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War on Iraq

Neocons Embrace Islamic Terror Group

By Danny Postel, TomPaine.com. Posted October 23, 2007.


Daniel Pipes, one of America's premiere Islamophobes, has a soft spot for one deadly deadly Islamic terrorist organization.
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During the week of October 22-26, an official announcement effuses, "The nation will be rocked by the biggest conservative campus protest ever - Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, a wake-up call for Americans on 200 university and college campuses." Ringmastered by David Horowitz, this circus will be performing under the tent of something called the "Terrorism Awareness Project."

The purpose of this ballyhoolooza, we are told, is to confront the "Big Lies" of the Left regarding terrorism and militant Islam. Worthy subjects, to be sure. Indeed I would like to help the sponsors of the "wake-up call" promote awareness of them. Toward this end, let's consider the American Right's "special relationship" with one group of terrorists.

The U.S. State Department officially considers the Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK) a Foreign Terrorist Organization. While those honors date back to 1994, they've been renewed during the Bush years. Indeed in 2003 Foggy Bottom went further, including the National Council of Resistance of Iran -- an MEK alias -- under the terrorist designation. (The MEK is also known as the People's Mujahedeen.)

To make a long and bizarre story short, the MEK got its start in early 1960s Iran, helped overthrow the Shah in 1979, but quickly turned on the revolutionary government it helped bring to power. Employing an ideological blend of Stalinism and Islamism, the tactics of a paramilitary guerilla faction, and the organizational structure of a cult, the group went into exile, eventually making their home in Iraq in the mid-1980s. Not only did Saddam give the organization cover: he armed, funded, and utilized them for a variety of ends over two decades.

The group's wicked political brew was on spectacular display on the old MEK flag (since abandoned), with its sickle and Kalashnikov positioned beneath a Koranic verse. (Not -- to state the obvious -- that the mere presence of a Koranic verse in and of itself implies Islamist political commitments, but in this case the shoe very much fits.)

Here you have virtually everything the Right claims to oppose all rolled into one: Islamism, Marxism, terrorism, and Saddam. Naturally, then, neoconservatives would utterly deplore the MEK and everything it stands for, right? The MEK would in fact make an ideal target for Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week and Terrorism Awareness efforts, no?

Well, no. At least one of the carnival's acts, it turns out, is rather fond of the Islamo-Stalinist-terrorist cult group, and has repeatedly argued for the removal of the MEK from the State Department's list of terrorist groups and indeed urged the U.S. government to embrace it. Daniel Pipes, who will be speaking at Tufts on October 24th as part of the Horowitz high jinks, has made the MEK a recurring theme in his writings going back several years: here, here, and here.


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Danny Postel is the author of Reading "Legitimation Crisis" in Tehran: Iran and the Future of Liberalism, and is co-coordinator of the Committee for Academic and Intellectual Freedom of the International Society for Iranian Studies.

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My biggest fear...
Posted by: Crazy H on Oct 23, 2007 12:50 PM   
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... is that the Christian Extremists will one day wake up and realize that they have more in common with the Islamic Extremists than they do with True Americans. When that happens, Life As We Know It is doomed.

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» What's a true American? Posted by: arshi
» RE: My biggest fear... Posted by: pepsiholic
» RE: My biggest fear... Posted by: nightgaunt
Wrong on the MEK
Posted by: shahab312 on Oct 24, 2007 6:24 AM   
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With all do respect, I must say that the author is absolutely false in his tirade against the MEK and the National Council of Resistance of Iran(NCRI). The MEK is the largest member of the NCRI, an umbrella group of organizations and personalities fighting the terrorist mullahs in Iran. The NCRI consists of ethnic and religious minorities, as well as different political groups with varying ideologies. It is a democratic parliament in exile.

The MEK sits on the terror list not because it is a terror organization but because they have been used as a bargaining chip in the State Department and EU's Chamberlainesque policy of appeasing Tehran's mullahs. A policy that has miserably failed to pacify a rogue regime working dilligently to establish a fundamentalist caliphate in the Middle East.

After the fall of Saddam, the DIA, CIA, FBI, and State Department conducted a 16 month investigation of MEK members in Iraq and concluded that there were no grounds for charging any members of terrorism. (see New York Times, July 27, 2004
U.S. Sees No Basis to Prosecute Iranian Opposition 'Terror' Group Being Held in Iraq
By DOUGLAS JEHL)

It is unfortunate that the author, so blinded by his hatred of the Bush Administrationa and neo-cons, has chosen to repeat the propoganda of the Iranian regime when describing Iran's most popular, formidable, democractic and secular resistance movement-the MEK.

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» Sorry, that's the way... Posted by: worldwide65
» Oh the state departments lying too! Posted by: CrossDressingNazi
» You are wrong, actually Posted by: arshi
» RE: You are wrong, actually Posted by: pepsiholic
» RE: By the most general defintion... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Disagree Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Disagree Posted by: KUCING
» RE: Disagree Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Bingo! Posted by: hagwind
» RE: Disagree Posted by: hagwind
» RE: Wrong on the MEK, Posted by: Turkiye
» Actually, They are All Wrong... Posted by: Tim Brown
» Then whats this! Posted by: CrossDressingNazi
» RE: Wrong on the MEK Posted by: srjmsbnd
1979 Shah overthrown
Posted by: donl51 on Oct 25, 2007 12:45 PM   
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History 101 again USA that's us !put the shah in charge of IRAN,because he was anti-commie,ok,Shah was corrupt thats ok by us, Shah is terribly cruel to his people thats ok [worse than hussein] by us, people under religious leadership get rid of Shah who steals lots of IRANY monies this all not ok byus. pissed off IRANIES take anger out on Americans still in IRAN so we call IRAN terroristnation, ....so much for human rights this country always pushes,give me a break!

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» RE: 1979 Shah overthrown Posted by: pepsiholic
» RE: 1979 Shah overthrown Posted by: mdruss42
» RE: 1979 Shah overthrown Posted by: srjmsbnd
The neocons and Poppy Bush's CIA INVENTED "Islamic" terrorism...
Posted by: xbj on Oct 27, 2007 2:07 AM   
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Are you kidding? They took a fringe movement of a handful of people out of their minds with understandable, if not justifiable revenge, and hired the Saudis (against their own self-interest) to fund Madrassas so that there would be an endless supply of patsies and converts for the new movement and marshalled Osama who'd been a CIA asset for decades to run the entire operation. And take the fall for 9-11 as he was almost dead anyway, (but could live forever as a bogeyman-legend, Orwell's Emmanuel Goldstein in real life, from the grave), and made sure his family was well paid off for the service he supplied to the real perps of 9-11.

Islamic terrorism is the biggest con of all time, run to foster the biggest scam of all time, US Christianist-Zionist-Fascist Mideast oil and power expansion. First Iraq, then Iran, then Syria, then Sauid Arabia, and last but not least, Israel. The Precious.

Collaborators only die last. A lesson you'd think Israel would have learned the hard way.

But no.

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Two Sides of the Same Coin
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Oct 27, 2007 3:11 AM   
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The Christian theo-neocon fascists and the Islamofascists definitely are two sides of the same counterfeit coin. They promote intolerance, bigotry, misogyny, child abuse, ignorance, anti-science, conflict, violence and oligarchy. To a large extent they feed off each other and need each other, as the ultimate conflict is not between Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, non-theists and others, but between the decent, moderate majority within each faith and the extremists who are bringing so much misery to the world.

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» RE: Two Sides of the Same Coin Posted by: Sparks56
» RE: Two Sides of the Same Coin Posted by: pepsiholic
» RE: Two Sides of the Same Coin Posted by: srjmsbnd
Enlist!
Posted by: Sparks56 on Oct 27, 2007 3:33 AM   
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It seems appropriate that at these college rallies boosting awareness of so-called "Islamo-facsism" that a bus be made available to bring these young supporters of the so-called "War on Terrorism" down to the local Armed Forces recruiting office.

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» RE: nlist! Posted by: pepsiholic
» RE: nlist! Posted by: allevin
» RE: ENLIST IF YOU WANT Posted by: Turkiye
» RE: ENLIST IF YOU WANT Posted by: Sparks56
Israeli's and the Israel lobby are destroying our country
Posted by: arshi on Oct 27, 2007 5:38 AM   
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Until a majority of Americans wake up to understand just how decietful and destructive the Israeli's are, and how it's huge American based Israel Lobby has been laundering billions of dollars of US taxpayer money to Israel, and influecning US politicians to support Israels free-ride genocide of the Palestinians: until the Americas, of whci at least 95% are non-Jewish wakes up to smell this massive fraud that says Israel is our ally, or Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East (it is neither) then major league assholes like Horovitz, Pipes, Alan Doochawitz, William Crystal and the whole criminal bucnh of them will conitnue to keep America at war in Iraq and maybe Iran, just as the Israelis have been warring against the Palestinians and Lebanese for 36 years. To hell with and the Israel Lobby. Bring real Americans back into American Foreign Policy.

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» RE: Sure are some racists Posted by: Jbuuty
» RE: Sure are some racists Posted by: allevin
Need to re-read Said
Posted by: Jbuuty on Oct 27, 2007 5:44 AM   
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On both the right and the left, debate still seems to go along essentialist lines. From the right it is: Islam produces terrorists, or even more absurdly Islam commits terrorist attacks. From the left it is often: religion in general produces extremists; religion is dangerous. In neither case is history taken seriously.

Both Christians and Muslims (as well as Hindus, Buddhists and Atheists) have been advocates for peace and non-violence. There are resources within all of these traditions for the promotion of understanding and peace between people.

Of course Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists and so forth have started wars and committed acts of violence. Some of the worst violence in history has been committed by the non-religious, e.g., Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler.

In the end all religions and philosophies are ideas. They don't do anything.

For analytical purposes, and for looking toward solutions, we need to get back to insights of people like Edward Said in his book "Orientalism". The solutions will not be found in essentialist prejudices, but in the historical realities of people.

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» RE: Need to re-read Said Posted by: nightgaunt
Zonah
Posted by: Netanya3 on Oct 27, 2007 5:59 AM   
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I think it is absolutely disgusting the way David Horowitz is shouted down, not allowed to speak when these stupid hate mongers who admire Islamic terrorism say they are for free speech. Horowitz is an intelligent, practical and rational person, and they can't stand for this. He has as much right as they do to speak, especially when he is invited to be lecturer.

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» RE: Zonah Posted by: Gisele
» RE: Zonah Posted by: Netanya3
» RE: Zonah Posted by: pepsiholic
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» Let me remind you... Posted by: sausage
» RE: Let me remind you... Posted by: Netanya3
» Must have struck a nerve Posted by: sausage
» RE: Let me remind you... Posted by: oppo
» RE: Zonah Posted by: Jbuuty
» Islamic Terrorism Posted by: Netanya3
» Lies and half-truths Posted by: Jbuuty
» RE: Zonah Posted by: KUCING
Horowitz
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Oct 27, 2007 8:47 AM   
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I've seen Horowitz's web site, it has this horrible Flash slideshow called What Really Happened In The Middle East. A seven year old kid could have done a better job.

Then of course there is his Islamo-Facism Petition and links to his campaign to bring freedom of thought to American campuses. It's funny, because I thought freedom of expression meant being able to say what you think, apparently we have had it wrong all these years.

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Peoples' Mujahadeen in Iran Forged in the Fires Islamist Reaction
Posted by: waterislifeaguaesvida on Oct 27, 2007 8:56 AM   
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The Peoples' Mujahadeen of Iran (PMOI, what the author refers to as MEK) is not about Daniel Pipes. It is a long-standing resistance movement that has doen many things that many people don't agree with. It has played a role in repression of Kurds and supporting Saddam Hussein.

PMOI formed out of the reactionary consolidation of power of the Islamic Revolution and the Ayatollah's attacks on progressive and revolutionary secularists and socialists within the struggle. The leadership is dedicated to revolutionary change of the Islamic Republic of Iran. It has gotten support from different places at different times. This support has often been tied to their role in the region regarding such disputes as between Iran and Iraq and the Kurds and Iraq and now the US and Iran. This does not define their character as anything other then lacking real political leasership with a long range strategy.

PMOI is opposed to US intervention and has support within the EU to change its status as a terrorist organization, the PKK has the same designation and the same complaint about it. Resistance by Iranians to the Islamists is NOT reactionary because George W. Bush wants to invade Iran. Popular resistance to reactionary regimes will take place in many countries. PMOI is NOT Islamist, it has long been an organization that has built mass struggle and supported democratic rights within Iran and it has utilized Marxist rhetoric more or less at different times. Many of the people who joined it after the Iranian Revolution were leftists who had helped to overthrow the shah. The rhetoric and programme was based on the concrete struggles against the repression of Ayatollah Khomeini. Neither the PMOI nor the PKK are Islamist and represent distinct political programmes within their respective fields of battle. But this is already well-known and in the case of the writer here appears to be manipulation to promote repression of the PMOI. Opposing US invasion of Iran should in no way obscure the repressive character of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Mass resistance to such regimes is in the peoples' long-term interest.

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after reading many of the arguments...
Posted by: tribalogical on Oct 27, 2007 10:47 AM   
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"The enemy of my enemy is my friend..."?

It is Machiavellian thinking like this, perpetuated endlessly, that gives rise to so many of our woes in this world. What then, when the "enemy of my enemy", looked at more carefully, should also be my (or any one else's) enemy?

Make a deal with devils now... and why? Because we can use them, and they're the convenient 'enemy of my enemy'... if they become a problem later, we'll "deal with them" then....

Sound familiar? Examples applied elsewhere: Noriega, Bin Laden, Saddam... the list is endless... people who were "on our side" at one time... or at least engaged as 'friends of convenience'. (In the 60s, they were called "Friends of Democracy". Hah!)

It goes on endlessly. That "exile", Chalabi, that we were going to install in power in Iraq after Saddam was deposed? Turned out to be quite the scoundrel. Or, wasn't as amenable to being controlled as we liked, so he had to go? One never knows which of those truths might be true...

What has happened to humanity? What drives the policy of man? How have we come to such a low state that we can't simply listen, discuss, consider and accommodate the needs of all, ourselves included!

Back on topic, let's go straight to the first question: Who funds the MEK, and why?

Other questions that need answering: What is their agenda? Within what moral and ethical guidelines do they operate? Do they/have they killed children and other innocents? With what excuses?

I'm tired of excuses, rationales, the "rhyme and reason of slaughter"... Let us lead by example. End these wild conflagrations of death and despair we are embroiled in.

Isn't it already well beyond "enough"?

peace,
tribalogical

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That's no Koranic verse
Posted by: Tequila Kid on Oct 27, 2007 11:04 AM   
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The slogan at the crest of the Mujhedeen el Khalq’s old emblem is in Arabic, not Persian/Farsi, the language of Iran. This may have misled the author into believing that it is a quote from the Koran. Actually it reads as follows: “By the grace of Allah, the Mujahedeen on the base …” and the rest is too fuzzy to read, at least or me. The word they use for “the base” is “al qa’ida”. Sound familiar?

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Thorough Journalism
Posted by: obliu222 on Oct 27, 2007 11:20 AM   
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I know it's been long-considered a prime target, but wouldn't it be nice if when impugning the credibility of a major news network, a journalist actually bothered to back up his claims with a "stated source." Charging an FNC-front organization, whether common knowledge or not, is just comprehensive dissemination of information, instead of routing people to stale conservative debate-links....

Thanks.

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Don't get fooled again!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 27, 2007 12:04 PM   
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This is the same snowjob we got during the Afghan/Russian War. Only then it was Bush's Daddy saying, 'There's bad people over there but we've found some we can work with.'
They were the Taliban and Bin Ladin. They soon became our enemy. This govvernment is not only proving they are totally unfit for the job but the old addage 'If you want to know if you can trust White Government, ask an Indian'.
Just like we have to stop our Bush from doing anymore harm,we have to stop those who would follow him. They are the devil's advocates whose speech is excrement and their
motivations are greed.
THINK OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM
Draft Jeffrey7 for Prez '08

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A BIGGER PICTURE...
Posted by: Roverton on Oct 27, 2007 12:35 PM   
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... does keep revealing itself.

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True American supports the Constitution
Posted by: drblack on Oct 27, 2007 3:20 PM   
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There is no version. There is only one thing that defines a True American. They support the Constitution with every part of their being.
A true American believes in 100% individual Freedom. That is that a person is entirely free to do with themselves and their life as they see fit.
There are few True American left these days. Both the Dems and Repubs have some very anti-American factions these days.

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The cult of rajavi
Posted by: farhada on Oct 27, 2007 6:01 PM   
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From 2006: "Terror ops underway in Iran"
Posted by: pdevlinbuckley on Oct 27, 2007 6:43 PM   
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Terror Ops Underway in Iran:

"Suspected US-sponsored MEK operations include the string of terrorist bombings that killed at least 12 people and injured 90 others in Iran just prior to the country’s elections in 2005.

US-sponsored MEK militants also attacked and killed 22 Iranian officials in the south-eastern province of Sistan-Baluchistan this March, according to US government officials who spoke to Raw Story.

As early as January of 2005 the MEK were “launching raids” from Camp Habib in Basra on behalf of the US, and had also been given permission by Pakistani President Pervez Musharaff to operate from Pakistan’s Baluchi area, according to US officials who spoke to UPI.

... The Iran Policy Committee (IPC), which has been described as a “spin off” of the highly influential American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), serves as the MEK’s primary support group in Washington.

... The IPC consists of former military and intelligence officials, most of whom now work in the private sector and four of whom also work as military analysts for Fox News. In addition, the MEK’s former U.S. representative is also working for Fox News as a foreign affairs analyst.

Interestingly, in December of 2004, Sasan Fayazmanesh, a professor of economics at Fresno State University, wrote an article for Counterpunch in which he commented on the MEK’s activities: “Every few weeks these Chalabi-like, men-in-black characters-and also Fox News commentators-come up with some ‘top secret satellite photos’ showing non-existent nuclear weapons sites in Iran (how a US designated terrorist organization gets top secret satellite photos is, of course, beyond one's imagination).”
..."

More...

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GEORGE W. BUSH IS NOT NOR EVER WAS A CHRISTIAN.
Posted by: SALLY EVANS on Oct 27, 2007 9:38 PM   
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LITERALLY, CHRISTIAN MEANS AN IMITATOR OF CHRIST.
BUSH AND THE REST OF HIS SWINE TOSS THE WORD "CHRISTIAN" AROUND LIKE THEY KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. THE BUSH FAMILY MADE THE BUSH FORTUNE SUPPORTING HITLER'S WAR. THEY ARE THE LOWEST OF TRASH AND DO NOT MIND USING AND ABUSING THE WORD "CHRISTIAN" WHEN THEY BELIEVE THE NAIVE ARE WATCHING.. THEY ARE DANGEROUS !

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Same standards??
Posted by: oppo on Oct 27, 2007 10:38 PM   
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Will the Left use the same standards and level of scrutiny to analyze the much larger anti-American Islam-fascist groups. Not so far! The Left is and has always been dedicated to denigrating the U.S. while forever, and without logic, making excuses for any group or country that shows sufficient hatred for our own country.

What makes this time particularly strange is the atheist Left (most of the Left) will even side with theocratic radical Muslims if they show the requisite hatred for the U.S.

The Left is devoid of principal and exists only to highlight any and all faults of the country that has allowed them greater freedom than all of the countries they have acted as apologists for.

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They're good for practice
Posted by: talkville on Oct 28, 2007 4:27 AM   
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Writers such as Pipes, Horowitz, et al are great moments of exercise. One extracts from them clear descriptions, expressions, and articulations of their OWN deep wishes, desires and imaginations placed into OTHERS.

The Object of their "Week" is Terrorism (capital T); the Objective of their "Week" is to inspire fear. And fear makes gods (which, of course, will be none other than Horowitz, Pipes et al). Then they can lead all to the "Promised Land", no questions asked.

Meanwhile, here on REAL earth, where REAL people live, there's concrete and REAL kind of work to be done and awareness to reach.

Reformed and repentant smokers ENJOY their newly gained powers of behavioral control; Reformed and repentant political hacks do also--more often than not, the enjoyment is of a sadistic vein.

Awareness of "Awareness Months" and their uses, objectives and purposes is good to have.

But watch out for your hearts and your minds!! It's only prudent when the gods come down from their abodes to pronounce to the multitudes! They speak in riddles!

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The history of Mujahedin and terrorism
Posted by: farhada on Oct 28, 2007 6:15 AM   
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As a person who fantasize and rmoantized the organization in my early teens back in Iran, I am well aware of the groups and it's propaganda actions.

The groups was created in early 1960 after the frustration of the loss of power to the Shah's regime became widespread and cause the uprising of nationalist/religious groups in 1964. The same year Iran signed an agreement with the US giving them total immunity for crimes committed in Iran. The law, called "capitulacion" (or capitolation, or surrender) by the people in the street caused Khomeini to use the situation to start his crusade to topple Shah's regime mainly because of his disapproval of sectarian reforms, but also for it's total surrender to a foreign country.

One of the groups close to both the nationalists and the religious movement was the Mujahedin, created by some devoted nationalist and passionate revolutionaries who went to Lebanon, Syria and Iraq to receive basic training and start a gurilla war against the regime of Shah. This group together with the Marxist-Leninst group Fedaiian- Khalq, became involved in some attacks against police and military installation as well as in one case killing several American "advisors" to Shah's regime.

Both groups were almost totally destroyed by Shah's brutal secret service in mid 70s and in the case of Mujahedin, almost the entire organization was wiped out by either Shah's SAVAK or by internal fight that created a sectarian/Maoist organization called PEIKAR.

After the total destruction of the leadership, only a few surviving members were released by the Shah's last prime minister shortly befroe the February 1979 revolution.

the leaders of the group, Masoud Rajavi and Mousa Khiabani tried very hard to get in touch with Khomeini and were one of only 2 opposition groups to support the creation of the Islamic Republic in the Sham referandum of March 1979 (the other group was the Moscow follower Communist party, Hezbe Tudeh):

see images:
Khomeini, Rajavi and Khiabani in 1979
Image of Masoud Rajavi voting together with Mousa Khiabani for the legalization of Islamic Republic

The populist mentality of Rajavi and the ultra radical ideas of Khiabani were too repulsive for Khomeini and he always called them "Monafegh" (divider, or hypocrites, since he believed their ideology had nothing to do with Islam and their basic ideas were rooted in Marxism). Khiabani was killed together with Rajavi's wife Ashraf during a gun fight between IRI security forces and MKO members.


-- will follow

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» RE: The history of Mujahedin and terrorism Posted by: waterislifeaguaesvida
to footman
Posted by: oppo on Oct 28, 2007 9:06 AM   
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This may take some time, but your response is so filled with sloppy thinking and I trust you would want this corrected to save further embarrassment.

Might you be from one of the countries that we pulled form the abyss in WWI or perhaps WWII? By the way, many of our citizens who participated are still dead. Very convenient to hate a country but “like” the people. Incidentally, the people who reside here are the Country. Mmmmmkay.

And, I like both my country and the people. Is that OK for me? Funny how the Left preaches constantly about respecting the culture of others but Americans are admonished for giving their own country the benefit of the doubt. Seems right, especially in light of the enormous good we have done in the world. (Who you gonna call when it all goes wrong. Think of the Tsunamis – the U.S. sent the ships, the people, the experts, the supplies, AND the MONEY. )

When you read all of the words I wrote, note that I said “most” of the Left is atheist, and while it’s quaint to hear you’re not an atheist, that single admission does not disprove my point. By the way, are your sure your definition of “bigot” is correct. Nothing I’ve said could be construed as bigotry.

You need the most help with your take on “freedom”. Why the quotation marks. Even children know what freedom means. I know the constitution and the Bill of Rights and both are intact. You might be shocked by the amount of freedom I enjoy every day and it has been undiminished since Bush was elected. No change, Nada! Shockingly, the entire country seems equally free. What a country!

I don’t need to look up the definition of fascism, that also is easy to understand. Surprisingly, the interesting features of fascism are the same as those of the Islamo-fascists. This term is used because it fits (read Christopher Hitchens on this point).

And no one has proposed killing all Muslims, just the need to stop the vast majority from continuing a sympathetic tone towards those Muslims who are Islamo-fascists. Alert me to the Muslim masses who have spoken out against hatred of the West. When the totalitarian Muslim countries, and nearly all are, start demonstrating to support the idea of individual freedom we will all be OK.

AS for you, it is clear your education provided no background on those who have a different opinion, and inform the 4 out of 5 in your country that we have been right too often on the big issues and one day they will understand what 1 out of 5 already knows

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The MEK has been alive and kicking for ages. Don't forget Pakistan.
Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 28, 2007 1:31 PM   
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That's where they get all their funding to attack India and Afghanistan.

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Islamfacism is fear-mongering by the Zionists
Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 28, 2007 3:58 PM   
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by looking at the characters that have come together under this manner:
1. Horowitz
2. Ann Coulter --> Any ORG, movement that includes Coulter has by default no credibility
3. Daniel Pipes --> Islamophobe that puts Israel over American interest. His claim to fame is that he called for interment of all muslims in US after 9/11.
4. Rick Santorum --> Well, what can be said about a moron that compared homosexual activity to 'man on dog' sex!
5. Hitchens --> A born-again neocon. After 9/11 he realized he too is a neocon just like Benny Morris. Wonder what Pipes think of Hitchens take on Israel (prior 9/11) considering how much Hitchens admired the late Israel Shahak?

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TREACHEROUS ALLIANCE : pART II
Posted by: gadflysuper on Oct 29, 2007 12:19 AM   
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FARHAT MAQUAMI

Despite all political uttering and Sideshows for International and Domestic propaganda the Islamic Revolution in Iran has put Iran under an undisputed control of multi national corporations which is controlled by American and Israeli interest. Rafsanjani is the Godfather of Mushrooming Corporations of Mullahs who have dragged Iran wealth exactly according to the Strategy of Free Market laid down by Reagan.
During the Shah’s rein, there was a sense of historical nationalism and a sense that Iran would ultimately would defy the odds and would progress while keeping its identity, The treacherous alliance successfully drained Iran’s wealth, devalued its currency , made it dependant on foreign refined and transferred its asset abroad. All the barking of Ahmadi Nejad is to cover-up the facts that Iran’ s economy is collapses without imported oil, and Mullahs Billion dollars of stolen assets in Canada, Australia, Dubai and elsewhere can be frozen in a heartbeat!
Indeed, the story of Iran has been its undisputed financial alignment of Mullahs and the corporate America. The Monkey Dancing of AhmadiNejad in Columbia is a ridiculous side show to divert attention from the real exploitation of Iran by the Billionaire Mullah Rafsanjani who is extracting and exporting Iran’s wealth to Canada, Turkey, Dubai, Australia and Singapore just to name the few. Never before in the history of any country such has a transfer of wealth taken place for the benefit of the American, British and Israeli Government.
Islamic Revolution is the lovechild of the treacherous marriage between Mossad, CIA and British intelligence and has brought nothing but disaster for Iran and profit for the West. It has divided Islam by the make belief theory that the Mullahs are anti-West and therefore Islam must remain anti-West in order to encourage the billions of dollar of American money to be sent to Israel and more billions be wasted in the War in Iraq on anther fabricated “enemy” Al Qaeda, which like the Iranian Mullah was created by the West Intelligence services to justify their expansion of military power to control world resources.
Treacherous Alliance caused the US and Israeli agents band together and reinvent the Iranian subservient and conformist Mullahs, who were on Shah’s Payroll, to usurp power and market their rein of terror as the “Islamic Revolution”. It is well publicized fact that General Robert Huyser went to Iran to make sure that not only Shah abdicates power but also the power is transferred to Israeli, British and pro-American Mullahs. Unlike the overthrow of the Iranian democratically elected Mossadeq, which was overthrown by the CIA, the Islamic rein of terror was deliberately and methodically manufactured by Mossad, the CIA and British intelligence Service with complete cooperation of a gutless Shah.
For those who are concerned about the hidden facts about the Iranian regime, is to look in their own environment to see the Unholy Alliance between Christian Zionists, Islamic leaders of Iran, the uttering of Digital Ben Ladin in CIA Voice & Image Duplication Laboratories, Mossad and then compare them with economic facts and tremendous transfer of wealth from Iran to Canada, Australia and Dubai, and decide for themselves if the book like these are not designed to cover-up the real relationship of Mullahs of Iran with Israel and the US.
Nothing is more revealing than the unconditional support given to the “Division of Iraq Resolution (presented by the self-declared Zionist Senator Biden) by the head of the most feared terrorist organization, supported and financed by the Revolutionary Guards, Mullah Hakim. An old Zionist Mythology from Euphrates to Nile, a hidden declaration in Israeli Flag, is one step closer to reality thanks for the Treacherous Alliance of Mossad and Revolutionary Guards of Iran.


FARHAT MAQUAMI

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Funny t oread this!
Posted by: farhada on Oct 29, 2007 2:43 AM   
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There was a show when I was a kid and in that one, the main character was an old guy who saw everything as the work of "ingilisiha" (the britts), it seems that he was not far from reality judging by the message here :)

Cheers,
/Farhad

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Zionist- Fascism Awareness Week
Posted by: DesertStone on Oct 29, 2007 12:13 PM   
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Here we have David Horowitz sponsoring an Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, how civil minded of him. Does this mean we’re permitted to sponsor a Zionist-Fascism Awareness Week? I wonder what David Horowitz would have to say about that. I honestly wonder.

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