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War on Iraq

The War in Iraq Is Pure Murder

By Chris Hedges, Tomdispatch.com. Posted June 6, 2008.


We have embarked on an occupation that is as damaging to our souls as to our prestige and power and security.
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This piece has been adapted from the introduction to the just-published book, Collateral Damage: America's War Against Iraqi Civilians by Chris Hedges and Laila al-Arian (Nation Books, 2008).

Troops, when they battle insurgent forces, as in Iraq, or Gaza or Vietnam, are placed in "atrocity producing situations." Being surrounded by a hostile population makes simple acts, such as going to a store to buy a can of Coke, dangerous. The fear and stress push troops to view everyone around them as the enemy. The hostility is compounded when the enemy, as in Iraq, is elusive, shadowy and hard to find. The rage soldiers feel after a roadside bomb explodes, killing or maiming their comrades, is one that is easily directed, over time, to innocent civilians who are seen to support the insurgents.

Civilians and combatants, in the eyes of the beleaguered troops, merge into one entity. These civilians, who rarely interact with soldiers or Marines, are to most of the occupation troops in Iraq nameless, faceless, and easily turned into abstractions of hate. They are dismissed as less than human. It is a short psychological leap, but a massive moral leap. It is a leap from killing -- the shooting of someone who has the capacity to do you harm -- to murder -- the deadly assault against someone who cannot harm you.

The war in Iraq is now primarily about murder. There is very little killing. The savagery and brutality of the occupation is tearing apart those who have been deployed to Iraq. As news reports have just informed us, 115 American soldiers committed suicide in 2007. This is a 13% increase in suicides over 2006. And the suicides, as they did in the Vietnam War years, will only rise as distraught veterans come home, unwrap the self-protective layers of cotton wool that keep them from feeling, and face the awful reality of what they did to innocents in Iraq

American Marines and soldiers have become socialized to atrocity. The killing project is not described in these terms to a distant public. The politicians still speak in the abstract terms of glory, honor, and heroism, in the necessity of improving the world, in lofty phrases of political and spiritual renewal. Those who kill large numbers of people always claim it as a virtue. The campaign to rid the world of terror is expressed within the confines of this rhetoric, as if once all terrorists are destroyed evil itself will vanish.

The reality behind the myth, however, is very different. The reality and the ideal tragically clash when soldiers and Marines return home. These combat veterans are often alienated from the world around them, a world that still believes in the myth of war and the virtues of the nation. They confront the grave, existential crisis of all who go through combat and understand that we have no monopoly on virtue, that in war we become as barbaric and savage as those we oppose.

This is a profound crisis of faith. It shatters the myths, national and religious, that these young men and women were fed before they left for Iraq. In short, they uncover the lie they have been told. Their relationship with the nation will never be the same. These veterans give us a true narrative of the war -- one that exposes the vast enterprise of industrial slaughter unleashed in Iraq. They expose the lie.

War as Betrayal

"This unit sets up this traffic control point, and this 18 year-old kid is on top of an armored Humvee with a .50-caliber machine gun," remembered Sgt. Geoffrey Millard, who served in Tikrit with the 42nd Infantry Division. "And this car speeds at him pretty quick and he makes a split-second decision that that's a suicide bomber, and he presses the butterfly trigger and puts two hundred rounds in less than a minute into this vehicle. It killed the mother, a father, and two kids. The boy was aged four and the daughter was aged three.

"And they briefed this to the general," Millard said, "and they briefed it gruesome. I mean, they had pictures. They briefed it to him. And this colonel turns around to this full division staff and says, 'If these f---ing hajis learned to drive, this sh-t wouldn't happen.'"

Millard and tens of thousands of other veterans suffer not only delayed reactions to stress but this crisis of faith. The God they knew, or thought they knew, failed them. The church or the synagogue or the mosque, which promised redemption by serving God and country, did not prepare them for the awful betrayal of this civic religion, for the capacity we all have for human atrocity, for the stories of heroism used to mask the reality of war.

War is always about betrayal: betrayal of the young by the old, of idealists by cynics, and of troops by politicians. This bitter knowledge of betrayal has seeped into the ranks of America's Iraq War veterans. It has unleashed a new wave of disillusioned veterans not seen since the Vietnam War. It has made it possible for us to begin, again, to see war's death mask and understand our complicity in evil.


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Chris Hedges is the former Middle East Bureau Chief of the New York Times, a Pulitzer Prize winner, and a Senior Fellow at the Nation Institute. He is the author of several books including War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning. This piece has been adapted from the introduction to the just-published, Collateral Damage: America's War Against Iraqi Civilians (Nation Books), which he has co-authored with Laila al-Arian.

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Posted by: ScottP on Jun 6, 2008 9:20 AM   
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Thanks for speaking of what it's really like instead of making more of the propaganda that spews from the TV and politicians and profiteers. The vast majority of Americans couldn't care less about what's really going on in Iraq, the destruction, the hatred we're breeding there, and the hatred brought home. When I talk about it all I get is blank stares, like I'm talking in Swahili.

Most people don't even remember that Timothy McVeigh was a Gulf War vet, and that was the main reason he went off. The current misadventure is far worse than the previous one, and there will be far worse ramifications at home. Which suits the power freaks in DC just fine, they'll get to ratchet up the security apparatus at home in response. This spiral will go down a long way.

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» blank stares . . . Posted by: dustdevil
Required reading
Posted by: tbone on Jun 6, 2008 9:46 AM   
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If this passage could be read aloud with corresponding images of the death and atrocities, and then played on every television in the US for 1 hour in prime time, the sheeple might just wake up...but then someone in power would have to make the call...and we all know that won't happen. The media has become so fascistically patriotic they don't even realize their complicity in fueling the fire.

Those willing to admit the complete and moral failure of our entire country with regards to foreign policy are completely powerless to change it. Its synonymous with the your local police, they only come AFTER the crime has been committed. If you have direct access to someone who has returned from combat, give them any help you can, show them humanity can survive, give them hope. With hope comes change.

Good luck.

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» Good post, Tbone. Posted by: robbie.seal
not just McVeigh
Posted by: HighburyJD on Jun 6, 2008 9:49 AM   
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also the washington sniper was a Gulf War I vet. Recently released figures showed that more British soldiers who served in the Falklands have killed themselves since that war than died in action during it. 'Support the troops' is the uncontradictable mantra. Then you see the pathetic domestic veterans hospitals and support systems. Speak to anyone who works with the homeless and they'll tell you that staggering amounts of them are ex-services. Neither the US nor the UK even bothers to list or register the breakdowns, suicides or violent crimes of those who have served. Which makes it impossible to guage the true cost of war and easier to justify denying support to those who desperately need it.

One things for sure - just as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowtz, Perle et al avoided the draft not one of their family members will serve or suffer.

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» RE: not just McVeigh Posted by: opmoc
» RE: not just McVeigh Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: not just McVeigh Posted by: Lauren
» RE: not just McVeigh Posted by: Cybershaman
stormy7
Posted by: STORMY78 on Jun 6, 2008 3:10 PM   
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THE IRAQIS ARE FIGHTING THE TERRORISTS THAT INVADED THEIR BELOVED COUNTRY. WE WOULD DO THE SAME IF WE WERE INVADED.
EVERYDAY OUR TROOPS ARE THERE THEY ARE COMMITTING MURDER IN THE NAME OF BUSH'S SO CALLED FREEDOM.
THIS WAR MUST END AND THERE MUST BE ACCOUNTABILITY.

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» RE: stormy7 Posted by: Lauren
» Good Post, Lauren Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: (Patiently): Pretty much Posted by: oregoncharles
» Good to see you, Charles Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: : Pretty much Posted by: Lauren
» I guess he found a nerve... Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: stormy7 Posted by: dustdevil
comparison between nazi germany and usa
Posted by: hooligan on Jun 7, 2008 10:43 AM   
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is the USA actively engaged in casual ethnic cleansing on coincidental contact? whats scary is that the anecdotes are portrayed as a sample of behaviour. 12 stories from a possible 150,000 troops deployed means that the actual scale of casual racist genocide perpetrated by occupying american forces, rakes up the need to know how many iraqis have been killed by americans and how much responsibility america must take for creating the conditions where iraqis kill each other. Here are some number for you to ponder, one sample several years ago was 750,000 iraqi dead. we know that there are over 4,000 us combat casualties..the death toll must be over a million. Where is the pressure from within America for the equivalent of Nuremberg trials?

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Start counting from 1990.
Posted by: nightgaunt on Jun 8, 2008 1:36 PM   
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Then it starts to approach 4 million, 3x that in wounded,5 million more internally and externally homeless. When does the war crimes commission start for the USA? It only happens for the losers after all. Germany and Japan lost. Russia that invaded and occupied Poland was not charged nor sanctioned. Neither was any of the others involved in that war who also committed war crimes too.

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» We try our own Posted by: robbie.seal
» We don't try our own Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: Start counting from 1990. Posted by: helenwheels
Left out from the TITLE
Posted by: ScoobyDoobyDoo on Jun 9, 2008 4:14 AM   
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... Plunder, Profit and Filch. Definitely, the psycho-sociopath neocons are the latest evolution of unhuman pirates, thugs and mafia. The barbarians are not at the gate; they've taken over and sit on the throne running the show. These criminals need to be where they belong: behind bars. No immunity for criminals, with their secrecy and codes of silence... security for them, not America or the world.

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» RE: Left out from the TITLE Posted by: UndergroundPirate
» RE: Left out from the TITLE Posted by: warble
Outrageous Nation
Posted by: canadagirl on Jun 9, 2008 6:13 AM   
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All the "Foreign Aid" given to countries is specifically targeted for the sole purpose of future control of that nation. America does not understand what the World really feels about America. Why the hatred?

Most American's think so many good things happen because of their foreign policy. It is not the reality. Since the launching of 'Fat Boy', there has been a sense of disgust, with America. Since then, the invasion of so many nations, contribute to the disappointing, disgusting, contemptuous, hostile feelings toward America, from most nations of the World.

All her grand status, she gives herself, will not please any nation on earth. America is greedy, militant, exploitive, self-absorbed, while depriving it's own citizen's of an infrastructure, health care system, economic secure nation. It would rather go to war for power than have a peaceful nation.

It's own citizens crave what other nations have managed to give it's populus. Free healthcare for every citizen, lower tuition for post secondary, growth and prosperity. When these countries have a slow down, the services do not stop. This is a peaceful nation, not one that prefers it's military glory for happiness.

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» RE: Outrageous Nation Posted by: DesertStone
» RE: Outrageous Nation Posted by: warble
» RE: Outrageous Nation or comment? Posted by: nightgaunt
you must feel you are entitled to "power" over others
Posted by: DesertStone on Jun 9, 2008 9:55 AM   
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"We have embarked on an occupation that is as damaging to our souls as to our prestige and power and security."

screw your prestige and your power- self important american

that you feel the need to lament your "prestige" and "power" speaks for itself.

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» Screw both of you Posted by: robbie.seal
» Here's yours... Posted by: robbie.seal
The carnage has just begun
Posted by: bluepilgrim on Jun 11, 2008 12:50 AM   
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Wait and see as the radioactive war continues to take it toll, for ten, hundereds, thousands of years to come. Depleted uranium: we have poisoned Iraq (and wherever the wind blows) for millions of years.

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» RE: The carnage has just begun Posted by: richholland
Israel's gifts to America
Posted by: weathered on Jun 11, 2008 3:56 AM   
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acrimony, angst and a inexhaustable supply of manipulating deceit - all very carefully packaged and presented w/the phony and fraudulent energy of a Hollywood production.

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An Action which required Forethought and malice
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 11, 2008 4:09 AM   
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I do not give one ounce of credence tht this adminstration did not know what would happen if they put boots down in the Middle East. I told my husband when I heard we had invaded Afghanistan 'this is gonna be a Cluster F*ck'.
I do not have personal knowledge or a Degree in Middle Eastern Studies- but I do in Sociology and Anthropology. I do Not except the claim of Ignorance or even Misguidance on the Part of the President or any others involved. If we had not heard the Millenia of Demands to get out of the region before - We heard it loud & Clear in the '70's- Iran Hostage Crisis.As musch as I despise the 'Royals' of their Region pulling the Strings of Our Gov't- So must have They.9/11 was not an attack on AmericaNs it was an attack on those who refuse to reliquish power and control who had infiltrated their country- The MIC.
The Bush Regime IS the Oil industry who has not only tampered with their way of life - but has placed Ours and US in Jeopardy.We Told them to get out of the Region Then - bu tthey have refused. WE demanded Alternative energy sources and they have refused.WE hav eNow told them we want OUR kids Home- they have refused.
Rep Kucinich has Once again Attempted to bring forth Articles of Impeachment against this Oil Regime and Most likely the 'Democratic' controlled congress will Refuse to follow through. They fear a negativ eeffect in the Nov.elections- They are correct...As a Life Long Dem I will vote Out as many Dems (and of course Repugs) as Possible. The Only Dem at this Point who may still have my Vote Is Sen Obama.But if he Fails to acknowledge and lend his voice to this cause - I will Not continue to support his Run for the WH. We are Not looking to be lead by the nose any further- We are looking for REAL Public Servants who have the Balls to do what is Right and Necessary to end this Oil Regimes death grip on our nation.
this is of National Importance- This is Our Priority- above all others.If we fail to hold these national Traitors responsible for the crimes they have committted then all else is lost. We will have been Defeated, the 'Great Experiment' has Failed.We will no longer be Beacons to the World community for Freedom and Justice- we will be complicte it's those Ideals Demise.
This is Not a Red or Blue Issue- it is an American issue.WE have Been Betrayed, We have been Undermined. They have enjoyed OUR ancestors Blood Sweat and Tears, shackled and Gagged US, wiped their asses with Our Constitution (et al) and Have lead our children to the Auction Block. If these actions over the last few decades does not constitute Treason, and Crimes against Humanity (Blood for Oil) then such Crimes do not exist, And All Is Lost for Humankind

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» RE: Complicit Congress Posted by: Sushi
» RE: Complicit Congress Posted by: Lauren
It's not the same as VietNam, but similar
Posted by: Last Chance on Jun 11, 2008 5:01 AM   
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As I understand it, there is no coordinated resistance movement in Iraq like there was in VietNam, instead a loose agglomeration of factions that turn against each other as often as against U.S. forces. So, perhaps there are even more cases where American soldiers cannot identify who is a terrorist and who is a terrified civilian -- and that frustration must inevitably lead to despair and any soldier's tragic deal with the devil to "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out!" And I'm sure that is one of the contributing factors in so many suicides, the certain knowledge of having committed war crimes.

So, what are the officer's responsibility. To what extent are they privately encouraging snap decisions to always opt on the side of survival when confronted with uncertain circumstances, like when it cannot be known who is actually inside a building in the vicinity of a recent attack on American soldiers. No answer to a challenge? Blow 'em away, even if it turns out a woman and her children were cowering in terror too paralyzed with fear to answer.

Dilemmas like that are always present in such a war as Iraq, indeed in any war at all. Civillians are just as much at risk as the guerilla fighters operating in their midst -- another profound reason among others why U.S forces should never have invaded in the first place!

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» Put on your Aluminum Foil Hat Posted by: robbie.seal
Excellent piece, I'm blogging it
Posted by: davesilvan on Jun 11, 2008 6:02 AM   
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I have what I believe is an excellent letter I'm going to be writing to my (Philly) Metro, one of a number of free newspapers that print in major cities around the world, including Philly, Boston, and some west coast city i forget the name of, and maybe 2 dozen other countries with at least 1 city.

I haven't even read this article yet, the title and picture alone speak volumes. I'll try to remember to post links later after I publish my much shorter piece, plus I will invariably need to use more than 100 words (the paper's recommendation, tho they're printed my letter before @154 or 147 or something). Actually if any of you use myspace you're welcome to subscribe to my blog, myspace.com/sexg0d (i always feel the need to add 'i promise, it's not what you think') Yes that's a zero not an o, not a capital O.

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War on Terror a hoax, fueled by False Flag terror
Posted by: securacom-wtc on Jun 11, 2008 6:18 AM   
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Almost every war, including the Iraq War, started with False Flag Terror

Free Documentary on www.video.google.com 'One Nation Under Siege'(1.4hrs). Through the research and personal testimony of over a dozen internationally distinguished authors, journalists, doctors, and military experts (Major General Albert Stubblebine) you will understand the massive and ceaseless control projected onto an unsuspecting populace by a government that may have finally crossed the line from a representative republic to a fascist empire. From the USA PATRIOT Act and the blatant disregard for the Bill of Rights to the outright tracking of every human being on the planet earth, you will be stunned by what U.S. government documents describe for the future of America. http://www.undersiegemovie.com/
USA’s Constitution and currency are being destroyed from within. How? Videos free on www.video.google.com 1) America: Freedom to Fascism, 2 hrs; 2)911 Justice, 18min; 3) The Clinton Chronicles, 1.7 hrs; 4) Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement, 2 hrs, 5) Terrorstorm: A History of False Flag Terror, 2 hrs 6) 911 Mysteries, 2 hrs; 7)The Creature from Jekyll Island, 1hr; 8)Orwell Rolls in His Grave, 2hrs; 9) The War on Democracy, 1.5 hrs; 10) The Energy Non-Crisis, 1 hr; 11)Iraq for Sale 1.2 hr; 12) Zeitgeist, 2 hrs; 13)Ring of Power, 2.5 hrs; 14)Bush link to JFK, 1.5 hrs; 15) The Century of the Self, 4 hrs; 16) Loose Change (2nd ed & Final cut) 2hrs each; 17)John Pilger: The New Rulers of the World; 18) The Money Masters: How International Bankers Gained Control of America, 3.5 hrs 19) Barack Obama CFR info 20) Global Warming or Global Governance 21) The Great Global Warming Swindle 22) Mercury, Autism and The Global Vaccine Agenda 23) The CIA, Mind Control and Satanism 24)George Hunt: UN UNCED Earth Summit 1992 (Population Reduction) 25) End of NAtions - EU Takeover 26) Washington, You're Fired 27) Blackwater: America's Private Army 28) Esoteric Agenda 29) Fiat Empire: Why the Federal Reserve Violates the U.S. COnstitution 30) The Revolution Will not be Televised [USA overthrow of Hugo Chavez] 31) One Nation Under Siege 32)Breaking The Silence - Truth and Lies in the War on Terror, by John Pilger(and all his documentaries) 33)Beyond Treason 1.5hrs

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nothing's wrong
Posted by: sre on Jun 11, 2008 6:21 AM   
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Go back to sleep children. Daddy Bush will take care of you.

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Well? What else did you expect as long as you allowed wars for oil while killing hemp, solar, wind ?
Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 11, 2008 6:29 AM   
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The best form of defense is offense. That said, the Left has yet to lift its fingers let alone make it a higher priority to put forth initiatives to get America and even the global economy off oil. Thankfully, most of the same countries backing off Iraq are going solar to say the least. A fellow Christian who has learned from other religions, money and oil do not entice me. You can call me a pest but this pest is IMMUNE to the bait. Are you? If so, let's get millions to stand up for going truly green. Let's shut down the phoney war on drugs, corporate welfare, government subsidization of fossil fuels and nuclear, bloating military budgets which serve no purpose, etc ... Let's concentrate on getting the pols to divert the oversubsidization of fossil fuels and nuclear bs to solar, wind, better biofuels such as hemp, concentrate on successfully raising the CAFE standards, and make public transportation more accessible and affordable. Add it all up and we can defeat the war machine. Otherwise, you can go back and enjoy the fast food crap and media trash while the war machine keeps drowning America into oblivion. The choice is yours.

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OK now what?
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Jun 11, 2008 7:28 AM   
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OK, this is something we have known for a LONG time. the American Sheeple were feed yet another lie and rolled with it. Now, WHAT are we going to do about it? I hear talk of impeachment. Will it happen? Doubtful. The US Political system is now one big fat joke and the American Sheeple are the butt of that joke. I for one would like not only to see Dictator Bush de-throned, I would like to see him shipped to Iraq and made to ANSWER for his crimes against humanity! Wishful thinking. It'll all get swept under the rug like it always does. Business as usual.

JT
Ultimate Anonymity

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dick
Posted by: rtmyth on Jun 11, 2008 7:29 AM   
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Everything is going according to the wishes and plans of the power elite, who are in charge here and thrive on and profit from continuous war.. The masses have no power or influence. There is no distinction between the so-called political partys; they are all part of the power elite. Elections will not change our policies; only a mass protest can do it.

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» RE: dick Posted by: Lauren
THE "CORPORATE" MEDIA
Posted by: fg on Jun 11, 2008 7:36 AM   
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I haven't heard a peep about Kucinich's impeachment move since it happened--even on PBS. It's as if it didn't happen.

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» Was the place empty? Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Was the place empty? Posted by: Lauren
» Bee Kickers... Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Bee Kickers... Posted by: Lauren
» And they did it again... Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: THE "CORPORATE" MEDIA Posted by: badkitty
» RE: THE "CORPORATE" MEDIA Posted by: Lauren
» RE: THE "CORPORATE" MEDIA Posted by: helenwheels
rn
Posted by: mnatra on Jun 11, 2008 8:10 AM   
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Tom you wrote a great article good information for the uninformed.The only difference is that America is and has been a terrorist state for over 50 years. It has no reputation to uphold. So whats another War?
The whole world needs to gang up on America now!!!!!!!!

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» The Whole World Would Suck Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: The Whole World Would Suck Posted by: DesertStone
» RE: rn Posted by: Lauren
» RE: rn Posted by: leafsong1
None of this is new
Posted by: rockpicker on Jun 11, 2008 9:03 AM   
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but Hedges' writing is exceptional.

Too bad only a small minority of Americans will read it.

Amy Goodman interviewed Chris on yesterday's show. The writing was much more powerful than the live presentation.

Thanks to AlterNet for bringing us this piece.

Now, do yourselves another favor. Give us an honest review of David Ray Griffin's new book,

"9/11 Contradictions
An Open Letter to Congress and the Press"

A blurb from the jacket:

"David Ray Griffin, writing specifically for members of Congress and the media, has presented the often incredible but true details of 25 major contradictions in the Bush administration's accounts of 9/11. This book, based on careful research but written in a fast-moving, readable style, blows apart the notion that The 9/11 Commission Report presents an accurate account of what happened on September 11. It makes crystal clear the need for a new investigation."
-- Bill Christison, former senior CIA official


Just a simple, honest review of the book.

Is that too much to ask?

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» RE: None of this is new Posted by: EncinoM
The bloody hands of George W. Bush
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 11, 2008 9:19 AM   
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On April 7, 2003, under standing orders from President Bush, a B1 bomber carried out a decapitation strike on a Baghdad restaurant where Saddam Hussein was eating a late lunch. Reportedly.

Shortly after the mission began, the Ace of Spades, suspecting he had been betrayed by someone on his staff, slipped out of the al-Sa’ah restaurant’s backdoor and fled the scene.

Ten minutes later, four 2,000-pound bunker busters dropped by the diverted bomber blew the suburban eatery to bits along with cooks, waiters, bus boys, customers, cashier, pedestrians passing by and the occupants of three nearby homes.

Fourteen civilians died in that Baghdad neighborhood on April 7, people who lost their lives simply for being there, including two young children. Yet back in the United States, few Americans protested the barbaric aspect of the B1 mission, not on TV or in the press anyway. Quite the contrary, there was glorification of Bush’s decision to “take out Saddam,” as so many in his administration enjoyed saying.
Well, that’s not how I felt.

Because I know something about the misery of warfare, the B1 mission horrified me. I was also outraged at Bush for allowing such an atrocity to happen. When a president of the United States decides to preemptively strike another country for the first time in American history with massive air power, then, by God, he had better get it right. And that doesn’t mean killing innocent human beings because he has a grudge against their leader.

Republicans will retort, “We killed millions of civilians in World War Two, thousands at a time.” True, but there’s a difference. A humungous one. We didn’t start the hostilities. Germany and Japan did.

The president claims to be a born-again Christian who got a second chance at life when he turned 40. If that’s the case and not just hypocritical bullshit for public consumption, then he’d better get down on his knees and beg forgiveness from Jesus for killing those poor people on April 7. Because if George W. doesn’t show contrition, which I haven’t seen or heard expressed so far, he may end up in the eternal down-under sharing a table with Saddam and his sons in a barbecue joint called “Hell.”

To excuse our cowboy commander-in-chief, Republicans will argue he didn’t give orders to the B1 crew; someone else did. But that reason won’t wash, either. As our nation’s top military leader who authorized the decapitation strike, he has blood on his hands just like Osama bin Laden.

Here’s the nexus in a nutshell. For the loved ones of 9/11 victims, it’s heart-wrenching to hear but must be said. If you believe as I do that human lives are precious, especially those of children who deserve an opportunity to grow up and have kids of their own, then we must face the truth no matter how painful. Other than motivation, the only difference between a B1 dropping bombs on a civilian restaurant from 30,000 feet and someone flying a jetliner into an office building is the number of people that die.

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Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, ARDENT Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com -- the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.

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Western myths
Posted by: zeofredo on Jun 11, 2008 9:21 AM   
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I've talked to dozens of people, strangers, friends... former friends... about their feelings concerning this war. Even if we can agree that it is improper, it is interesting to find that quite a lot of people are able to justify it nevertheless as a prerogative of Western power, which is still the best option in the global arena for ideas and human principles. Never mind that they are in complete denial of its transgressions... the acts of war and domination which are perpetuated by Westerners are seen as regrettable but essential tactics of advancement.

It is chilling for me to find that many well-educated, 'intelligent' people entertain these self-aggrandizing notions in complete ignorance that other forms of behaviour and belief exist in the world. Without countering this reality, we in the West are bound up together in a terribly delusional experience of righteousness.

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NEWS FLASH: Pakistan fury over U.S. 'hot pursuit' attack
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 11, 2008 9:50 AM   
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- June 11, 2008.

Pakistan has expressed outrage at a U.S. airstrike in a disputed region along the Afghan border that it says killed 11 of its forces who were cooperating with the U.S.-led war on terror.

A Pakistani soldier patrols the mountain areas of the Pakistan and Afghanistan border in Mohmand.

The U.S. military said it carried out an airstrike and fired against "anti-Afghan forces" shortly after they attacked coalition forces in Afghanistan's Konar province on Tuesday. The military statement did not say where the airstrike occurred, but stressed that coalition ground forces did not cross into Pakistan.

A U.S. official with knowledge of the reports told CNN that Tuesday's airstrike targeted suspected militants who had fled into Pakistan after conducting an ambush on the Afghan side of the border.

The official said Pakistani military officials worked with the U.S. forces to track the militants as they fled across the border into Pakistan. He said the mission was permitted under the rules of engagement which allow "hot pursuit" across the border of suspected militants when locations are verified.

But Pakistan's military -- which described the airstrike as a "completely unprovoked and cowardly act" -- had a much different account of what happened.

The top spokesman for Pakistan army's Gen. Athar Abbas told CNN that the airstrike happened after U.S. forces were called in by Afghan troops who had engaged in a border clash with Taliban forces.

The Taliban forces fired on the Afghan troops as they tried to set up a checkpoint in a disputed area along the Afghan-Pakistan border, Abbas said.

The Afghan troops then called for help from the U.S.-led coalition forces, which carried out an airstrike on positions where Pakistani frontier corps forces were stationed, Abbas said.

Muhammad Amir Rana with the Institute of Peace said NATO troops also came to the area to assist Afghan soldiers.

Abbas said the airstrike killed 11 Pakistani forces, including a high-ranking major, and wounded seven others, he said.

Pakistan's military and Foreign Ministry have issued an official protest with the Tripartite Commission -- a group made up of senior military and diplomatic representatives from Afghanistan, Pakistan and the United States -- condemning the attack, Abbas said.

A Pakistani military statement said the strike "hit at the very basis of cooperation and sacrifice with which Pakistani soldiers are supporting the coalition in war against terror."

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Thanks. This is why we protested.
Posted by: mcubed on Jun 11, 2008 11:16 AM   
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Great Article.
It needs to be repeated over and over to drown out all the propoganda. How horrible that we don't seem to be able to learn from history, and repeat these atrocities with each generation. Iraqis and veterans of this war, their families, and their children are stuck dealing with this mess. The rest of us need to take responsibility for our action as a nation, and work to change this destructive pattern.

There were veterans from WWII, the Korean War, the Cold War, Vietnam, and Gulf War One at every protest I attended both before and after the invasion. Their stories should have been given greater weight in the media build up to war, but they were not.

Next time we need to listen to the veterans who are able and willing to speak honestly.

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One never has to read all of these, anymore . . .
Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on Jun 11, 2008 11:43 AM   
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Two paragraphs - just the title, usually - tells you what its all about. The guy - or, even worse, girl - literally doesn't know what he's talking about. If he did, had he ever been in a real-life situation similar to one like the family against a Browing .50, he'd know the reason that Wild Bill Hickok once shot his best friend when the friend ran up behind him during a gunfight.

I'm a bodyguard. As my client and I approach a Wal-Mart one day, a shot is fired somewhere. Scanning the crowd around, I see a guy raising a handgun, muzzle toward my client and me. I have literally a split second to decide - that means take in all the circumstances, consider, shoot or don't shoot. I decide to shoot (I'm that fast), and I do. The guy with the gun goes down, struck and killed instantly by a .45 calibre slug hit on the upper lip.

I feel good (still alive, not wounded) - until I realize that my bullet went through the guy's head and killed the baby in the arms of a woman walking behind him.

Who's at fault? I - we - have to leave that up to guys (I guess) like Chris Hedges. And George W. Bush, Nancy Pelosi, and the like. They have all the answers where moral right and wrong are concerned.

Me? I'll be all right. I made up my mind before I started packing a piece that the guy who forces me to shoot is at fault for what happens. I'll be all right because I don't listen to all the hand-wringers who ring their hands for a political audience. I'll be all right because I've arranged my life in such a way that I can say what I want completely without fear of what the politically correct people think - there's not a damned thing meaningful anyone can do about it.

It was always that way. Always until we came to be ruled by the gossip and bimbo-babble of effeminacy. Men, the old-fashioned, before-"one-parent families"-and-the-rest-of-the-hallmarks-of-feminism kind, used to make up their minds, do what had to be done, and never look back.

No more - now we have to talk about it. Girls do that.

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