is "the fustest gets the mostest." What next, piping water from Wahington and Oregon to irrigate Death Valley?

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» RE: NM ovsersight Posted by: Quannah
We could lose more than Colorado and New Mexico
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Aug 23, 2008 1:14 PM   
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So McCain said there needs to be more water sharing and folks might get upset over it. BIG DEAL!!! Water shortages as a whole make remarks about it seem laughable.
The cold hard facts are by the chemicals we pump into the air we've created a kind of rain that does'nt soak in before it evaporates. That is unless it's a total downpour,even then the water sheds so fast it never replenishes the under ground or surface waters. 46% of the rivers and streams are too polluted to make clean enough to use by humans. Not that long ago,the Rio Grande ran short of the Gulf of Mexico by 300 yards. This problem is much bigger than electoral politics,bigger than any fortune 500 company,bigger than any war.
We need to find ways of getting water back into the aquifers. Buffalo-wallows used to be all over the plains states. These were little ponds created by buffalo dusting themselves,and the millions of these wallows that were held water long enough to replenish the ynderground supply. Maybe we should create similar pits to collect water. How about getting alot of the man-made chemicals out of the air?
In all seriousness, it won't matter who the president is,without water they're as dead as fried chicken. Instead of listening to what the government wants to do why don't we do it for ourselves? Drill for water instead of oil.
To do nothing means all those who died in Iraq will be meaningless deaths in the face of a water war. We have to act because this failure of a governance won't. Not actions of
limitation but acts of restoration and replenishment. Stop draining wetlands for a damn PGA course,stop turning marshes into 'Industrial enterprise zones'. We can fix the water woes,just don't ask Uncle Sam for help,all he knows is how to use a cruise missle.

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Now that Obama has picked Biden, Mccain will keep CO unfortunately.
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 23, 2008 7:41 PM   
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Then again, doesn't CO like most of the Western states save CA prefer populist Democrats and not Washington Establishment bozos?

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McCain hasn't lost anything.
Posted by: monkeywrench on Aug 24, 2008 5:09 AM   
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Factoring in the inevitable election fraud that will enhance his chances, along with the dastardly right-wing attacks against Obama and Biden that are, as I write, being perfected, McCain is a shoo-in for the presidency. Thanks to the corporate-media machine that has garnered even more influence since the 2004 debacle, and barring an absolute landslide by Obama/Biden, McCain will be our next president and we can all kiss the good ol' USA goodbye.

I am at this point so pessimistic because the current Democratic campaign sounds so much like the 2004 campaign: lots of crowing over each little sound-byte "victory" while ignoring the bigger picture of overall right-wing strategy. They play chess while we congratulate ourselves for playing checkers.

I worked for the Kerry/Edwards campaign in 2004 and felt betrayed when Kerry practically sprinted to the microphone to concede a stolen election -- and what I'm sensing now is eerily like that campaign.

If something doesn't happen to really -- REALLY -- "rattle the cages," we are in for four more years of Bush-o-nomics, war without end, a destroyed middle class, and a lost-forever American Dream.

Mark my words: things are this serious.

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Why bother? you'll just steal it from Canadians with the SPP
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 24, 2008 5:51 PM   
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...who needs environmental regulations & sustainable resource stewardship when you can simply LOBBY & STEAL from the Peoples of every nation on Earth?

if they won't comply? WHY, ITS IN THE AMERICAN CORPORATE INTEREST!!... so that makes it PATRIOTIC corruption.

everybody knows that you can't spell CORRUPTION without a 'we'.

hell, just bomb the F*CK out of everybody... just like every other time, right?

WHEEE~~~EEE!

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Colorado voters against McCain's plans for their state
Posted by: canadagirl on Aug 25, 2008 4:40 PM   
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This man is so arrogant, I truly believe it's not a gaffe, but the 'Emporer's' true nature, to take what isn't his....as he has done with other slimy deals. He really does'nt have a conscience. McCain is a wingnut.

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