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War on Iraq

The Crisis Over 15 British Prisoners in Iran Leads to Anywhere But Peace

By Trita Parsi, IPS News. Posted April 2, 2007.


As both the UK and Iran increase the stakes in an effort to gain the upper hand in the negotiations over the 15 captured British soldiers, both sides risk ruling out the option of diplomacy.
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As the dispute over Iran's seizure of British sailors continues to twist and turn, what may have been an isolated incident at the outset is quickly developing into yet another move in the geopolitical chess game between the West and Iran.

The incident took place on Mar. 23 in a disputed waterway between Iraq and Iran. Fifteen British sailors were detained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, and after a few short days of quiet diplomacy, both the British and Iranian governments resorted to fighting their case in public -- a move that significantly reduces the chance of a quick and smooth resolution to the dispute.

From the outset, the British authorities have insisted in stark categorical terms that the sailors were in Iraqi and not Iranian waters. On Wednesday, the British produced GPS coordinates to support their claim, even though the coordinates were from a helicopter that London says hovered over the Indian ship that the sailors had inspected, and not the GPS coordinates of the sailors themselves.

Iran was quick to produce its own evidence. The GPS unit of one of the British sailors, confiscated by the Iranian authorities, shows that the British were not only in Iranian waters at the time of the incident, but that they had crossed over into Iranian waters on five earlier occasions as well, according to Tehran.

Whether the British were in Iranian waters or not -- and whether the Iranians believe the British were in Iranian waters or not -- Tehran seems to be using the incident to regain leverage over the West in the confrontation over its nuclear programme and its rising power and influence in the Middle East.

Much indicates that both Iran and the U.S. have come to recognise that it is becoming increasingly difficult to avoid some sort of diplomatic confrontation between them. This is particularly problematic for the George W. Bush administration, which for several years has adamantly opposed the idea of talking to Tehran.

The sudden realisation of the near-impossibility to avoid real diplomacy caused much anxiety in the Bush administration earlier this year. Washington had no shortage of contingency war plans with Iran -- but no contingency plans for diplomacy, and consequently no preparation for such negotiations.

So when the Iraq Study Group and Congress pushed the White House to recognise the need for diplomacy with Iraq's neighbours, including Iran, the Bush administration balked. It lacked leverage to negotiate with Iran, it said.

"Frankly, right at this moment there's really nothing the Iranians want from us and so in any negotiation right now we would be the supplicant," Secretary of Defence Robert Gates explained. "The only reason to talk to us would be to extract a price, and that's not diplomacy, that's extortion."

If the U.S. lacked leverage over Iran, the answer lied in gaining that leverage. Instead of accepting the Iraq Study Group's recommendation to open talks with Iran, the Bush White House sought to increase the pressure on Iran to gain leverage -- in any way possible.


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Dr. Trita Parsi is the author of "Treacherous Alliances -- The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran and the United States" (Yale University Press, 2007) and is president of the National Iranian American Council

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Lets start a war...
Posted by: Intraspecto on Apr 2, 2007 12:20 AM   
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Here it is folks...Iran is going to be hardnosed, even though clear evidence has been provided, and we are going to back up the Brits on this one. Yes dear friends, war is comming to Iran.

It will happen if the Iranians decide to "try" those British servicemembers.

The leader of Iran is just as much of a crazy whackjob as bush is, and both will rattle sabers until war is declared. I suppose that it will be better to get to done now rather than when Iran has nukes and the will to either blackmail the enitre middle east and much of Europre.

See you all on the far side of the American Apocalypse:)

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treat Iran as an equal
Posted by: edith on Apr 2, 2007 1:24 AM   
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Since 1979 when the mendacious "Jimmy" Carter reigned, the US has taken an arrogant and frankly imperialist position towards Iran. Reagan and W's daddy supported Sadaam's efforts to topple the Shia regime. Now, the US and Britain pour military resources into the Gulf to intimidate Iran. This is all about the ludicrous efforts of the US and the UN Security Council to dictate to Iran what kind of power sources it can develop. For the US which produces 25% of CO2 emissions worldwide, to threaten Iran over develpment of carbon-free nuclear power is ludicrous. As to the potential of nuclear power to create bombs, tell it to the Zionists, Bushie.

An international conference to end the Iraq War is necessary and a grand solution for the area is in order. Normal relations with Iran coupled with US withdrawal from the Middle East, and the complete solution of the Palestine problem is the best guarantee that innocents will not be caught up in the US' power games that are doomed to failure in any case.

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» RE: treat Iran as an equal Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: treat Iran as an equal Posted by: Jayzer
SCARY TIMES!!!
Posted by: Rshaw on Apr 2, 2007 1:58 AM   
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The thought of this is frightening:

EASTER SURPRISE: ATTACK ON IRAN, NEW 9/11… OR WORSE

It's all about controlling resources!

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Britain should be able to handle this one.
Posted by: colinmeister on Apr 2, 2007 3:44 AM   
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THe worst thing for the British government to do would be to allow the United States to take advantage of this situation. Negotiation is obviously the best way out, and should be given its chances without Washington ramping up pressure.

If all else fails, and a military "Solution" is needed, Britain should be strong enough to send the Iranian navy to the bottom of the sea in short order, and mount an effective blockade to prevent any oil exports by sea from Iran. If necessary, Britain also has the capability of bombing out any pipelines used to export oil over land. How long can Iran last with ZERO oil revenues?

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Who do dislike more?
Posted by: The Butcher on Apr 2, 2007 3:52 AM   
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Neither the US nor Iran is showing diplomatic maturity.
Clashes are now inevitable.
How can you side with a unilateralist imperial power on the one hand, whose wealth is based on warring and exploitation, and a hateful repressive Muslim theocracy?
Iran became what it is because of US interference.
USA will lose in Iraq, in Afghan, in Pak, in Iran... just as the whorish Brits failed in India 50 years ago.
No one likes Masters, however benevolent they are.
Look at Latin America!
Who loves America bit the Oligarchs?
It may take generations but no Imperial Power ever has been able to subjugate any Culture.
I personally worked with " so very black people" in Bluefields, Nicaragua. Sons and daughters of slaves imported in 19 C. They still speak some kind of English.
Just now tell me to my face that America is the greatest!
Fuck you all!

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third power intervnetion needed
Posted by: robchapman on Apr 2, 2007 5:03 AM   
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Presumably the British contingent was enforcing UN secutity council mandated duties. Presumably on occasion their small craft crossed the invisible line dividing Iraqi waves from Persian waves, so what?

This is not a matter requiring war or direct diplomacy. This is a matter tailor made for adjudication in an international court of maritime law or arbitration by a disinterested third party.

The mutual unwillingness of Her Majesty's Government and the Islamic Republic of Iran to seek a peaceful settlement through such avenues is inhumane and wrong.

Millions of people are living in war fear because the leaders of the UK and Iran are too politically weak to behave like men.

Shame on them !

Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY

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Is Democracy viable
Posted by: robchapman on Apr 2, 2007 5:12 AM   
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The UK- Iranian standoff is an acid test of whether or not democracy works.

If the New Labor leadership confine themselves to bipartisan action against the Iranians, they will be at the mercy of the Mullahs and Ahemijibad.

Should New Labor find itself able to act from the strength of its convictions, it will seek arbitration and inspection to assure that its personnel are humanely treated.

It is vitally important to regain the captured contingent expeditiously, and it is important that the Royal Navy carry out its self imposed UN security role.

BUT IT IS ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE OF MORE IMPORTANCE THAT THE WESTERN GOVERNMENTS DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY ARE STRONG ENOUGH TO AVOID A GENERAL WAR OVER A VERY MINOR PROVOCATION.

If Blair is stampeded into war with the Iranians over this incident, the reputation of democracy as a viable form of government may be tarnished beyond redemption.

Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY

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» RE: Is Democracy viable Posted by: Basenjis
Those sailors were illegal aliens. So there is nothing wrong with
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Apr 2, 2007 6:14 AM   
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Iran arresting them, questioning them, etc. Eventually though they should be deported after their identity is put into a database. Likewise Europe and America should be defending their borders from the illegal immigrants who seek to move to our countries illegally- often bringing with them disease, crime, and odd cultures. Iran is within their rights defending their borders and we should do likewise.

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Iranians know U.S. presidents are paper tigers.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 2, 2007 6:15 AM   
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JFK invaded Cuba, then lost his nerve after Castro fought back. When North Korea captured the USS Pueblo, LBJ huffed and puffed but did nothing. Carter did the same thing after Iranian "students" captured our embassy in Teran. Reagan bailed out of Beirut when the Marine barracks blew up. GHW Bush proved his weakness by stopping short of Baghdad in Gulf War 1. Clinton sat on his hands when Al Qaeda tried to blow up the World Trade Cnter, then succeeded against the USS Cole. Bush 43 huffed and puffed twice and did nothing – first, when Red China forced down one of our spy planes in 2001 and then again after North Korea joined the nuclear club, which Dub-ya said would not be "tolerated."

With that kind of milk-toast leadership record, why should Iran pay attention to anything the West says?

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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» Wrong on a number of counts Posted by: brunowe
ROFLMAO
Posted by: paschn on Apr 2, 2007 6:22 AM   
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Although it's obvious some posts were made by pseudo-academics, it's amazing how much blanket ignorance, ( for the most part), there is within the comments.

Bush/Israel say Iran is making nukes and we know they NEVER lie.

Other countries say there's NO EVIDENCE they are. Bush is giving Nuclear tech to India.

The terrorist nation of Israel has HAD them for atleast 20 years, along with chemical and biological.

You know, ( well being U.S. citizens you probably DON'T know, but you SHOULD), Bush is a lying, draft-dodging pansy who's grampa was making bucks with the Nazis.

Yet you keep clucking these admonishions about how Iran is doing this wrong and that wrong. The interesting part is gonna be when, ( not if), Israel and SwineBush false flag us into war with Iran how "our boys" fare against China and/or Russia when THEY step up. The U.S. bully-shop is real tough against miniscule nations, wonder how they'll fare against "someone their OWN size".

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» Hah hah hah Posted by: WhatNow?
There will be military confrontation
Posted by: Swedish liberal on Apr 2, 2007 6:50 AM   
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The possibility of Britsh military action is very high if the Iranians to not release the 15 British troops, the British fortunately or unfortunately are not as lenient as the Carter was, they react immediately. Carter’s policies against the totalitarian regime in Iran was disastrous as was George Bush the elders decision not to depose Saddam in 1991. Had Carter stood fast and Bush ideposed Saddam the world would not have seen the emerging of militant islamism, religious fascists.

However should this situation not be solved the British people will in an extremely short while switch from opposition to the Iraqi occupation to a full scale support for continuing military occupation of Iraq and an intervention in Iran. John Bull cannot and will not accept the same humiliation the US government had to endure during the occupation of the US Teheran Embassy; no price will be too high to pay for the British population. You have only to remember the Falklands.

I think that if the writer of the article is correct that the Iranians is doing this as a way of getting to talk to the US directly it is a very big mistake, an extremely dangerous one at that. However we are seeing the same build up in Iran as in the Embassy occupation, student riots outside the UK embassy. You should not forget that Ahmedjani was one of the leading forces behind the occupation of the US embassy.

This is not a scenario the world needs, there are enough problems in the world today to deal with but I did not think that the Iranian situation with their stubbornness to follow UN dictates of ceasing its nuclear program would lead to direct confrontation, now I fear it is not so any longer.

The Brits will surely do something drastic and the US will unfortunately have to follow suit. Blair supported Bush in Iraq II and now it is payback time. Blair like Margret Thatcher does not want to go out as a loser, he wants to be a hero, a winner.

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» You sure are belligerent. Posted by: WhatNow?
» RE: You sure are belligerent. Posted by: Swedish liberal
» Fact is not misinformation but myths are Posted by: Swedish liberal
Fresh Eyes
Posted by: NoPCZone on Apr 2, 2007 7:06 AM   
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What is wrong with this picture?

Take a look at a map and note the location of the U.K.

Take a look and note the location of Iran.

The area where Kuwait, Iraq and Iran's borders come together have long been disputed.

Now ask yourself, what are Brits doing in Iranian waters? Would anybody feel sorry if Iranian sailors were nabbed by the U.K. for conducting Naval operations off the British coast?

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» RE: Fresh Eyes Posted by: colinmeister
I ain't buyin' it !!!
Posted by: Hedda on Apr 2, 2007 7:37 AM   
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Is it just me or does anyone else think this whole thing was a set up? Why do I think this? The Bush administration has a history of getting us into wars based on these "conveniently" timed events.(make it appear as if the "enemy" does something horrific ) The corporate media is just a loud speaker for the war machine, you can not believe any thing they tell you to be a real truth....they tell the population the "big lie" filled with doubletalk. (read 1984)

I feel sorry for these british soldiers they are being sacraficed (by the war machine) and used as a catalyst to go to war w/ Iran. (Thats my take on it anyway...). How in this day in age does this sort of thing happen? From the things I've read about the hostage situation and how it supposedly all went down, there are a lot of holes in this story all the way around......which leads me to believe, it isn't all all what we are being told to think it is!!!

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» RE: I ain't buyin' it !!! Posted by: Basenjis
ultimatum
Posted by: dikaiosyne on Apr 2, 2007 8:30 AM   
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This is what the Brits should do. They should give Iran exactly 48 hours to turn over the hostages or the British navy will sink one Iranian ship per day till they are released. Should the Iranians decide that their navy isn't worth giving up hostages then the Brits should blow the one refinery the Iranians control. Should this fail then the Brits should declare that they will launch as many strikes as needed per day on the personages of the mullahs and the President of Iran Maqmoud Iminneedofjihad till they are all D-E-A-D! Damn shame cause this didn't have to happen. The Brits could of and should of blown the Iranians out of the water when they saw them assaulting the marines.... But the Brits are weak having turned intro Euro-pussies and afraid of engaging in conflict because war is to be avoided at all costs. Hmmm...Sort of like the American State Department. Its the 1930's all over again with the Neville Chamberlain mindset alive and well and controling the path of the demise of the once great British Empire. As an American I'm starting to feel a bit lonely with only the Aussies and a few of the former Eastern Bloc countries with any sort of gumption and courage to do what must be done. Iran needs to be destroyed or at least the religious zealots that rule the country. If it takes a prolonged military engagement to do it....so be it. Do it now before they unleash their planned global jihad on the west.

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» RE: ultimatum Posted by: Basenjis
The Answer "Lied"?
Posted by: vajrasattva1 on Apr 2, 2007 10:09 AM   
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The "answer lied"? What does that mean? Anyone with the most meagre knowledge of grammar can look at that and know it's wrong. Especially someone who calls him/herself a writer. Are there no editors? Will no one think of the editors? Someone save the editors! Or hire one.

Here's what you mean to say, perhaps. "The answer lay in the fact that George Bush lied.

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Diplomacy? Wazzat?
Posted by: willymack on Apr 2, 2007 7:19 PM   
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The muderous thugs in the bush "administration" WANT a war with Iran-even to the point of using nukes on their people. Is there a way to stop these crazy bastards? I don't see anybody making much of an effort in that regard.

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