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War on Iraq

"Women Are Being Beheaded for Taking Their Veil Off": Honor Killings On Rise in Iraq

By Terri Judd, Independent UK. Posted April 30, 2008.


In Basra alone, police acknowledge that 15 women a month are murdered for breaching Islamic dress codes. Others say the number is higher.
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At first glance Shawbo Ali Rauf appears to be slumbering on the grass, her pale brown curls framing her face, her summer skirt spread about her. But the awkward position of her limbs and the splattered blood reveal the true horror of the scene.

The 19-year-old Iraqi was, according to her father, murdered by her own in-laws, who took her to a picnic area in Dokan and shot her seven times. Her crime was to have an unknown number on her mobile phone. Her "honor killing" is just one in a grotesque series emerging from Iraq, where activists speak of a "genocide" against women in the name of religion.

In the latest such case, it was reported yesterday that a 17-year-old girl, Rand Abdel-Qader, was stabbed to death last month by her father for becoming infatuated with a British soldier serving in southern Iraq.

In Basra alone, police acknowledge that 15 women a month are murdered for breaching Islamic dress codes. Campaigners insist it is a conservative figure.

Violence against women is rampant, rising every day with the power of the militias. Beheadings, rapes, beatings, suicides through self-immolation, genital mutilation, trafficking and child abuse masquerading as marriage of girls as young as nine are all on the increase.

Du'a Khalil Aswad, 17, from Nineveh, was executed by stoning in front of mob of 2,000 men for falling in love with a boy outside her Yazidi tribe. Mobile phone images of her broken body transmitted on the internet led to sectarian violence, international outrage and calls for reform. Her father, Khalil Aswad, speaking one year after her death in April last year, has revealed that none of those responsible had been prosecuted and his family remained "outcasts" in their own tribe.

"My daughter did nothing wrong," he said. "She fell in love with a Muslim and there is nothing wrong with that. I couldn't protect her because I got threats from my brother, the whole tribe. They insisted they were gong to kill us all, not only Du'a, if she was not killed. She was mutilated, her body dumped like rubbish.

"I want those who committed this act to be punished but so far they have not, they are free. Honor killing is murder. This is a barbaric act."

Despite the outrage, recent calls by the Kurdish MP Narmin Osman to outlaw honour killings have been blocked by fundamentalists. "Honor killings are not actually a crime in the eyes of the government," said Houzan Mahmoud, who has had a fatwa on her head since raising a petition against the introduction of sharia law in Kurdistan. "If before there was one dictator persecuting people, now almost everyone is persecuting women.

"In the past five years it is has got [much] worse. It is difficult to described how terrible it is, how badly we have been pushed back to the dark ages. Women are being beheaded for taking their veil off. Self immolation is rising -- women are left with no choice. There is no government body or institution to provide any sort of support. Sharia law is being used to underpin government rule, denying women their most basic human rights."

In August last year, the body of 11-year-old Sara Jaffar Nimat was found in Khanaqin, Kurdistan, after she had been stoned and burnt to death. Earlier this month, two brothers and a sister were kidnapped from their home near Kirkuk by gunmen in police uniforms. The brothers were beaten to death and the woman left in a critical condition after being informed that she must obey the rules of an "Islamic state". One week ago, a journalist, Begard Huseein, was murdered in her home in Arbil, northern Iraq. Her husband, Mohammed Mustafa, stabbed her because she was in love with another man, according to local reports.

The stoning death of Ms. Aswad led to the establishment of an Internal Ministry unit in Kurdistan to combat violence against women. It reported that last year in Sulaymaniyah, a city of 1 million people, there were 407 reported offences, beheadings, beatings, deaths through "family problems", and threats of honor killings. Rape is not included as most women are too fearful to report it for fear of retribution. Nevertheless, police in Karbala recently revealed 25 reports of rape.

The new Iraqi constitution, according to Mrs. Mahmoud, is a mass of confusing contradictions. While it states that men and women are equal under law it also decrees that sharia law -- which considers one male witness worth two females -- must be observed. The days when women could hold down key jobs or enjoy any freedom of movement are long gone. The fundamentalists have sent out too many chilling messages. In Mosul two years ago, eight women were beheaded in a terror campaign.

"It was really, really horrifying," said Mrs. Mahmoud. "Honor killings and murder are widespread. Thousands [of people] … have become victims of murder, violence and rape -- all backed by laws, tribal customs and religious rules. We urge the international community, the government to condemn this barbaric practice, and help the women of Iraq."

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Islamic Values
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Apr 30, 2008 12:36 AM   
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While we should not condone discrimination, violence or bigotry toward Muslims, and should not assume that all hold the same beliefs on every issue, we should also recognize that the Islamic world is rife with violence against women, forced marriage of very young girls to older men, incest, violence, vengeance, intolerance and draconian penalties for trivial offenses. Of course they always trot out a presentable imam who selectively quotes some reassuring surahs, but the Koran, like the Bible, is full of nasty stuff. However, in the Muslim world the religion as actually practiced is far more brutal, sexist and intolerant than any other. Koranic values are incompatible with democracy and modern notions of human rights.

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Bushed!
Posted by: colinmeister on Apr 30, 2008 3:42 AM   
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So the U.S. administration find a country in the middle east where women are free to choose pretty much what they want to wear, and work in professional jobs. They then go to that country and hang its leaders, unleashing a wave of fundamentalist moslem violence upon the citizens of that country.

Watch out, other countries in the world, you might be the next candidates for "Regime change" or "Democracy".

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» Are you kidding? Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Are you kidding? Posted by: MplsVala
» Learn Arabic Culture Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Are you kidding? Posted by: Scientz
» Learn more about Arabic Culture Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Are you kidding? Posted by: jenlight
» Where do you guys come from? Posted by: robbie.seal
» I was there. Posted by: colinmeister
» 2004-2005, 2007 and soon again Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Are you kidding? Posted by: maha123
» Nice revisionist history lesson. Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Are you kidding? Posted by: radagast_23
» See "Revisionist" post Posted by: robbie.seal
» RE: Bushed! Posted by: madsmama
» RE: Bushed! Posted by: jono1028
» RE: Rape rooms etc. Posted by: fearn
The Main Reason I no Longer follow any "Oganized Religion"
Posted by: Purple Girl on Apr 30, 2008 5:31 AM   
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This is the blanant example how the 'Religions' of men have Ruined the Word of 'god'
As a 'Atheist' (more a spiritual Steward) I have times I hope the Fanatics are Right about Judgement Day and I hope it is coming soon. My outrage of such Unholy Attacks against other 'Stewards' screams for Revenge by that which they have used to justify their mortal vile ways. Hypocritical- Granted. but I only wish for the justice they deserve for Bastardizing and contaminating the Ideals of which Faith is based. The have the audacity to judge that which their Own Maker Created, failing to acknowledge the baisc Rules to promote their own Egomania, their ouwn supremacy.Of course if this vile Doctrines are correct - the 2nd coming, the'Savior', the Messiah' will most likely be more satanic then divine

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Not just Islam
Posted by: bdcroan on Apr 30, 2008 6:05 AM   
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All monotheistic religions typically denigrate women. Just look at the recent debacle in the US with the radical mormons raping children with "god's blessing". We justify killing and torturing people because God is on our side (but are we on his?).

The best cultures developed around religions that had gods and goddesses where women were given equal status in the ethereal world.

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Nice piece
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Apr 30, 2008 6:32 AM   
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I am glad to see a piece attacking another major religion besides Christianity. The whole notion that Islam is a religion of peace is pure bullshit. The only peaceful Muslims are the ones who reject the fundamentals of their religion. I don't buy any of that multiculturalist bullshit that says we should be tolerant of the fundamentalist wackos. I'll tolerate the "moderates" who only half-ass believe what they are taught but not the fundies. If someone actually believes everything that is in that book of theirs they should be locked up.

It is the same concept with Christianity. The only reasonably sane ones are the ones who reject the fundamentals found in their sacred book. If not for a majority of half-assed Christians running around I would have been publicly stoned a long time ago.

Just wait until I find something about Jainism to get worked up over. You here that Jainists? I'm coming for YOU!

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» RE: Nice piece Posted by: Ruby
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» RE: Nice piece Posted by: Ruby
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» RE: Nice piece Posted by: warriornation
» I am intolerant Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» RE: Nice piece Posted by: phonebook
Iraq in meltdown...
Posted by: brightideas on Apr 30, 2008 6:36 AM   
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The society is in meltdown - people get crazy. I don't think Islam is to blame, I think the US invasion and the failure to stabilize the country is to blame...

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» Islam not to blame? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» Why apologize for this brutal religion? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» RE: Islam not to blame? Posted by: Scientz
» RE: Islam not to blame? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» RE: Islam not to blame? Posted by: Scientz
» RE: Islam not to blame? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» Progress=secular government. Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» pfft! 'ye are gods' Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
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» RE: pfft! 'ye are gods' Posted by: Xynyx
» well said Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» pfft! "I am a republican" Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» I'm done. Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» RE: Islam not to blame? Posted by: liberalibrarian
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» RE: Islam not to blame? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» RE: Islam not to blame? Posted by: Crazy H
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» no one is explaining it away Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» RE: Iraq in meltdown... Posted by: jimmiekeyes
» saudi arabia--our ally Posted by: e rice
Bush Murdered These Women
Posted by: vkobaya on Apr 30, 2008 7:36 AM   
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Who murdered 1.3 million innocent civilians, 4,040 American soldiers, crippled and maimed another 20-40,000 more American soldiers, and forced another 20,000 American soldiers to commit suicide? Who has embezzled trillions of dollars from the American Treasury? Who lied us into this illegal, criminal war? 80% of America opposes Bush's crimes and illegal war. Would any of these tragedies have happened if Bush had never illegally stolen two elections through voter fraud? Who is the world's leading violent, blood-thristy, evil terrorist, Bush or bin Laden?

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» RE: Incorrect. Posted by: fearn
» RE: Incorrect. Posted by: Illiteratilumen
Interesting that no one here seems to have known, isn't it?
Posted by: Spock on Apr 30, 2008 8:02 AM   
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Two or three days ago, another survey reveals the staggering stupidity of the U.S. public. Now we have the REVELATION of Islamic "honor killings." Whew! Remember the "Are You Smarter Than Your Fifth-Grader" guest who thought Europe is a country? They speak French in Budapest, etc.? Tell me ('splain dat to me Lucy) how can you have a democratic election that means anything among a people so stupid that Islamic "honor killing" is news?

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Islam is not to blame, Man is to blame
Posted by: the baron on Apr 30, 2008 8:03 AM   
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Like some of the other individuals who have posted here I am an atheist. One who has rejected the religion he was raised to believe in.

As a whole man needs religion. Why, because some of us can not accept reason. Also why Islam is not to blame, 1.) Islam is not an organized religion there si no head pope, or rabbi, or monsignor. 2.) It is a man's own values that are to come into question, not where they come from.

Let me use an example, The Crusades. Christians/Catholics from Europe came into the Middle East. They raped, killed, then raped again women. Then ate the men and women that they killed. The punch line... these people where also Christians but of the Eastern Orthodoxy.

Same religious beliefs,(excluding a pope)and one ideology is better than the other simple because of a culture clash. Man always thinks he knows what is best for his fellow man, when he himself does not even know what is best for himself.

This has nothing to do with Islam as a "barbaric" religion. Neither is it a religion of less enlightened people. Islam is simply an ideology.

The issue is that because of western interference, these people as a culture(all Arabs/Arab Nations) have not been able to create a unified cultural society that is parallel to European countries, as we recognize such things. As a people they are still attempting to find a sense of unity, and it does not help nor will it ever help if we keep sticking our nose in it.

This is about establishing our values,as well as satisfying our needs(governmentally) on a culture we as a whole know nothing about, and make ever attempt to not understand.

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» ottoman empire, anyone? Posted by: e rice
» RE: Islam is not to blame, Man is to blame Posted by: RightFromTheStart
jareilly
Posted by: jareilly on Apr 30, 2008 9:37 AM   
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I rarely see it so I don't know if anybody else has really noticed it, but at the moment, all the world's biggest conflicts are between reactionaries, right-wingers, medieval absolutists, conservatives and imperial empire builders. As an armed presence, the Left is nowhere in sight, with the possible exception of Nepal. Here's my point: The world's major bloody catastrophes are between various armed factions of the Right (Islamic fundamentalists are unapologetic right wing totalitarians). These conflicts and their horrific fall-out, such as honor killings, are the predictable endpoint of reactionary conservative politics.

Honor killings, plus resource plundering, collapsed markets, food riots and intractable wars between clans, tribes, sects and empires - this is the world right wing politics has brought us. Does that excuse the thugs who perpetrate these vicious killings? Absolutely not! But I think it goes a long way towards explaining them. Right wing reactionary elites from local warlords to global financial overlords thrive in this kind of environment.

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» RE: jareilly Posted by: Dee1276
3500 BC
Posted by: Knobby on Apr 30, 2008 10:11 AM   
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religious codes and laws alive and active in 2008.. My how far we have progress as humans...

The whole human society in this world is 1 sick puppy...

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» RE: 3500 BC Posted by: donl51
Islam sucks. Of course so do Judaism, Christianity, Mormonism, etc.
Posted by: thekidde on Apr 30, 2008 12:01 PM   
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It's just that Islam sucks more right now than the others because the countries of the Middle East are backward, fanatical numbnuts. Fuck 'em all, get out of Iraq, get the rest of the world to stop buying their oil (let 'em drink it), cut off all imports from China to help them get real.

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» RE: America sucks the most Posted by: DesertStone
» RE: americans suck Posted by: DesertStone
More unintended consequences
Posted by: Reader11722 on Apr 30, 2008 12:09 PM   
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Iraq has become more fundementalist since we attacked it. Another tragedy from these zionist wars. Only Israel benefits from these endless Middle East wars. Iraq is the beginning. As we commit war-crimes in Baghdad, the US gov't commits treason at home by opening mail, eliminating habeas corpus, using the judiciary to steal private lands, banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon and Wikipedia, conducting warrantless wiretaps and engaging in illegal wars on behalf of AIPAC's 'money-men'. Soon, another US false-flag operation will occur (sinking of an Aircraft Carrier by Mossad) and the US will invade Iran.. Then we'll invade Syria, then Saudi Arabia, then Lebanon (again) then ....

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Extremism imported by the invaders
Posted by: maha123 on Apr 30, 2008 12:21 PM   
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MSM won't tell you what it was like before Iraq was invaded, the dramatic change that has taken place, the Saudi wahhabi, Hizb a Tahrir and the rest of the Satanist pretend muslims brought in by the US/UK. If you grew up there as I did you would not deny that women DID have the freedom to choose to dress (in western dress), to education, to work, to marriage, and to religion. There have been a flood of extremist psycho maniacs brought in by the invaders to destroy progress and take people back to the dark ages. For many decades the west has funded extremism in ME and north Africa, the muslim brotherhood, as well as home grown in Britain, in order to destroy Islam and the same goes for other religions too. It is not difficult to brainwash ignorant people into extremism so that a nation destroys itself from within. Nearly all my female relatives were professional doctors, engineers, scientists, lawyers, teachers, architects, etc. To deny the history of Iraq with silly snide comments is a fools game, for the war is as much on you as on them.

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» RE: don't forget the Taliban Posted by: DesertStone
All Religions are BAD!
Posted by: johnbradleycopeland on Apr 30, 2008 12:38 PM   
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All Religions are crazy! Why people "believe" is beyond me! Most people I know have been brainwashed since childhood to believe one crazy religion or another. Much of the worlds problems are created by religions! STOP THE INSANITY! NO MORE TAX FREE!

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Sadly, not surprised
Posted by: ndonaghue on Apr 30, 2008 12:41 PM   
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At the tragic content of this article, another example of destructive forces rushing in to fill the void left by the US invasion of Iraq. After reading comment after comment attacking Islam, I feel the need to point out that continued ignorance and attack mainstream Islam isn't helping how the world views the US or, more importantly, the poor women in Iraq and around the world being killed for the sake of "honor".

Emailing your local representative with your concerns or volunteering to raise awareness of the issue would be of more help.

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More errands and yard work for the men!
Posted by: carbon-based on Apr 30, 2008 12:58 PM   
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What a wonderful part of the world. It seems like the men want to retain their culture while women bear the brunt of crazy laws and customs. Don't dress right, off with your head.. having coffee with a man not your husband.. she gets stoned! Attend a ball game - lashes!

Maybe war is a repreive for the women..gets the men out of the house for the day!

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» War is no reprieve for women Posted by: Cathyblj
What IS a wife?
Posted by: luzmejor on Apr 30, 2008 3:08 PM   
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In many countries, women who marry are slaves.
Men actually can sell their sisters and other female relatives. Sometimes they have to pay the husbands' family a dowry to marry her. If they run out of money, she must be killed so they can get another slave. That still happens in some areas of India.

Perhaps we should outlaw religious forms of marriage as having underlying criminal intent and institute only equal marriages by law, to cure these constant crimes against human beings.

Violators would be tried and have their crimes of murder punished.

History is replete wiith discrimination and crimes against females at every age. The British were able to get rid of centuries of the Chinese practice of footbinding mutilation only by constant vigilance.

We will need to do the same to get rid of such evils in our time.

And lest we forget, these horrors occur even in our own societies because of defective morals. Sometimes a "family" can be the worst place to raise a child.

I hope nobody has forgotten the constant kidnaps, rapes and murders of American girls, even by their peers in the military!

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Joshua Holland
Posted by: dumdumboy on Apr 30, 2008 3:10 PM   
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Have you read this article?

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» RE: Joshua Holland Posted by: Pale_Green_Pants
xtiml
Posted by: xtiml on Apr 30, 2008 3:15 PM   
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i think this is a big lie just to squeeze more out of emotional amelikans. we do not belong there , they are running this country in the ground these what ever you want to call them in washington .

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My body, my property, my choice
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Apr 30, 2008 5:16 PM   
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When it comes down to it, it really is that simple.

Freedom of association, which is what many of these women are "guilty" of exercising falls under this right.

As does many of the Amendments to the Constitution and in the Bill of Rights.

It also applies in all the consensual crime laws on the books.


When is humanity as a whole going to realize the nature of so many of the specific rights we protect, that they all originate from 'my body, my property, my choice'.

When will we as a whole come to respect this right and forbid the use of violence against others or their property without their consent?

The west is somewhat better in respecting this right but it still sends people to jail for life for growing illegal plants.


It's sad to say but when I look around I see the Planet of the Apes.

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thanks george, all religions not innocent
Posted by: alan1111 on Apr 30, 2008 7:04 PM   
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the truest words writen here today.
if ever a cabal of people should be brought before the world and tried for their crimes it is this entire administration. each and every one.
are these muslim laws/rules insane and barbaric? Absolutey, but so were/are all of the alleged "good" god fearing pedophile chistians and palestinian enslaving jews of today.
don't forget, all of these so called learned men of the cloth in the catholic church who have now been put in place to oversee scandals with lofty positions and titles bedecked in red were at one time common priests themselves and if you think they did not play hide the winnie back then, Ha.
the jews themselves made and created hammas like you would a cake from scratch with nothing but raw ingredients and now they are reaping what they have sewn.
muslims i know nothing about but what i hear/read/see and just as those above all have a radical edge. the saddest part of the article is that the women themselves do not fight back in any way. i always remember my mother telling my father when he was felling his oats that eventualy he would "have to go to sleep". then she would just leave the room.
maybe, these women should wait until these bastards also go to sleep...............

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cat
Posted by: 1in5 on Apr 30, 2008 9:55 PM   
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I would like to sponsor an effort to send weapons to the women of Iraq. If Iraqi women must die let them go proudly fighting their oppressors. They could eventually take out enough of those pigs to win control.

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» I concur Posted by: radagast_23
not just in the Middle east
Posted by: krishnadevaraya on May 1, 2008 8:00 AM   
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The treatment of women in a degrading manner is not just limited to the Islamic countries in the middle East, but also amongst the Islamic majority areas in other parts of the world.

Places like Kashmir (india) and Bangladesh have Islamic majority. But both these places have strong influence of liberal Hindu culture because of neighboring India, which is a Hindu country.

Inspite of that, Muslim women are forced to cover themselves from head to toe and persecuted for not doing so.

Check out these interesting online exhibitions on the history of these places.

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» RE: not just in the Middle east Posted by: LeslieGem
Ditto!
Posted by: Ipsi Dixit on May 1, 2008 8:16 AM   
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Exactly! If one were to ask how many homosexuals, paedophiles or people of other, alternative sexual orientations were lynched, threatened with lynching or other violence, or overt - often government sponsored - discrimination, would people in the non-western world attribute these things to a westerners concept of 'honour'?
In western countries popular opinion places constraints on how its people behave; why should it be any different elsewere?
It's not really a question of honour but of upholding moral standard maintaining public decency.

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Religion is a gateway drug
Posted by: cyr3n on May 1, 2008 11:01 AM   
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Take for instance a religion we shall call "Fubarism" (made up of several divisive ideologies from popular and not-so-popular religions)

Fubarism states that:
- if you're not a Fubar, you cant go to heaven
- non-fubars dont have a soul
- if you're a Fubar man, your word is worth the word of 2 women, or 3.1415926535 brown people.
- women dont really have souls either, because they dont have penises, and penises hold souls. But they acquire a 'soul' through holy matrimony to a righteous Fubar man.
- only Fubars have the right to vote or own any property. Any non-fubar is just squatting on land that must be liberated from their heathen asses.
- There is only one Fubar God. Anyone else is worshipping demons.
- If a Fubar decides to leave Fubarism, they're now a heathen and should be stoned to death.


Basically any religion that grants a higher status to their followers over another group of people (by sex, creed, handicap, or occupation), is setting itself up for justifying genocide. Since murdering innocents is evil, no matter how you slice it.. religion encourages people to have a neurotic US vs THEM perspective, a gateway ideology to homicide.

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I absolutely disagree
Posted by: radagast_23 on May 1, 2008 12:21 PM   
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Fundamentalism - of any sort and based on any religion - is an abomination. Yes, the West pursues certain courses based solely on religious doctrine from CERTAIN churches, and they SHOULD NOT. It's wrong for us -- and it is wrong for Muslims, in the Mideast or anywhere else.

PERIOD.

Regards,

Reynolds

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AMERIKKKA BEHEADS ITS WOMEN WITH GODLY IGNORANCE
Posted by: Malcus Garvey on May 1, 2008 12:54 PM   
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It may seem inhumane and senseless, but what would you rather have: "democracy" or the "Amerikkkan Way?" The AmeriKKKan Way equals whoredom, pedophilia, molestations, childhood murders and incest.
All at the taxable benefit of the political perverts and capitalism.
I'd take beheading pagan and spiritually combative women over capitalism, anyday.

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What is the main purpose of this article?
Posted by: Nasifmasad on May 1, 2008 4:55 PM   
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I've read this article carefully and I guess that it is very interesting, but it fails to highlight this serious social problem out of the anti-islamic frame. If the main objective is the immediate end of the violence against women, this issue should not be attached to any endless debate or be related to Islam. We should observe that many of the close-minded judgements will disappear when the unrest in Iraq comes to an end, and the Middle East societies can prosper when the political systems can develop the civil laws and empower the new generation for democratic citizenship.

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americans talking big as usual
Posted by: DesertStone on May 2, 2008 11:06 AM   
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American liberals such pompous self important people

You hardly care for Muslim women when you drop your bombs over Baghdad or cart their husbands off to your torture prisons.

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» it's not as if the saudis Posted by: e rice
The 60 year lie Zionist Lie.
Posted by: Paxmana1 on May 3, 2008 11:51 AM   
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It would not have been that long ago that 2 British SAS troopers were caught red handed dressed as Arabs in a car loaded with explosives .. they were apprehended shortly before they entered an Arab Street Market, oh and they carried concealed weapons.

They were detained in a cell at the rear of the local police station. Within a few hours, guess who should turn up?

A platoon of British cannon fodder in APC,s and supported with a Scorpion light tank .. and they demanded that the Iraqi,s surrender the SAS men.

Not unnaturally the Iraqi police refused .. The British Terrorist then proceeded to free the False Flag Operatives by using Israeli training tactics to release the murderers .. by that I mean they used a tank and shells against civilians and demolished the front of the police station to get to the rear where the cells were located.

I am informed that the American, British and Australian Zones of Illegal war and occupation are seeded with Israeli advisor's also known as Political Officers.

Likewise Afghanistan was invaded under false pretext .. the CIA used a false flag operation to demolish a Buddhist shrine and blamed it on the Taleban.

The Taleban had eradicated the growing of Opium poppies .. How unfortunate for Afghanistan because the poppy growing was a source of criminal funding for the CIA, MI6 and Mossad Black operations.

Since the illegal invasion, the Poppy growing has been reinstated with all the bells and whistles .. the opium is processed into Heroin or smack before it leaves Afghanistan to fund the black operations mounted by the war criminal occupying powers.

It would appear that many of those responding to this thread and the language used to defame the Islamic Faith are Zionists of the worst type i.e Christian Fundamentalists and Talmudian Jews.

The tactics of the occupying powers of Iraq and Afghanistan are the mirror image of that which the Israelis are using to genocide the Palestinians who are unfortunate to be living in a land that the Likud wants.

All of this talk about women is not worth the electrons used to denigrate Islam .. Read Layla Anwars blog if you want to know something about Islamic Women .. It is not Muslims that are beheading Muslim women .. there is only one nation in the world that practices such bestiality ..and they do it to further their Zionist agenda.

The official story from both America and Britain concerning 9/11 and the London Transport bombings is the biggest load of tripe ever consumed by an unwitting public .. better take a look at what homeland security have in mind for us all .. and look a Britain's Surveillance Society ..

Oh and take a look at what the Israelis have done to Bethlehem and The Church of the Holy Nativity. And the Femminists need to look at such matters as the deliberate killing of Rachel Corrie the Canadian Christian Peace Worker to understand the mentality of these Zio monsters.

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