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War on Iraq

U.S. Continues to Brutalize Iraqis in the Cause of the 'Surge'

By Tom Engelhardt, Tomdispatch.com. Posted June 30, 2008.


Five years after the invasion, to speak of this urge to surge and its results as "success" or as "good news" is essentially obscene.
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On March 19, 2003, as his shock-and-awe campaign against Iraq was being launched, George W. Bush addressed the nation. "My fellow citizens," he began, "at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger." We were entering Iraq, he insisted, "with respect for its citizens, for their great civilization and for the religious faiths they practice. We have no ambition in Iraq, except to remove a threat and restore control of that country to its own people."

Within weeks, of course, that "great civilization" was being looted, pillaged, and shipped abroad. Saddam Hussein's Baathist dictatorship was no more and, soon enough, the Iraqi Army of 400,000 had been officially disbanded by L. Paul Bremer, the head of the occupying Coalition Provisional Authority and the President's viceroy in Baghdad. By then, ministry buildings -- except for the oil and interior ministries -- were just looted shells. Schools, hospitals, museums, libraries, just about everything that was national or meaningful, had been stripped bare. Meanwhile, in their new offices in Saddam's former palaces, America's neoconservative occupiers were already bringing in the administration's crony corporations -- Halliburton and its subsidiary KBR, Bechtel, and others -- to finish off the job of looting the country under the rubric of "reconstruction." Somehow, these "administrators" managed to "spend" $20 billion of Iraq's oil money, already in the "Development Fund for Iraq," even before the first year of occupation was over -- and to no effect whatsoever. They also managed to create what Ed Harriman in the London Review of Books labeled "the least accountable and least transparent regime in the Middle East." (No small trick given the competition.)

Before the Sunni insurgency even had a chance to ramp up in 2003, they were already pouring billions of U.S. tax dollars into what would become their massive military mega-bases meant to last a millennium, and, of course, they were dreaming about opening Iraq's oil industry to the major oil multinationals and to a privatized future as an oil spigot for the West.

On May 1, 2003, six weeks after he had announced his war to the nation and the world, the President landed on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln, an aircraft carrier returning from the Persian Gulf where its planes had just launched 16,500 missions and dropped 1.6 million pounds of ordnance on Iraq. From its flight deck, he spoke triumphantly, against the backdrop of a "Mission Accomplished" banner, assuring Americans that we had "prevailed." "Today," he said, "we have the greater power to free a nation by breaking a dangerous and aggressive regime. With new tactics and precision weapons, we can achieve military objectives without directing violence against civilians." In fact, according to Human Rights Watch, the initial shock-and-awe strikes he had ordered killed only civilians, possibly hundreds of them, without touching a single official of Saddam Hussein's "regime."

Who's Counting Now?

Since that first day of "liberation," Iraqis have never stopped dying in prodigious numbers. Now, more than five years after the U.S. "prevailed" with such "precision," a more modest version of the same success story has once again taken the beaches of the mainstream media, if not by storm, then by siege. When it comes to Iraq, the good news is unavoidable. It's in the air. Not victory exactly, but a slow-motion movement toward a "stable" Iraq, a country with which we might be moderately content.

The President's surge -- those extra 30,000 ground troops sent into Iraq in the first half of 2007 -- has, it is claimed, proven the negativity of all the doubters and critics unwarranted. Indeed, it is now agreed, security conditions have improved significantly and in ways "that few thought likely a year ago."

You already know the story well enough. It turns out that, as in Vietnam many decades ago, the U.S. military is counting like mad. So, for instance, according to the Pentagon, attacks on American and Iraqi troops are down 70% compared to June 2007; IED (roadside bomb) attacks have dropped almost 90% over the same period; in May, for the first time, fewer Americans died in Iraq than in Afghanistan (where the President's other war, some seven-plus years later, is going poorly indeed); and, above all else, "violence" is down. ("All major indicators of violence in Iraq have dropped by between 40 and 80 percent since February 2007, when President Bush committed an additional 30,000 troops to the war there, the Pentagon reported.")


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Tom Engelhardt, co-founder of the American Empire Project, runs the Nation Institute's TomDispatch.com. The World According to TomDispatch: America in the New Age of Empire (Verso, 2008), a collection of some of the best pieces from his site, has just been published. Focusing on what the mainstream media hasn't covered, it is an alternative history of the mad Bush years. A brief video in which Engelhardt discusses American mega-bases in Iraq can be viewed by clicking here.

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What a tragic farce
Posted by: vox persona on Jun 30, 2008 2:18 AM   
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Sure the surge is working....the death squads unleashed by the Bush blunder have nearly completed their goals. The ethnic cleansing is nearly complete. The middle class has fled, communities have been ridden of the evil 'other side', and now we pay/bribe those who up until recently were shooting at us, as billions disappear without a trace into the hands of corrupt Iraqi officials and war profiteers.

Spending $6000 per second in Iraq since our imperial occupation, off budget and borrowed from China, has ripped open our treasury, weakened our dollar to the point of collapse, and destabilized the most sensitive region in the world, while at the same radicalizing the most violent element on earth after Bush created the no mans land and told them to 'bring'em on'.

Our evangelical president seemed to glibly and deliberately bring on his own personal end times which is in his theology. Already, it resembles Chapter 9 of Revelation, a personal armegeddon for Iraqi citizens.

Using ever-shifting rationales and retroactive pretexts, Bush marched this country into the hellish sandpits of Mesopotamia, only made worse that Bush and Cheney evaded combat through privilege when it was their turn. 'Other priorities' my ass.

Bush sold his war like so much soap and snake oil, with lies like 'last resort' and 'we will stay not a day longer than necessary'. After their term, if they indeed go quietly, CheneyBu$hCo should have to live for two years in Iraq, outside the green zone.

Now, McLame equates it with our 'occupation' of Germany oer Japan, which disqualifies him in my eyes from giving him the button.

This war is a farce, this mis-administration is a sham, and the world has yet to experience the full consequences of what Bush hath wrought.

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» RE: What a tragic farce Posted by: abbadon2007
Instead of having moved
Posted by: weathered on Jun 30, 2008 3:13 AM   
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into a new and very challenged century w/esteemable hope, we are being dragged down into a dark, draconian hole w/out a flashlight.

Arrest Silverstein/Bushcon and heal or stay stuck in the Lie.

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SHAME on you America, Shame!
Posted by: Smiggsy on Jun 30, 2008 5:11 AM   
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SHAME on you America, Shame!

I think this just about sums it up for me without getting into any of the many & myriad of terrible details & associated complications involved with this mess....horrific & tragic details & complications which would number into the millions given enough thought. Should I happen to give "the mess" considered & weighted contentious thought it would be outright upsetting and no doubt give me a headache for an eternity. May GWBush & his political cronies rot in hell.

I will offer one simplistic mathematic solution for you to all to ponder:

The Representative Federal Government of United States of America = PURE EVIL

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lenteach
Posted by: lenteach on Jun 30, 2008 6:08 AM   
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Let's keep telling the truth about Iraq but let's not drown ourselves in every detail of every horror Bush/Cheney are about there. We must FOCUS on ourselves at home, what is being done to us or else America will become another IRAQ, another wasteland,filled with jobless,uneducated,wandering refugees,sick and dying with nowhere to go. You can see the beginnings of it already. Housing foreclosures,attacks on health care and medicare,social security,a dwindling middle class as poverty grows,an entrenched aristocracy sucking the wealth out of "globalization" and outsourcing. Once touted as the future of America,the global economy is the end of America's future.We will become another dustbowl like the 1930's, with no credit,no cash,no homes or jobs. Our kids will die by the millions like they do in Iraq and we will flee from our families so we don't have to watch.Cheneyvilles instead of Hoovervilles will be our lot, while Exxon-Halliburton builds more financial towers in Dubai and Bahrain and the U.S. and Mexico will merge into one land of nothing.
So get to work and elect Obama or else articles like this will sap your will.

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Does anyone give a damn?
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Jun 30, 2008 6:24 AM   
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This report is old hat and available heretofore many times over to anyone with a conscience, brain and internet access. The criminal invasion of Iraq cannot be annointed with favor without endorsing wrong as a means to achieve a conjured right. The Iraqis don't matter and it isn't only the Bushoids that ignore their plight. When asked whether she felt any remorse about the 500,000 Iraqi children killed or deformed as a result of U.N. imposed sanctions, then Secretary of State Madeleine Albright replied it was "worth it" as an effort to get rid of Saddam Hussein. This hallowed(?) Democrat sounds as sub-human as any Bushoid and no doubt spoke for the Clinton crowd. I repeat, does anyone give a damn? I think not. Selah.

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When do you call this fascism?
Posted by: citizenjoe on Jun 30, 2008 6:33 AM   
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If we think of fascism as a totalitarian corporate dictatorship with powers to perpetuate itself, then on this model, the Bush regime is not fascist. It has yet to prove itself willing to maintain its imperial and authoritarian programs by ending a system of elections with the authority to throw its people out of office. But, then, a war with Iran or another terrorist attack by the fundamentalists Cheney is funding in Northern Iraq and Baluchistan could allow them to declare a state of emergency and govern by decree. Would you then say that they are fascists?

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» You make the fundamental error... Posted by: photon's feather
» I disagee with that? Posted by: citizenjoe
War for Dummies
Posted by: particle on Jun 30, 2008 6:35 AM   
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Hooray for us! Brutality works!

Death and suffering is not just fun, but is actually a good thing if you call it "creative destruction!"

Hell if we pop the grape on every greasy meat stick in eye-rack things will be real quiet!

USA!! USA!!
OO!! OO!! OO!!
KILL!! KILL!! KILL!!
BOO-YAAAAAA!!!!

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» RE: War for Dummies Posted by: particle
Hope Obama is not another snake in the grass
Posted by: solrev on Jun 30, 2008 6:44 AM   
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This cannot end well. Not for Washington. Not for the U.S. military. Not for Americans. And, above all, not for Iraqis.

I think Obama if he wins can make it end well for the Iraqi. If Obama uses is organizational skills, he can create a winning unity ticket in Iraq. Their own oil is a pretty big carrot. However, the way he has been pandering lately for political points, makes me wonder. Like Vietnam, there was never anything for us to win in Iraq just another political delusion. If it takes a 100 years the Iraqi nationalists will win, democracy or not they are the majority. How can Arab Sunni and al Sadr Shia be insurgents in their own land?

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Washington’s new alibi for a criminal war: the “surge has worked”
Posted by: xvictor on Jun 30, 2008 6:49 AM   
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What precisely is the “success” that they are all talking about, how was it achieved and what purpose is it to serve? What has been sown is death and destruction on a massive scale. In Iraq, Washington has carried out the greatest crimes against humanity of the new century.

The secret to the supposed success of the surge is plain to see. If you kill over a million people, wound and maim perhaps three times that many, turn five million more into exiles or refugees in their own land, round up tens of thousands of the young men who have survived this slaughter and imprison them without charges in detention camps, it is possible to achieve a temporary suppression of popular resistance.

The “personal traits” of George W. Bush that equipped him to preside over such a venture are gross ignorance, sadism, an unflinching commitment to the interests of the financial aristocracy into which he was born, and an absolute contempt for the suffering of working people. He is, in short, a mental cipher and a moral cripple.

No doubt from Berlin in 1939 the Nazi “surge” into Poland also seemed a great success, achieved by similar methods, and there were many who attributed this to the “personal traits,” including the stubbornness and self-confidence, of Germany’s Führer.

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Bizarro World 601:The Surge
Posted by: jim_altman on Jun 30, 2008 7:14 AM   
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Mr. Englehardt makes an insightful observation about our involvement in Iraq: it's a mirror image of our involvement in Vietnam. The 1968 Tet Offensive was North Vietnam/China's "surge," that even though it failed militarily changed our whole psychology of what victory meant. One-two-three, what were we fighting for? It no longer mattered so long as you made it home. But, the real smoke and mirrors of this war is not in the death tolls, but in the wounded. Public relations move number one: we supress our own casualty levels. Battlefield casualties would be at Tet levels if it weren't for the advances in battlefield medicine. We're much more talented at sustaining the armless, the legless, and the brain damaged than we were forty years ago. If they die miserably a year or so later as a VA outpatient here in the USA, it's tragic, but it wasn't a battlefield casualty, was it?

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PAX AMERICANA REDUX
Posted by: thebeerdoctor on Jun 30, 2008 7:24 AM   
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I found these remarkable sentences by anarchist Emma Goldman, published in December 1934 in Harper's: "government protects the strong at the expense of the weak, provides courts and laws which the rich may scorn and the poor must obey. It enables the predatory rich to make wars to provide foreign markets for the favored ones, with prosperity for the rulers and wholesale death for the ruled."

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» RE: PAX AMERICANA REDUX Posted by: Zeugitai
Join the party.
Posted by: carbon-based on Jun 30, 2008 7:50 AM   
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It amazes me how the Iraqi's took to killing each other and looting their country!

Once freed from Saddam they seemed to miss the fun and felt they had to continue the murder and torture!

That Bush could not see this coming amazes me. America, with all good intentions dispite what this hit peice says, blundered into Iraq, eyes closed and created this disaster.

It's a good thing they have oil!!!!

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» RE: Your comments Posted by: DesertStone
Oil and Extraterritoiality and a wholesale sellout by the puppet government
Posted by: warble on Jun 30, 2008 8:33 AM   
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Last year, it was said that the Iraqi government would never allow the privatization of their oil. But, Bush has been taking 2,000,000 gallons of oil out of Iraq for the past 5 years? According to the news today, Iraqi oil fields are being taken over by 4 large oil companies. It appears that the puppet government has privatized Iraqi oil? Is this right and why has there not been any news about this?

Additionally, extraterritoriality cedes sovereignty of Iraq over to the United States as pointed out here. Does that mean that the puppet agreement has signed over their sovereignty to the United States?

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Bush-wacked
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jun 30, 2008 8:38 AM   
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Of course the surge is working....How anyone believes that it is is denying reality. Most of the people that could afford to have fled the country, the ones that couldn't have stayed and died.

I don't know why anyone should be surprised that the "ambassadors" that have been sent don't know what they are doing - does anyone remember Michael heck'of'a'job- Brownie? And yet, Sen. McCain is lauding these policies even as he denies the troops pay!

Please, I wonder how Americans would react if this were happening on American soil! We would be up in arms, and take up arms. Let's see how many people would quote the 2nd Amendment (Right to Bear Arms) then. And yet the MSM continue to print the swizzle that this administration keeps pouring out.

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Bush the Terrorist
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 30, 2008 9:04 AM   
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On April 7, 2003, under standing orders from George W., a B1 bomber carried out a decapitation strike on a Baghdad restaurant where Saddam Hussein was eating a late lunch. Reportedly.

Shortly after the mission began, the Ace of Spades, suspecting he had been betrayed by someone on his staff, slipped out of the al-Sa’ah restaurant’s backdoor and fled the scene. Ten minutes later, four 2,000-pound bunker busters dropped by the diverted bomber blew the suburban eatery to bits along with cooks, waiters, bus boys, customers, cashier, pedestrians passing by and the occupants of three nearby homes.

Fourteen civilians died in that Baghdad neighborhood on April 7, people who lost their lives simply for being there, including two young children. Yet back in the United States, few Americans protested the barbaric aspect of the B1 mission, not on TV or in the press anyway. Quite the contrary, there was glorification of Bush’s decision to “take out Saddam,” as so many in his administration enjoyed saying. Well, that’s not how I felt.

Because I know something about the misery of warfare, the B1 mission horrified me. I was also outraged at Bush for allowing such an atrocity to happen. When a president of the United States decides to preemptively strike another country for the first time in American history with massive air power, then, by God, he had better get it right. And that doesn’t mean killing innocent human beings because he has a grudge against their leader.

Republicans will retort, “We killed millions of civilians in World War Two, thousands at a time.” True, but there’s a difference. A humungous one. We didn’t start the hostilities. Germany and Japan did.

The president claims to be a born-again Christian who got a second chance at life when he turned 40. If that’s the case and not just hypocritical bullshit for public consumption, then he’d better get down on his knees and beg forgiveness from Jesus for killing those poor people on April 7. Because if George W. doesn’t show contrition, which I haven’t seen or heard expressed so far, he may end up in the eternal down-under sharing a table with Saddam and his sons in a barbecue joint called “Hell.”

To excuse our cowboy commander-in-chief, Republicans will argue he didn’t give orders to the B1 crew; someone else did. But that reason won’t wash, either. As our nation’s top military leader who authorized the decapitation strike, he has blood on his hands just like Osama bin Laden.

Here’s the nexus in a nutshell. For the loved ones of 9/11 victims, it’s heart-wrenching to hear but must be said. If you believe as I do that human lives are precious, especially those of children who deserve an opportunity to grow up and have kids of their own, then we must face the truth no matter how painful. Other than motivation, the only difference between a B1 dropping bombs on a civilian restaurant from 30,000 feet and someone flying a jetliner into an office building is the number of people that die.

As an addendum to this tawdry tale, in 2004 I watched George W. on CNN. He was in the Oval Office answering questions about a retaliatory air assault against Syria by Israeli jets. The reason for the revenge mission was a Hamas suicide bombing of a crowded Jewish eating establishment that killed 20 people.

When asked by a White House reporter if the Israeli raid was justified, Bush glowered and replied sternly, “When Hamas blows up a restaurant with civilians inside, that’s terrorism.”

I kid you not. I heard him say that with my own ears. Those were the exact words spoken by George bin Laden.

From the book, George Dub-ya Bush, THE PHONY FIGHTER PILOT, by
Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, registered Republican and Obama supporter

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Hurrah
Posted by: mistery509 on Jun 30, 2008 10:05 AM   
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George W. Bush accomplished what he wanted. He and his right hand man, Cheney made their wishes come true. War in Iraq is going swell, Afghanistan may be in a bit of trouble, but that happens sometimes. The surge is certainly working. The oil companies are rich. Happy, happy, George. Happy, happy Dick.

Now if only they could attack Iran. Wouldn't that be something. This will finish off George and Dick's dream. Then of course there is McCain ready to take over their dream. All ready, set to go.

See them smile. See them happy. See them prosper.

No one can stop them now.

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syed mahdi
Posted by: salamah on Jun 30, 2008 10:58 AM   
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The Iraqi Invasion was for 2 MAIN REASONS which have been denied by the Bushies, over and over again!
1. For Jews
2. For Oil
as follows:
1. The Jews have always wanted REVENGE for their Babylonian Captivity at the hands of Nebuchadnasser! They got the Americans to take THEIR revenge for them. For this reason, the pillaging, looting and destruction of Ancient Babylonian Culture & Civilization which Bremer let loose from DAY ONE on the Cradle of Civilization!This has been mostly achieved. Still, there remains a part of the Babylonian Empire which has yet to be vandalized in revenge for something which happened 4 millineums back. This part is in today's Iran. Iran. The Jews are now pushing the Americans to invade Iran for the same purpose which is to wipe out the memories of their captivity. It does not matter to the Jews if today's Iraqis and Iranians are not Babylonians and/or Mesopotamians just like it did not matter to them when the Palestinians were not the Canaanites who Joshua butchered to establish a Jewish Kingdom in Palestine which lasted at the most 400 years. The Arabs ruled parts of Spain for 700 years! Watch out Italians and Germans for what the Romans and Nazis did to the Jews. The Jews will get their pound of flesh and they have no problem in waiting.
2. Oil, the second reason, is in the process of being secured in these months. For OIL, Iraq had to be destroyed, millions killed, maimed, made into refugees and left to fend for themselves within sectarian walled ghettos.

So far so good for the Jews and the Oilies but every action has an equal and opposite reaction. In the Middle East the reaction will be MORE than equal. The Arabs and the Persians are neither INJUNS nor Aborigines! The Jews, the Greeks, the Romans, the Mongols, the Tartars, the Ottomans, the British and th French have taken their turns at playing GOD in the lands of the Arabs and the Persians. Where are they now? OZYMANDIUS! Ruins of Tel Aviv and the US Embassy in Baghdad will be covered by the sands of Arabia and Persia and shephards will still be waliking right over them with their sheep and camel herds! IfHistory teaches anything it teaches THIS!

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syed mahdi
Posted by: salamah on Jun 30, 2008 10:58 AM   
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The Iraqi Invasion was for 2 MAIN REASONS which have been denied by the Bushies, over and over again!
1. For Jews
2. For Oil
as follows:
1. The Jews have always wanted REVENGE for their Babylonian Captivity at the hands of Nebuchadnasser! They got the Americans to take THEIR revenge for them. For this reason, the pillaging, looting and destruction of Ancient Babylonian Culture & Civilization which Bremer let loose from DAY ONE on the Cradle of Civilization!This has been mostly achieved. Still, there remains a part of the Babylonian Empire which has yet to be vandalized in revenge for something which happened 4 millineums back. This part is in today's Iran. Iran. The Jews are now pushing the Americans to invade Iran for the same purpose which is to wipe out the memories of their captivity. It does not matter to the Jews if today's Iraqis and Iranians are not Babylonians and/or Mesopotamians just like it did not matter to them when the Palestinians were not the Canaanites who Joshua butchered to establish a Jewish Kingdom in Palestine which lasted at the most 400 years. The Arabs ruled parts of Spain for 700 years! Watch out Italians and Germans for what the Romans and Nazis did to the Jews. The Jews will get their pound of flesh and they have no problem in waiting.
2. Oil, the second reason, is in the process of being secured in these months. For OIL, Iraq had to be destroyed, millions killed, maimed, made into refugees and left to fend for themselves within sectarian walled ghettos.

So far so good for the Jews and the Oilies but every action has an equal and opposite reaction. In the Middle East the reaction will be MORE than equal. The Arabs and the Persians are neither INJUNS nor Aborigines! The Jews, the Greeks, the Romans, the Mongols, the Tartars, the Ottomans, the British and th French have taken their turns at playing GOD in the lands of the Arabs and the Persians. Where are they now? OZYMANDIUS! Ruins of Tel Aviv and the US Embassy in Baghdad will be covered by the sands of Arabia and Persia and shephards will still be waliking right over them with their sheep and camel herds! IfHistory teaches anything it teaches THIS!

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Posted by: two on Jun 30, 2008 12:03 PM   
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It is not healthy to be an Arab!

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Death of a Nation
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Jun 30, 2008 12:05 PM   
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Iraq is dying. And we're causing its demise day by day.
Five years into this "war" and nothing's been solved. The United States and its "coalition" forces (although some had left knowing that it wasn't their fight) are sorely responsible for the genocide happening over there.
The President and Congress decided to turn Iraq into a grave and shoved its logic, ideals, hopes and dreams and slaughtered Iraq's young just to "avenge" 9-11 and take Iraq's oil. And no one in Capitol Hill is remotely crestfallen over the killings of Iraqi civilians. Well maybe a few.
Even the Axis powers was spared a horrific fate which has befallen Iraq today.

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Posted by: two on Jun 30, 2008 12:06 PM   
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Why the new mantra is "get those Arabs" Or is it a new one, perhaps it all started the day WW2 ended????

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Posted by: two on Jun 30, 2008 12:10 PM   
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Why even worry about those dark Arabs, who are heathens and dont deserve anything, why they are very close to the real dark ones, who also are heathens. Let the dominant powers enjoy this in fact they have been enjoying it for the past 50 somewhat years!

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Posted by: two on Jun 30, 2008 12:18 PM   
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Tired of death and torture, why you dont have what it takes! You need to be aggressive, to have no feelings for truth, for injustices, you need to think and feel violent or else you are not a survivor in the New World Order!

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» RE: espond Posted by: Dboy
surge smurge
Posted by: rjm on Jun 30, 2008 12:30 PM   
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If you look at the news coming out of iraq, indicating that the western oil giants are being offered "consulting fee only" pieces of the action... then the decreased overall violence in the country may be viewed in a different context.

while the western interests were demanding outright and perpetual control of the oil, there was violent resistance.

now that the (primarily american) western corporations are willing to settle for scraps to be determined by the iraqis, the violence has somewhat subsided.

all bush had to do, to mellow the iraqis out, was to quit (overtly) trying to steal their oil.

i'm guessing that the surge, under continued pressure to ensure foreign control of the oil, would (and can still) fail miserably.

if mcain can misrepresent the surge as an effective victory and use that to get elected, republicans can then renew the pressure to steal the oil without fearing the political ramifications of an iraq descending back into violence.

it seems the neo-cons are convinced that, given enough time, the political system of iraq can be corrupted every bit as thoroughly as the political system in the united states. if that happens, cheney's oil buddies will get their prize after all.

but of course it really doesnt matter, because america will have access to that oil anyhow, the same way they would have had access to it if they simply continued doing business with saddam hussein.

btw, there is no question that today's oil prices are a function of u.s. foreign policy.

dick cheney looks to be the likely suspect.

rjm

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Posted by: mnstra on Jun 30, 2008 12:42 PM   
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What does it say about our values in the invasion of Iraq;when American troops protected the oil ministry while it allowed the wholesale looting of ancient antiquities during the first days of the war.We are about oil, make no mistake. We are the worst energy addicts the planet has ever seen, and everything else is unimportant.Only the ruling elite will have their private museums, while we send our young men to shed their blood .Nothing new here in world history . The rich and powerful get what they want. This will always be the case until every last drop of oil is gone.

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The only farce in this repeating of history is the pretension of moral probity
Posted by: mclemens on Jun 30, 2008 1:48 PM   
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I've been going back and reading Izzie Stone's prescient commentary from 40 years ago, and came upon this all-too-germane passage today:

"Compare the Orwellian double-think of Johnson's speech with the anguished description of what we are really doing to South Vietnam in the New York Times Magazine October 9 by Neil Sheehan, just back from three years of covering the war.

"'I wonder,' Sheehan wrote, 'when I look at the bombed-out peasant hamlets, the orphans begging and stealing in the streets, and the women and children with napalm burns lying on the hospital cots, whether the United States or any nation has the right to inflict this suffering and degradation on another people for its own ends.'

"This is the abomination against which the world's conscience must be mobilized. This is the horror we must not let any phony olive branches elsewhere hide from view. This is the crime our country is committing. And this is what we must condemn, lest a later generation ask of us, as they ask of the Germans, who spoke up?"

--I.F. Stone, October 16, 1966

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Don't think the psychopaths in charge will lose through voters
Posted by: nightgaunt on Jun 30, 2008 3:05 PM   
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The whole system has been rigged since at least 2000 and it hasn't been changed. Just to be sure they have two judases running who would tow the line of the new empire. I did wonder why Kucinich who had the reasons and experiance to end this empire was eliminated early. Obama doesn't offer much in the way of change that I can see. Do any of you and if so what? USA involved in a warcrime [Iraq & Afghanistan] to stop it? End support for sending our jobs overseas and protecting corporations from their workers? The vast inequality is literally killing us. Not as terrible as in occupied Iraq but it is deadly in a more subtle way.

What is going on in Iraq is just fine for them. Attacking Iran will give them the leverage to maintain the war mood and increased xenophobia especially against the the Muslim religion and free speech here. It will just be another level of control that will be instigated. Incrimental totalitarianism in a formally free society.

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Whoa. I don't care. :/
Posted by: Starfall Deception on Jun 30, 2008 6:50 PM   
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Is it horrible to say that I don't care anymore? After five years of the same thing, I'm completely numb to it. So more people in the Middle East are dying because both sides refuse to stop shooting the crap out of each other. Big deal. Forget about fixing the Middle East fiasco-- fix my apathy.

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» RE: Whoa. I don't care. :/ Posted by: vivachavez
» RE: Whoa. I don't care. :/ Posted by: jim_altman
» RE: American savages Posted by: DesertStone
What Hypocrisy and Insanity
Posted by: vivachavez on Jun 30, 2008 7:43 PM   
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The Bush administration is spending billions to upgrade Iraq's electrical and wastewater treatment infrastructure ostensibly (the money that goes to private contractors to do the rebuilding often is wasted because the reconstruction doesn't get finished), yet threatened to veto a very popular domestic spending bill to upgrade AMERICA's wastewater treatment infrastructure.

How pathetic is that?

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» no bid contract.... Posted by: denk
RE: Whoa. I don't care
Posted by: InsertName on Jun 30, 2008 8:36 PM   
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Here's, I hope, a quick way to fix your apathy. Picture YOURSELF and YOUR OWN LIFE in another 15-20 years (assuming you still plan to be alive by then). Now picture that BushCo has gotten its way on every front. There's no longer any doubt about the reality of "peak oil" as most Americans can no longer afford to drive a car. The crime rate in the US is out of control because our energy resources and agriculture have been squandered by careless selfish depletion. Global warming is no longer a "fruitcake" idea. You can see its efffects on YOUR OWN LIFE every day as you and your family worry about how to scrimp up enough money to fill your bellies with food as it becomes scarce. At least Americans no longer worry about bulging midsections. Most are too busy worrying about whether or not there's still enough drinkable water and unused amunition left in the house. Marshall law is finally palatable because: 1. it was introduced gradually, 2. it's not enforced by imposing & arrogant human soldiers, but by constant electronic surveilance making sure YOU tow the party line, 3. Hollywood still makes movies 4. the reason for the shortages and crime is always an eternal foreign enemy. Thank GOD we finally gave away all of those naive rights and freedoms that were exposing us to the danger of our neighbors. Believe me, when your children are hungry you'll be glad to sacrifice the last remnants of the Constitution if you think that doing so will feed and protect them.

The fact is that most Americans are now harboring doomsday scenarios in the backs of their minds (one in ten are so called "end timers" operating under the delusion that they can actively destroy the Earth and will still be whisked away at the right moment so they don't have to face the consequenses of their own actions. One of them is in the White House and one of the people trying to take his place is appealing, at every chance he gets, to "end times" voters saying that he won't let them down.

Most Americans think something will finally put a stop to this runaway freight train away from democracy. They've become apathetic because they think they will manage to weather the storm. IN REALITY, NO MOVIE PLOT WILL PREPARE US FOR WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE IN THIS COUNTRY UNDER A DERANGED COMBINATION OF AN ORWELLIAN TOTALITARIAN GOVERNMENT, RULING A POPULATION SO DESTITUTE THAT OUR DAILY LIVES ARE MORE LIKE KILL OR BE KILLED ANARCHY. THINK 1984 MEETS THE RECENT REMAKE OF DAWN OF THE DEAD.

The big winners will be: anyone who owns large plots of land, people with enough money to escape, the NRA, bottled water companies, and anyone who had the foresight to realize that oil would always be profitable as long as there's a drop left in the Earth's crust that hasn't been converted to greenhouse gas. Besides, some people are actually happier under totalitarian rule. If you don't fit the profile of the winners, you won't be apathetic. You'll be too busy worrying about survival.

Sorry to sound glum. I think th