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War on Iraq

What We Can Do to End the War

By Tara Lohan, AlterNet. Posted October 26, 2007.


With 11 actions planned across the country, the U.S. will show this Saturday that we will not be still or silent until our troops are home. Will you join us?
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The majority of Americans and Iraqis oppose the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq. Polls indicate that 70 percent of Americans are against the war and over 80 percent of Iraqis want coalition troops out of their country. In the four and a half years since the invasion, nearly 4,000 U.S. soldiers have been killed and nearly 30,000 seriously wounded. There have also been an estimated 1 million Iraqi civilians killed and over 4 million have fled for their lives.

The war has racked up a bill of over $600 billion of our taxpayer money and yet left Iraq a country in economic shambles and political unrest, and with a population living in fear of daily violence. (Check out the video to the right.)

For the duration of this war, people in the United States have raised their voice in opposition. They have marched, signed petitions, held vigils and written to their elected officials. But it hasn't been enough. Yet.

This Saturday, Oct. 27, United for Peace and Justice, the largest anti-war coalition in the United States, has organized 11 massive anti-war rallies to take place around the nation. Participating organizations include veterans and military family groups, as well as hundreds of national and local peace groups.

Leslie Cagan, national coordinator of United for Peace and Justice said, "Never before have we seen anything like this. In regional centers throughout the nation people will gather in an expression of the widespread opposition to the war. This war, with its senseless death and destruction in Iraq, is draining our communities as resources we need here at home are squandered every day. It is time to bring our troops home."

Tens of thousands are expected to participate in the coordinated day of opposition to the Bush administration's war in Iraq. The protest will take place in 11 regional centers including New York, Boston, New Orleans, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Jonesborough (TN), Seattle, Salt Lake City, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Orlando. Several other cities are conducting smaller gatherings for those who are unable to travel.

Nancy Lessin, co-founder of Military Families Speak Out, stated, "In the coming weeks, Congress will decide whether or not to continue funding the war in Iraq for another year. Military families and Iraq veterans will participate in the regional demonstrations on Oct. 27 to join people from around the country to remind Congress that funding this war is killing our troops."

The actions are designed to send a message both to the Bush administration and to Congress, said Cagan. They hope to give people a platform to express their opposition to the war in Iraq and to the importance of channeling that money to local communities where health care and education have been cut across the country. It will also be a place to raise awareness to prevent another ill-conceived war, this time with Iran.

"The timing is important," said Cagan. "It has been almost a year since voters said loud and clear that we want this war to end. Everyone saw the midterm elections last year as a mandate to end the war. And it is almost exactly a year until the next election. As we gear up for 2008, we want to be clear that the anti-war movement is not going away and we need to keep putting ourselves out there."

This is no longer Bush's war, said Cagan, but Congress' also since it has had a year to take action.

Organizers of the event hope to not just remind people of the enduring horrors in Iraq but to generate hope and energize people to go back into their communities and keep working at the local level.

Cagan says she understands the frustrations that have come from people who've been marching and opposing this war for years with little positive response from our government. "Some people are fed up with protests but are even more fed up with the war," said Cagan. "We have few vehicles to express our opposition, and we need to use every one we have. We'll never know the lives we may have saved or the destruction we may have prevented that resulted from our previous anti-war protests. But I do know that the minute we stop, things will get worse."

Even if you've marched before -- even if you've marched 20 times since March 2003, it is still important to get out there on Oct. 27 and let our elected officials and the entire world know that our country wants our troops out of Iraq.

"Being a visible, public, bold movement does have an impact on policymakers," said Cagan. "And it will ripple across the country and get more people engaged in a whole range of activities."

For more information about the Oct. 27 actions, visit Oct.27.org or United for Peace, and check out the video to the right.

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Tara Lohan is a managing editor at AlterNet.

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Very Easy
Posted by: chomsky on Oct 26, 2007 2:21 AM   
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The US is a democracy, right?

Democracy:
a: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.


So, it is very easy. If a majority of the population wants the war to end, the president will end the war. Unless...

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» RE: Very Easy Posted by: donl51
» not a democracy Posted by: Iconoclast421
» Restore the Republic Posted by: matti
don't give up
Posted by: peacebunnie on Oct 26, 2007 4:34 AM   
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At a meeting in preparation for Saturday's rally, I heard someone say "it's time" to get out there and protest. This person is participating in their first anti-war protest. That tells me that there are people who haven't been motivated until now to get out there and say no to war.

Those who have been protesting, marching, and writing letters for years should realize that, every day, our actions may be encouraging one more person to take the risk (and it is a big risk to some who have never been involved) and speak out publicly against the war.

That's what I think of when I hold a candle or a sign on yet another cold or wet street corner. Or when I write yet another letter to Congresspersons who don't seem to be listening. I hope that one more American citizen is being moved to action and dissent. It's frustrating and so slow, but it's the only way to move towards peace and justice.

If you were thinking tomorrow, Oct. 27, is just another rally that will fall on deaf ears -- don't. Don't give up now -- grab a cup of coffee, put on your favorite rabble-rousing music, whatever it takes to get you ready to be out there tomorrow!! See you on the streets!

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I'm pointing a finger at you. guess which one . . .
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Oct 26, 2007 4:41 AM   
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"Under the influence of politicians, masses of people tend to ascribe the responsibility for wars to those who wield power at any given time. In World War I it was the munitions industrialists; in World War II it was the psychopathic generals who were said to be guilty. This is passing the buck.

The responsibility for wars falls solely upon the shoulders of these same masses of people, for they have all the necessary means to avert war in their own hands. In part by their apathy, in part by their passivity, and in part actively, these same masses of people make possible the catastrophes under which they themselves suffer more than anyone else. To stress this guilt on the part of the masses of people, to hold them solely responsible, means to take them seriously. On the other hand, to commiserate masses of people as victims, means to treat them as small, helpless children. The former is the attitude held by genuine freedom fighters; the latter that attitude held by power-thirsty politicians." : Wilhelm Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism

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» SILENCE is COMPLICITY! Posted by: wawa
Orlando
Posted by: wawa on Oct 26, 2007 5:28 AM   
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Anybody out there besides me going to be in the streets of Orlando tomorrow?

I reported on the DC March of Jan. 27th-it was published by OPED and People's Voice -

I reported as accurately as humanely possible and UPJ estimated that we were 1/2 a million strong that day-and it sure felt and looked like it!

The NY TIMES buried their report on page 26!

NO MSM that I am aware of even bothered to turn out for the June 10th D.C. March against the 40 years of Occupation of Palestine.

Occupation is wrong in Iraq and the Holy Land.

MAJOR problem for we the people for justice and peace is that Congress is also under occupation-


OVER 3.25 million dollars were received by congressional reps from pro-Israel PAC donors for the 2005-2006 cycle.

This member of the New Fourth Estate; Internet Journalists who do not take assignments from editors or paychecks from conglomerates will be in the streets of Orlando tomorrow and report as accurately as humanely possible by Sunday AM.



e
http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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» RE: Orlando Posted by: carriejean
» RE: Orlando Posted by: MBFLA
» RE: Orlando Posted by: FAITHCARR
Remember what John Lennon said
Posted by: wawa on Oct 26, 2007 5:53 AM   
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"...Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends...I believe that as soon as people want peace in the world they can have it. The only trouble is they are not aware they can get it.-John Lennon

We the people need to WAKE UP and DO SOMETHING for Big Brother has lost all signs of COMMON SENSE!



Only when enough of we the people rise up in solidarity and demand justice and peace,

Will Big Brother give in, for all politicians really want is to get and hold onto power;

Only in Solidarity do "We have it in our power to begin the world again"-Tom Paine


"Soon after I had published the pamphlet "Common Sense" [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion... The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."-Tom Paine

On with THAT REVOLUTION!

e
http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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Actual news story
Posted by: pammers on Oct 26, 2007 7:00 AM   
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This story is the most comical evidence of the surge's success. The anti-war McClathy Newspapers wire last Tuesday, "As violence falls in Iraq, cemetary workers feel the pinch."

A loss of income for cemetary workers due to a decline in violence! Clearly an injustice for the Democratic Congress to address.

You can't make this make this up.

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» channeling george bush again, are we? Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
On another note, do you know your leaders?
Posted by: pammers on Oct 26, 2007 7:10 AM   
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This article mentions Leslie Cagan of United for Peace and Justice. It's amazing what you find if you do a word search using her name and the word "communist".
Then there is Medea Benjamin of CodePink.
Don't forget Sunsara Taylor of WCW.

All these leaders of the prominent anti-war movement groups have a much larger agenda than USA out of Iraq. It is to overthrow democracy in this country. Yea the war is very unpopular, but I think the naive out there should know the whole story.

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» Do we know you? Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming
» Plus, it's perfectly irrelevant Posted by: Joshua Holland
» I know Medea Benjamin Posted by: Rune
What good will . . .
Posted by: covalentbonded on Oct 26, 2007 7:23 AM   
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it do? One day on the street. 1 million on the street. The next day it is business as usual. There is only one way to end this nonsense and it isn't by electing "opposition" candidates to office. We have been betrayed because the opposition gets a "come to Jesus" moment when Bush/Cheney/Pelosi/Reid explain to them that they are really only the other wing of the National WarParty. Not all but certainly enough.

The way to stop this is to Strike/Boycott 08. Strike at your work place and at the malls. That shuts the flow of money down. Strike in public places, be visible, be active in a direct, non-violent way. Boycott this sham electoral process which is corrupt to the core. Start on 10/10/08.

Panic sets into the "market" when consumers refuse to consume. When workers refuse to work the effect is compounded.

Let the Clinton/whoever race be conducted as the world watches significant numbers of people refuse to play along.

The thing I don't get is: Why do all these organizations that constantly bombard me with pleas for cash refuse to discuss this idea with me?

We have the power under the Constitution, we have the rationale (refusal to consent to be governed by the corrupt), and we have the tactics/strategy forged in the heat of the Jim Crow south (King) and the dusty streets of India and South Africa (Ghandi). We have the moral obligation to the world which is "either with us or against us" in opposing US Pax Americana. Do we have the will? That is the only relevant question.

Think about it.

covalentbonded@yahoo.com

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» RE: What good will . . . Posted by: tenzing
I fully support the protest actions, but...
Posted by: antiapathy on Oct 26, 2007 7:31 AM   
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They are not enough. most of the apathetic masses who see the protesters might agree with them, but they won't do anything about it. And the politicians sure as hell don't give a damn. The Dems have had several chances to deny Bush any more funding for the occupation, and they have folded faster than Superman on laundry day. They were swept into power by a movement of millions of citizens fed up with this goddamn war, but when push comes to shove they have no spine. And things won't improve when Hillary or Barack take office. They have essentially promised to keep troops in Iraq through 2013.

No, this polite marching, chanting, and sign-waving won't have much of an impact. We need to step it up. We need to make civil disobedience something we all aspire to. Occupy your senator's office. Turn the water fountains into fountains of blood. put up signs calling out Bush, Cheney, and your pro-war congressman as war criminals. There are so many little creative things we can do to let the world know this occupation must end.

I strongly encourage everyone to protest on Saturday. I'll be at my local event. But after this weekend, as the media and politicians continue to ignore us, we need to step it up.

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Change is easy
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 26, 2007 7:58 AM   
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I've always stood against war and killing. If we want wars stopped we must be together in denouncing these practices.
I'm running as a 'draft me' candidate. If you want to know what I believe and fell we should be doing check out;
www.myspace.com/jeffrey7, read the blogs,
It's time to take out the trash in DC. No impeachment, just plain arrest and sent to guantanimo.
Draft Jeffrey7 for Prez '08

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Active Deterrence
Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Oct 26, 2007 8:26 AM   
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Coincidentally, I just saw a bright-faced female newscaster talk about the new crowd-control weapon that's going to Iraq (first, anyway): that totally kewl laser device that creates an intolerable burning sensation on the skin.

There was an almost comical video of people in a field running forward, then stopping and and reversing, while the newscaster (in the same cheery tone that she might use to describe, say, a new wing of the children's hospital) chirped that the device would cause "a stinging sensation."

When I think of a stinging sensation I think of what you get when you put alcohol on a paper cut.

She did say rather baldly that it would be used "to disperse protestors." As we all know, protestors are just one banner-wave away from rank terrorists.

I'm going to Chicago . . . who knows, maybe I'll get my first taste of taser and plastic handcuffs.

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» RE: Active Deterrence Posted by: awed_n_shocked
What You Can Do to End the War
Posted by: AussieGeoff on Oct 26, 2007 10:04 AM   
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Nothing, your politicians are not listening, and never have listened, to you.

But help is on hand. When wannabe emperor georgy attacks Iran; Iran, China and Russia will solve your problems for you. Your economy will turn to instant shit, your military will be forceably removed from Iraq, your currency will become worthless, your society, such as it is, will be destroyed and all the chickens you have carefully nurtured over the decades of attempted imperialism will home to roost, if you get real lucky Iran will look after Blackwater and the other "security contractors" for you, otherwise you will get them back to assist in maintaining law and order in Unified Serfdom of Amerika.

Then, and only then you may eventually work up the anger to take action to clean up what's left of the once great United States of America

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» cassandra Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» RE: What You Can Do to End the War Posted by: AussieGeoff
I LIVE IN WAUSAU WI
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Oct 26, 2007 10:37 AM   
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The two tv stations here are:
WAOW TV
WSAW TV

Neither one of these corporate ass kissers has anythihng whatsoever on their websites about tomorrow.
I have written to them in the past about national news and have gotten rebuffed with a BS excuse.
It is absolutely disgusting to have the local television industry hide these things from us.
I wrote to them.
I'll post the BS reply when I get it.

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Protest is good, but the Congress and the President answer to Wall Street.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Oct 26, 2007 11:02 AM   
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That's where the protests should really be concentrated. A serious effort to shut down Wall Street was made during the Vietnam War - and if you want to see effective protest, that's what needs to happen.

You can also get rid of your corrupt local politicians far more easily than you can get rid of your corrupt senators. The tentacles of the conglomerated corporate octopus reach into every single city and county in the country. Take your money out of Bank of America and put it in a locally owned bank or credit union. Quit shopping at WalMarts, CostCo, etc. and buy local.

Recall the massive protests against the invasion of Iraq in 2003? They didn't have any effect - because the consolidated corporate media was a) pimping the war as hard as they could on the orders of their Wall Street masters, and b) they gave negative and limited coverage to the protests.

So, yes, go out an protest - but you'll have to shut down the business sector to get a response, and that response might very well be an armed assault by police aided by undercover cops in protest drag, as was the case in Seattle in 1999:

"The protests against the World Trade Organization that rocked Seattle, Washington in late 1999 were an incredibly significant moment in the history of popular protests. Not only did the protestors succeed in disrupting the meetings of the world's most influential trade-governing bodies, but the event drew together incredibly diverse constituencies that represented a wide range of interests, many of which would seem to be incompatible at first light."

Note that - diverse constituents cooperated. Today, that means labor unions, war veterans, and everyone. There's no time to pay attention to lunatics like the 911 Truth Movement or to other COINTELPRO disruptive programs.

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Is the free press dead?
Posted by: willymack on Oct 26, 2007 11:06 AM   
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Appears so, except for sites like this. I guess the heavy hand of oppression through ridicule and "conversion" hasn't happened here yet because the powers that be don't see a threat from this direction. Or maybe they do, and they'll hit us when we least expect it.

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Deeper understanding, new strategies needed to end the war(s)
Posted by: jcrw on Oct 26, 2007 12:00 PM   
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To have yet another anti-war demonstration, pleading the same message to the same gang of corporate funded rulers(Democrats and Republicans), will ultimately be counterproductive.

The "demands" of these demonstrations have not changed over the years. Most Americans already oppose Bush and are against the war. Massive demonstrations that appeal to the ruling powers have not meant anything to the incumbent politicians.

A new political understanding is desperately needed!
Please read this vital global perspecive from Australia:
How to fight militarism and war....

From such a new global perspective and a new understanding, new strategies and tactics must emerge.

A New Tactic needed: a new political party

We need to dump the Democrats, now completely supported by corporate interests and agendas.

We need a new political party, independent of the Democrats, not funded by corporate money, with a membership created from the membership of thousands of "single issue groups" and involving millions of people. Today people opposed to the status quo organize and join single-issue protest groups. Millions are opposed to war, global warming, lack of health care, living wage jobs, etc. A socialist party in support of human and economic rights for all working people regardless of race or immigration status is desperately needed.

Pleading, begging, petitioning, protesting to somehow get a few crumbs of charity has not worked. Reforming this corporatist-fascist gang is impossible.

To read more of a new alternative, please check out
the World Socialist Web Site

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FOCUS this time??
Posted by: wheresarah on Oct 26, 2007 12:15 PM   
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I remember watching the live coverage of the protests in DC a couple years ago on CSPAN. I am always glad that peaceful protesters get off their butts and do what they can, but please can we have a little bit of focus on JUST THE WAR ISSUE this time? The IRAQ war I mean.

There was every left wing issue under the sun being brought up... and while I support probably all of them, I think it just makes us look like unorganized freaks sometimes. JUST THE WAR. Leave Tibet out, I'm sorry, leave feminist causes out, I'm sorry, leave legalization of marijuana out, I'm sorry...

JUST THE WAR PROTESTED THIS TIME... PLEASE!! Don't you want us to be taken seriously??

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» RE: FOCUS this time?? Posted by: jcrw
More "kumbaya", feel good, you get an "A" for effort now back to "Dancing With The Stars" crap
Posted by: MAD on Oct 26, 2007 1:20 PM   
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So get on out there and make absolutely no difference whatsoever. March with like-minded individuals who think they're accomplishing much by risking virtually NOTHING. Scream 'til you're blue in the face and demand a withdrawal from Iraq. Be sure to do so in a peaceful and pacifistic manner as that is always the best tactic and one the government respects enormously.

How many of these Lilith Fairs will you endure before finally getting the message that there is no future in peaceful manifestations?

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Solution That Will wake A Few up
Posted by: Candleinheart on Oct 26, 2007 2:48 PM   
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All US Citizens do not pay taxes this April. Someone start a movement. Yes, we can stop shopping at Wal-Mart, Sams, change banks, etc. But, unfortunately many will not. Was it 15 million around the world marched against the invasion. No one listened. I wrote Senator Clinton, said, "We do this and we will open a can of worms we cannot fathom now." No answer. Cindy Sheehan has been completely brave and courageous and her efforts ? Amazing woman. Nothing. Marches. Nothing. I've signed um-teen petitions, written 7 letters to my counties newspapers, written Schummer, Clinton, just e-mail form letters come back. Nothing changes. We voted Dems in and that vote signaled CHANGE! Nothing happened. Thousands of great articles written on webs. nothing changed. I read well over two years ago the Pentagon was already prepared, at the sign of the president, to attack Iran. They are hell bent on conquering the Middle East and control the oil. A 598 million dollar embassy being built said to be larger than the Vatican! Can be seen from outer space! Another military base being built. Can't you see it? They're not going to stop or bring them home! I've pondered for years, if Congress won't stop the funding, then we can. No taxes paid next year. Zilch. Zero! Would you all do it? That would be a message. there are two people who have plans for us, who have solutions, who know how to stop this horror, who will be sparks for good: Kucinich, Gravel. These two hopefully would get Edwards, Robinson on their team somewhere. As stated on this board, Cinton and Obama will have us over there and are 'politics as usual', along with the others except Ron Paul, Lou Dobbs. Giuliano? A Bush clone. Huckabee, and Paul the only REAL GOP candidates.

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Baghdad Peace March
Posted by: Irap14 on Oct 26, 2007 9:07 PM   
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Attention all true Progressive brothers and sisters. Their will be a Peace March held in Baghdad on December 24, 2007. As you know, the LIAR Bush administration has been trying to use fear tactics and lying to the public about so called" terrorists " in Iraq to scare everybody. So to prove what a LIAR Bush is, we will be having the first ever " Progressive Peace March " in the middle of Baghdad. The march will begin on Sadam was a saint Blvd. at six a.m., just after morning prayer. We will march north to Sunnis Love Peace Ave. where we will have a performance by Man2Man gay choir where they will express themselves freely and sings songs. Our final stop will be at the Shiites Are Gentle intersection for noon prayer. Immediately following noon prayer, Planned Parenthood will be performing an actual partial birth abortion, to alleviate any pre conceived notions they may have about giving their wives a choice. We are expecting a wonderfully warm welcome from the Innocent Iraqi People. NOTICE: MILITARY PERSONS ARE NOT INVITED!!! But you may view the festivities from the Green Zone.

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» RE: Baghdad Peace March Posted by: worldwide65
» RE: Baghdad Peace March Posted by: aka_bozo
First we need a draft to wake up the sleeping assholes in this country-
Posted by: Ellie1 on Oct 27, 2007 6:39 AM   
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then it is simple-1. impeach 2. indite 3. imprison 4. execute

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Out of Iraq
Posted by: kjg25171 on Oct 27, 2007 12:55 PM   
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If we really want out of Iraq why are so many supporting Hillary Clinton?

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» RE: Out of Iraq Posted by: aka_bozo
» RE: Out of Iraq Posted by: richholland
4:24 pm PDT...
Posted by: aka_bozo on Oct 27, 2007 4:28 PM   
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Still nothing on the liberal dominated media about the massive wide-spread anti-war demonstrations sweeping across the US. An obvious conspiracy by the right-wing dominated media.

Demonstrators occupied the White House after a fierce gun-battle with Dick “The Dick” Cheney. Luckily, he was only able to wing one of his secret service agents.

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I find the celebratory/self-congratulatory and festive nature of US protests to be disgusting.
Posted by: nihilozero on Oct 27, 2007 5:31 PM   
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I imagine the anti-war protests in Iraq are far more somber.

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» Your slapdash use... Posted by: matti
» RE: Your slapdash use... Posted by: aka_bozo
» RE: Your slapdash use... Posted by: nihilozero
8:42 pm PDT and...
Posted by: aka_bozo on Oct 27, 2007 8:47 PM   
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Still nothing from the liberal dominated media about the AMAZINGLY MASSIVE wide-spread anti-war demonstrations sweeping across the US. An obvious conspiracy by the right-wing dominated media.

Demonstrators occupied the White House after a fierce gun-battle with Dick “The Dick” Cheney, who is still hold-up in a closet with a shot-gun and an undermined amount of ammo. His last comments were, “Come and get me coppers...", but this cannot be either confirmed or denied.

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Did mr Bush and mr Cheney...
Posted by: richholland on Oct 28, 2007 4:02 AM   
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see the movie Äpocalypto Now"???? Price winning films by Frances Coppello
In 1954 the Vietnamwar was OVER.......... Then the USA came in and were keeping it for another 20 years.
How could a democrazy like USA still spent the money of the workers for so many years???

What was the plan in IRAQ?? Demonstration will change nothing, only if the attitude and believes change...
Mr.Perle and mr Bush know the situation in Israel/Palestina, why repeat everything again?????
why protest now, you know Hilary/Bill Clinton and friends will continue this war.

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Posted by: D.T. on Oct 29, 2007 10:55 AM   
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I first read about this on WWW.GLOBALGRIND.COM and its crazy. This is something that a lot of us expected what happened, but with the craziness of 9/11 people opted for war, which is exactly what Bush wanted to happen. Everything is so expensive in this country that the majority of people are focusing on the war, unless the know someone who is in it, because they are too busy trying to make ends meet. Back in the day people had time to be more proactive and take actions into their own hands, but society has warped us into working 8 hour days, and often that is the minimum amount. Little do people realize that we actually are spending $8,000 per person on this war, and losing so many people, friends, family, citizens. Even as I write about it, and even as much as I am educated and against the war, I know that I too find it hard to get the extra time to protest. Our society is withering away, and we are becoming a bunch of working zombies.

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