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War on Iraq

The Iraq War Was About Oil, All Along

By Bill Moyers and Michael Winship, Bill Moyers Journal. Posted July 5, 2008.


Oh, no, they told us, Iraq isn't a war about oil. That's cynical and simplistic, they said. It's about terror and al-Qaeda and toppling a dictator.
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Oh, no, they told us, Iraq isn't a war about oil. That's cynical and simplistic, they said. It's about terror and al-Qaeda and toppling a dictator and spreading democracy and protecting ourselves from weapons of mass destruction. But one by one, these concocted rationales went up in smoke, fire and ashes. And now the bottom line turns out to be ... the bottom line. It is about oil.

Alan Greenspan said so last fall. The former chairman of the Federal Reserve, safely out of office, confessed in his memoir, "Everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil." He elaborated in an interview with The Washington Post's Bob Woodward, "If Saddam Hussein had been head of Iraq and there was no oil under those sands, our response to him would not have been as strong as it was in the first Gulf War."

Remember, also, that soon after the invasion, Donald Rumsfeld's deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, told the press that war was our only strategic choice. "We had virtually no economic options with Iraq," he explained, "because the country floats on a sea of oil."

Shades of Daniel Plainview, the monstrous petroleum tycoon in the movie, "There Will Be Blood." Half-mad, he exclaims, "There's a whole ocean of oil under our feet!" then adds, "No one can get at it except for me!"

No wonder American troops only guarded the Ministries of Oil and the Interior in Baghdad, even as looters pillaged museums of their priceless antiquities. They were making sure no one could get at the oil except ... guess who?

Here's a recent headline in The New York Times: "Deals With Iraq Are Set to Bring Oil Giants Back." Read on: "Four western companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power."

There you have it. After a long exile, Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total and BP are back in Iraq. And on the wings of no-bid contracts -- that's right, sweetheart deals like those given Halliburton, KBR and Blackwater. The kind of deals you get only if you have friends in high places. And these war profiteers have friends in very high places.

Let's go back a few years to the 1990's, when private citizen Dick Cheney was running Halliburton, the big energy supplier. That's when he told the oil industry that, "By 2010 we will need on the order of an additional fifty million barrels a day. So where is the oil going to come from? While many regions of the world offer great oil opportunities, the Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Fast forward to Cheney's first heady days in the White House. The oil industry and other energy conglomerates were handed backdoor keys to the White House, and their CEO's and lobbyists were trooping in and out for meetings with their old pal, now Vice President Cheney. The meetings were secret, conducted under tight security, but as we reported five years ago, among the documents that turned up from some of those meetings were maps of oil fields in Iraq -- and a list of companies who wanted access to them. The conservative group Judicial Watch and the Sierra Club filed suit to try to find out who attended the meetings and what was discussed, but the White House fought all the way to the Supreme Court to keep the press and public from learning the whole truth.

Think about it. These secret meetings took place six months before 9/11, two years before Bush and Cheney invaded Iraq. We still don't know what they were about. What we know is that this is the oil industry that's enjoying swollen profits these days. It would be laughable if it weren't so painful to remember that their erstwhile cheerleader for invading Iraq -- the press mogul Rupert Murdoch -- once said that a successful war there would bring us $20-a-barrel oil. The last time we looked, it was more than $140 a barrel. Where are you, Rupert, when the facts need checking and the predictions are revisited?

At a Congressional hearing this week, James Hansen, the NASA climate scientist who exactly twenty years ago alerted Congress and the world to the dangers of global warming, compared the chief executives of Big Oil to the tobacco moguls who denied that nicotine is addictive or that there's a link between smoking and cancer. Hansen, whom the administration has tried again and again to silence, said these barons of black gold should be tried for committing crimes against humanity and nature in opposing efforts to deal with global warming.

Perhaps those sweetheart deals in Iraq should be added to his proposed indictments. They have been purchased at a very high price. Four thousand American soldiers dead, tens of thousands permanently wounded, hundreds of thousands of dead and crippled Iraqis plus five million displaced, and a cost that will mount into trillions of dollars. The political analyst Kevin Phillips says America has become little more than an "energy protection force," doing anything to gain access to expensive fuel without regard to the lives of others or the earth itself. One thinks again of Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood. His lust for oil came at the price of his son and his soul.

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Bill Moyers is managing editor and Michael Winship is senior writer of the weekly public affairs program Bill Moyers Journal, which airs Friday nights on PBS. Check local airtimes or comment at The Moyers Blog at www.pbs.org/moyers.

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Why Bill Moyers, I...
Posted by: Turiye on Jul 5, 2008 12:59 PM   
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....am disturbed and saddened. Stop this you know this already. Get thee away from Alternet and get thee back to PBS where normalcy and havoc no longer reign....

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Of Course, The Iraq War was all about Oil.
Posted by: yellow on Jul 5, 2008 3:53 PM   
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The Iraq War was doubtless about oil. How else can one explain the clear victory of the big oil interests over neo-conservative policy preferences. In 2003, Bush appointed ex-Shell CEO Phil Carroll as chief advisor of the policy planning board of the Iraqi Oil Ministry. Carroll vociferously opposed any attempts to privatize the Iraqi Oil industry. The neo-cons wanted to privatize the oil wells in Iraq and start pumping output to get the Saudis to do follow suit in order to make up in volume what they would lose in price/barrel. The combined effect would "send world oil prices falling over a cliff." In this way a US controlled Iraq, and perhaps one other GCC producer, would effectively make the US the most powerful member of OPEC replacing the Saudis as the swing producer. Carroll's view prevailed and the oil industry was kept the public property of the Iraqi Oil Ministry. Consequently, Iraqi oil production never came near exceeding its pre-war peak of 3.5 million bbls/day. As a result, global oil supply remained constrained and prices have shot up. In 2003, the average price of crude oil was $35/barrel. In 2006, the price shot up to $60/barrel, then to $80/barrel in 2007, and now $140/barrel today. The crude oil price benchmark has thus increased by fourfold!! This could not have occurred without the Iraq War. The war has shot prices up beyond the dictates of supply and demand while keeping Iraqi oil out of the hands of US competitors like Russia, China and France.


Exxon-Mobil has been made rich by the war. It is the largest publicly traded corporation in the world with a market capitalization of over half a trillion. It's 5.6 billion outstanding shares, which trade at nearly $90/share, comprise about 3.7% of the total S&P 500 market capitalization. For the past five years, the combined revenues of the four top world oil corporations have exceeded a trillion dollars a year. Profit rates have ranged between 10% and 12% of sales revenues. The Iraq War was certainly about oil. The wild growth of international oil profitability proves this obvious fact.

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I hope so
Posted by: edith on Jul 6, 2008 10:24 AM   
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Access to energy drives and builds civilizations. Fighting a war to insure energy access in itself is not immoral or unusual. Whether Iraq was "necessary" to insure energy access, or whether the current price increases wpi;d have been more or less if there had not been US intervention, is unknown, and may never be answered. Personally, I never understood why the US did not continue its defacto alliance with Sadaam Hussein. Better the secular SOB you know than the religious nutcakes (Iran/Israel)you also know!

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Some of us have known all along that it was all about The Oil...
Posted by: Quannah on Jul 6, 2008 3:31 PM   
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and this administration has admitted it already.

I've heard Secretary Gates say it. I've heard Gen. Peter Pace say it. I've heard Gen. Sanchez say it. I've heard Gen. Petraeus even (almost) say it! I've heard it over and over.

Funny thing, though... we have yet to hear AN APOLOGY FOR LYING ABOUT IT TO GET US INTO THIS WAR!

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How hungry are you!
Posted by: carbon-based on Jul 6, 2008 4:07 PM   
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War about oil? Probably, and it is probably about a lot more than oil that we do not even consider.

Securing resources is nothing new in the world we live in. Everyone is surprised that we do that also?

The Dutch, France, England, Germany, Japan etc..etc. have all done this and started wars over it! Yep it stinks... but until you are willing to stop driving your giant SUV's , flying those private jets, reduce the heat in your home to about 65 etc..etc..don't complain, Bush is just feeding the beast.

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» RE: How hungry are you!..And Posted by: Captainmagic
» RE: How hungry are you! Posted by: badkitty68
You're about 5 years too late
Posted by: blogbooks on Jul 6, 2008 6:08 PM   
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You're all retards compared to anyone with a brain in their head (Rove, Cheney, me).

That is why you and yours will always be at the service of your masters.

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» RE: You're about 5 years too late Posted by: badkitty68
It took you 5 years to realize what anyone with an IQ over 115 and some knowledge knew immediately
Posted by: blogbooks on Jul 6, 2008 6:10 PM   
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Knowledge of history, geopolitics, and economics + an IQ over 115 = knew it all along.

Consider that it took you 5 years to come to the same conclusion as an intelligent and educated person and despair. You're not intelligent enough to ever, ever be left to your own devices.

Celebrate your place of subservience to your masters here in the American empire, it is the best of all possible worlds - for you.

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Who controls the oil fields is irrelevant
Posted by: wilburnwilliams on Jul 7, 2008 3:45 AM   
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Why kill to control a commodity that must be sold to be of any value to the owner? The Saudis, Iranians, Iraqis, Nigerians and Venezuelans all face significant demographic pressures, having populations with median ages at least ten years younger than our own. These oil-producing giants need the revenue to satisfy the rising expectations of their own people. What can the Iranians do with their oil, drink it? Where are they going to put the money they derive from oil sales, under their mattresses? Elementary economic logic tells you that they not only have to sell the oil, but they have to invest their profits in the very countries that gave them the money in the first place. How else can they insure a stable return on their investments? The need to return oil profits to industrialized countries for safe-keeping is particularly true of less populous oil-producers like Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. A little history might help here. Russia is one of the world's largets oil producers. At the height of the Cold War, did the Soviet Union use oil as a weapon? Look at what happened to the Russians when they tried to use natural gas as a political weapon a few years back. You can be sure that Europe is looking to diversify its suppliers of natural gas even as we speak, even if the new sources require a higher price. Oil creates dependecies that cut both ways; buyer and seller are stuck, for better or worse, richer or poorer. The oil-producers can't afford NOT to sell their oil. The entire discussion about controlling the sources is fundamentally misguided.

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I been saying that sh** for years
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Jul 7, 2008 4:00 AM   
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I know it is rude to say, "I told you so," but good grief, of course this war was about oil.

This was their energy policy concocted in those secret meetings mentioned in the article.

Silly me, I always thought a sound U.S. energy policy would be research and development of the myriad of alternative sources available: wind, solar, geothermal, passive solar housing construction, better fuel efficiency, conservation, switch grass into ethanol, cow sh** into electricity, etc.

But no, 30 years after I assumed in the face of the 1975 oil embargoes that common sense would prevail with U.S. energy policy, we have the exact opposite. Shorty-sighted, greedy idiots have given us a policy of blood for oil.

Hey....in college I wrote a script for a movie with an end-of-the world plot and all the trouble started because of the gasoline wars! The U.S. was the aggressor.

I got a B+ on the assignment.

See, there's proof that life is really just a B movie.

In this case, a B movie that never got made.

So sad that humankind is so self-destructive.

I can just hear oil executives say, "Who cares about the damn penguins! Let's build some damn cars that run on penguin oil!"

If there is any justice, may a glacier melt and capsize their private yacht in the Bahamas then drown their sorry ass and turn them into shark food.

Sharks eating their own. How poetic.

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» RE: I been saying that sh** for years Posted by: Grandma Crabby
Trick or treat
Posted by: solrev on Jul 7, 2008 4:11 AM   
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As usual people only see what they are suppose to see. Bush and Chaney made a greedy grab for Iraqi oil and sabotaged their own war. The globalists have sold us out and the dollar has no real value. The only way to protect the dollar as the world currency is by having a quick strike military presence in the Middle East to control the flow of oil. If anyone wants to play a different game, we will smart bomb them back in line by shutting down their lifeline.

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Mission accomplished, long past time...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jul 7, 2008 4:17 AM   
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...to bring the troops home!

this holding action all about getting as much as they can
before the "NEW" guy gets in office, mark my words!
When the new guy is in [whoever it is] the troops will be leaving!

the GRAFT trough is draining fast and a sacrificial PIG is about to be slaughtered!

Nice Article... like to hear Bill Moyers on a medium that people can openly discuss

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Really?
Posted by: Last Chance on Jul 7, 2008 4:24 AM   
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I thought it was about multi-billion dollar no-bid war contracts. How much oil is flowing from Iraq to the USA as compared to how much profit is flowing to Haliburton, etc.

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» RE: eally? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: eally? Posted by: Last Chance
Too Cynical ?
Posted by: US Citizen on Jul 7, 2008 5:19 AM   
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Is it too cynical to believe that the Iraq War was fought in order for the major oil companies to raise the price of oil? I think that most people now realize that the Iraq War was fought for oil, but I think most people still cling to the belief that it was fought in the United States' best interests to get a cheap source of oil. But if it were truly fought in Big Oil's best interesrs, it would be to raise the price of oil world wide. Since the oil price did rise dramatically, is it too cynical to believe that this is what the Big Oil men in the White House were aiming for all along?

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» RE: Too Cynical ? Posted by: Lauren
Long time Alternet users, please inform me . . .
Posted by: dustdevil on Jul 7, 2008 5:48 AM   
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Trolls are rampant on this site. Since I am a relatively new poster, could you point out the known trolls who frequent this site?

I already have strong suspicions about EncinoM, carbonbased, Yellow and Turiye.

I don't want to waste my time reading their paid propaganda.

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2003- Jane's Intelligence Digest
Posted by: Forrest on Jul 7, 2008 5:50 AM   
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http://www.janes.com/security/international
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16 April 2003
Oil from Iraq : An Israeli pipedream?

"Israel stands to benefit greatly from the US led war on Iraq, primarily by getting rid of an implacable foe in President Saddam Hussein and the threat from the weapons of mass destruction he was alleged to possess. But it seems the Israelis have other things in mind.

An intriguing pointer to one potentially significant benefit was a report by Haaretz on 31 March that minister for national infrastructures Joseph Paritzky was considering the possibility of reopening the long-defunct oil pipeline from Mosul to the Mediterranean port of Haifa. With Israel lacking energy resources of its own and depending on highly expensive oil from Russia, reopening the pipeline would transform its economy.

To resume supplies from Mosul to Haifa would require the approval of whatever Iraqi government emerges and presumably the Jordanian government, through whose territory it would be likely to run. Paritzky's ministry was reported to have said on 9 April that it would hold discussions with Jordanian authorities on resuming oil supplies from Mosul, with one source saying the Jordanians were "optimistic". Jordan, aware of the deep political sensitivities involved, immediately denied there were any such talks.

Paritzky said he was certain the USA would respond favourably to the idea of resurrecting the pipeline. Indeed, according to Western diplomatic sources in the region, the USA has discussed this with Iraqi opposition groups.

It is understood from diplomatic sources that the Bush administration has said it will not support lifting UN sanctions on Iraq unless Saddam's successors agree to supply Israel with oil.

All of this lends weight to the theory that Bush's war is part of a masterplan to reshape the Middle East to serve Israel's interests. Haaretz quoted Paritzky as saying that the pipeline project is economically justifiable because it would dramatically reduce Israel's energy bill.

US efforts to get Iraqi oil to Israel are not surprising. Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), the US guaranteed all Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. The MoU, which has been quietly renewed every five years, also committed the USA to construct and stock a supplementary strategic reserve for Israel, equivalent to some US$3bn in 2002. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from restrictions on oil exports from the USA.

Moreover, the USA agreed to divert oil from its home market, even if that entailed domestic shortages, and guaranteed delivery of the promised oil in its own tankers if commercial shippers were unwilling or not available to carry the crude to Israel. All of this adds up to a potentially massive financial commitment.

The USA has another reason for supporting Paritzky's project: a land route for Iraqi oil direct to the Mediterranean would lessen US dependence on Gulf oil supplies. Direct access to the world's second-largest oil reserves (with the possibility of expansion through so-far untapped deposits) is an important strategic objective."

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» Hmmn? . . . Posted by: dustdevil
That is the Wrong Question
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jul 7, 2008 6:04 AM   
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The question is not so much whether the Iraq war was launched because of oil (of course it was), but what the war had to do with oil.

Was the purpose of the war to gain control over Iraq's oil? If so, the war appears to have been a failure since the U.S. is unlikely to retain that control for long. Time will tell, however.

Was the purpose to raise the price of oil and thereby enrich the oil companies? If so, the war, to date, has been a resounding success. Possibly there will be a reaction that will drive prices down again through conservation, development of alternatives and simply pricing oil beyond what people can afford, but in the short run, the oil companies are accumulating an astonishing position of wealth.

Although the war is about oil, ultimately it has been about money and power.

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» Don't be confused by propaganda - Posted by: Last Chance
» Don't be confused Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
dick
Posted by: rtmyth on Jul 7, 2008 6:11 AM   
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About oil and Israel's desire to destroy Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, the plans for which are in print, on the web.

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Well....DUH !
Posted by: reelectnoone on Jul 7, 2008 7:07 AM   
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I said that when the first bomb fell...why did it take everyone else over 5 years to wake up.

Did someone slip something into your drinks?

Based on my brilliant observations of the time I am now available at the hourly rate of $5,000 plus travel costs to explain things to the rest of the media.

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Godfather Part IV
Posted by: boing007 on Jul 7, 2008 7:07 AM   
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The Bush Administration is Cosa Nostra, American Style, and the President of the United States is their Godfather.

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» RE: Godfather Part IV Posted by: dustdevil
Canada slides to the ReichWing... to avoid tanks & terrorism
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jul 7, 2008 7:11 AM   
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from American ReichWingers.

yup... you heard me... why do you suppose our Kreepy Konservative Kanadian party is so tight with the US ReichWIng? why is Canada suddenly 'holding the bully's coat' on issues like CLUSTER BOMBS?

not JUST because it gets those bastards rich...

nope... because Amerikans are always a short'n'curly hair away from rolling tanks into foreign nations in the American Interests...

I watch my nation become slowly acclimatized to extortion, corruption, injustice & pollution... they call it 'harmonization & I'm sickened with it...

...& all because Latin America, Africa & Asia were allowed to be abused by Americans for decades... yes, Canada learned what happens to those daring to be sovereign & just - the Power of the Cautionary Tale that includes nations like Iraq...

Its like watching a slow train wreck & wondering WTF?


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You can hear it comin'
Like a train out of control
Surely leaves you wonderin'
Exactly where your ticket goes
You scream to the conductor
But he's been deaf for twenty years
Hear the other people laughin'
As he grinds through every gear

Go to grab your nerve, you find that it is missin'
Seems you've lost your faith in everyone you know
And I surely hope that you don't plan on winnin'
Better start payin' more attention to the ones that throw you clear
You are seconds from the impact, and you're movin' way too slow

Time will surely mold you
Into something you don't like
Get you runnin' like a rabbit
Stick your finger in the dike

Look around your room you find the paint is peelin'
Your reflective skin is fallin' off your bones
Well, I must admit I know just how you're feelin'
We must grab each others collar, we must rise out of the water
And you know as well as I do it's no fun to die alone

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After all that I've been through, you're the only one that matters
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You never left me in the dark here on my own
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I promise you'll be dry and never be alone

Love has always scared you
Like the things under your bed
Baby, we can walk on water
Like some junkies swore they did

You call me on the phone, you say that it is crucial
You stick your fingers in your ears 'til they explode
I guess the business will be goin' on as usual
We must grab each others collar, we must rise out of the water
'Cause you know as well as I do that it's no fun to die alone

Climb to safety
After all that I've been through, you're the only one that matters
Climb to safety
You never left me in the dark here on my own
Climb to safety
Feel the water rising. Let me be your ladder
Climb to safety
I promise you'll be dry and never be alone

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The Iraq War Was About Oil, All Along
Posted by: xvictor on Jul 7, 2008 7:18 AM   
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Moron neocons and their sycophants were hopelessly non-believers.

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Big Oil Men Bush and Cheney want High Oil Prices
Posted by: US Citizen on Jul 7, 2008 7:26 AM   
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Big Oil's best interests are served by having a high price for oil world wide. Bush and Cheney are Big Oil men, so they do everything they can to increase the price of oil. So far they have fought a five-year war in Iraq to give the major oil companies sole control of the oil there. Bush and Cheny have beaten the war drums against Iran which also increases the price of oil. Of course, a higher price for oil decreases the standard of living for most of the people in the United States. But Bush and Cheney's allegiance is to Big Oil, not to the United States.

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If we think clearly and rationally
Posted by: Last Chance on Jul 7, 2008 7:26 AM   
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It is obvious the price of oil and gas is rising because the supply cannot keep up with the ever-growing demand of an exploding human population. That's why oil companies and governments are frantically searching for new places to drill. But they can't do it fast enough. Every year millions more people need cars, trucks, trains and jet planes to seek their fortuenes in competition with ever-growing millions just like them wanting more and more of everything. It's madness. Instead,
REDUCE THE HUMAN POPULATION AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY FOR EVERYONE. How To Save The Earth -- OR -- One More Destiny

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» RE: Misha2... Posted by: Quannah
PNAC
Posted by: Betty1950 on Jul 7, 2008 8:00 AM   
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Just go to the website of The Project For The New American Century. It was founded by the hideous William Kristol & other draft dodging ('Nam era) neocons including Cheney. The "conquering the Middle East" plan is right there. They also would be happy with conquering the entire planet. These people are extremely dangerous, as we are finding out.
Also, the late, great Molly Ivins wrote a column way back in the beginning of this Iraqi fiasco saying it was all about the oil. A lot of us knew that, from the beginning. Remember the chant, "No More Blood For Oil!"? Well......

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Yes, it was about oil and a lot of us knew and protested before the war
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Jul 7, 2008 8:06 AM   
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But it isn't something new.

Since FDR promised 'security for oil' for the despicable Saudi regime 60 or so years ago, our policy in ME hasn't changed.

From propping up Saudi regime to coup against Mossadeq to support of Saddam to the invasion of Iraq --> all for maintaing US hegemony over the world and to fill up the bank accounts of the Oil executives and share-holders.

Before oil, there were the fruit companies that drove US intervention in all of South America. Hell, our intervention at the behest of the fruit companies coined a new term 'Banana Republics'.

Just as Bush invaded Iraq for oil, Eisenhower and Truman played key role at the behest of the fruit companies in toppling foreign governments in South America.

How about the Kingdom of Hawaii? Yep, the annexation of Hawaii was done at the behest of the US planters.

The list is long and growing. Those of us who act as if Bush's war of aggression is something alien to our history are either too dumb and ignorant (most likely) or are morally bankrupt.

Either case, as Rev. Wright puts it, GOD DAMN AMERICA!

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Russia Has Got Loads of Oil & Gas - Now The Worlds Largest Exporter. America too has loads of oil.
Posted by: opmoc on Jul 7, 2008 8:18 AM   
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North America could not only be completely self sufficient in energy it could also become a major exporter.

Except North America is controlled by oil company executives who's number one priority is to maximise profits.

They are quite happy for oil to be perceived as a limited resource and to go round the World stealing it from countries like Iraq.

Why bother doing what the Russians do to obtain their oil and gas from directly under their own feet?

There's loads of the stuff under America, but Americans aren't looking for it in America.

http://www.gasresources.net/Introduction.htm

Extract

"The impetus for development of modern petroleum science came shortly after the end of World War II, and was impelled by recognition by the government of the (then) U.S.S.R. of the crucial necessity of petroleum in modern warfare. In 1947, the U.S.S.R. had (as its petroleum “experts” then estimated) very limited petroleum reserves, of which the largest were the oil fields in the region of the Abseron peninsula, near the Caspian city Baku in the present country of Azerbaijan. At that time, the oil fields near Baku were considered to be “depleting” and “nearing exhaustion.” During World War II, the Soviets had occupied the two northern provinces of Iran; in 1946, the British government had forced them out. By 1947, the Soviets realized that the American, British, and French were not going to allow them to operate in the middle east, nor in the petroleum producing areas of Africa, nor Indonesia, nor Burma, nor Malaysia, nor anywhere in the far east, nor in Latin America. The government of the Soviet Union recognized then that new petroleum reserves would have to be discovered and developed within the U.S.S.R.

The government of the Soviet Union initiated a “Manhattan Project” type program, which was given the highest priority to study every aspect of petroleum, to determine its origins and how petroleum reserves are generated, and to ascertain what might be the most effective strategies for petroleum exploration. At that time, Russia benefited from the excellent educational system which had been introduced after the 1917 revolution. The Russian petroleum community had then almost two generations of highly educated, scientifically competent men and women, ready to take up the problem of petroleum origins. Modern Russian petroleum science followed within five years."

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oil is poison
Posted by: chrysalis124812 on Jul 7, 2008 11:29 AM   
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So quit using it.

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Impeach & Prosecute Bush & Co.!
Posted by: Sidra on Jul 7, 2008 12:09 PM   
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Good article. And yes, while many of us on the left knew that the war was really about oil and imperalism from the beginning; many others including some so-called liberals, moderates and conservatives, were bamboozled by the 'patriotic flag-waving bullsh_t' perpetuated by the Bush Admin and neocons! It's obvious now that the oil companies are a band of thiefs -- and while it is late in the day, bashing this article doesn't help the situation. Before anything will be done, many more Americans need to be informed and wake up to the reality of the situation, and this article by Bill Moyer's and others will help to do just that!

The real question, once more Americans realize the truth, is what are we going to do about it? Most of you seem more concerned about the price of oil. While I don't like the higher prices at the pump, what really has me seeing red is the MASS MURDER of innocent people for profit!

In addition to the over 4,000 Americans murdered because of this immoral-illegal war, it is estimated by some sources that over a MILLION innocent Iraqi men, women, CHILDREN AND BABIES have died because of this war! Then add in all the wounded (without sufficient medical care/supplies), destruction of infrastructure, civil war, millions of refugees, people near starvation, astronomical rates of children born with severe birth defects and incidents of cancer, due to the USA's use of depleted uranium and other 'mysterious' weapons used in places like Fallujah, etc. What the USA has done to Iraq is totally unforgivable. Not one child or baby should have suffered. Not one!

God will not be mocked -- he will punish this country for the transgressions committed against innocent people . . . and every one of us who does not acknowledge the horror we have wrought to the Iraqi people, and believe we should leave Iraq now AND pay the Iraqi people repriations for their loss (even though money can never repay them for what we have done) is as much to blame as the criminal cabal in power!

Wake up America. We have lost our way and our collective soul. I for one am willing to be an outsider in my culture, I refuse to look the other way. Please join me and hit the issue home that America is responsible for mass murder. When presented thusly, maybe people who use to have integrity will feel ashamed and start to demand that their representatives in Congress support the 35 Articles of Impeachment introduced by Rep. Kuchnich -- hopefully before we are responsible for another holocaust in Iran!

Once Bush and Co. are impeached, then they need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of national and international law for mass murder and other crimes against humanity and treason. And once they're proven guilty (which shouldn't be that hard to do, since the whole world is a witness to their crimes)then lets send them all to prison for the rest of the MF lives!

Amen

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Cheney's plan
Posted by: zipoka on Jul 7, 2008 12:38 PM   
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Right or wrong (wrong), I don't understand why this oil war has been done so incompetently, so expensively, over years and years! Maybe a cover-up to provide time for the building of infrastructure and pipelines to get the oil out of Iraq?

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The future is clear, we must build homes off the grid
Posted by: Missing Piece on Jul 7, 2008 8:10 PM   
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it is the only way to stop funding these criminals.

Biuld an earth home with wind and solar hot water, put in infloor heat and buy an electric car to store your electricity from the wind. you won't need airconditioning because the ground is a constant 70 dagrees. I have many more ideas but this is what anyone with resources should do. this is our future if we want to be free. your either a slave to the land or a slave to man. you decide

Good luck

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» thanks for the link Posted by: Missing Piece
Duh
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Jul 7, 2008 8:39 PM   
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Well duh, of course it was all about oil. the American Sheeple are fooled yet once again. LOL

JT
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Amerika is about FASCISM (all along)
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Jul 8, 2008 2:54 AM   
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"Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people."
Henry Kissinger (ex U.S. Secretary of State and weekly "advisor" to the Bush-Cheney regime. Kissenger appointed Paul Bremer to "dominate" Iraq. Quote 1970)

Never ceases to amaze how sandbox gullible Americans are. As long as they have cable and 6-pack most will buy any Kool-Aid shoveled at them from the usual MSM-Washington corporate monopoly crime show.

Until a gallon of Big Oil and loaf of bread costs $10 in worthless fiat scrip, and all options are burned down with the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, of course.

Then the good little sheep will care that the wolf is their shepherd.

If the founders could see what their efforts have wrought they would never stop throwing up.

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