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War on Iraq

Military Doctors Withholding Treatment from Soldiers with Mental Health Problems

By Maggie Mahar, Health Beat. Posted February 27, 2008.


The military is denying crucial care to soldiers, making them vulnerable on the battlefield.
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Since 9/11, one Army division has spent more time in Iraq than any other group of soldiers: the 10th Mountain Division, based at Fort Drum, New York.

Over the past 6 years and and six months, their 2nd Brigade Combat Team (BCT) has been the most deployed brigade in the army. As of this month, the brigade had completed its fourth tour of Iraq. All in all, the soldiers of BCT have spent 40 months in Iraq.

At what cost? According to a February 13 report issued by the Veterans for America's (VFA) Wounded Warrior Outreach Program, which is dedicated to strengthening the military mental health system, it is not just their bodies that have been maimed and, in some cases, destroyed. Many of these soldiers are suffering from severe mental health problems that have led to suicide attempts as well as spousal abuse and alcoholism.

Meanwhile, the soldiers of the 2nd BCT have been given too little time off in between deployments: In one case they had only six months to mentally "re-set"; following an eight-month tour in Afghanistan -- before beginning a 12-month tour in Iraq.

Then, in April 2007, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates decided to extend Army tours in Iraq from 12 to 15 months -- shortly after the BCT had passed what it assumed was its halfway mark in Iraq.

As the VFA report points out, "Mental health experts have explained that 'shifting the goalposts' on a soldier's deployment period greatly contributes to an increase in mental health problems."

Perhaps it should not come as a surprise that, during its most recent deployment, the 2nd BCT suffered heavy casualties. "Fifty-two members of the 2nd BCT were killed in action (KIA)," the VFA reports and "270 others were listed as non-fatality casualties, while two members of the unit remain missing in action (MIA)."

This level of losses is unusual. "On their most recent deployment," the VFA report notes, "members of the 2nd BCT were more than five times as likely to be killed as others who have been deployed to OEF and OIF and more than four times likely to be wounded." One can only wonder to what degree depression and other mental health problems made them more vulnerable to attack.

When they finally returned to Fort Drum, these soldiers faced winter conditions that the report describes as "dreary, with snow piled high and spring still months away. More than a dozen soldiers reported low morale, frequent DUI arrests, and rising AWOL, spousal abuse, and rates of attempted suicide. Soldiers also reported that given the financial realities of the Army, some of their fellow soldiers had to resort to taking second jobs such as delivering pizzas to supplement their family income."

What has the army done to help the soldiers at Fort Drum? Too little.

In recent months, VFA reports, it has been contacted by a number of soldiers based at Fort Drum who are concerned about their own mental health and the health of other members of their units. In response, VFA launched an investigation of conditions at Fort Drum, and what it found was shocking.

Soldiers told the VFA that "the leader of the mental health treatment clinic at Fort Drum asked soldiers not to discuss their mental health problems with people outside the base. Attempts to keep matters 'in house' foster an atmosphere of secrecy and shame," the report observed "that is not conducive to proper treatment for combat-related mental health injuries."

The investigators also discovered that "some military mental health providers have argued that a number of soldiers fake mental health injuries to increase the likelihood that they will be deemed unfit for combat and/or for further military service."

The report notes that a "conversation with a leading expert in treating combat psychological wounds" confirmed "that some military commanders at Fort Drum doubt the validity of mental health wounds in some soldiers, thereby undermining treatment prescribed by civilian psychiatrists" at the nearby Samaritan Medical Center in Watertown, NY.

"In the estimation of this expert, military commanders have undue influence in the treatment of soldiers with psychological wounds," the report noted. "Another point of general concern for VFA is that Samaritan also has a strong financial incentive to maintain business ties with Fort Drum -- a dynamic [that] deserves greater scrutiny."

Because some soldiers do not trust Samaritan, the report reveals that a number of "soldiers have sought treatment after normal base business hours at a hospital in Syracuse, more than an hour's drive from Watertown ... because they feared that Samaritan would side with base leadership, which had, in some cases, cast doubt on the legitimacy of combat-related mental health wounds.

"In one case," the report continued, "after a suicidal soldier was taken to a Syracuse hospital, he was treated there for a week, indicating that his mental health concerns were legitimate. Unfortunately, mental health officials at Fort Drum had stated that they did not believe this soldier's problems were bona fide."


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Maggie Mahar is a fellow at The Century Foundation and the author of Money-Driven Medicine: The Real Reason Health Care Costs So Much (Harper/Collins 2006).

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Posted by: rwday@cox.net on Feb 27, 2008 3:22 AM   
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This article brings to mind the way shell-shocked soldiers were treated by the British in World War I. I would have thought the government's understanding of the psychological stresses of battle would have evolved somewhat since 1916, but I guess it fits with the Bush administration's general desire to repeal the 20th century, doesn't it?

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Health abuse of military.
Posted by: itchyvet on Feb 27, 2008 4:17 AM   
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What exactly would it take, for Americans in civvie street and in uniform to wake up to what's going on here, and being DELIBERATELY done to them ?
I mean here we are six years after the fact and the US Govt still has no proper armoured vehicles to protect it's troops, and the treatment of troops that need it is Non existant.
C'mon people, why throw your lives away so pointlessly, the Govt doesn't give a stuff about your life or your well being, nor do your so called Officers who are after all, fighting tooth and nail for their promotions and pay rises even if it takes every one of you. DUH ! Talk about dumb.
When I was a young bloke and told I was being sent to Vietnam, my commanding officer told us on parade that HE was going to come back with decorations, even if it took the lives of each and everyone of us.
I was 18 years old at the time, I had signed a contract handing my life for 6 years over to my Govt, foolishly believing it had my interests and my countries interests at heart, it took this officers words to clarify things for me.
I immediately set things in motion to be removed from his authority, the system fouhg tme tooth and nail, but despite their obstinace I won and was tranfered to another Company that had a little more regard for it's men.
The original company/platoon when in Vietnam walked into a minefield and lost 12 dead and 24 wounded, basicaly decimating the platoon of which I once was a member.
So you see folks, despite signing contracts ect, YOU are still in control of your lives, and if your Govt and military officials are not respecting your rights as a human being, then it's up to YOU to do something about it.
Do you have the courage to do so ?
I don't believe too many Americans today, have any courage whatever.

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» You think YOU'VE got problems? Posted by: harryf200
» We are meant to be left defenseless Posted by: Susan Kipping
What about the mental health of our leaders?
Posted by: Urstrly on Feb 27, 2008 5:31 AM   
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It starts at the top,and I think you'd have a hard time proving that Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld was a rational person when this war started, or that they've become so. Getting Rumsfeld out of the Pentagon helped some, but when Republicans start chanting, "the surge is working," you know they're in deep denial.

Why would any soldier choose to go into a battle with uncertain protection and with no end to deployment in sight? At some point,the military conditioning must wear off. Then we get the hard core mercenaries of Blackwater.

My guess is that John McCain has never recovered from the trauma he suffered in Vietnam, and having survived physically, he is not the man we should trust to make decisions about wars. He's still fighting the last one.

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rimchamp77
Posted by: rimchamp77 on Feb 27, 2008 6:36 AM   
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This is nothing new. Soldiers have mourned their loss of humanity in wars for centuries. Self medication after wars' end has been the cause of drug prohibition forever. We blame the victims for not "being man enough" to get on with their lives. Why should the 21st century be any different. Wars are "days of glory" for our nation's leaders and the heroes who are adulated by the masses. It is hell for the many who are wounded and bitter for the loss of their humanity - being force into atrocities that insult their integrity.
This is NOT a unique problem caused by this president. This happened even in the second world war with a despicable enemy and a glorious cause to protect liberty from a real threat to that liberty. And this administration's demonization of soldiers who are wounded and not "macho" enough to support his policies is also not unique. This is a problem with all wars. If a leader was capable of ample amounts of empathy for the soldiers committed to battle - we would have no battles.

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Comment from expert in Army medicine
Posted by: AlterNet Community Moderator on Feb 27, 2008 6:49 AM   
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received via e-mail:

I served as an ARMY doctor at Ft. Drum before the war. The cold winter weather is extremely dreary and probably contributes to soldier depression. The alliance with Samaritan Medical Center has the potential to be "unholy" or corrupt because in Watertown, New York the Fort and the Hospital represent most of the economy. How do you fix that short of "discovering oil" in Watertown and/or removing the profit motive from non-military hospitals?

As far as the ARMY addressing psychiatric issues I honestly believe the ARMY is doing their best to recruit more mental health professionals and to utilize them effectively. The Washington Post who broke the Walter Reed story by Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Dana Priest continues to stimulate the ARMY to do what is right. Senior Mental Health professionals in the ARMY Medical Command are finally being heard as witness the recent emphasis of PTSD, depression and ARMY suicides. One could argue that this is "too little-too late" but I think not. Soldier trust also needs to be rebuilt as your article implies.

The dilemma is that this is a major and huge enterprise to fix and it is not going to happen overnight. But the current leaders I personally believe are listening.

As a physician my heart goes out to all who continue to suffer.

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» RE: AR 1:2: Posted by: Stoney 12+1
Our Veteran health system
Posted by: donl51 on Feb 27, 2008 7:33 AM   
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has pretty much always been lousy,seems to get worse rather than better every year,dealing w/ the physical injury which can be seen seems to do better,someone I used to know used to say,''if you're not bleeding there's nothing wrong with you'' thats about the way our system deals w/it,War is a terrible strain on your mind,some people simply can't mentally handle it and there's nothing wrong w/ that !actually in many cases it's worse than a physical wound ,but then I'm an artist not a shrink,what'll I know?

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Georgie Halibush
Posted by: NamVeT on Feb 27, 2008 8:31 AM   
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"The facts are stark and the facts are real...Our men and women in
uniform love their country more than their comfort. They have never failed
us, and we must not fail them. But the best intentions and the highest
morale are undermined by back-to-back deployments, poor pay, shortages
of spare parts and equipment, and rapidly declining readiness."

"...these are signs of a military in decline and we must do something
about it. The reasons are clear. Lack of equipment and material.
Undermaning of units. Overdeployment. Not enough time for family. Soldiers who
are on food stamps, and soldiers who are poorly housed. Dick Cheney
and I have a simple message today for our men and women in uniform, their
parents, their loved ones, their supporters: Help is on the way!"

"A generation shaped by Vietnam must remember the lessons of Vietnam.
When America uses force in the world, the cause must be just, the goal
must be clear, and the victory must be overwhelming."

"To build morale in today's United States military we must keep faith
with those who have worn the uniform in the past. We must keep faith
with America's veterans. . .And keeping faith also means giving our
veterans first-rate health care and treating the veterans with dignity. . .So
chaotic is the process there is now a backlog of nearly one
half-million claims. This is no way to treat any citizen, much less a veteran of
our armed forces. The veterans health-care system and the claims
process will be modernized, so that claims are handled in a fair and friendly
way."

"In my Administration, the Department of Veterans Affairs will act as
an advocate for veterans seeking benefit claims, not act as an
adversary. Veterans who once stood in the line of fire to protect our freedom
should not have to stand in the line of a bureaucracy that is unwilling
to help them in their claims."

---George W. Bush VFW Speech - August 21, 2000

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» RE: Georgie Halibush Posted by: peacefullaim
You have to lie
Posted by: Arkham42 on Feb 27, 2008 8:45 AM   
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I spent 17.5 years in the Army (1.5 of which was at Fort Drum - the winters do suck) and as a intelligence analyst, I can tell you straight up you have to lie about your mental state if you want to keep your clearance.

While in Afghanistan, I almost had a nervous break down due to a lot of bad decisions made by my officers that severely impacted the operation of my shop. Could I get help? No, because if there is even a whiff of mental illness, your clearance is pulled and you end up being a tower guard.

Even trying to get marital counseling can impact on your clearance. So instead of trying to make sure the keepers of our countries valuable secrets are mentally okay, the Army uses us to destruction.

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» RE: You have to lie Posted by: riri3377@aol.com
» RE: You have to lie Posted by: peacefullaim
Creating the Perfect Storm
Posted by: Marshalldoc on Feb 27, 2008 9:25 AM   
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Our current national policies are driving our armed forces into a perfect storm.

As a retired physician with experiences as a surgical consultant to the naval hospital related to the MCRD Parris Island and in a V.A. hospital I can attest to the military’s preoccupation with delivering the minimum of care necessary to those who need it and of the marked tendency to ‘push overboard’ anyone who is unfit for service. Further, I have experienced the macho military atmosphere that coerces those able to recognize they might benefit from mental health care to forego it and of superiors to either dismiss or deny the reality of both medical and emotional illnesses… “we’re not their mommies”.

As this article so rightly points out, our administration seems to view the military as an nonhuman machine that can function endlessly as long as a certain level of military appropriations (lubrication) are supplied and that the number & quality of recruits and the number of casualties, retirees, and medically discharged are only marginally relevant. Hence, long, re-extended, and rapidly recurrent deployments regardless of the condition of the humans who comprise those military units.

Whether or not the incidence of mental health issues is higher in our current wars is higher than in prior conflicts (WW II, Viet Nam, Korea, etc.) it is clear is that both active duty and discharged military are displaying an inordinately high level of serious mental health problems requiring treatment… up to 30% in many reports. Considering the number of people at risk, the number of people who do, or soon will, require significant mental health intervention is probably well in the hundreds of thousands. Failure to recognize and provide for these injured people will inevitably result in a tsunami of failed relationships & marriages, alcoholism & drug abuse, spousal abuse, homicides, and suicides.

These are not problems that will be adequately treated with easy to prescribe medications that can be overseen by non-professionals as the soldiers at risk are shuffled around the world like checkers. In fact, recent evidence suggests that medical treatments (antidepressants) have been oversold due to drug manufacturer’s dishonest reportage of drug trials (Antidepressant drugs don't work – official study [Tuesday, 26 February 2008, © 2008 Independent News and Media Limited]). The treatment needed most by these patients is long-term therapy provided in a safe environment.

Providing adequate numbers of trained therapists is not possible in weeks, months, or even years. Such training requires time and a sufficient numbers of people committed to such a career. Further, once trained, ethical therapists (never mind trying to supply adequate numbers of M.D. psychiatrists) will likely be unwilling to work within the military framework because the primary goal of military medicine is not to provide top-notch health care to individuals in the military but to provide adequate numbers of sufficiently healthy individuals to the military for it to carry out its mission. Those two goals are frequently in direct competition - particularly regarding mental health care.

Hence, our policies are producing unmanageable numbers of ‘injured’ individuals we are incapable of caring for and will only continue to do so while placing them, their families and loved ones, and society at risk.

The only logical solution is to stop the process of producing such injuries.

Bring the troops home... All of them. Then, devote the money not spent making war on healing the casualties of war.

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Thank you for your candid comments
Posted by: maggiem on Feb 27, 2008 10:20 AM   
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Thank you all for your comments.

In particular, I appreciate the comments from
those who are in the military--you know, better than anyone, how hard it can be for
soldiers to get the care they need. This army
is being treated as if it were an inhuman machine. But in fact, the parts are breaking. And those parts are people.

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no where to hide
Posted by: solrev on Feb 27, 2008 10:36 AM   
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If you have ever been associated with the mental health profession with a chronic problem, then the treatment is simple. Try and determine the dominant symptom, but that is not necessary call it a drug imbalance and get on with the drug therapy. When you find a drug that will keep the patient out of a mental institution, success. I really do not believe that the mental profession in any numbers is capable of treating military mental problems. One’s response to stress in war zone is probably almost individual in its nature. I do not think the mental profession has a clue how to deal with that. Antidepressants may keep them alive if suicidal but beyond that there just is not much help there. The mental profession only comes in contact with these people during wartime blips. There is just little historical documentation. Civilian crazies have been here since there have been civilians they are normal and predictable in numbers within the population. The only solution may be to stay out of wartime blips. Having been in Nam, going back a second time would have been a lot harder than going the first time. I can not imagine looking forward to surviving, until the next time, and having to do that again and again.

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Brothers (and now, sisters) in arms
Posted by: willymack on Feb 27, 2008 10:37 AM   
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First off, I'm a retired Navy man with two combat tours in Viet Nam. That puts me in an advanced age category, and my thinking is old school as I don't think women should be in combat. It's not that I don't think they're quafied for the job, it's just that I don't want to see them killed or maimed. Silly me. Our current "prezdint", doing his best to imitate Caligula has little regard for military personnel and less for military SERVICE as he walked away from his job of protecting golf courses and marinas in Texas from the Viet Cong when it intefered with his playboy lifestyle, knowing full well Poppy would see to it that he would come to no harm for his crime. So, what we have now is an unelected, sorry excuse for a human being in charge of our best and brightest people, and putting them into an untenable, unwinable situation in an illegal "war" and brutal occupation of a helpless Iraq, while pretending to be looking for a phantom menace in Afghanitsan, while getting more wealthy by the day on kickbacks from war profits and the drug trade. Am I wrong about anything here? Did I miss something?

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» No, Willymack, You covered it all! Posted by: Stoney 12+1
More of the same
Posted by: mistery509 on Feb 27, 2008 11:07 AM   
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The people who think McClean should be president want more of the same. More war, more dead soldiers, more lies, less help for the American public, more money to spend for the 100 year war and more of the same government.

There are a lot of sheep in America. Most of them are so uninformed and out of touch that they will vote for anyone with a smile and a so called hero.

You get what you vote for and stop complaining.

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Art imitating life?
Posted by: babs on Feb 27, 2008 1:01 PM   
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I watched "In the Valley of Elah" the other night. It dealt with a very troubled soldier who is murdered when he returns stateside (based on a true story).

The film, written by Paul Haggis ("Crash"), is an indictment of the "cowboy" way of going to war, staying the deadly course, and the dangers posed by untreated, mentally disturbed vets returning from the war on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Like the controversial but excellent "Three Kings" about Gulf War 1, this film went unnoticed by the Academy, yet it is the best anti-war film of the bunch so far.

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whats the fuss about?
Posted by: Doggycuny on Feb 27, 2008 1:36 PM   
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I dunno what the fuss is about? So a few soldiers come back without limbs or with mental health problems: what do you expect? Thats what happens in war. It's not like going to the office!

Soldiers who sign up should prepare themselves mentally for the things that could happen, like losing a limb or a comrade dying, not just complain and whinge about it aftermwards.

And they expect care when they get back! This isn't Europe or some liberal communist country where people look after each other, this is the goddamn US of A! You'd better salute that flag on your front lawn and remember that! When you go to Iraq to lose a limb or lose your marbles or whatever, just take pride in the fact that you're doing Bush's dirty work and get on with it. The reward for a job is to have done it! Now stop complaining about you gay headaches and plastic legs and get back out there and kill some more Muslims for Jesus!

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» RE: whats the fuss about? Posted by: grethart
An Unjustified Basis For War Always Brings About Tragedy, To Really Help We Must Never Support It!
Posted by: sofla100 on Feb 27, 2008 1:55 PM   
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Having worked with the military in the mental health arena, I have a couple of observations:

1. From day one, the Iraq war was a gigantic blunder. It was to be Rumsfeld's "war on the cheap," and consequently enough resources, across the board, were never dedicated to it. Today, it still continues on with no troop drawdown in sight. It is simply not sustainable without "breaking the force," which is exactly what is happening.

2. Military psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers, if in uniform, are up against the overwhelming priorities of the military to return soldiers to battle readiness as quickly as possible. Commanders can pressure doctors; however, commanders themselves are overtaxed and undermanned in a situation such as the Iraq war. Civilian doctors, not in uniform but employed by the military and drawing their salaries accordingly, still face the pressure that this system represents. Even doctors unrelated to the military still have to contend with their patients, who usually must return to the same situations and conditions that led to their "breakdowns" and problems to begin with.

In conclusion, I think mental health professionals, as well as all of us, need to recognize that when war is engaged in "on the cheap," or as an unnecessary war with faulty pretext (so-called WMD's), we all end up suffering. Certainly, however, it is the soldiers and those killed in the war (military and civilian), or impacted by it (families and the wounded), that suffer the most. This then ends with the observation that war should never be engaged in as a result of faulty pretext, or "on the cheap," or for so-called "American interests." War must only be waged then for defensive purposes, to deter an outright attack as an invading force attempts to cross our border into the homeland. Going after others, 10,000 miles away, because we believe they "could" pose a threat or they supposedly sent somebody to attack us (911), is not enough. We should only fight when our lives are directly and positively endangered with an enemy at-hand. To support war for other reasons, be it that we are mental health professionals or just plain citizens, is to lie to ourselves and simply to add to what is ultimately the escalation of destroyed lives and destroyed families as tragedy inevitably unfolds.

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Senate Armed Services Committee Members
Posted by: gazooks on Feb 27, 2008 3:00 PM   
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This is the list of it's current members. Contacting them directly with the same candid information as expressed here will improve their sense of perspective within active committee discussions.

Don't sell the effective merits of your experience and thoughts short in their potential impact on committee discussion and decision making.

DEMOCRATS

Carl Levin (Michigan)
Chairman

Edward M. Kennedy (Massachusetts)
Robert C. Byrd (West Virginia)
Joseph I. Lieberman (Connecticut)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
Daniel K. Akaka (Hawaii)
Bill Nelson (Florida)
E. Benjamin Nelson (Nebraska)
Evan Bayh (Indiana)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (New York)
Mark L. Pryor (Arkansas)
Jim Webb (Virginia)
Claire McCaskill (Missouri)

REPUBLICANS
John McCain (Arizona)
Ranking Member

John W. Warner (Virginia)
James M. Inhofe (Oklahoma)
Jeff Sessions (Alabama)
Susan M. Collins (Maine)
Saxby Chambliss (Georgia)
Lindsey O. Graham (South Carolina)
Elizabeth Dole (North Carolina)
John Cornyn (Texas)
John Thune (South Dakota)
Mel Martinez (Florida)
Roger F. Wicker (Mississippi)

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Horrible, completely horrible.
Posted by: Maiya on Feb 27, 2008 6:12 PM   
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This reminds me of a very sad story I heard about a soldier who reported to a medical officer that he felt under a lot of stress, couldn't sleep, was having nightmares--and just genuinely didn't feel safe to be holding a rifle. His complaints were dismissed, and a few days later he and two others stormed into a civilian home and slaughtered the man inside, then raped his wife and daughters and set the bodies on fire. It could have been prevented if someone had just listened when that soldier had asked for help.

And people wonder why I refuse to enlist! I respect and support the troops to the last man(or woman); it's the Army itself I don't like.

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Volunteer Slave Soldiers
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Feb 27, 2008 6:44 PM   
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If the Pentagon and the Bush Administration are not concerned about the Army going hollow, why should we. The soldiers volunteered and reenlist for more, so what is the problem? The Congress is more than happy to keep funding this war, so what is the problem. We are more worried about the cost of gasoline than the cost in blood for Bush's War. So what is the problem. The soldiers should lead, follow, or get the hell out of the Army, see how easy it is to solve the problem!

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Witch doctors and their "meds" make things worse anyway
Posted by: timemachinist on Feb 27, 2008 9:37 PM   
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"Military Doctors Withholding Treatment from Soldiers with Mental Health Problems"

In some ways this could actually be good. Now if only the so-called doctors outside the military would also stop "treating" mental illness, a lot of people wouldn't be ruined by the dope they call "meds."

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Has NO ONE considered...
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Mar 2, 2008 1:43 AM   
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... that the military is the ONLY force capable of defying Blackwater and InfraGard WHEN martial law is declared over a patently false "National Emergency" when Bush makes himself King of the Theocratic Corporate States of Amerika? But NOT if they're all so screwed up they can't tell Los Angeles from Baghdad. And NOT if every commander of conscience and patriotism has been forced to retire.

And about Congressional caving in - does no one remember the experts who said the only thing the NSA spying and info gathering could possibly be good for is gathering blackmail info?

Ian

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