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War on Iraq

Divide and Rule: Bush's Doomed Plan for Baghdad

By Robert Fisk, The Independent. Posted April 12, 2007.


Revealed: a new counter-insurgency strategy to carve up the city into sealed areas. The tactic failed in Vietnam. So what chance does it have in Iraq?
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Faced with an ever-more ruthless insurgency in Baghdad -- despite President George Bush's "surge" in troops -- US forces in the city are now planning a massive and highly controversial counter-insurgency operation that will seal off vast areas of the city, enclosing whole neighbourhoods with barricades and allowing only Iraqis with newly issued ID cards to enter. The campaign of "gated communities" -- whose genesis was in the Vietnam War -- will involve up to 30 of the city's 89 official districts and will be the most ambitious counter-insurgency programme yet mounted by the US in Iraq.

The system has been used -- and has spectacularly failed -- in the past, and its inauguration in Iraq is as much a sign of American desperation at the country's continued descent into civil conflict as it is of US determination to "win" the war against an Iraqi insurgency that has cost the lives of more than 3,200 American troops. The system of "gating" areas under foreign occupation failed during the French war against FLN insurgents in Algeria and again during the American war in Vietnam. Israel has employed similar practices during its occupation of Palestinian territory -- again, with little success.

But the campaign has far wider military ambitions than the pacification of Baghdad. It now appears that the US military intends to place as many as five mechanised brigades -- comprising about 40,000 men -- south and east of Baghdad, at least three of them positioned between the capital and the Iranian border. This would present Iran with a powerful -- and potentially aggressive -- American military force close to its border in the event of a US or Israeli military strike against its nuclear facilities later this year.

The latest "security" plan, of which The Independent has learnt the details, was concocted by General David Petraeus, the current US commander in Baghdad, during a six-month command and staff course at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas. Those attending the course -- American army generals serving in Iraq and top officers from the US Marine Corps, along with, according to some reports, at least four senior Israeli officers -- participated in a series of debates to determine how best to "turn round" the disastrous war in Iraq.

The initial emphasis of the new American plan will be placed on securing Baghdad market places and predominantly Shia Muslim areas. Arrests of men of military age will be substantial. The ID card project is based upon a system adopted in the city of Tal Afar by General Petraeus's men -- and specifically by Colonel H R McMaster, of the 3rd Armoured Cavalry Regiment -- in early 2005, when an eight-foot "berm" was built around the town to prevent the movement of gunmen and weapons. General Petraeus regarded the campaign as a success although Tal Afar, close to the Syrian border, has since fallen back into insurgent control.

So far, the Baghdad campaign has involved only the creation of a few US positions within several civilian areas of the city but the new project will involve joint American and Iraqi "support bases" in nine of the 30 districts to be "gated" off. From these bases -- in fortified buildings -- US-Iraqi forces will supposedly clear militias from civilian streets which will then be walled off and the occupants issued with ID cards. Only the occupants will be allowed into these "gated communities" and there will be continuous patrolling by US-Iraqi forces. There are likely to be pass systems, "visitor" registration and restrictions on movement outside the "gated communities." Civilians may find themselves inside a "controlled population" prison.

In theory, US forces can then concentrate on providing physical reconstruction in what the military like to call a "secure environment". But insurgents are not foreigners, despite the presence of al-Qa'ida in Iraq. They come from the same population centres that will be "gated" and will, if undiscovered, hold ID cards themselves; they will be "enclosed" with everyone else.

A former US officer in Vietnam who has a deep knowledge of General Petraeus's plans is sceptical of the possible results. "The first loyalty of any Sunni who is in the Iraqi army is to the insurgency," he said. "Any Shia's first loyalty is to the head of his political party and its militia. Any Kurd in the Iraqi army, his first loyalty is to either Barzani or Talabani. There is no independent Iraqi army. These people really have no choice. They are trying to save their families from starvation and reprisal. At one time they may have believed in a unified Iraq. At one time they may have been secular. But the violence and brutality that started with the American invasion has burnt those liberal ideas out of people ... Every American who is embedded in an Iraqi unit is in constant mortal danger."

The senior generals who constructed the new "security" plan for Baghdad were largely responsible for the seminal -- but officially "restricted" -- field manual on counter-insurgency produced by the Department of the Army in December of last year, code-numbered FM 3-24. While not specifically advocating the "gated communities" campaign, one of its principles is the unification of civilian and military activities, citing "civil operations and revolutionary development support teams" in South Vietnam, assistance to Kurdish refugees in northern Iraq in 1991 and the "provincial reconstruction teams" in Afghanistan -- a project widely condemned for linking military co-operation and humanitarian aid.


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It's deja vu all over again
Posted by: Moonray on Apr 12, 2007 6:47 AM   
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I saw these same pathetic tactics fail in Vietnam nearly 40 years ago. The Bushies are merely running out the clock, stalling until they can leave office and blame the Democrats for losing the war. (The Bushies are too dense to understand that the war was lost in 2003, and probably could not have been won in any case. Just check out Iraq's long, porous borders.)

What's important is that Americans learn from this and prevent such foolish military adventurism in the future. The president's powers should be drastically curtailed (by constitutional amendment, if necessary) and troop deployments subjected to strict time limits and performance criteria.

Unfortunately, these changes are unlikely to occur, because our politicians don't think beyond the next two-year election cycle. That's why our nation is steadily declining and other countries, especially in Europe, are surpassing us in many ways. Our dumbed-down, consumer-driven society is beginning to get what it deserves, I'm afraid.

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» RE: It's deja vu all over again Posted by: willymack
freedom?
Posted by: Benjaminsjw on Apr 12, 2007 7:08 AM   
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Nice Freedom and Democracy for Iraq. Now the American soldiers will have to practice barking "Papieren bitte!" in Arabic.

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'Gated communities'? Or ghettos?
Posted by: HeroesAll on Apr 12, 2007 7:11 AM   
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There are similarities between this tactic and the containment of populations of black South Africans or Jews in the past. There's no similarity between this tactic and the previous meaning of gated communities, which is rich people locking themselves in and the poor out.

The initial emphasis of the new American plan will be placed on securing Baghdad market places and predominantly Shia Muslim areas. Arrests of men of military age will be substantial.

Can you say Falllujah?

From these bases -- in fortified buildings -- US-Iraqi forces will supposedly clear militias from civilian streets which will then be walled off and the occupants issued with ID cards.

Uh-oh. Anyone who's read C J Cherryh's superb novel Downbelow Station can guess what will happen (or at least one of a number of highly undesirable alternatives).

There are likely to be pass systems, "visitor" registration and restrictions on movement outside the "gated communities."

...because this has worked so well in the West Bank.


Why is it that a certain (dominant) segment of the US government seems to (a) always choose tactics which involve the use of force alongside surgical metaphors; and (b) have an unrealistic optimism about their potential success that would make a 3-year-old blush? When has cantonment (or cantonisation, or ghettoisation, or whatever you wish to call it) ever worked?

And what do they plan to do about Muqtada al Sadr's call for Iraqis to unite against the Americans?

This is even more dumb than their 'idea' at the beginning of this abomination: that billboards proclaiming "Baghdad is getting better and better!" would make the Iraqis believe it.

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» Preservation of capital equipment Posted by: eddie torres
» RE: 'Gated communities'? Or ghettos? Posted by: disgustedandamused
Is there a hole for me to get sick in?
Posted by: rockpicker on Apr 12, 2007 7:20 AM   
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Get us out now!

Jail the perps of this illegal and immoral calamity!

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Looking ahead or behind by 100,000 years...
Posted by: OneAcre2012 on Apr 12, 2007 7:50 AM   
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Makes one wonder what life would be like without nation-states...the theory that the world would devolve into chaos without some structure is obviously blown apart by the fact that the world has devolved into chaos because of said structure. But the US motto seems to be, if you can't win, spin!

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Iraq Iran
Posted by: jmndodge on Apr 12, 2007 8:46 AM   
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I'm not sure we are just running out the clock. I'm not sure the lose of live and destruction of a nation isn't recognized as victory, for it is allowing massive buildup of military positions within a dying nation. Positioned next to Iran, provocations building, we well might be in a time of crisis with expanding war well before the next major election cycle. Who is calling the shots? Who benefits? Look beyond those elected. Follow the money trail, and special interests. Listen carefully to the political rhetoric on Iran. We are not calling for peace, for diplomatic relationships for friendship building, but increasing sanctions a pressure – a bipartisan approach that is dangerous. We will go to the election desperate for change, electing a pawn of the real power brokers. It is only in this primary season that we might find our voice and make steps toward peace and change.

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WWII Warsaw Ghetto variation
Posted by: ScottP on Apr 12, 2007 8:49 AM   
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As HeroesAll noted, these are not gated communities, but ghettos. For a good reference on it, check out:
Holocaust Ghettos

Based on their actions, the current administration's goal appears to be to completely undermine the social fabric and to get the people to be so desperate that they destroy each other. Apparently the current civil war doesn't satisfy them, and so they want to ratchet it up another notch. Perhaps they fear that if we were to leave soon, the civil war might peter out. And so they borrow a page from what they encourage Israel to do to the Palestinians, except with a more active role for the military and their bombing (e.g. more air strikes, every day).

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"Gated communities???"
Posted by: mountainmama on Apr 12, 2007 8:51 AM   
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Is it just me or is this a fancy way of calling them concentration camps? Okay...when is the rest of the nation going to wake up and clear the shit from the eyes to see what is really going on here? IMPEACH!!!! Kick the bum out!

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BUSH, A MAN WHO PLANS FOR FAILURE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 12, 2007 8:52 AM   
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One Success demands that we continue to succeed. Failure can be a habit for life. A safe place to be. No pressure. No one expects much of a loser. Our world is in turmoil because of one man who has brought his life long shortcomings to the White House. We can't make demands of him. He still has temper tantrums. Jan. 2008 is too long for us to wait. Alot more people will be dead by then. We continue to placate a spoiled brat. Thanks, ANNA

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» Its not Bush Posted by: rgarg
» RE: Its not Bush Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Its not Bush Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Its not Bush Posted by: rockpicker
Deja Voodoo
Posted by: MountainMike on Apr 12, 2007 9:04 AM   
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Strategy wise, we are still at an impasse with "assymetrical warfare" - otherwise known as insurgency. We were stuck at an impasse between high tech conventional warfare and lower tech but effective gorilla warfare in Vietnam. And we are stuck now in Iraq.

We can take and hold ground, which is allegedly the "new" strategy defined in the article when in fact it is "old school" conventional war. The problem is that it ties down your forces to one specific location. You may pacify specific neighborhoods, but the insurgents will only go to other areas that are not protected and increase the violence there. This is in fact what is happening.

At best, specific neighborhoods will be pacified and will be used by Bush (or McCain) as an example of the surge working. However, the violence in the outskirts of Baghdad that are not being taken, held and pacified has substantially INCREASED at a pace that my result in this April being the bloodiest month in Iraq since the end of the invasion.

Yet more typical Dubya wisdom? It is actually replacing stay the course with the alternative, more intensely staying the course and calling it a *SURGE*. It is like repackaging BS into smaller bags and expecting it to be no longer BS.

I can see it now, a Nam look alike photo of the last Helicopter flight out of Baghdad off of the roof of a half built, 104 acre US palace-embassy. Another lesson in "hubris" for America as we didn't learn anything the first time in Nam.

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nebtwin
Posted by: nebtwin on Apr 12, 2007 9:17 AM   
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I agree with the last comment. Bushie is just trying to continue the war until he leaves office so Republicans can blame Democrats for losing the war.

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» RE: nebtwin Posted by: weatherking
» RE: nebtwin Posted by: peacefullaim
Are we really thinking about leaving?
Posted by: fedupw/bush on Apr 12, 2007 9:29 AM   
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We have been building 4 large military bases in Iraq, to watch over the oil pipe lines ,while all our troops are getting killed,so do you really think they(bush & co.) are even thinking of EVER leaving ? All the main oil co.'s of the world( make that all of george's friends )NEED to control that oil, but we are paying for it with our taxes & lives ! Mean while gas prices just keeps going up & up !

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Ultimately, it's on your head
Posted by: Knowmad on Apr 12, 2007 9:53 AM   
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At the risk of giving offense, what I really don't understand is how all Americans (except those who really are sick, neocons, et al) of every stripe or persuasion, left, right, centre, off-the-wall . . . whatever, aren't so totally aghast at the actions of their government that they're not shouting it at street corners and marching in the streets, dragging the fools from their pedestals and prosecuting them for their crimes. These days in most places, including here in Canada, I know the populus wouldn't sit so idly by if their administration had the unmitigated gall to invade a sovereign nation on the basis of proven lies, and then continued to occupy and ravage at will, regardless of the expressed disapproval of the majority.

WHY? DO THE IRAQI PEOPLE NOT MATTER!? ARE YOU SCARED TO SPEAK UP? WHAT IS IT?

If you can come to grips with these questions, maybe you can then decide what must be done. Be aware, the longer you let insecure children run your affairs at their whim, the more damage they do to your status in the world. And that is something you, your children, and their children will pay for dearly.

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» RE: yes, we are scared Posted by: ScottP
» RE: yes, we are scared Posted by: Knowmad
» RE: yes, we are scared Posted by: MAD
» RE: yes, we are scared Posted by: badkitty
» RE: yes, we are scared Posted by: Knowmad
» Call congress 202-224-3121 Posted by: fanny666
VONNEGUT KNEW BETTER THAN TO HAND THE WAR MACHINE TO VILE NITWITS
Posted by: TheStranger on Apr 12, 2007 9:58 AM   
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His last book, A Man without a Country, took some excellent shots at this administration. Now we have to move on without him and make this Congress fear the next election more than it fears its corporate paymasters. We have to stop funding this war!
http://ivangoldman.blogspot.com/

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Bold The Many Drum Beats Of Iraq
Posted by: joseph_b26 on Apr 12, 2007 10:35 AM   
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I have come to the conclusion we have not grasped the magnitude surrounding every contributing element fueling this war. With the understated hundreds of thousands of Iraqi protesting on the anniversary of this war, a clear message was sent to America to get out of Iraq.

Does the United States military have to suffer a slaughter to see was is so clearly on the horizon? I sure hope not, but sometimes if you see your strengths from another ankle you empower yourself or objectives.

With our so-called smart bombs, we have killed a many innocents. This fact alone is responsible for brother, sister, mother, father, uncle and the dog becoming insurgents. Multiply that dynamic by 4 years and you have insurgency from hell.

I don't know about you, but it takes more than the desire to "win this thing" for me to be patriotic about this war. I refuse to get behind this president for a "pick of the week" rational for killing so many. I am not sure if the supporters of this war even know what they want. They say we need to "win this thing" and in the next statement proclaim it's the Iraqi responsibility to defend their own country. So is "Winning this Thing" training the Iraqis to defend their land? If so, why do we need the show of so much force? Hell, we can train them and go home. What a sweet victory that will be.

I remember a unprecedented move to train our military in civilian crowd control tactics. This happen last year and it was controversial because it was considered a move that could give the executive branch too much power. I feared it was Bush's slow move to a dictatorship.

As it stands, 70% of the American people want this war over with. The other 30% want to "win this thing." I don't know about you, but it looks like we may be headed down the road I feared. Bush refuses to hear the will of the American people and is lining up to make moves on other countries like Iran and Syria.

When Will we say enough Mr Bush it's time to listen to the American voice to stop this war?

Joseph

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» RE: Bold The Many Drum Beats Of Iraq Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: Something Better Then Nothing Posted by: joseph_b26
» Change: A Process Not A Event Posted by: joseph_b26
» RE: Change: A Process Not A Event Posted by: joseph_b26
Haven't we had ample time?
Posted by: symcokid on Apr 12, 2007 11:10 AM   
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Hasn't this "High and Mighty" - world's only "SUPER POWER", had enough time to devastate and steal Iraq's oil by now??? Appararently this USofA won't be satisfied until they have all of the Middle East oil tied up!

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Why is the failed Iraq occupation a surprise?
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 12, 2007 11:13 AM   
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I’m not an expert on the Middle East, but I do have good common sense. And it didn’t compute in my brain four years ago that the way to win hearts and minds in Iraq was by breaking into Baghdad homes, terrifying women and children with M16s, shouting orders in pidgin Arabic, hauling away traditional weapons like the AK47 along with blindfolded relatives suspected of being Baath Party loyalists, whom we financed in the war against Iran.

How angry would you get if Iraqi soldiers in a white pickup truck stopped in front of your house tonight, broke down your door, aimed AK47s at your family, confiscated your shotgun, and demanded to know in broken English if you were a Republican?

Would not such treatment make you want to retaliate with pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails?

God, I hope so. If not, the American Revolution was fought in vain.


Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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Bush is an oilman-
Posted by: WitchyNy on Apr 12, 2007 11:26 AM   
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That is all Oilmen understand. Oil. The rich old white men running this country don't know anything about solar or alternative energy.
They can't CONTROL those.

This is just another oil war. They are stealing the oil and setting up the structure to continue to do it. That is all they know how to do.
Steal -pollute-exploit- make war.

They are Dinosaurs and unless we stop them they may very well take all of us with them into extinction.

REVOLUTION NOW! EAT THE RICH!

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CEOs are always rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 12, 2007 11:59 AM   
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Problems in corporations are dismissed (never resolved) by reorganizing. It 'looks good' to reorganize; it appears to be a change, even while it never is.

Building walls will keep us busy while the real job--waiting out the process of the Iraqis to get tired of killing off each other--gets taken care of--or not.

Yes, Americans are fed up with an occupation that just gets worse every day. In our weariness, we are likely to let those who are profiting from it decide. Gotta stick with it. Gotta continue to pay attention. Can't let the alternative be only to change who's in charge of the occupation. Gotta get the heck out of there. Let Bush and his minions keep the billions they have made off the disaster. First things first--get out.

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Petraeus, PsyOps, and the Propaganda Nation
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 12, 2007 12:40 PM   
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For a better understanding of the mentality of the current commanders in Iraq, go to
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/ and take a look at FM 3-05.30 Psychological Operations.

For some reason, Bush and Rumsfeld and Cheney etc. thought they could go into Iraq, divide it up along Sunni, Shia and Kurdish lines, split the country into three parts, and sieze the oilfields - and they'd be welcomed as saviors for doing so.

The central theme of the Iraq occupation has been psychological operations designed to do just this. We still don't know who was responsible for the bombing of the Samarra mosque that touched off the escalating sectarian violence, but it'd be no surprise to find that it was a US PsyOp team that was ultimately responsible, acting on direct orders from the head of the Iraq occupation.

In particular, if you look at the Field Manual on Psychological Operations, scroll down to Appendix A, on "White, Gray and Black Propaganda" - section A-9 in particular makes for interesting reading:

"Advantages of Black Products:

...Through the skillful use of terminology, format and media, appear to be a part of the opponents own propaganda effort, making the opponent appear to contradict himself, and forcing him to mount an expensive, difficult and exploitable campaign that highlights the original black message

..Their covert nature and the difficulty of identifying the true source hinder the opponents ability to mitigate their effects.

Disadvantages of Black Products:

...Stringent and compartmented OPSEC precautions are required to keep the true identity of the source hidden."


Yes - very interesting. We know that such operations are being carried out in Iraq on a daily basis with the apparent goal of dividing the country up in three. Are such operations also being directed at the American public? Isn't the tactic of only protecting the 'embedded reporters' itself a PsyOp? Is the high rate of murders of independent journalists in Iraq part of the PsyOp strategy?

This is all incredibly illegal, and it also lends credence to the theory that much of the "911truth.org" material claiming that the CIA planted bombs in the WTC, and fired missles at the Pentagon (i.e the "Loose Change Documentary", etc.) is itself a PsyOp aimed at discrediting anti-war movements (bit of a tangent, yes, but it's clear why that strategy would be adopted).

Another more accessible example is the train of lies about nuclear, chemical and biological weapons in Iraq, ties to Al Queda, and the desire of Iraqis to be 'liberated', as well as the claim that "This has nothing to do with oil" - this could also be described as a PsyOp that targeted the US public, carried out with the full cooperation of a compliant corporate media. (Remember the televised shots of embedded reporters running around in gas masks on CNN, FOX, etc? Powell waving around 'simulated anthrax at the UN? Forged documents on 'Nigerian yellowcake uranium ore"?)

Goebbels would admire such clever propaganda, wouldn't he?

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With Fava beans?
Posted by: Pojer on Apr 12, 2007 2:08 PM   
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These moves are desperation moves by rich white folk who have run the world and won't let go without a fight. They see this as their *OWN* survival, and the geological limitations of the planet are ceasing their reign for them.

All we need to do is collectively sieze power from transnational corporations, but don't expect online petitions to get that done. I expect bloody battles through the rest of our existence, the time of feigned peace is over kids, this is called Dieoff.

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Who's to Stop Them?
Posted by: Sparks56 on Apr 12, 2007 4:55 PM   
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Today, a suicide bomber got into the cafeteria of the Iraqi Parliament, in the heart of the Green Zone. Iraqi MP's were killed and injured. Yesterday, a bomber blew up the major bridge across the Euphrates River in Bagdhad. The bridge had military check points at each end. These events occured in spite of the US military's public pronouncements to focus on making Bagdhad more secure.
Is this a failure? Or is this part of the real plan? Does the neocon/military junta have any do real intention to create a peaceful stable Iraq, free of US military presence? Or do they, rather, wish to create permanent war in the Middle East and therefore justify a permanent US military presence?
We can be sure what Isreal wants, and Israel's lobby, and its agents in the US gov't., (hello, Senator Lieberman,) are powerful and rich. It was not courtesy that the Israeli military participated in US military planning seminars; US and Israeli military organizations are partners. These two organizations are controlled by people who will go to any length, tell any lie, kill your son and my daughter, and soak up the gross domestic product of the richest nation in the world, for decades to come, to get and keep what they want. Osama bin Laden isn't their enemy, he's one of their agents.
Whose to stop them?

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Phone question
Posted by: paulaH on Apr 12, 2007 5:00 PM   
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Okay, this isn't related to the article itself, but I keep looking at that phone in his hand in the picture. Is there a phone out there designed like that, or does the moron have it upside down? Just wondering.

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Robert Fisk: "We've Been Liberating the Middle East for Centuries"
Posted by: fanny666 on Apr 12, 2007 5:07 PM   
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Will we never learn?

Iraq History

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More People Killed: But Hey, Nobody in America Cares Anymore
Posted by: sofla100 on Apr 12, 2007 5:08 PM   
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Yes, a bomb exploded in the Green Zone killing some Iraqi's. But, hey, it's just another day in Iraq. And as the now page 10 newspaper stories come in, everyday it's usually a few more Americans killed, scores more of Iraqi's slaughtered, and more millions down the sewer hole, we find that the vast majority of Americans have simply "checked out." No matter that US soldiers continue to come home (when they can even come home nowadays) with warped minds and hearts from an ill-conceived and pointless war. But, hey, this won't even make CNN anymore, let alone FOX, which still proclaims America is winning in Iraq. So, it goes on endlessly. The stupid American Empire Project. Meanwhile, the USA cowers when a powerful China reminds her that they now hold in excess of $1 trillion in US currency. One raised hand by China and the world's financial markets collapse. But, hey, we have the bombs and guns, that is what counts, right?

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The Republican War
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Apr 12, 2007 6:39 PM   
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Five years, billions of dollars spent, more soldiers killed that civilians on 9/11/01, and hundreds of thousands dead Iraqi - yet these misguided bozos still want us to believe that they have found their path to victory. Hogwash, we have a president and a Joint Chiefs of Staff that will fight till the last American Soldier, Marine, Sailor, and Airman are either wounded or dead.

The Republican motto is screw the troops, they intend to keep sending everybody wearing a military uniform back into the Iraqi meat grinder time and time again, as long as they don't have to go. Our AWOL President and 5 deferment VP knew how to dodge their roles in Vietnam and now they are chicken hawk mass murders who are waiting out the clock on their Failures called the Bush Administration while the Republican War grinds on. Every Republican that votes for continuing the Republican War in Iraq - should be responsible for those votes and be thrown out of office in 2008!

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» RE: The Republican War Posted by: weatherking
Personally, I think it's fantastic he has a plan! ...
Posted by: BobbyGreyFriar on Apr 12, 2007 7:12 PM   
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A new precedent has been set.

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Next time George goes to plug in the car...
Posted by: rockpicker on Apr 12, 2007 11:00 PM   
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I say, we back away, quietly, and let him...

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Imus's self-destruction is a metaphor
Posted by: rockpicker on Apr 12, 2007 11:22 PM   
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for what Bush, through Gates and Petraeus, have finally brought upon themselves. Pity our brave, though naive, young men and women will have to suffer for their leaders' ignorance and arrogance.

We are all about to witness Iraq rise and kick the holy fuck out of us, and we deserve everything we get.

We sat by, idly, and let this administration commit mayhem in our good name. Now, it is time to accept responsibility for our inaction.

If I believed in God, I could not, knowing what we have done, in good conscience, beg His mercy.

We are fucked!

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It works in America
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Apr 13, 2007 2:34 PM   
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why can't divide and rule work in Iraq? The system in the USA has brillantly been set up to pit:
blacks vs whites
mexicans vs whites
women vs men
gays vs evangelicals
illegals vs legals
democrats vs republicans
and on and on and on.
And it works to get the corporately picked candidates elected, for the coffers of the rich to overflow, for the government to become more invasive, to destroy our civil liberties....it should be able to work in Iraq also. They just need to set up a fake political paradigm as they have done in the USA. Not guns but votes (which don't really count anyway) and take the attention away with sex scandals, sports franchises, car-chase movies, porn and 'reality' tv....throw in some drugs (legal or otherwise) and booze and you got yourself a country that is 'good for business'!!!

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BAD THEATRE @ the PARASITE STATE
Posted by: Hal on Apr 15, 2007 1:00 AM   
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“But insurgents are not foreigners, despite the presence of al-Qa'ida in Iraq.”

There is no such animal as the “presence of al-Qa’ida in Iraq” or anywhere else. Al-Qaeda is as big a delusion as bogus “war on terror” and Osama Bin Laden (a.k.a. CIA plant Tim Osman ) as “enemy” of the west . Bad old Al-Qaeda was created by CIA thru Pakistan’s ISI and funded thru Washington with the House of Saud for multinational corporate mobsters.

And if clearly fake and phony “al-Qaeda” cells were not enough to underscore the obvious – Big Oil means, motive and opportunity are the clincher.

Clueless Iraq “war on terror” comments here and elsewhere are almost amusing. Almost…

Conclusion –> blood money stooges in GW Bush, Blair and supporting temp regime whores work for a corporate crime fascist state that rules DC-London and Tel Aviv like bad theatre.

A brothel of a bad theatre owned by and for a corporate parasite state.

As “War is a Racket” Major General Smedley Butler as much as said, significant war was always about public extortion for private profit. But apparently his kind of thinking is as rare for gullible Americans as for “alternate” media.


“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT (on oligarch rule in a letter to handler “Colonel” Edward M. House, confidence man for the cartel and founder of the Council on Foreign Relations. House also handled President Wilson in the foisting of a private and unconstitutional “Federal Reserve” Corporation sham with its IRS in 1913. FDR speaks of monopolists at cartel centers of New York & London that own the U.S. Government. November 21st, l933)

“War is a racket. It always has been… A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small “inside” group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.”
SMEDLEY DARLINGTON BUTLER (Major General - United States Marine Corps. Butler was awarded two Congressional Medals of Honor, for capture of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914, and for capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917. He was also awarded the Distinguished Service Medal, 1919. Among other cartel robber barons, JP Morgan approached S.D. Butler for the Rockefeller-Rothschild bloc in 1934. The plan was for Butler to lead a military overthrow of the U.S. government then headed by FDR. Butler refused the proposed role as front man for an open fascist cartel takeover of America. The coup plan was abandoned for more discrete cartel variations. From his booklet “War is a Racket” 1935. 1881-1940)

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from all indications, Bush is a Suicide President
Posted by: nor cal surfer on Apr 15, 2007 10:08 AM   
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yes, a Suicide President.

perhaps we can all adopt this moniker, before he detonates the whole world on his personal rush to heaven.

the pen is mightier than the sword; may this phrase bring change.

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Bush = Puppet "President" Whose Only Real Decisions are off the White House Menu
Posted by: Hal on Apr 16, 2007 3:16 AM   
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And as a temp stooge of parasite monopoly oligarchs – that hardly makes him unique. Watch cathouse DC next “election” for another cooked round of good cop v bad cop…

“You know, by the time you become the leader of a country, someone else makes all the decisions.”
PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON (in answer to a question as to what he would do if impeached from office over evading the truth about a sexual incident while president. 9/4/1998

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