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War on Iraq

How the U.S. Just Got Schooled by a 'Rag-Tag' Neighborhood Army in Iraq

By Gary Brecher, The eXile. Posted April 4, 2008.


A week ago, Bush called the offensive in Basra a "defining moment" for Iraq. Suddenly he's gotten very quiet.
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What happened in Iraq this week was a beautiful lesson in the weird laws of guerrilla warfare. Unfortunately, it was the Americans who got schooled. Even now, people at my office are saying, "We won, right? Sadr told his men to give up, right?"

Wrong. Sadr won big. Iran won even bigger. Maliki, the Iraqi Army, Petraeus and Cheney lost.

For people raised on stories of conventional war, where both sides fight all-out until one side loses and gives up, what happened in Iraq this past week makes no sense at all. Sadr's Mahdi Army humiliated the Iraq Army on all fronts. In Basra, the Army's grand offensive, code-named "The Charge of the Knights," got turned into "The Total Humiliation of the Knights," like something out of an old Monty Python skit.

Thousands of police who were supposed to be backing up the Iraqi Army either refused to fight or defected to Sadr's Mahdi Army. In Basra, the Iraqi Army was stopped dead and clearly in danger of being crushed or forced to retreat from the city. In Baghdad, Sadr's militia was rocketing the Green Zone non-stop -- not a good look for the "Surge is working" PR drive -- and driving the Iraqi Army clean out of the 2.5-million-strong Shia slum, Sadr City. And in every poor Shia neighborhood in cities and towns all over Iraq, local units of the Mahdi Army were attacking the government forces.

Then, after four days of uninterruptedly kicking Iraqi Army ass, Sadr graciously announces that he's telling his men to end their "armed appearances" on the streets. Makes no sense, right? It makes a ton of sense, but you have to stop thinking of formal battles like Gettysburg and Stalingrad and think long and slow, like a guerrilla.

If you want to know how not to think about Iraq, just start with anything ever said or imagined by Cheney or Bush. Our Commander in Chief declared a week ago when the Iraqi Army first marched into Basra, "I would say this is a defining moment in the history of a free Iraq." When the Iraqi Army fled a few days later, he suddenly got very quiet. But anybody could see how deluded the poor fucker is just by all the nonsense he managed to cram into that 15-word sentence. I mean, "the history of a free Iraq"?

But that's nothing compared to Bush's fundamentally wrong notion that there's even such a thing as a "defining moment" in an urban guerrilla war. Guerrilla wars are slow, crock-pot wars. To win this kind of war, the long war, takes patience. Trying to force a "defining moment" by military action is not just ignorant and idiotic, but risks further demoralizing your side when that moment doesn't happen, as it inevitably won't. What happens when you launch premature strikes on a neighborhood-based group like the Mahdi Army is that you just end up convincing their neighborhoods that the occupiers are the enemy, and the Mahdi boys -- local guys you've known all your life -- are heroes, defending your glorious slum from the foreigners and their lackeys.

By the time a homegrown group like Sadr's is ready to "announce itself" on the streets, it's put in years of serious grassroots work winning over the locals block by block. The Mahdi Army runs its own little world in the neighborhoods it controls. It distributes food to the poor, deals out rough justice to the local criminals, and runs the checkpoints that keep Sunni suicide bombers off the block. It's the home team, the Oakland Raiders times one million, for people in places like Sadr City. You can't eradicate it without eradicating the whole neighborhood -- or making it so rich that people don't need a gang. That's probably the only sure way to end guerrilla wars: make the locals so rich they're not interested in gang life any more. And that's not going to happen any time soon for the people crammed into places like Sadr City. Until then, the Mahdi Army is their team and they're sticking by it.

By attacking Sadr's neighborhoods this week, Maliki's troops pushed the Shia masses closer to Sadr; and by losing, they made the slum people prouder than ever of their home team. That's what you get when you go for a "defining moment" in guerrilla war.


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Posted by: Captainmagic on Apr 4, 2008 1:57 AM   
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Which way will Frankenstien turn. Will it consolidate and turn away to repair just as the French and English and Russians did. Or will it go in guns blazing, beating its chest..second to none..god all mightiest most powerfulest in univers'est way and be brought down by the peoples who have been there, done that and who where waiting for you with "THE PLAN" to break you.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Welcome to IRAQ/IRAN YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYED. First by monkey boy sheriff and secondly firstly THE PEOPLES OF THE MIDDLE EAST.

Bu$hCo/Frankenstein turned up the heat and promptly forgot that the peoples of the Middle East live in the heat.

The IRAQI'S are Heroes aren't they......E.O.S.

Captain OUT

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 4, 2008 2:03 AM   
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We don't have to stay in Iraq.


Direct Democracy

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WHAT WE FORGET
Posted by: frontiviki on Apr 4, 2008 2:54 AM   
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I think that all this issue regarding the Mahdi army etc. is somewhat irrelevant in the whole picture. What the people of the world and especially people from the U.S.A. should be pushing for is an indicment to the perpetrators of this...war? No, this is not a war, this is a plundering of a country´s resoures through bloodshed.

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» WHAT WE FORGET Posted by: Cathyc
» This is not a war Posted by: Cathyc
Dancing in the streets
Posted by: carbon-based on Apr 4, 2008 2:55 AM   
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It never ceases to amaze me how the far left nuts rejoice at the thought of America losing face anywhere. Patriotism is not one of their strong points.. There are a number of ways to look at Sadr calling for a cease fire. None of them has to do with America losing anything.

Next thing you'll see is moveon.org type groups calling for Sadr to run for US Congressman.

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gwazdos
Posted by: Gwazdos on Apr 4, 2008 3:42 AM   
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The solution is to have the Court at the Hague begin charges of War Crimes against Bush and Cheney. These two people need to be held accountable for their actions and long ago belonged in Jail not riding their bicycles while our young are being killed and wounded for their Fake Wars!

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» There is a difference Posted by: themotie
Another Juicy AlterNet Headline....
Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Apr 4, 2008 4:25 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...that promises a nice "American Failure" story that liberal and progressive bloggers just love to eat up!

Yes.....it's one thing to be critical about this country....it's another to rejoice in any failings and bash the very fiber of our existence.

But that's alternet......sort of like a car wreck of ideas and opinions....and I can't help but look.


Such a pathetic lot.

Allstar Cookie

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» Nobody's rejoicing?!!!!! Posted by: BCcovers
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This isn't WWII
Posted by: Democritus on Apr 4, 2008 5:45 AM   
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Had the neoconservatives who pushed the war in Iraq read T.E. Lawrence's Seven Pillars of Wisdom they would have known that the Americanization of Iraq could not succeed. the Iraqi nation, invented by the British after WWI, has always been a loose-knit group of families, tribes, religions, and sects, ready to change allegiances as the situation warrants. Saddam Hussein was able to hold these disparate units together by force. When we invaded and destroyed that central control, we opened Pandora's Box, and all these separate entities were free get back to the horse-trading that Arabs do so well.

To think we can "win" in Iraq is idiotic. To think that set-piece battles and bombing strikes will bend these people to our will is a refusal to acknowledge the realities of guerrilla war. To point out these realities is not to be "unpatriotic," as the simple-minded right-wingers allege. It is rather to take the first steps toward wisdom, and to realize that our continued occupation has neither rhyme, reason, nor recompense.

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» RE: This isn't WWII Posted by: Cybershaman
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Not a "rag tag army" !
Posted by: citizenjoe on Apr 4, 2008 5:47 AM   
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The American escalation was countered by the NATIONAL RESISTANCE. That included by over 1000 of the so called Iraq police who fought against the Americans and with the Resistance.

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» RE: Not a "rag tag army" ! Posted by: herronsmith
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» Well put! Posted by: citizenjoe
» RE: Not a "rag tag army" ! Posted by: Livemike
Another pet goat moment
Posted by: QCao009 on Apr 4, 2008 6:06 AM   
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President Bush listened to 18 Booker Elementary School second-graders read a story about a girl's pet goat Tuesday before he spoke briefly and somberly about the terrorist attacks. “Bush hears of attack while visiting Booker,” Sarasota Herald-Tribune, September 12, 2001.
“[H]e lingered in the room for another six minutes [after being informed of the second plane]… [At] 9:12, he abruptly retreated, speaking to Mr. Cheney and New York officials.” David E. Sanger and Don Van Natta Jr., “After The Attacks: The Events;In Four Days, A National Crisis Changes Bush's Presidency,” The New York Times, September 16, 2001 .

The reasons we keep getting these "defining moments" are 1) the stooges are clueless in the most tragic/comic way, 2) they continue to spin whatever is necessary and laugh at all Americans while stuffing their pockets, 3) there is no need for another election here at home because thanks to the Great Communicator and his followers, everything has been privatized and everything's running like a Banana Republic, broken planes in the sky, banks and houses operating on paper money, schoolchildren being tested ad nauseum,roads and parks and bridges falling apart, and most of all, more and more Americans unemployed while jobs are being sent overseas.

The defining moments we have left of this man's legacy are photo op speeches and scripts read in front of captive audiences and POTUS himself ushered in and out and away from real Americans, including people who are dying for his sins. The sight and sound of the TV screen on 9/11 beckon the smell of a man soiling his pants. Yes, another groundhog defining moment indeed, of a drunken jester who thinks himself important.

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Devil's Advocate!
Posted by: cokids on Apr 4, 2008 6:08 AM   
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Read? Who ME? Read? You MUST be KIDDING! I have my reality and I'm comfortable with it and by golly, if we need to bomb them into submission....yes....into oblivion, we can do it! Who else in this world matters? WE DO! WE have the power (military) and we'll use it! Isn't THAT the attitude of the likes of Mr/Ms Cookie .... and the Neo-Cons in the White House? They only know ONE solution and it's to kill.

What? You say, negotiate!?? Use diplomacy? Understand our EVIL enemy? Yes, Sadam WAS the enemy, but now they ALL are the enemy. Kill them all! Isn't that what you believe, Cookie? And I bet you consider yourself a good Christian too?

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Vietnamese peasants proved that AmeriKKKa is a eunuch
Posted by: PakiBoy on Apr 4, 2008 6:12 AM   
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But the world has to be careful given that AmeriKKKa is the only nation in the world to have used atomic weapons, and continues to use chemical weapons (white phosphorous in Falujah and agents in Veitnam), one never knows how the mad AmeriKKKans will react as their wretched empire crashes...

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» Then Leave.. Posted by: BCcovers
» RE: Then Leave.. Posted by: robert.noll
Bush/CheneyIraq War supporters
Posted by: dsmidiman on Apr 4, 2008 6:42 AM   
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There have and will be countless more words written and spoken here on alternet.org and every other form of media available in this country about the attempted take over of Iraq and it's govt. by the idiots driving the bus in the US.

Anyone who doesn't have thier head stuck up thier ass (or somebody else's ass) no matter how they "spin" it can possibly see any good in what has happened. It is by far one of the most catastrophic blunders this nation has ever embarked upon PERIOD!!! In no way shape or form can there be ANYTHING positive or good said about it. It has and is still costing obscene amounts in terms of money and human life to all peoples involved.

The power and greed that started and continues to fuel this obscene fuck-up makes me ashamed to be an American citizen. And the use of terms like patriotism, freedom and moral good to try and justify it is beyond comprehension. There is no doubt that the founding fathers of this country are rolling over in disgust in thier graves.

There has been alot of chatter about bringing Bush/Cheney and others that manifested and excuted this autrocity to justice through the courts and I totally agree. I also think that it is time to start thinking about bringing up the same charges on people continuing to support it at this stage of the game given what we all now know...

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One of the worlds's Great Military Organizations
Posted by: rafey on Apr 4, 2008 7:05 AM   
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Most folks forget that the Mahdi Army represents a portion of one of the world's most well organized and experienced organizations of Persian soldiers. They managed to keep the entire Iraqi military at bey for years back in the eighties, even though we were supporting Sadam's military at the time. They haven't lost their touch and have everything to lose if they are defeated.

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ironic
Posted by: Joe on Apr 4, 2008 7:07 AM   
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one of the reason i've always heard against gun ownership is that the government is so powerful (tanks, aircraft, etc) that citizens couldn't possibly take government on with their simple rifle and handguns. by gloating about iraq guerrilla warfare tactics you undermine your opposition to the second amendment.

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» Absolutely! Posted by: BCcovers
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» You are a dolt. Posted by: Illiteratilumen
More war is good
Posted by: MikeOckhurtz on Apr 4, 2008 7:26 AM   
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Can anyone seriously believe that Bush/Cheney and the neocons and Izraelis want peace in Iraq? For them, the more chaos the better. Eventually they will get their war against Iran and the Izraelis will get to go on stealing land from the Palestinians and building the illegal settlements. One day they will remove the Palestinians from the as yet undefined borders of the rogue theological state called Izrael and complete their decades long plan of slow ethnic cleansing. None of the current player want peace. In fact, Malikis defeat is more of an excuse to ramp up the war.

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» RE: More war is good Posted by: cwilsondrum
It ceased to amaze me years ago
Posted by: donl51 on Apr 4, 2008 7:48 AM   
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That every time that man opens his mouth,nothing comes out ,or if it does it sounds like an old spaghetti western, plain and simple the man leading our country is a moron...no wait, I once heard It takes a village to raise a child,! well there's a village in texas missing its idiot!! Now I can understand how GW got through one of the finest colleges in this country w/o having to learn how to speak, but isn't Laura a Librarian ? one of my sisters studied Library Science in college,that's no easy trick...why do I even ask????

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» Library Science? Posted by: Cathyc
I'm glad that someone is analyzing this
Posted by: happyhermit on Apr 4, 2008 7:56 AM   
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what sadr is doing, and the misconceptions around it, are very important.

but i just clicked on the Exile site where this article was posted. the title is:

"Who Won Iraq's "Decisive" Battle"

not

"How the U.S. Just Got Schooled"


this is pretty immature on Alternet's part. hundreds of people died in these fights and protests.

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» Ahhh, A voice of sanity! Posted by: chuckjs
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we can win
Posted by: solrev on Apr 4, 2008 7:56 AM   
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We can win in Iraq and all we have to do to win is, give them their oil and go home. Al-Sadr is going to end up with control of Iraq because as a nationalist, he can unite with the Sunni nationalists. Obama has the opportunity to change not only the politics of the Middle East but the world. I hope we get the chance to see what he does. If he tries to prop up the al-Badr Shia government and sneak out of Iraq, there will be a civil war and al-Sadr will win no matter what Iran does. The globalists will punish the Iraqi until the day al-Sadr dies for turning their land over to the nationalists. We could not defeat the nationalists in Nam and now we are losing in Iraq. Do you think the lesson to be learned is do not fight nationalists on their home turf?

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» RE: we can win....Jesus Posted by: Captainmagic
Astonishing failure of analysis in the Western press
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 4, 2008 8:29 AM   
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All this discussion completely misses the central reason why the #1 U.S. enemy in Iraq is not Al Qaeda, and not the Iranians, but rather Al Sadr and supporters.

It's called the hydrocarbon law. Hakim and SIIC and the Badr Brigade all support the hydrocarbon law as well as the "soft partition" of Iraq, which is the central agenda of the Bush Administration in Iraq: get the hydrocarbon law passed and the country partitioned so that oil contracts with Exxon, Chevron, Hunt Oil and friends can all be locked in. A key part of that goal is to defeat and "make irrelevant" the Mahdi Army - because Sadr has publicly opposed the hydrocarbon law as well as the soft partition of Iraq.

There are a few reports in international corporate press, all heavily spun, as for example:

"Among the political issues Cheney discussed with Iraq's leaders was a stalled hydrocarbon law, stressing that it was important to Iraq's national development, U.S. ambassador Ryan Crocker said later.

The law would share revenues from Iraq's vast oil reserves, the world's third largest, but remains blocked because of reluctance to compromise among Iraq's political blocs.


Share revenues with who? Oh, right, with U.S. and British oil corporations, who will get to control production decisions under the hydrocarbon law. It sure isn't intended as a "reconciliatory measure." If BushCo wanted reconciliation, all they'd have to do is say "We're canceling the privatization plans, and letting the Iraqi oil unions sit at the table." They don't want reconciliation - they want absolute control over what will be, within a decade or two, the world's #1 oil producer.

What's astonishing to me personally is that people can write on and on and on about the "military aspects" of the invasion, occupation and resulting insurgency in Iraq without ever thinking it necessary to discuss the central role that petroleum plays in all these events.

I mean, there wasn't even any discussion of the military attack on the Basra pipeline that shut down oil production, further demonstrating the utter failure of the puppet government in Baghdad to control the situation.

Cheney wants to control the upcoming elections and put a pro-hydrocarbon, pro-partition government in. He likely ordered Maliki to get rid of Sadr before the elections, right?

Recall that the leadup to this open warfare involved targeted raids on Sadr supporters, and which Maliki agreed to halt as a condition of Sadr's ceasefire.

Also, the attacks on Sadr by U.S. and Badr Brigade forces were preceded by a call for peaceful nonviolent civil disobedience by Sadr (actually reported by CNN here, though spun through the lens of the U.S. military propaganda corps.) CNN mentions that this was motivated by the desire to control Iraqi elections this summer by removing the opposition, but doesn't mention the underlying goal: control of Iraqi oil.

The U.S. corporate press has been forced to address the issue, but most of their efforts go into attempts to debunk the notion that the goal of the invasion was control of Iraqi oil - the Washington Post (Mar 16 2008) says that's a "conspiracy theory."

Apparently, the notion that Bush and Cheney and Blair and Chalabi's INC all collaborated to cook up false information about Saddam's WMD programs and ties to 9/11 is also a "conspiracy theory".

It's a general rule in the U.S. press that all conspiracy theories, once defined as such by the press, are not true.

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Buju Banton has a message for AmeriKKKans
Posted by: PakiBoy on Apr 4, 2008 8:42 AM   
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Murderer !
Blood is on your shoulders
Kill I today you cannot kill I tomorrow
Murder !
Your insides must be hollow
How does it feel to take the life of another

Yes, you can hide from man but not your conscience
You eat the bread of sorrow drink the wine of violence

Allow yourself to be conquered by the serpent
Why did you disobey the first commandment

Walk through the valley I feel no pestilence
God is my witness and he is my evidence

Lift up mine eyes from whence cometh help
You coulda never escape this judgement

I tell you, all men are created equal
But behind the trigger it's a different sequel
Some are murdering people to collect medals
Stop committing dirty acts for the high officials
You could wash your hands until you can't wash them any more
It is like an epidemic and you won't find a cure
Upper class you could be rich, middle class wheter you are poor
Only the righteous won't feel insecure
Have you ever thought about your skill getting bored

Drinking sulphur bitters won't bitter like your end
Only God can help you, no family or friend
Don't let the curse be upon your children's children
Abdenigo, Shadreck, Meshek, Daniel in the eden
Jonah in the whale's belly, but he was never condemned
Job with the leprosy, and he still reached heaven
He will do for you everything He has done for them.

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» This AMERICAN has a message for PakiBoy Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» I need more blood than that! Posted by: Illiteratilumen
RAG TAG NEIGHBORHOOD ARMY, WHAT AN INSULT
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 4, 2008 8:53 AM   
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Any resistance group in Iraq, regardless of religious or political affiliation is acustomed to fighting in confined spaces. They do more damage with less. Not exactly a rag tag operation. They simply function more effectively because that's all they know how to do. They don't have weapons of mass destruction like we do. And we still lose too many soldiers. What we have is a rag tag administration. Thanks, ANNA

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Rag-tag armies
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 4, 2008 9:37 AM   
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I am familiar with two rag-tag armies: (1) the Viet Cong who kicked our butts in Southeast Asia and (2) the American revolutionaries who kicked British butts over 200 years ago.

President Bush, who majored in History at Yale, obviously didn't a learn a damn thing at the Ivy League school.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, ARDENT Obama supporter, and author of George Dub-ya Bush, THE PHONY FIGHTER PILOT, published in 2004.

To read a sample chapter and learn about the only smoking-gun proof of White House corruption ever found on the Web, visit www.PhonyFighterPilot.com.

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bvida
Posted by: bvida on Apr 4, 2008 10:04 AM   
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Re:How the U.S. Just Got Schooled by a 'Rag-Tag' Neighborhood Army in Iraq

By Gary Brecher, The eXile. Posted April 4, 2008.


It was a delightful education for me who normally do not spend a lot reading jurnalists, but loved it, please keep up informing and educating us who will become an informed voters and hipefully won't fuck up as bad as we did last eight years! thanks a mill!

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mick3
Posted by: mick3 on Apr 4, 2008 10:08 AM   
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Has anyone else noticed how quiet Cheney has been in recent months. Just one appearance into the light, to plot with Olmert about the elimination of Palestinians for good while starting WWIII. Eerily like the summer of 2001, until the 11th of September.

So what is he up to now? How about another trigger event, since the first one went so well. I would hate to be living in a well-populated area of the US about now, let alone near one of our WMD sites, our chemical factories, bio labs, nuclear facilities, and all. Or downwind.

And why, oh why doesn't Cheney's so-called heart give out? He's like an evil battery (sorry, I tend to block out brand names) bunny.

Will we actually come to citizen revolution rather than find a calm, rational leader to turn the nation away from the nightmare of endless war on behalf of a few more corporations and the Strangelove dreams of Cheney et al.?

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» RE: mick3 Posted by: tornadorider2002
Remember the battle of Little Big Horn?
Posted by: willymack on Apr 4, 2008 10:17 AM   
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Custer underestimated the "savages" and was made a fool of by the Dakotas, the Arapahoes, and the Cheyenne, who came together for a common cause, namely the winning back of their homelands, and the preservation of their cultures. It was the same greedy bastards who eventually prevailed in our West, just as they've become dominant today; only the names have changed. Here's how I see the situation today. First, a malleable halfwit is shoved down our throats in 2000, even though he LOST the"election" to Al Gore. NOBODY challenges this evil crime, and that leaves us wide open for another fraudulent farce in 2004. In the meantime, 911 happens, A helpless and harmless Iraq is attacked and brutalized in a continuous, barbaric effort to hammer down all resistance to the theft of Iraqi oil, and establish a permanent presence there (at least until the oil is gone), and bully the entire region. Now, the same pathological criminals who brought us the Iraq tragedy want to make a bad situation much worse by attacking Iran, and likely rallying the entire Islsmic world against us. That's about a billion people, folks. As usual, our military geniuses have underestimated a people who want nothing more than self-determination and freedom from our oppressive presence. Having arrogant, foreign bullies in your country is a great incentive to find ingenious ways to give the enemy a black eye. Does the year 1776 ring a bell?

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» But that's what thugs do Posted by: Cathyc
Rag-Tag?
Posted by: rsmohio on Apr 4, 2008 10:55 AM   
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You must be kidding. These people are obviously a disciplined, well-trained guerilla force. If other groups that are bumbling around in Iraq pick up on the viability of the tactics used, it could get worse for the U.S. military.

Denigrating them by calling them terrorists and insurgents means nothing to them. That's strictly a term to placate the American public to continue to put up with this venture. The fact is, if the situation were turned around and we were the invaded country, we'd be calling these types of soldiers freedom fighters, revolutionaries, or some other term that shed them in a good light. To win against guerillas on their own territory is an exercise in futility. It shouldn't have taken five years to figure it out. But then we always have to consider the brainpower of those in charge.

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This war cannot be won.
Posted by: radiomorning on Apr 4, 2008 11:54 AM   
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It is not meant to be won. Ask the administration what it would take to secure 'victory' for the US... They have no answer for you. It can only be won by the American people if they manage to get their sons and daughters home.

This is the ongoing war of Orwell's vision, this so-called war on terror. And Iraq is merely a pillaging ground.

To hear pundits on TV say that we cannot withdraw because that would be 'losing' is sickening. How many more must die so that you can feel warmly wrapped in some nebulous concept of victory? If you stay, you lose. If you leave, you lose. You lost the day George Bush became president.

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» RE: This war cannot be won...True Posted by: Captainmagic
You Lost Washington and Tel Aviv, So Get Out Before More of Your Boys Are Slaughtered!
Posted by: sofla100 on Apr 4, 2008 12:37 PM   
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Maliki was "green lighted" by Iran to go after Sadr. Iran just wanted to "bloody him up" a little so he knows who the boss is, and also to make Maliki feel like his government actually has some real power. Of course, Maliki, Sadr, Iran, none of them are stupid enough to waste a lot of their own lives on this foolishness, so, who else to have involved for this but the Americans? Naturally, since America was the country stupid enough to invade in the first place and clean out Saddam for the Mullahs in Teran. When will America get it? Her troops are just lives for the slaughter house. The only thing left for her is to constantly harp on Iran and try to turn her into a bogeyman. But, it's too late. Washington and Tel Aviv, you've lost this one. Elect that idiot McCain and just wait and see how many more American lives can be slaughtered!

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