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War on Iraq

Iraq Study Group Offers No Real Plan for Withdrawal

By Tom Engelhardt, Tomdispatch.com. Posted December 5, 2006.


If we were to follow the recommendations of James Baker's Iraq Study Group, we'd be embedded in Iraq for at least another three to five years.
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President Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki speak to reporters in Jordan. (Credit: REUTERS/Jim Young)
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Finally, the President and the New York Times agree. In a news conference with the Iraqi Prime Minister last week, George W. Bush insisted that there would be no "graceful exit" or withdrawal from Iraq; that this was not "realism." The next day the Times, in a front page piece (as well as "analysis" inside the paper) pointed out that, "despite a Democratic election victory this month that was strongly based on antiwar sentiment, the idea of a major and rapid withdrawal seems to be fading as a viable option."

In fact, in the media, as in the counsels of James A. Baker's Iraq Study Group, withdrawal without an adjective or qualifying descriptor never arrived as a "viable option." In fact, withdrawal, aka "cut and run," has never been more than a passing foil, one useful "extreme" guaranteed to make the consensus-to-come more comforting.

On Wednesday, at the end of a gestation period nearly long enough to produce a human baby, the Baker committee -- by now, according to the Washington Post's Robin Wright, practically "a parallel policy establishment" -- will hand over to the President its eagerly anticipated "consensus" report, its "compromise" plan that takes the "middle road," that occupies a piece of inside-the-Beltway "middle ground," and that will almost certainly be the policy equivalent of a still birth.

Whatever satisfaction it briefly offers, it might as well be sent directly to the Baghdad morgue. At a length of perhaps 100 pages, evidently calling for an "aggressive" diplomatic engagement with neighboring Iran and Syria -- even unofficial American officials advocating diplomacy just can't seem to avoid some form of "aggression" -- it will also, Washington Post reporters Wright and Thomas Ricks assure us, call for "a major withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq" (no timetables, naturally).

It will evidently suggest the following: Talk to those hostile neighbors; "embed" swarms of still-to-be-trained military advisors with Iraqi troops where, so far, they have had little luck except in generating scads of complaints; pull out (or back into our massive Iraqi bases) American "combat forces," except for those slated to be part of an in-country "rapid reaction force," not to speak of all those American trainers and logistics experts; and accomplish this by perhaps early 2008.

All of this will be termed a "short" period of time to change U.S. policy and the path to be headed down will be labeled "phased withdrawal" or the beginning of an "exit strategy." Oh, and while we're at it, make sure to suggest that we embed many of those "redeployed" troops just "over the horizon," probably in Kuwait and some set of small Gulf states, where they can theoretically strike at will in Iraq if the government and military we plan to "stabilize" there turns out to be endangered (as, of course, it will be).

Put in a nutshell, the Iraq Study Group plan -- should it ever be put into effect -- might accomplish the following: As a start, it would in no way affect our essential network of monumental permanent bases in Iraq (where, many billions of dollars later, concrete is still being poured); it would leave many less "combat" troops but many more "advisors" in-country to "stand up" the Iraqi Army (tactics already tried, at the cost of many billions of dollars, and just about sure to fail); many more American troops will find themselves either imprisoned on those vast bases of ours in Iraq or on similar installations in the "neighborhood" where they are likely to bring so many of our problems with them. And those aggressive chats with the neighbors, whose influence in Iraq is overestimated in any case, are unlikely to proceed terribly well because the Bush administration will arrive at the bargaining table, if at all, with so little to offer (except lectures).


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Tom Engelhardt, who runs the Nation Institute's Tomdispatch.com, is the co-founder of the American Empire Project and, most recently, the author of Mission Unaccomplished: Tomdispatch Interviews with American Iconoclasts and Dissenters (Nation Books), the first collection of Tomdispatch interviews.

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Long Tunnel - No light
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 5, 2006 12:51 AM   
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There is no light at the end of this tunnel. Not even a flicker. Not even a hint of a flicker. The First Fool says that the American people should not expect a "graceful exit" from Iraq. Well who the hell in their right mind is expecting that?? The fact is this: whether it be in 2008 or 2038, America's exit from Iraq will not be graceful - far from it. America will retreat from Iraq will be in utter humiliating defeat. This war is over - get used to the idea.

We will lose this war and we deserve to lose it. It was brought about against international law and opinion. The fact that this was the stupidest military blunder in American history was, from before day one, obvious to every thinking American - all twelve of us. The damage that this murderous, half-witted little thug has done to our once-great nation and the planet will be palpable a century and a half from now.

One thing is certain: the Dems now have the power of the supeona and they'll use it if they know what's good for them. 'Tis a wonderful thing, indeed, to behold this disgusting administration as it starts to implode before our very eyes. The rats are jumping from the sinking ship and they're starting to turn on themselves. Of this you can be sure: 2007 will be the most tumultuos political year since the eighteen sixties If you thought the Watergate era was fun - OH BROTHER! Hang on to your hats, kiddies!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: Long Tunnel - No light....sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» RE: Long Tunnel - No light Posted by: Conservasaurus
» But Conservasaurus! Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: But Conservasaurus! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: But Conservasaurus! Posted by: brunowe
» RE: But Conservasaurus! Posted by: pingoo
» RE: But Conservasaurus! Posted by: hms2004
» RE: But Conservasaurus! Posted by: hms2004
» RE: But Conservasaurus! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Simplified B.S., Conservasaurus. Posted by: decembrist
» RE: Long Tunnel - No light? Posted by: hayduke1
» RE: Long Tunnel - No light Posted by: symcokid
» RE: Long Tunnel - No light Posted by: Uncle Crabby
» RE: Long Tunnel - No light Posted by: hms2004
» RE: Long Tunnel - No light Posted by: symcokid
» RE: Long Tunnel - No light Posted by: kencohen
» RE: Long Tunnel - No light Posted by: seanbrookes
phased
Posted by: rsaxto on Dec 5, 2006 12:57 AM   
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What it is is phased stupidity, phased propaganda, phased death and phased defeat. No one in USA abject power has the common sense and sense of reality to just announce that we are giving all of our bases and our embassy in Iraq to Iraq as a gift and we are quickly withdrawing all Americans, military and civilian and let the Iraqis create their own govenment in total without any US input whatsoever. Any government they could possibly create would be better than the current americanized monstrocity. Withdraw everything withdrawable and let the Iraqis do their own thing with no oversight whatsoever. That's called real government and real sovereignty, what every nation needs.

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» Coup Two? Posted by: edith
» RE: Coup Two?sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» RE: Coup Two? Posted by: rsaxto
» Phased Death and Phased Defeat Posted by: decembrist
Carlyle Group
Posted by: edith on Dec 5, 2006 1:08 AM   
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They're baaack.

http://911myths.com/html/carlyle_group.html

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» RE: Carlyle Group Posted by: Conservasaurus
Hee haw...
Posted by: Zemiti on Dec 5, 2006 3:39 AM   
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How did the US end up with a dumb ass commander-in -chief like Bush? Who was the last "intellectual president" America had? Have to scratch your head not? If his presidency is taken as a reflection of special interests like big business, then we now see what kind of people run big business and how most of them became captains of industry/acquired their wealth. What do these people talk about when they are together?? Perhaps an expose would tell us. "Dignified exit!", PAH! Iraq may yet turn out to be the Republican's (depends on what the Dems do this time around) and US's Waterloo. And to think, we told you so...

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» RE: Hee haw...sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
» RE: Hee haw... Posted by: hms2004
» RE: Hee haw... Posted by: MonkeyBoy
Did anyone really expect....sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Dec 5, 2006 3:51 AM   
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a definitive plan to get out of Iraq? I didn't, just by the ones who were chosen to head it. I always respected Lee Hamilton as a good Congressman till he participated in the 9 11 farce. Now I view him as a hack going along with the powers that be and expect nothing more from this waste of the taxpayers' money than we got from the 9 11 Commission

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No Withdrawal Ever.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Dec 5, 2006 4:43 AM   
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I don't believe Bush or the Democratic controlled Congress will withdraw troops from Iraq. If anything, the Congress will authorize more troops for this foolish war.

Why would the Congress give Mr. Bush more troops, money and time?

Because to withdraw would destroy the US Dollar as the world base currency. That would cause a world wide economic disaster, which would have huge consequences for world political power.

Bush and his advisors knew this before going into Iraq. And he knew the uninformed American people would be stuck with his self serving discisions for decades.

The Constitution needs an overhaul. The public must have more control over their elected representatives; and be informed more about the plans and piccadilos of our politicians.

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» RE: No Withdrawal Ever. Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: No Exit Strategy Ever... Posted by: lessbread
» RE: No Withdrawal Ever. Posted by: hms2004
call out the congress
Posted by: billyboy43 on Dec 5, 2006 5:58 AM   
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Members of Congress returned to Washington, DC, yesterday, Monday, December 4, to discuss their legislative priorities for the new session. Let's greet them with a flood of phone calls, because many still don't understand that the troops need to come home from Iraq -- NOW! Even Harry Reid, the Senate Democratic leader, has said "We're not going to do anything to limit funding or cut off funds."

We can't let the new Democratic leadership sit back on their hands and refuse to take responsibility for the Iraq war. YOU can help send this message to Congress. Here's what to do:

- Call the Congressional Swithboard at 202.224.3121 and ask for the office of your Representative or Senators.

- Ask to talk to the foreign policy advisor. If he or she is not there, ask to leave a voicemail.

- Once you have them on the phone, use these talking points:

1. This election was about the Iraq war, and we want a change!

2. I insist that Congress act immediately to bring all U.S. troops home from Iraq NOW! This includes limiting funding ONLY to withdrawal.

3. The US needs to pursue regional diplomacy for Iraq's future. It is the only way that the Middle East can find a way out of the chaos the US has created.

4. Congress has the power to end the U.S. occupation in Iraq and if it fails to do so, we will hold them responsible for the continued violence in Iraq.

Please make 3 phone calls: to your Representative and to each of your Senators. Call the Capitol Switchboard TODAY at 202.224.3121 and help ensure that a withdrawal from Iraq will be a top priority!

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» RE: call out the congress Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: call out the congress Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: call out the congress Posted by: atruedemocrat
HE LIKES IT THE WAY IT IS
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 5, 2006 6:13 AM   
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Bush alone is responsible for the war in Iraq. It was the only plan he had going into office. There are ways out. We can leave with dignity and stop the killing and destruction. There are fortunes being made on the war and it goes on for no other reason. His father's friends are top benfactors. I do believe that it's up to the American people to put an end to it. For those of you old enough to remember, that's what finally brough an end to Viet Nam. We did. Thanks, ANNA

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The "In's and Out's" of Iraq
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Dec 5, 2006 6:14 AM   
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To think the US could just “pull out” of Iraq, poof, gone the next day is a bit naïve. Try to find partners anywhere that will extend themselves to help fight terrorism after that exit.. The US would never be trusted again in foreign circles.

Progressives would delight in this as it would confirm their predictions that Bush is evil, the repubs are devils etc..etc..

As far as withdrawing on a time table.. why on earth would we want to announce a timetable that would jeopardize our troops??? Does anyone have a logical answer? What purpose would it have?

As for Iran and Syria, the author says their part in Iraq is overestimated???.. I hesitate to suggest that he hasn’t done his research or maybe he is just spinning it “left” for the sake of the article. The Shia’s main leader now, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim was exiled in Iran during Saddam’s reign of terror.

He rose to power in Iran as the head of SCIRI's armed wing, the Badr Brigade - The Sunni's accused him that his party is behind of the hundreds of weekly killings.

Iran is predominately Shia. He’s back and so are his Iranian back insurgents. Hakim stated in his meeting with Bush that the US has to do more to stop the Sunni backed terrorist. Said differently Iran wants the US to finish destroying the Sunni’s , their old enemy, for them!

To suggest the Iran connection is overstated confirms the authors politically induced blindness.

Additionally, the administration was criticized for not rethinking the Iraq war, now the author is criticizing them for “over thinking” the war? Lets be realistic here. To just pull out will have disastrous implications for the US and our allies. It will embolden terrorism in my view. While we shouldn’t have gone in Iraq in the first place with ground forces, we better make sure we exit correctly.

This could have been an information filled article but instead, it is just another effort at "left" leaning misinformation

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» RE: OUT NOW! - No other answer. Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: OUT NOW! - No other answer. Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: The "In's and Out's" of Iraq Posted by: Democritus
» RE: The "In's and Out's" of Iraq Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: The "In's and Out's" of Iraq Posted by: outsideagitator
» RE: The "In's and Out's" of Iraq Posted by: Conservasaurus
wel...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Dec 5, 2006 6:19 AM   
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... of course not.

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There never was an exit strategy
Posted by: Democritus on Dec 5, 2006 6:50 AM   
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Euphoric from the November thumping the American people gave Bush and his political party, Democrats need to sober up quickly. The war party (made up of members of both political parties) will still control Congress, and the president is unflinching in his resolve to stay in Iraq no matter how many more people are going to die. Why this is so goes back to the real reasons the invasion took place: (1) control of Iraqi oil, (2) permanent bases to protect the oil and provide a watchdog role over other oil-rich countries in the Middle East, and (3) permanent security for Israel from burgeoning Arab populations. These reasons are still operative in the minds of those in the White House and the majority of members of the new Congress (including Hillary Clinton and Rahm Emanuel). The only way we're going to get out of Iraq is to disavow those three aims. The reasons for doing so are both ethical and practical. On the ethical side, there is no justification for occupying a country, killing its citizens, and forcing our will upon it--especially since this country did not provide any threat to us. It goes without saying that it is also unethical to send our military to lose their lives in such a venture. It is also unethical for us to provide military support for Israel when they use it to kill Palestinian and Lebanese citizens. On the practical side, we have seen in South America that other oil-rich countries are now wary of our intentions and have turned away from us. European countries have long known our intentions and have looked askance at our brazen efforts to become a hegemon in the Middle East. When we ask them for help in future crises, it will not come willingly. Muslim nations, justifiably worried about our propaganda efforts to demonize them and their religion, will see more of their young men and women turning their hatred upon us, especially as they see how we have let Israel turn Gaza into a giant prison. So we have solid reasons to buck the war party in Congress and the White House. The only way to do this is to keep the pressure on--write letters and editorials, vow not to re-elect those who want to keep the occupation in place; make it clear to our elected representatives that we don't want any more shilly-shallying. The way to get out of Iraq is simply to get out. Leave the oil, leave the bases, and instruct Israel that we are no longer going to support its ongoing war against the Palestinians with our military aid. That, plus providing money to rebuild what we have destroyed in Iraq, will go a long way toward resolving our ethical and practical dilemmas.

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get the hell out..
Posted by: xenacat on Dec 5, 2006 7:18 AM   
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Getting out of Iraq ASAP is the only sensible thing to do. We destroyed thier country and have seriously damaged ours so that Dubya could play at being a war time president. We should hang our heads in collective shame, give our bases to the Iraqis and let them try and recover on thier own. We only inflame the intolerable situation further by being there. More and more of our precious troops are slaugthered each day as we waste time over largely academic discussions. The cost to Iraqi civilians is beyond appalling - they are burning each other alive now because we have unleashed the sectarian hatreds that were contained before. There is no solution, no remedy for this disaster other than immediate withdrawal. It is unbearable to think the United States created this situation merely so some very spoiled rich boy could indulge his fantasy of being a great leader...

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simple answer
Posted by: robmikejas on Dec 5, 2006 7:21 AM   
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Get out of Iraq. Immediately. Re-invest in American infrastructure and Education. Impeach and imprison Bush and his cohorts. Stop the prideful uttering of the words " World's only super power". Learn the meaning of the word Humility. Initiate a countrywide study of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Administer the laws of this land with a true sense of humility and tolerant justice. Re-establish seperation of church and state. Become the America we were intended to be at the very beginning.

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Must Be "Tough Talk Tuesday" - here already?
Posted by: MAD on Dec 5, 2006 7:59 AM   
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Well I see everyone is hot under the collar and frothing at the mouth over the latest findings coming from Big Daddy's (that's GHWB) farcical business venture, er, fact-finding commission. So everyone wants to bring the war to an expedient end right? I also see that most readers are still *sigh* relying on the Dems to "bring 'em home". Well here's something you should know right now: The Dems are going to do exactly fuck all to end this debacle and you know it. Can you say "vested interests"?

Well good luck with everything. Keep writing those menacing letters and emails to your Democratic leaders. Be sure to read each and every form letter or email you get in return lest you miss some important information. Who knows - you may be the one person who gets the classified letter of intent to withdrawal. LOL!! Be sure to keep voicing your disgust with your friends and spouses instead of getting off your asses and doing something. Better to let the Dems take their sweet time and end it sometime towards the end of this decade. Don't even consider blocking interstates and risk getting arrested for what you believe in - oh heavens no!! Don't even think about that. Don't do anything to embarrass yourselves like dissent and take action. Don't picket or boycott companies that are making a hefty profit. Don't organize boycotts of any kind. You all love to remind other readers how it's all about the $$$. Well if that's the case then hit 'em where it hurts . . .

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Iraq "study" group
Posted by: willymack on Dec 5, 2006 8:20 AM   
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C'mon, folks, let's tell it as it is. The "study" group is nothing more than a smokescreen for the public on one hand, and a warning to georgiepoo that if he keeps screwing everything up, poppy will take his toys away from him, on the other. The bushies don't want "victory" in Iraq or on the phony "war on terror"; they hope both these tragedies last forever, so that the war profits keep rolling in. It doesn't matter that dubya is a billionaire with more money than even he can squander. He has a sickness called GREED, for which there is no cure.

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Neo-Cons lost, Old School Realists Won
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Dec 5, 2006 8:24 AM   
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the old crowd used the crypto-facist leanings, the virulent zionism, evangelical idealism, and polly-annish 'freemarket' ideals of the neo-cons for their own goals. They allowed them to start the war, fake the evidence, get bogged down and now the neo-cons can be pushed out for the old school blue-blood realists like Baker, Kissinger, Gates, elder Bush, etc. Despite their insanity at least the neo-cons has a worthwhile goal (in theory) to bring 'democracy' to the world. The Kissingers, Brzezinskis, and Bakers of the world have no such goal or illusions. They want the war to give us more footholds in the Middle East, disrupt energy prices, get fat contracts for defense consortiums, and help take reformist pressures off 'friendly' despots like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, etc. Look forward to more 'actions' in the upper middle asia and former Soviet republics (a Brzezinski goal.) Yee haw!!

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Don't expect them to give up the gravytrain...
Posted by: MonkeyBoy on Dec 5, 2006 8:30 AM   
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There's too much money to be left on the table for the Military Industrial Complex and the Oilmen if we pull out of Iraq. Any other reason given for staying is just BS.

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Here's Your "Exit Strategy"
Posted by: MAD on Dec 5, 2006 9:30 AM   
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Look for this scenario to emerge as the race to the bottom of viable exit strategies continues . . .

US troops withdraw to heavily fortified bases that are under construction as we speak. You know . . . the bases with fast-food restaurants and and swimming pools - in the desert! Anyway, look for most troops to retreat back to those bases (coincidentally located near oil fields I'm sure) so they can safely take in "the show". The show in this case being the all out bloodbath that will ensue once all remnants of military order (if that's not an oxy-moron I don't know what is) have vanished from the streets of Fallujah, Baghdad, Ramadi, Basra, etc. Look for this to continue for a couple years with reinforcements pouring in to fight an Islamic proxy war in Iraq.

Expect American hired guns like Blackwater Thugs, Inc. to venture out for the occasional death squad mass killing should there ever be an actual lull in the violence. Maybe blow up a sacrd Sunni mosque or something along those lines. Anything to facilitate the sectarian slaughter.

Now comes the big decision. The EU, Russia and China along with the rest of the world players will be watching in horror as blood flows in the streets. The MSM plays it up or buries the extent of the violence for reasons I'll explain below. Now, one of two things happens. The US waits for a weakend Iraq to reassert authority over the country or the international community sends in a multi-national force to end the bloodshed. With the MSM hamming it up, a multi-national force arrives that much quicker. With the story buried, the US waits it out and tries to reassert control, again, going it alone. Iran and Syria certainly factor greatly into this scenario but to what degree I am unsure. I expect that the US might even encourage Shi'ites to enter the fray while simultaneously arming Sunnis. Who knows. In any event, a country racked by years of civil war may be brought to heel more easily by the US or a multi-national force.

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» RE: Here's Your "Exit Strategy" Posted by: outsideagitator
» RE: Here's Your "Exit Strategy" Posted by: TheStranger
Living in denial
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Dec 5, 2006 10:34 AM   
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Here it is, well said and worth reposting. I'd just add that the Money Party Democrats who also serve the vested corporate interests are also in denial.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article2029238.ece

"Robert Fisk: Like Hitler and Brezhnev, Bush is in denial
Published: 01 December 2006
More than half a million deaths, an army trapped in the largest military debacle since Vietnam, a Middle East policy already buried in the sands of Mesopotamia - and still George W Bush is in denial. How does he do it? How does he persuade himself - as he apparently did in Amman yesterday - that the United States will stay in Iraq "until the job is complete"? The "job" - Washington's project to reshape the Middle East in its own and Israel's image - is long dead, its very neoconservative originators disavowing their hopeless political aims and blaming Bush, along with the Iraqis of course, for their disaster.

History's "deniers" are many - and all subject to the same folly: faced with overwhelming evidence of catastrophe, they take refuge in fantasy, dismissing evidence of collapse as a symptom of some short-term setback, clinging to the idea that as long as their generals promise victory - or because they have themselves so often promised victory - that fate will be kind. George W Bush - or Lord Blair of Kut al-Amara for that matter - need not feel alone. The Middle East has produced these fantasists by the bucketful over past decades."


Let me also point out that the real issue that Baker and Rice obsess over is how they are going to maintain their grip over Iraq's oil reserves. The corporate media won't touch this topic; even Fisk and Engelhardt (who are great writers, don't get me wrong) shy away from the primary importance of the oil issue (though Joshua Holland did tackle it at http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/43045/.) That's the fundamental difference between Vietnam and Iraq - the oil, and the fact that global oil supplies are getting very tight. Otherwise, the Iraq-Vietnam comparison is very valid. If you look at a map of Iraq's oil fields and refineries, and the location of the 'permanent miltary bases' - surprise, surprise, they're right on top of each other.

For the real skinny, you've got to hop over to Asia:
Saudi-Iran tension fuels wider conflict
By Kaveh L Afrasiabi

and
Japan energy: Goodbye Iran, hello Iraq
By Hisane Masaki

If it it weren't for the internet...for heaven's sake, let's preserve net neutrality.

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» RE: Living in denial Posted by: outsideagitator
AS THE REPUBLIC SINKS, WE SEEK COMFORT FROM LIAR GATES, FIXER-IN-CHIEF BAKER
Posted by: TheStranger on Dec 5, 2006 1:34 PM   
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Robert Gates will sail through the Senate as the next Defense Secretary, not on his merits, but because everyone is so pleased to have Anybody But Rumsfeld. And James Baker, named to head a commission on what to do about Iraq, profits from a similar dynamic. Most of us are so happy to have at least a small shot at changing Prince George’s disastrous non-policy in the Middle East that we skip over the fact that Baker is the general who led the campaign that stole the presidency for Bush-O-Ramus in the first place.

Fix-Master Baker knew he didn’t have to present a winning case in 2000 – not with five Republicans on the Supreme Court. He just needed to construct one that was sufficiently plausible so they could get away with calling Florida for the guy who lost Florida as well as the national popular vote by a margin of 530,000.

Baker spat out just enough lawyer-speak to give the Gang of Five their excuse, landing the most egregious blow to our democracy since the Dred Scott decision. If roles were reversed, if Baker had an actual winning hand instead of the bluffing cards he used to get the victory, it wouldn’t have taken him an entire month. Swindles are more complicated and take more work than honest business.

Back to Gates. At least two CIA whistle-blowers told Congress under oath that he’d doctored intelligence under orders from the secret society within the Administration that got Reagan re-elected while he was already debilitated from Alzheimer’s. The group then ran the government for him. Baker, first White House Chief of Staff and later Treasury Secretary when he switched jobs with Donald Regan, was a key member of this collective presidency to whom Gates gave his allegiance.

Under oath, Gates, desperate to run the spy agency, denied conversations during which he defended presenting false intelligence for political purposes. With Nixon's old tape recorder in a museum somewhere, he got away with it -- just barely.

Gates took a giant step forward when he conceded today that the U.S. is not winning the Iraq War, and Anybody But Rumsfeld makes a kind of sense. But he also made it clear to anyone really listening that he doesn't have the imagination to exit, which is a death sentence to a lot of troops there now and the ones he'll feed into a pointless grinder during the next two years. It would be a mistake to buy a used car from either this devious ward heeler or co-conspirator and Fixer-in-Chief Baker.
From Digging Deeper, by Ivan G. Goldman
http://ivangoldman.blogspot.com/

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Follow the Money
Posted by: Sparks56 on Dec 5, 2006 3:15 PM   
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There are as many contractors in Iraq as soldiers. They are making grand theft dough as we quibble about withdraw/stay the course. That's what this war is all about; the looting of the Federal treasury now and into the future for 50 years. The original goal of nailing down Iraqi oil and undermining OPEC may or may not still be achievable. Be that as it may, there is still a river of money flowing from the many to the pockets of the few. Those few, who sponsored Bush and pull his strings, will drag this out for as long as they can, as long as the US gov't. can borrow the cash. Some of those string-pullers are on the Baker-Hamilton Commission.
It's all about the money!

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BAD COPS @ the VAMPIRE STATE
Posted by: Hal on Dec 5, 2006 4:08 PM   
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ONE MORE TIME:

After a 911 false-flag attack, the plan was simple enough. As Colin Powell as much as said – the idea going in was to “break” Iraq so that a corporate crime state that rules a whorehouse Washington and MSM could “own” it.

This would be accomplished thru a trumped up Orwellian “war on terror” without end.

Put another way, Iraq War Inc. is a key part of a divide and conquest scheme for the Mid East and Eurasian theatres decades and more in the planning.

The Hamilton-Baker mob (emphasis on Baker) is part of the same crew that foisted 911 cover-up and its arrantly bogus “war on terror” at public cost for private greed.

Global village idiot GW Bush and primary Iraq War planner “neo-con” Paul Wolfowitz were chosen to front the “bad cop” end of the plan.

Now it’s all bad theatre as we get the first “good cop” in a Hamilton-Baker mob to rescue BushCo’s “bad cop” (a Democratic flunky regime in ’08 fronted by someone like oligarch shill Barak Obama will be the next bogus “good cop”).

But James Baker’s “good cop” routine to puppet boy GW Bush’s “bad cop” is a transparent farce. As it turns out Baker is at least as dirty. Aside from Baker’s corrupt BushCo Big Oil and cartel banking hooks, he was lead council in defending the House of Saud against the 911 families.

This is the same House of Saud that offered up its favorite CIA son Osama Bin Laden (CIA asset codename Tim Osman) to play out his final act from Dubai in 2000 where CIA handlers wound up old Timmy as a shill for a false-flag 911 op. This is also the same House of Saud in bed with every corporate snake from DC to London. And the same House of Saud that financed CIA created Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood for going on a billion dollars.

To recap: the plan from decades before the unanimously Senate passed neo-con “Iraq Liberation Act” of 1998 was to install a series of puppet garrison states from Iraq to Afghanistan as beachheads to dominate the greater region for an oligarch ruled corporate crime state. There will be no real deviation from the original plan. Any pretense of a plan change will be a red herring.

So, there are virtually no “good cops” here. They are dirty as the cartel system they flog. And in a core sense, these are the acts of a blood money Vampire State. One with less than no interest in real democracy or free market capitalism that are pumped as empty slogans from MSM to Washington carnival barkers.

Quotes worth repetition:

“LET’S LOOK AT IT SIMPLY. THE MOST IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NORTH KOREA AND IRAQ IS THAT ECONOMICALLY, WE JUST HAD NO CHOICE IN [INVADING AND CONQUERING] IRAQ. THE COUNTRY SWIMS ON A SEA OF OIL.”
PAUL WOLFOWITZ (“neo-con” US Deputy Defense Secretary and chief architect of the Iraq War in effect admitting “war on terror” was fought over Big Oil factors. He gave this response to a question as to why the U.S. made war on Iraq and not North Korea, a country that is developing nuclear weapons of mass destruction. Quoted from a talk to an Asian security summit in Singapore 5/ 31/03)


“OIL IS MUCH TOO IMPORTANT A COMMODITY TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF THE ARABS.”

“MILITARY MEN ARE JUST DUMB, STUPID, ANIMALS TO BE USED AS PAWNS IN FOREIGN POLICY.”
HENRY KISSINGER (ex American Secretary of State as a member of the Trilateral Commission & Bilderberger Group. Henry Kissinger appointed Paul Bremer to oversee the conquest and occupation of Iraq on 5/6/2003. Living. Quotes 1991 & 1990)

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A Crusade Gone Badly
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Dec 5, 2006 4:43 PM   
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Our latest excursion into the Middle East continues to be a disaster and now our Tweedle Dum leader in the White House and his henchmen don't have a plan to bring the troops home. To them, to pull out after expending billions of dollars and countless deaths, is admitting to "defeat." Defeat? We have the advantage of firepower but not in the will to fight by the army. You never hear of the "coalition."
After four years we can't secure the main highway from the capital to the airport. We can't lick the Taliban who are as resurgent and resilient as the Red Army in 1943. Just when you thought they were beaten....
Americans thought this latest crusade in the Middle Eastern sandbox would be a wild ride. We brought our picnic baskets and electronic devices to the "game". We plastered yellow ribbons on our vehicles, waved flags and see them march off to war to a place more than eight thousand miles away.
We saw them climb aboard ships ten stories high, armed to the teeth. We cloaked ourselves in patriotism and arrogance.
It was a fascinating display of bombs bursting in air, men fighting blinding sandstorms, and routing the outmanned Iraqi army.
Now reality has set in. We've grown tired of the war. At times it's not even front page news or lead evening newscasts. We went shopping after Thanksgiving than to pay attention to the incredible carnage in Iraq. People fought and jostled in line to get the latest PS3 or whatever electronic gizmo offered on the market. Egads...
Let's hope we can find an exit off this war road before we ruin ourselves further. The war crusade has long ceased being a joy ride.

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Shouldn't the Iraqi people decide?
Posted by: RobertGoard on Dec 6, 2006 5:17 AM   
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Just announcing a referendum might stop the civil war. Voting is a healing process. That is one of the great powers of democracy. Remember what happened to the civil war in Nicaragua the day after an election was held. THE WAR ENDED IMMEDIATELY.

This is their country, shouldn’t they decide?

We sent our troops into Iraq; we sacrificed American lives specifically to bring democracy to this troubled land, and to allow the voice of the Iraqi people to be freely heard. Iraq is still not a democracy. We have still not given the people of Iraq a real chance to be heard, a real chance to vote on anything significant. Voting for a government that can’t quite govern and doesn’t quite represent the people amounts to not quite voting. The nation of Iraq is at war with itself over issues that can be decided by a real vote.

The people of Iraq are still not free and they will not be free until THEY decided by referendum if American troops stay or go. It then will be and it then can be up to the Iraqi people to decide if democracy is to endure.

Isn’t it time to at least try a little democracy? It was always our plan to leave Iraq. Shouldn’t we seize this opportunity to stop the bloodshed and leave with honor, whether or not we are asked to stay a bit longer?

We say NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF DEMOCRACY!

Learn more at http://iraqvotes.com/

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Leaving Iraq
Posted by: conductor274 on Dec 6, 2006 2:57 PM   
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The US will leave Iraq for the most part after the end of december. That's when the deadline for signing the new Oil Law expires. The Production Sharing Agreements (PSA's) will be in place and will form the major part of that law and they'll be in force for decades to come no matter who is in control of the Iraqi government. The PSA's guarantee the majority of Iraqi oil will be under US control. That was the reason for the war in the first place. The lies about WMD's, chemical weapons labs, nuclear weapons production, Iraq being responsible for 911, etc. have all been disproved. And democracy certainly hasn't been brought to Iraq.

Iraqi oil is considered the lightest, sweetest and least expensive to produce in the world. Estimates are it can be produced for about $1.50 a barrel and that includes exploration, oil field development and production. Iraq is also considered to have the largest amount of oil of any country in the world.

The troops have done their job. The oil has been secured for the US. Time to go home and only leave enough planes at the air bases to ensure it's production.

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Iraq Study Group Asks, "When Will We Ever Learn To Talk?" ©
Posted by: Betsy L. Angert on Dec 7, 2006 5:31 PM   
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Dear Tom Engelhardt . . .

I thank you for this diagnosis of a dire situation. I agree; the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group report do not provide for a "graceful exit." Surprising to me, I concur with Bush, there will be no "willowy withdrawal." However, I think the notion is flawed. A nation or a "leader" cannot gracefully exit, after they bumble and stumble their way into a situation. An egress is as an entrance; one reflects the other.

I think the report was lacking, though I expected that. Nevertheless, for me, the study did cast one shining light. The idea of "talk" was mentioned repeatedly.

As I assess every aspect of my life, or evaluate history, I am continually reminded; there is power in calm caring, communication.

I invite you to read my missive on the topic. Please share your thoughts; comment if you will. I welcome a dialogue. If only George W. Bush ever had, if only he would.

Iraq Study Group Asks, "When Will We Ever Learn To Talk?" ©

Betsy L. Angert
BeThink.org or Be-Think

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