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War on Iraq

Cost of Iraq War Now Beyond Human Comprehension

By William D. Hartung, Tomdispatch.com. Posted March 5, 2008.


War is hell -- deadly, dangerous, and expensive. But just how expensive is it?
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How far off were they? Well, it depends on which figure you choose to start with. Here's the range: According to key officials in the Bush administration back in 2002-2003, the invasion and reconstruction of Iraq was either going to cost $60 billion, or $100-$200 billion. Actually, we can start by tossing that top figure out, since not long after Bush economic advisor Larry Lindsey offered it in 2002, he was shown the door, in part assumedly for even suggesting something so ludicrous.

Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz championed the $60 billion figure, but added that much of the cost might well be covered by Iraqi oil revenues; the country was, after all, floating on a "sea of oil." ("To assume we're going to pay for it all is just wrong," he told a congressional hearing.) Still, let's take that $60 billion figure as the Bush baseline. If economists Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes are right in their recent calculations and this will turn out to be more than a $3 trillion war (or even a $5-7 trillion one), then the Bush administration was at least $2,940,000,000,000 off in its calculations.

That definitely qualifies as a ballpark figure for an administration that never saw a budget estimate for one of its imperial dreams that it couldn't hike. Take just one of its major "reconstruction" projects: getting the vast U.S. embassy staff out of a former palace of Saddam Hussein and into a brand-new, almost Vatican-sized "embassy," a genuine mother ship, being built from the ground up inside Baghdad's heavily fortified (and often heavily shelled) Green Zone. Originally scheduled to open in mid-2007, what will undoubtedly be the largest "diplomatic" mission on the planet was initially budgeted for $592 million. Predictably, its price tag soared another $144 million, and now comes in at $736 million, as yet unopened. In December 2007, the State Department officially certified it "substantially complete," but, as with most Bush administration construction projects in that country, it remains in a state of staggering unreadiness; two of the State Department employees who worked on it are now "under criminal investigation"; and the State Department is dragging its feet about handing over relevant documents to Congress. Ho-hum.

Nothing, of course, has been cheap for American taxpayers who are financing the Bush administration's war policies. It's been like putting up money for an administration staffed by shopaholics let loose in Neiman Marcus or gambling addicts freed to roam Las Vegas with no betting limits.

But what does money matter? After all, this administration has been spending as if there were no tomorrow. And now, with tomorrow staring them in the face, the latest scare tactic seems to be claiming that doing anything about present policies will simply be ... too expensive. Not long after the price of oil crested above $103 a barrel, Karl Rove, for instance, predicted that any serious "redeployment" from Iraq would mean ... $200 a barrel oil.

Sigh ... Fortunately, we've got William Hartung, director of the Arms and Security Initiative at the New America Foundation, to try to put Bush spending policies in its wars of choice into perspective. -- Introduction by TomDispatch editor Tom Engelhardt.

War is Hell, But What the Hell Does it Cost? One Week at War in Iraq and Afghanistan for $3.5 Billion
By William D. Hartung

War is hell -- deadly, dangerous, and expensive. But just how expensive is it?

In a recent interview, Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz asserted that the costs of the Iraq war -- budgetary, economic, and societal -- could reach $5 trillion.

That's a hard number to comprehend. Figuring out how many times $5 trillion would circle the globe (if we took it all in one dollar bills) doesn't really help matters much, nor does estimating how many times we could paper over every square inch of Rhode Island with it. The fact that total war costs could buy six trillion donuts for volunteers to the Clinton, Obama, McCain, and Huckabee campaigns -- assuming a bulk discount -- is impressive in its own way, but not all that meaningful either. In fact, the Bush administration's war costs have already moved beyond the human scale of comprehension.


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William D. Hartung is the director of the Arms and Security Initiative at the New America Foundation. He is the author of And Weapons for All (Harper Collins, 1994) and How Much Are You Making on the War, Daddy? A Quick and Dirty Guide to War Profiteering in the Bush Administration (Nation Books, 2004).

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Mar 5, 2008 1:03 AM   
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The Bush administration: Try 'em & Fry 'em

There's no statute of limitations on genocide.

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» What We Are Up Against Posted by: TarryFaster
» Have I got it? Am I right? Posted by: nigelbest
This is what I've been saying
Posted by: vox persona on Mar 5, 2008 1:37 AM   
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I just don't get the war supporters and their cognitive dissonance. And many 'conservatives' support this misguided, counter-productive, ill-conceived, misbegotten, counter-intuitive, ill-planned, war/occupation based on lies and (not so) hidden agendas. It was a war of choice, cynically waged on the backs of fear and the shock of an attack which was completely preventable with available intel. It was interventionist at best, a pre-planned corporate coup more likely. The only winners are Iran, jihadists, and of course war profiteers and cronies. More money has been wasted in this bald faced transfer of taxpayer wealth to corporate interests, than in all the schemes in our history combined. It was an imperial policy of occupation and subjugation to march our troops into the hell's mouth of Babylon with a cavalier 'bring 'em on', setting up our troops as magnets and targets. We had the beast of Babylon contained, hell, he was 'our boy' in the region when Ronald Raygun sent 'Special Envoy' Donald Rumsfeld there to shake his hand and deliver instruments of death. Then Raygun/Bush the elder looked the other way as he gassed his own citizens. We held off the 'evil empire' with tens of thousands of nukes aimed straight at us, but we just had to invade a region seething with tribal hatred, unleashing forces akin to taking the lid off a pressure cooker. The Box of Pandora comes to mind, I just pray we salvaged hope this time around. A snakepit is only dangerous if one jumps in it willingly. Our Dunce In Chief drove our nation's bus off the cliff with us still in it, and we're in the 'free fall' stage. Our dollar is in free fall, our prestige/image/respect around the globe is in free fall, the stock market is ready to take a major tumble, and oil is at an all-time high, all because of one decision by one man who got in through the shady means iof a stacked 'Supreme' Court, an ill-timed run of a candidate who siphoned votes from the real winner, a butterfly ballot, old folks in Florida who are easily confused, and a state run by a convenient brother and Maybelline queen. I used to say that we have been spending $5,000 PER SECOND since this insane 'war' started, but factoring societal costs, lifelong disability and resulting costs along with lost productivity, replacement costs, etc., I'll have to raise that figure by an exponential factor. To call this a blundert of colossal and biblical proportions would be an understatement. In case I wasn't clear, I don't support this travesty of a tragedy. I'm sorry, what was the question?

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Costs of False "war on terror" are about Corporate Monopoly Profit
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Mar 5, 2008 2:51 AM   
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That's a calculation at the bottom of the motive for all significant wars and in this case - for a 9/11 cover-up behind this latest excuse for human genocide.

Nothing about this global war is remotely sane or justified. Not one thing.

This is about blood money.

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No telling
Posted by: talkville on Mar 5, 2008 3:20 AM   
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Perhaps we should ask some of our crack psychologists and neuro-scientists how much it would cost to sublimate and reify Reality and thus 'End History' once and for all! That's what seems to be the driving wish of the imperialists these days. At the same time they could help us with comprehension and attention-deficit conditions and all these other manifestations we're all experiencing.

We've already reified "The Economy" into a living breathing throbbing entity that just seems to 'act' in ways independent of us; Corporations are duly sitting in in their "fictitious person-hood", penetrating this and opening that and acting independently of us. Why not Reality?

Could it be "Twilight of the Idols" or "A Rebirth of Tragedy"?

A good Lottery might solve the problem. 1st human to figure out the cost of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq (affectionately called "The War") wins (put in your favorite award here). One thing's sure: Wall Street and Washington aren't too concerned about it. But if it cost $1, it cost too much for a long time to come. There ARE a few exceptions, of course, and they've taken care and are taking care of their non-participation in payment as we speak.

And the players aren't simply National or Domestic any more: it's a global thing it's a macro-macro-economy for sure. But who will be bearing the costs has been demonstrated time and time again historically; it won't be different this time either. Doing the same thing over and over and over again but bigger and bigger each time -- expecting a different result... I've heard that somewhere in reference to mental states.

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How to Double the National Debt in TwoTerms
Posted by: manatthewindow on Mar 5, 2008 4:02 AM   
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Way back in 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act robbed the American people of control over their own wealth by putting usurers in charge of the nation's money supply, the National Debt of the USA was negligible.
It's taken the Banksters the best part of eighty years to siphon off four trillion dollars of the people's wealth into their swag bags.
Now, after two terms of the worst Presidency in history, the Mal-Administration has doubled the American people's debt liability to the Money Masters.
Congress allowed this.
The Senate allowed this.
The Judiciary allowed this.
The People allowed this.
The prospective candidates for the Presidential Office continue to ignore this.


The Bush Administration: TRY 'EM AND FRY 'EM

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» See "The Money Masters": Posted by: JoAnne
Cost of The Iraq War - The Destruction of any Pretence of Human Morality of Western Ruling Elites
Posted by: opmoc on Mar 5, 2008 4:02 AM   
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It's not just a neocon thing started in 2003. The Iraq war actually started in 1991 when Iraq was given the Green light to invade Kuwait. It continued under Clinton with sanctions and bombing which was largely hidden unless you were in Iraq seeing your children die.

The objective was always obvious - to steal / control the richest sources of energy supplies on the planet.

The total financial destruction of Western economies was started even earlier when Reagan and Thatcher adopted Milton Friedman's economics. This resulted in the shutdown of most wealth creating industries in the West - and their transfer to South East Asia.

Having realised that we had already effectively impoverished ourseleves - the only solution seemed to be Smash and Grab.

Western Governments have basically become armed robbers where the death and mutilation of Millions of People is tagged "colateral damage" and public outrage is subdued by psychological control via the media that gives the impression that it is just a computer game.

The only way forward is to bring The War Criminals to Trial - starting with the Politicians. Under interrogation they will almost certainly reveal the source of the real evil.

We then need to start trying to make reperations for the destruction we have caused.

Basically ordinary Americans and British deserve to become the Slaves of the Countries we have destroyed - because we are Guilty too.

We allowed our Governments to do this. Even when it was obvious - we actually voted them back into power to continue it - both Bush and Blair.

We still have time to save ourselves from the hell we have created on Earth. But we've got to start doing the morally correct things. And by morally correct - we need to start respecting that human beings all over the planet are people just the same as your family and friends. They feel pain and they cry just like us. We need to realise that we are committing one of the worst attrocities ever in human history and stop doing it. If we continue the human race will not survive.

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If it's going to cost 2 trillion...
Posted by: PJAW on Mar 5, 2008 5:22 AM   
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2 trilion dollars is becoming a "conservative" estimate of late.

Oil was $36 a barrel when Bush declared war and Iraq is estimated to have about 115 billion barrels of known reserves. If we had offered them $40 a barrel, we could have bought 50 of those 115 for 2 trillion dollars.

Iraq would be a functioning country today and we would not have turned 4,000 of our soldiers into landfill. There would be other benefits as well, but It think you get the point.

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War Criminal
Posted by: modeler on Mar 5, 2008 5:40 AM   
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Bush is equal to the worst fascists in history if not worse. The next president HAS TO SIGN ON TO THE INTERNATIONAL COURT IN DEN HAGUE and get him his due as the warcriminals of yore got theirs. And he is lucky that there is no more death penalty, he surely deserves it, so do his neo-con sidekickes and Dicks. And the country will still go broke.

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A Trillion Dollar Perspective
Posted by: TarryFaster on Mar 5, 2008 6:56 AM   
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To put these costs in perspective, 1 trillion dollars ($1,000,000,000,000) would make a stack of $100 bills placed one on top of the other, flat side on top of flat side, reach 679 miles high.

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This short video captures the outrageous cost of war
Posted by: heriza on Mar 5, 2008 7:03 AM   
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What else could these dollars do?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wnq6cD5jk1Q

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What's the fuss about?
Posted by: Doggycuny on Mar 5, 2008 9:06 AM   
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I dunno why people are complaining about the cost of the war. You just can't please some people. The American public started their brainless chanting for Saddam's head when their King George told them Saddam was the boogeyman and he was gonna fly to the USA and 'get them'. The world's not a movie! There is no boggeyman trying to get you! There is nobody under your little bed! Still, the brainless King George managed to out-wit his loyal and naive citizens into thinking that war is the answer. And they believed him when he said the war was gonna cost about $100! Yeh, try $3trillion!

Now they are angry little children, cause they got out-smarted by their retard! And the retard has ruined their country. DOH! I guess nobody in the world told them about politicians lying! Learnt any lessons America? Learn anything from Vietnam? Yeh? No? Maybe? Have you heard of Vietnam? You should have read about it in your coloring books at school!

It's okay America. Don't feel bad. That's just the way it is. You vote for your retard. Your retard becomes president (funny how a Head of State epitomizes the 'spirit of the nation'.) You believe everything that dribbles from the retards mouth. The retard scares you with talk about the boogeyman and monsters. You give up your liberties to the retard. You send your sons and daughters to die for your retard in a country you know nothing about. Then you get angry with the retard for lying and being a retard. Then when you're Fox News comes on you'll forget you were ever angry and put your baby pacifier back in your mouth. Good baby!

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Thebigkate
Posted by: Thebigkate on Mar 5, 2008 9:51 AM   
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What is missing from this piece is the relationship of these costs of war to the incredible shambles that is our economy. I refer you to Bob Herbert's NYT March 4 op-ed, "The $2 Trillion Nightmare," in which he speaks of how this enormous amount of money could be spent funding medicare, social security, Head Start, Universal Health Care Insurance, etc., etc. FOR THE NEXT FIFTY YEARS!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/opinion/04herbert.html

This is what Obama needs to be focusing on and getting out to the voters!!!!! Hillary Clinton is not interested, because she wants to keep big military spending. But, please, this is tragic!!!!!!

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Really breaking it down
Posted by: LeeAnnG on Mar 5, 2008 10:58 AM   
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It's a phenomenon of the human condition to have difficulty in comprehending very large or very small numbers. For example, when one says that Bill Gates may be worth 54 billion (or whatever that amount has gone up or down to recently), few people seem to be concerned. Telling working people that the average CEO makes 400 or 500 times the average worker gets few reactions. But when the school superintendent makes $100,000, school secretaries who make maybe $20,000 get very upset that he makes five - not 500, not even 50, but just five - times their income. Odd, isn't it?

So when Americans hear that the war costs $1 trillion or $2 trillion, it probably doesn't register. One way to break through is to reduce the numbers down to the smallest possible increment. The following estimate is based on $3.5 billion per week.

In order to earn $1 billion at one dollar per second, it would take around 33 years. So let's assume exactly 33 years. OK - that's $1/second

But we are talking about $3.5 billion, so we have to pump it up to $3.5/second.

However, that would take 33 years. What if it took only 1 year? We have to multiply our result by 33, bringing the cost to $115.5/second.

And, finally, since it's not one year, but one week, we have to multiply the result one more time by 52. The final cost per second - if indeed the estimate of $3.5 billion per week is correct - is a grand total of $6006 every second of every day.

That's $360,360 every minute. So every minute of every day, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, we could pay three teachers a salary of over $100,000 for the year.

That's just for starters. Our roads, bridges, libraries, schools, health care needs, and many other necessities are being neglected while the Bush Administration squanders our tax dollars on an unprecedented scale. But the vastness of the amount is so unimaginable that it's hard to grasp.

I've done the math several times, but I'm not a mathematician. I just did a little multiplication and came up with those results. If anyone has different conclusions, I'd be glad to adjust. But in any case, this is an outrage.

If any courageous soul in the media were to start examining these figures, presenting them to the public, and then comparing the cost of the invasion and occupation to what the money could be used for, it might actually have an impact.

Hey, Obama! If you really want to talk about the war and get people's attention, here's a very good place to start. If the war is not on people's minds, but the economy is, why not equate the two as they should be and wake people up a little?

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The Devil We Don't Know
Posted by: JayHaden on Mar 5, 2008 11:35 AM   
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I'm not sure how they intend to rule the world once they own it -- maybe by offering whoever is left deep fried carrots and nuclear sticks, or carrots on a stick -- but the oligarchs are simply making good on Grover Norquist's promise to downsize government till it can be drowned in a bathtub. This war is just the most convenient and efficient way to accomplish the coup. By demanding that the rich and corporate not be taxed, Bush signals who's behind the putsch -- and that it is in fact a takeover. By demanding that telecomms not be punished, ditto. Bush, friends and family are people mounted on death-dealing corporations who have thumbed their noses at American values for a century: financing wars, Nazis, Auschwitz, Commies, Pol Pot, drug lords, Saddam, bin Laden. They have no vested interest in this country's moral salvation. They are incapable of that. They also know that bringing down the US will destroy economies everywhere, leaving the Chosen Few to pick up the pieces and dole out Chiclets to the survivors in return for allegiance to the new system, which will look a lot like feudalism on a global scale. We, who care, are playing a different game, different rules. We're being blindsided by ruthless aliens who don't give a fig for fairness, sympathy, solidarity, or suffering. Those are weaknesses to be exploited. We can go on counting and being outraged until the stack of 100 dollar bills reaches the moon and they will simply sit back and laugh, "That's how we crushed the Soviet Union."

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Calling Out to Intelligent Lifeforms south of the 49th parallel
Posted by: stellabloo on Mar 5, 2008 2:18 PM   
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????? Ok so I support 3 kids of my own (gladly) and proud to say I sponsor a couple more as well and now I read this??? It makes me want to BANG-MY-HEAD-AGAINST-THE-DESK-OVER-AND-OVER ...
I know you alternet readers vote but For The Love of God - in the next election, please not only vote yourselves but if necessary, DRAG some disaffected emo punk or such along with you and make a difference this time - please (seeing as us canadians are supposed to be polite) ;)

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Good Jub Bush: The Iraq War Made America China's Bitch
Posted by: sofla100 on Mar 5, 2008 2:24 PM   
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To finance the deficit caused by the Iraq war (and tax cuts for the rich), Bush has been borrowing like crazy. China now owns 1.5 and possibly 2 trillion in US dollars and securities. So, America, you are now China's Bitch. You know what that means? China can control the American economy and American markets by simply moving money around. Why no objection from Bush for "human rights abuses" in China but lots of "objections" for Cuba? We all know what the score is, and who now calls the tunes, don't we?

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Mar 5, 2008 4:39 PM   
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SHUT DOWN THE IRS / SHUT DOWN THE WAR

http://www.warresisters.org

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It is an old story.........................
Posted by: peridot on Mar 5, 2008 9:41 PM   
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of decline and collapse that we are living. The validity and legitimacy of the WARS America is engaged in require a state of mind that is oblivious to self interest. It is called Folly. In times past, this state of mind has precipitated the extinction of other once dominant institutions. Historically it seems that these institutions implode at moment of their greatest power. We who speak here, humble, unassuming citizens of the Empire of the Wall Street, can only watch and agonize because we cannot influence this condition. Indeed, at the most public level, it cannot even be spoken of, let alone be debated. The very notion of Liberty, the one great defining notion of the American Revolution has undergone a transformation as to be now unrecognizable. Ben Franklin once made the assertion that the new republic as it was constituted would last about 200 years before its natural enemies could undo it. Ben Franklin understood much about the nature of people and the governments they create. The maintenance of Liberty, as we were all taught (I hope) requires continual vigilance. Somewhere along the way, the citizens lost sight of this truth.

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And so I/We must ask...
Posted by: bobtr900 on Mar 6, 2008 1:29 PM   
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Are the Republican party fiscal conservatives going to pay for this war? are the Bush/ Cheney families going to pay for this war? Are the Fiscal conservatives of the south going to pay for it? Are the minions of the Rethug party, the big wealthy mega-religions and my religion(Catholic Church) included going to pay for this war of choice? I'm waiting for ananswer Pope Benedict, you are a Republican. and this is your war. Youy chose it so you pay for it.

Are Hag-ee, Dobson, Reed, Norquist, daddy Booosh and Jeb Booosh and their friend David Duke and the pro-life and family values set going to pay for this war, their war. Is any one on the religious/ racist right going to pay for this war?

Are the oil companies going to pay for this war out their profits and the profits of their shareholders? Are any of the no-taxers going to pay for this war? Limbaugh you big fat ass this means you and your no tax friends.

NOT one damn friggin penny are the aforementioned going to pay for this war. We the taxpayers, we the people, are going to pay for this war. It has been shoved down our throats and yet we must pay for it.

I will never for as long as I live let another no-taxer ever get away with saying no taxes in my presence. And that includes those who are in my own family.

I think I'll send a bill for this war to my local Bishop Lennon, of the Clevelnad Catholic Diocese. Hellloooo Bishop Lennon here comes another email that you are not going to like, but the Iraqi and our troops families like it far less so I don't care that you don't like it because I hate what you have chosen to he a party to. And don't you dare tell me that the Pope spoke against this war because you and he did exactly nothing to stop it. And your actions say everything, while your phony words mean nothing. Same as your fiscal conservative pro-life and family values friends.

I sure as hell am not going to pay for their war. They wanted it so they must pay for their killing spree. They dance with Satan and now they must pay for their evil.

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» And don't forget the "good" Pope Pius XII... Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal
one second
Posted by: wonderpulp on Mar 6, 2008 5:31 PM   
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1 second of war = 5,787.03

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The thing that really bothers me...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Mar 6, 2008 6:01 PM   
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...is how the Democraps have stood by while this is happening with nary a sound. While we don't accept it, we understand the sociopathic nature of Republicans. Somehow in my naivety I expected more from the Democraps. They can't be that gutless, can they?

The only other answer is that they are complicit in destroying the once proud Amerikkka. In other words we have somehow been infiltrated by people destined to destroy this country and it's only a matter of time.

My one question to anyone who understands economics: How will these trillions be paid? How will this debt manifest itself in the future? How soon in the future with the sh#t hit the proverbial fan? Thanks.

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DOWN WITH CORPORATE MEDIA - UP WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
Posted by: Michael_D on Mar 7, 2008 1:36 PM   
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Our military is nothing less or more than a reflection of society with which it is made up. Sad.

Please wake up people! Obama is a cousin of Cheney and is a CFR mouthpiece just like the other and you people want to still deny how these criminals roll? Caught up in the crossfire of power/corruption like so many! He says only "change" allot thus proving his inexperience or will to tackle our REAL problems!!!! He is no different at ALL than the others.

The Clinton's ? watch this and WAKE UP TO THE TRUE POWER OF MEDIA MANIPULATION!

The revolution is on. Wake up to what we all have let the media do to America. They have now consolidated into only 5 corporations for everything on AMERICAN TV!!!! The news commentators on TV are either part of it, or fooled themselves!

oh yea, realize this fact too pretty damn quick people:

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They do this by contolling information and by GREATLY influencing our elections with the BUSH-CHENEY connected DIEBOLD MACHINES (now PRIMIER) and all kinds of other strong arm tactics

around the nation whereby they influence or STEAL the elections!.

Wake up if you love American freedom and hate needless war for profit and/or overthrowing of governments and confusion of the masses by corrupt CIA and all the neocons!

This is what the media/government has done to us for too long. The internet and people rising up with the TRUTH after all these years of media lies is the only thin that can help America now. There is no

left or right in America at this moment. Only corruptness and media lies so big that most can't see though it.

McCain is one of the WORST puppets out there!!! His top four contributors, (like most candidates, are... BANKS!

R E S E A R C H

Ron Paul’s military contributions are greater than those of all other current candidates – John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama –combined.

The “Top Contributors” figures can be found at www.opensecrets.org.

JOIN the rEVOLution people. IT IS DUTY.

When big media blocks Ron Paul out, it blocks YOU (and all your kids and family) out.

Why do you think they spew so much about "terrorists"?

Starting to get the picture now?

No more lies. They must go. The time is now.

STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Join the revolution. Take back America. Shun the non-believers.

TaxDay08

and sure don't miss the rally on DC on June 21st.

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The people who are profiting off this war...
Posted by: smendler on Mar 10, 2008 7:34 AM   
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...have names.

And addresses.

And assets.

'Nuff said.

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Patriotism and Our Nations Wealth
Posted by: premarachel on Mar 11, 2008 2:54 PM   
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Patriotism and Our Nations Wealth.

As the wealthiest nation on earth our problem is not one of there not being enough to provide everyone with good healthcare, good education, good jobs, good homes; of course there is enough. Our problem is that a vast majority of us Americans are greedy, we have a poverty consciousness that tells us we never have enough so we must get as much as we can by whatever means possible. Our politicians and leaders, our corporations that pay vast sums to lobbyists in Washington to set policies that protect and add to their wealth, they are the shadow expression of our collective greed and poverty consciousness; as are we, so are they.
The richest 1 percent of Americans now own 40 percent of US wealth. This is the greatest inequality of any industrial nation and the worst in US history since the Roaring Twenties. In 1945 the wealthiest Americans were paying a 91 percent taxation (as compared to 31 percent today) and it was this that created not only the greatest economic and industrial juggernaut in the history of the world, but also a dynamic middle class that was a golden age in home ownership, education, health, retirement and prosperity. Today the top 1 percent of our richest tax payers pay around 28 percent of our taxes, at the same time garnering 18 percent of our countries total income. Is it a coincidence that a 60 percent drop in taxation over the last fifty years for the wealthiest US citizens has seen an equally huge growth and prosperity decline in the middle class of close to 60 percent? This suggests, and I believe correctly, that in 1945 there was a true sense of need and patriotism amongst our wealthiest, and that higher taxation for the wealthiest benefited all Americans. It needs to be noted that there is a current 15 percent growth per year increase in the number of millionaires, who are able to avoid, through current tax loopholes, paying a proportionate fair share of much needed taxes to support and strengthen our country. It bears great consideration at this time, because the effect of this upon the middle and lower income earners, I suspect to be negative.

Last year over 360,000 of America’s wealthiest citizens moved themselves and their wealth out of the US, choosing to be expatriates. One wonders why? At the rate our wealthiest are leaving, middle and lower income taxes will need to increase considerably just to maintain current status quo, creating both a greater impetus to expatriation and increasing overall poverty in the US.

It seems to me, there is taking place, a very obscene betrayal of the American people, when our president and our government conducts, allows and encourages through flawed taxation, such a vast disparity in wealth that our population bears the negative brunt of such policies, while at the same time our wealthy leaders are talking about patriotism and sacrifice, and shedding the blood of our young men and women in wars of speculation and profit. Over the last fifteen years we have seen the largest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy in our history. Taxing the poor and middle income earners at such an unequal income to tax ratio, to benefit the rich is unacceptable for a nation such as ours. As the wealthiest and most powerful nation on earth, we can and must improve the financial health and well being of all our people through a fair proportionate tax system, dedicated entirely to the welfare of our nation in it’s entirety. We have vast riches in our country that can empower all of us. We are not defined as a country by our dollars, but by the humanity, education, prosperity and health of ALL our people.

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