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War on Iraq

White House Wants A Wider Mid-East War

By Robert Parry, Consortium News. Posted August 7, 2006.


George W. Bush and his neoconservative advisers saw the Israel-Hezbollah conflict as a chance to get the Israelis to spread the war to Syria and achieve the long-sought goal of 'regime change' in Damascus.
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George W. Bush and his neoconservative advisers saw the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah as an opportunity to expand the conflict into Syria and possibly achieve a long-sought "regime change" in Damascus, but Israel's leadership balked at the scheme, according to Israeli sources.

One Israeli source said Bush's interest in spreading the war to Syria was considered "nuts" by some senior Israeli officials, although Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has generally shared Bush's hard-line strategy against Islamic militants.

After rebuffing Bush's suggestion about attacking Syria, the Israeli government settled on a strategy of mounting a major assault in southern Lebanon aimed at rooting out Hezbollah guerrillas who have been firing Katyusha rockets into northern Israel.

In an article on July 30, the Jerusalem Post hinted at the Israeli rejection of Bush's suggestion of a wider war in Syria. "Defense officials told the Post last week that they were receiving indications from the US that America would be interested in seeing Israel attack Syria," the newspaper reported.

On July 18, Consortiumnews.com reported that the Israel-Lebanon conflict had revived the Bush administration's neoconservative hopes that a new path had opened "to achieve a prized goal that otherwise appeared to be blocked for them -- military assaults on Syria and Iran aimed at crippling those governments."

The article went on to say:

After the fall of Baghdad in April 2003 -- after only three weeks of fighting -- the question posed by some Bush administration officials was whether the U.S. military should go "left or right," to Syria or Iran. Some joked that "real men go to Tehran."

According to the neocon strategy, "regime change" in Syria and Iran, in turn, would undermine Hezbollah, the Shiite militia that controls much of southern Lebanon, and would strengthen Israel's hand in dictating peace terms to the Palestinians.

But the emergence of a powerful insurgency in Iraq -- and a worsening situation for U.S. forces in Afghanistan -- stilled the neoconservative dream of making George W. Bush a modern-day Alexander conquering the major cities of the Middle East, one after another.

Bush's invasion of Iraq also unwittingly enhanced the power of Iran's Shiite government by eliminating its chief counterweight, the Sunni regime of Saddam Hussein. With Iran's Shiite allies in control of the Iraqi government and a Shiite-led government also in Syria, the region's balance between the two rival Islamic sects was thrown out of whack.

The neocon dream of "regime change" in Syria and Iran never died, however. It stirred when Bush accused Syria of assisting Iraqi insurgents and when he insisted that Iran submit its nuclear research to strict international controls. The border conflict between Israel and Lebanon now has let Bush toughen his rhetoric again against Syria and Iran.

In an unguarded moment during the G-8 summit in Russia on July 17, Bush -- speaking with his mouth full of food and annoyed by suggestions about United Nations peacekeepers -- told British Prime Minister Tony Blair "what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit."

Not realizing that a nearby microphone was turned on, Bush also complained about suggestions for a cease-fire and an international peacekeeping force. "We're not blaming Israel and we're not blaming the Lebanese government," Bush said, suggesting that the blame should fall on others, presumably Hezbollah, Syria and Iran.

Meanwhile, John Bolton, Bush's ambassador to the United Nations, suggested that the United States would only accept a multilateral U.N. force if it had the capacity to take on Hezbollah's backers in Syria and Iran.

"The real problem is Hezbollah," Bolton said. "Would it [a U.N. force] be empowered to deal with countries like Syria and Iran that support Hezbollah?" [NYT, July 18, 2006]

Strategy Meetings

Though the immediate conflict between Israel and Hezbollah was touched off by a Hezbollah cross-border raid on July 12 that captured two Israeli soldiers, the longer-term U.S.-Israeli strategy can be traced back to the May 23, 2006, meetings between Olmert and Bush in Washington.

At those meetings, Olmert discussed with Bush Israel's plans for revising its timetable for setting final border arrangements with the Palestinians, putting those plans on the back burner while moving the Iranian nuclear program to the front burner.

In effect, Olmert informed Bush that 2006 would be the year for stopping Iran's progress toward a nuclear bomb and 2007 would be the year for redrawing Israel's final borders. That schedule fit well with Bush's priorities, which may require some dramatic foreign policy success before the November congressional elections.


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It's about money, not religion
Posted by: autonomie on Aug 7, 2006 12:24 AM   
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One Israeli source said Bush's interest in spreading the war to Syria was considered "nuts" by some senior Israeli officials, although Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has generally shared Bush's hard-line strategy against Islamic militants.

Once again, it's not about religion. It's about oil, controlling the energy reserves of the world.

Just follow the money.

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» Correct; So What? Posted by: coldeye
» Coldeye aint worth it... Posted by: chuckville
» RE: Coldeye aint worth it... Posted by: MTreich
» RE: Coldeye aint worth it... Posted by: sheena2u
» RE: Correct; So What? Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: It's about money, not religion Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: It's about money, not religion Posted by: malcolmartin
» Not THAT money Posted by: BJT
The conquest of the Middle East.
Posted by: wli on Aug 7, 2006 1:06 AM   
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The financial oligarchs running the US want very much to go back to the days when they had a puppet (the Shah) in Tehran in addition to Saudi Arabia and Iraq. They want it doubly so on account of the declining annual oil production capacity, which renders the oil industry tremendously more lucrative until other energy sources are an absolute necessity. The plan for this contingency, which has been on the books for ages (IIRC since 1979), is often called "grab the oil," but is more austerely phrased as the conquest of the Middle East.

The control of oil-producing regions is now a greater prize than it ever has been in history. One could say that it's a game of "Who Wants to be a Trillionaire?"

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» RE: The conquest of the Middle East. Posted by: Conservasaurus
A good article by John Pilger
Posted by: Arvy on Aug 7, 2006 1:36 AM   
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http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2006-07/27pilger.cfm

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It will kick off in October: start protesting now
Posted by: Bobsays on Aug 7, 2006 3:29 AM   
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I wouldn't spend too much more time over-analysing if the Bush administration wants to expand this war: they do. In the UK, its foreign secretary was fired for opposing the coming attacks.

We need to ask ourselves this: is war the solution to the threat of islamic terrorism? Are we making things worse? Will there be a better situation in the world two years from now (considering our experience in Iraq and Afghanistan)?

I fear we will be bamboozled into an expansion of this war, and the draft will be next.

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» The Black hole Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: The Black hole Posted by: yellow
the criminal and the accomplice
Posted by: IanA on Aug 7, 2006 3:43 AM   
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Olmert said. "The international community cannot tolerate a situation where a regime with a radical ideology and a long tradition of irresponsible conduct becomes a nuclear weapons state."

The irony is that he is talking about Iran, not Israel or the USA. Iran is in the position it is because the US destroyed it's budding democracy in the 50s, supported tyranny, which caused a popular revolution, and then spent the next years attacking it by proxy through their ally Saddam.

Iran or Persia has mounted no aggression in about 600 years, and is totally within its rights to develop nuclear power.

Israel, on the other hand, in the name of defence, and with the heavy supporter of their accomplice in crime USA, has armed itself to the teeth with nuclear and other banned weapons of mass destruction, as well as a conventional force making it one of the worlds most armed countries, has conducted wars of aggression and occupation in defiance of international law and Security Council resolution, they have abused human rights, executed innumerable war crimes as well as genocide, and not least international state terrorism.

If the US was really a reasonable leader state in the international community, meriting its permanent seat status on the security council, if it were at all looking for world peace and stability in the long term, it would demand the permanent disarmament of Israel, on the same basis and for the same reasons as Iraq in 2003. The difference is that Iraq didn’t have the WMD, Israel does and is using them.

Such action, along with a "fair and negotiated" settlement with the Palestinians would go a long way to establishing peace in the Middle East. For now though, I see absolutely no reason that international forces should risk their lives protecting this terrorist state. The UN should be south of the blue line not north, with a shoot to kill policy insuring Israelis don't go north "again".

Israel and the USA must be held responsible for full reparations and the reconstruction of Lebanon!

But, who needs peace when you can make so much more with war? Please keep your eye on the criminal and the accomplice here, and skip the hyperbole and propaganda.

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What Are They Thinking?
Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 7, 2006 4:11 AM   
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Seriously! Are you just a wee bit alarmed by what is happening to your country? This guy is a self-described "Christian" and yet...and yet...

I'm sorry but am I missing something here?

Eight years ago, the shrill calls for the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinto were loud and clear. With the exception of John Conyers of Michigan and Maurice Hinchey of New York and a small handful of others, most people aren't even thinking about, let alone dsicussing the possibility of impeaching these hideous bastards.

Again, am I missing something here?

Pray for peace
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
The Rant by Tom Degan

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» Some good advice for Coldeye Posted by: chuckville
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Olmert
Posted by: rsaxto on Aug 7, 2006 4:56 AM   
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Olmert is just plain silly. The international community already tolerates a regime with a radical ideology which became a nuclear weapons state, Israel itself. What he really means is that only Christian and Jewish nations should have atomic weapons, a gross example of intolerant bigotry. Actually, the international community should ban all atomic weapons and put in motion a process to disarm atomic weapons from all states that have them because all states that have them are terrorist states.

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» RE: Olmert Posted by: mokidugway
» RE: Olmert Posted by: Lloyd Drako
» RE: Olmert Posted by: mythbuster
Parry is right on target- the regime has Hitler's foreign policy
Posted by: citizenjoe on Aug 7, 2006 5:01 AM   
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The Bush regime is reaching for supremacy in the middle east. It sees the region and its vast resources as the American "lebensraum", or living room. The regime uses Israeli supremacists for its cats paw. You can be sure that something very nasty will be underway before Nov so they can manipulate elections. The regime thinks only it can protect the nation. The regime is supremacist and authoritarian-- just as was Adolf Hitler. Draw your own conclusions!

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» Autarchy Posted by: srqwolf
Israeli Voices for Peace in solidarity with International Community
Posted by: wawa on Aug 7, 2006 5:46 AM   
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The International Community is uniting in unIMAGINED ways against the violence of the empire

1. 5,000 rally in Tel Aviv against Lebanon conflict
Israeli Ultra-Orthodox Knesset Party called "Degel HaTorah" Comes out for Immediate Cease Fire and Negotiations with Hezbollahs


2."For years, Israel has waged war against the Palestinians with the main motive of insistence on keeping the occupied territories. If not for the settlement enterprise, Israel would have long since retreated from the occupied territories and the struggle's engine would have been significant neutralized. Not that a non-occupying Israel would have turned into the darling of the Arab world, but the destructive fire aimed at Israel would have significantly lessened, and those who continued to fight Israel would have found themselves isolated.

The war against the Palestinians is therefore unequivocally a territorial war, a war for the settlements. In other words, in the West Bank and Gaza, people were killed and are getting killed because of our greed for land. From Golda Meir to Ehud Olmert, the lie has held that the war with the Palestinians is an existential one for survival imposed on Israel when it is actually a war for real estate, one dunam after another, that does not belong to us....the prevailing view in Israel was that there was no need for peace with Syria: The Syrians sat quietly anyway, so why give them back the Golan?

This is the same dangerously foolish thinking that characterized the first 20 years of the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. The Palestinians sat quietly, surrendered under the Israeli occupation boot, and it did not occur to anyone to return their territory. Instead, Israel established the settlements. Only when the Palestinians woke up and realized they were going to lose their lands forever did they begin a violent campaign; and only after blood was spilled, did Israel wake up from its dreams and realize that it could not hold onto all of the territories forever. Thus, with regrettable delay and years of bloodshed, the recognition of the PLO, the Oslo accords, the disengagement and the convergence were born - all partial and fake solutions meant to postpone the end of the occupation." -The real estate war
By Gideon Levy /Ha'aretz Aug. 6

"THE SIMPLE truth is that up to now, the 22nd day of the war, not one single military target has been reached. The same army that took just six days to rout three big Arab armies in 1967 has not succeeded in overcoming a small "terrorist organization" in a time span that is already longer than the momentous Yom Kippur War. Then, the army succeeded in just 20 days in turning a stunning defeat at the beginning
into a resounding military victory at the end.
In order to create an image of achievement, military spokesmen asserted yesterday that "we have succeeded in killing 200 (or 300, or 400, who is counting?) of the 1000 fighters of Hizbullah." The assertion that the
entire terrifying Hizbullah consisted of one thousand fighters speaks for itself...

...President Bush is frustrated. The Israeli army has not "delivered the goods". Bush sent them into war believing that the powerful army, equipped with the most advanced American arms, will "finish the job" in a few days. It was supposed to eliminate Hizbullah, turn Lebanon over to the stooges of the US, weaken Iran and perhaps also open the way to "regime change" in Syria...For years we have told each other that we have the most-most-most army in the world. We have convinced not only ourselves, but also Bush and the entire world. After all, we did win an astounding victory in six days in 1967. As a result, when this time the army did not win a huge victory in six days, everybody was astounded. Why, what happened?"-Israel Peace Activist Uri Avneri

More on August 7 WAWA BLOG

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US "Cruise" missile target selectors now in Israel.
Posted by: verite on Aug 7, 2006 5:54 AM   
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Multiple military sources have told the Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space that Pentagon personnel responsible for selecting targets for cruise missile first strike attacks have been sent to Israel.

This indicates that U.S. and Israeli military strategists are now likely meeting to plan a join attack on Syria and/or Iran.

The Persian Gulf war and the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq both began with cruise missile attacks by the U.S. from Naval ships. U.S. military satellites were used to guide the missiles to their targets.

It would be wise to recognize that Bush has decided to expand the current war and chaos into the entire Middle East region. The implications for the U.S. will be enormous.

Israel's recent bombing of Lebanon near the Syrian border indicate to me that they are trying to draw a response from Syria. (Also "buzzing Damascus" V.) So far Syria has not responded. Look for more such efforts by Israel and the U.S. to provoke Syria.

I would highly recommend local peace groups call on their members of Congress and ask them to speak out against a further widening of this already insane war.

More and larger public protests should be organized immediately.

Bruce Gagnon
Coordinator
Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
PO Box 652
Brunswick, ME 04011
(207) 729-0517

Sunday, August 06, 2006

http://space4peace.blogspot.com/2006/08/
us-israel-selecting-targets-for-cruise.html

re-posted at
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/

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Unbelievable.
Posted by: Krotos on Aug 7, 2006 6:44 AM   
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Iraq is about two massacres away from full-blown civil war, our army is stretched to the breaking point, and the neocons want to attack Syria and Iran? What in God's name is wrong with these people? How can anyone be so disconnected from reality and still be able to tie their shoes?

I predict that we will still be suffering the consequences of entrusting our government and foreign policy to these moronic, war-mongering loons a generation from now.

-K.Ai.-

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» RE: Unbelievable. Posted by: sheena2u
Do Americans know this…?
Posted by: Arvy on Aug 7, 2006 7:01 AM   
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In 2003, Iran offered to negotiate all outstanding issues with the US, including nuclear issues and a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict. The offer was made by the moderate Khatami government, with the support of the hard-line “supreme leader” Ayatollah Khamenei. The Bush administration response was to censure the Swiss diplomat who brought the offer.

"In June 2006, Ayatollah Khamenei issued an official declaration stating that Iran agrees with the Arab countries on the issue of Palestine, meaning that it accepts the 2002 Arab League call for full normalization of relations with Israel in a two-state settlement in accord with the international consensus. The timing suggests that this might have been a reprimand to his subordinate Ahmadenijad, whose inflammatory statements are given wide publicity in the West, unlike the far more important declaration by his superior Khamenei.

"Of course, the PLO has officially backed a two-state solution for many years, and backed the 2002 Arab League proposal. Hamas has also indicated its willingness to negotiate a two-state settlement, as is surely well-known in Israel. Kharazzi is reported to be the author of the 2003 proposal of Khatami and Khamanei.

"The US and Israel do not want to hear any of this. They also do not want to hear that Iran appears to be the only country to have accepted the proposal by IAEA director Mohammed ElBaradei that all weapons-usable fissile materials be placed under international control, a step towards a verifiable Fissile Materials Cutoff Treaty.

"ElBaradei’s proposal, if implemented, would not only end the Iranian nuclear crisis but would also deal with a vastly more serious crisis: The growing threat of nuclear war, which leads prominent strategic analysts to warn of 'apocalypse soon' (Robert McNamara) if policies continue on their current course.

"It is commonly said that the 'international community' has called on Iran to abandon its legal right to enrich uranium. That is true, if we define the “international community” as Washington and whoever happens to go along with it. It is surely not true of the world. The non-aligned countries have forcefully endorsed Iran’s “inalienable right” to enrich uranium. And, rather remarkably, in Turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, a majority of the population favor accepting a nuclear-armed Iran over any American military action, international polls reveal.

"The non-aligned countries also called for a nuclear-free Middle East, a longstanding demand of the authentic international community, again blocked by the US and Israel. It should be recognized that the threat of Israeli nuclear weapons is taken very seriously in the world.

"As explained by the former Commander-in-Chief of the US Strategic Command, General Lee Butler, “it is dangerous in the extreme that in the cauldron of animosities that we call the Middle East, one nation has armed itself, ostensibly, with stockpiles of nuclear weapons, perhaps numbering in the hundreds, and that inspires other nations to do so.” Israel is doing itself no favors if it ignores these concerns.

"It is also of some interest that when Iran was ruled by the tyrant installed by a US-UK military coup, the United States – including Rumsfeld, Cheney, Kissinger, Wolfowitz and others - strongly supported the Iranian nuclear programs they now condemn and helped provide Iran with the means to pursue them. These facts are surely not lost on the Iranians, just as they have not forgotten the very strong support of the US and its allies for Saddam Hussein during his murderous aggression, including help in developing the chemical weapons that killed hundreds of thousands of Iranians."

Quoted from Chomsky

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Doomsday approaches
Posted by: marklar on Aug 7, 2006 7:17 AM   
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I have no doubt that the BushNeocons and their Israeli counterparts have picked up the principles of Nazi Germanys conqusts, re-wrote their playbook a little and are now applying it towrds their Project For The New American Century. We are at the very beginning of world war. Does anyone seriously think that other world powers are going to sit by as America's military resources are wasted and squandered in AfganIraq? We are indebted to China, headed for a depression, reinstitution of the draft, almost broke and jobless, but at least the wealthiest among us have to pay very lillte taxes. No, other world players are growing stronger as we get weaker and self destrict. We have lost all moral clarity and have no credibilty. When their interests are threatened, and when they feel the time is right, they will pounce and we will shatter like glass on a marble floor and our only recourse will be to use nuclear weapons - if the Israelis don't use them first. Our president and his advisors want to use them as a first strike method of pre-emptive war. How fucking insane is that? And the MSM talk about it as if it's ok? WTF?
Silvia Tennebaum wrote this about Jews (She actully lived through the Holocasut):
Using the most modern weapons the United States can supply to search out the Hezbollah guerrillas, the Israeli soldiers destroy Lebanon. They wreck all of Gaza, seeking to murder the leaders of Hamas.

Many American Jews gather proudly to cheer them on. The face of the American president remains blank. A patter of platitudes issues from his lips. He is not interested in peace. He is happy to see Israel do the dirty war for him. Diplomacy is a word not in his dictionary.

But lo and behold - even as the destruction builds and the war continues through its third week - it seems suddenly no longer such a lark. Success is hard to come by; Israel is no longer the perennial victor. But will it know what to do when faced with the need to talk with the enemy? It has always felt so invincible that discussion seemed the weapon of fools and weaklings, much like the way the earnest work of its principled and dedicated peace camp - Jewish to the core, in an "old-fashioned" way - seemed pathetic and misguided.

What is wrong with Americans that we allow The Bsuh Administration to wage war for profit and religious ideology and we have hardly say a collective word? People like Ann Coulter are on prime time television ranting non-stop lies, I mean non-sensical non-stop lies, stuff she just makes up? While a woman like Cindy Sheehan is villified by the people smiling at Ann Coulter. What the hell is wrong with all of us? Why are we not in the streets trying to stop this insanity?

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Water War for Israel, Oil War for U.S.
Posted by: cielo on Aug 7, 2006 8:42 AM   
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Here's some interesting analysis about water-starved Israel and its northern neighbor, with its rivers (and mountain snow). The Palestinian Territories contain more water than Israel, which is a primary reason they have been conquered, and Lebanon's Litani River isn't far away: Water War

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We have lost our voice in the political system.
Posted by: manny on Aug 7, 2006 9:05 AM   
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We Americans have lost our voice in the political system.
Who is in charge of America? Presently, the Necons, the corporations and the Israel Lobby. The fact that President G. Bush and Congress can allow the destruction of Lebanon
proves my point. I don't doubt that these three enties have more in store for the American people in the Middle East.
God help us all !

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Ummm...
Posted by: buffaloT on Aug 7, 2006 9:54 AM   
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"The international community cannot tolerate a situation where a regime with a radical ideology and a long tradition of irresponsible conduct becomes a nuclear weapons state."
Okay, let's think about that for a minute. Regime... radical ideology... long tradition irresponsible conduct... nuclear weapons state.... hated by internat'l community.
Yeah, too late.
I'd like to salute the brilliant minds that came up with eliminating Iranian Nuke Program by nuking it.
It is truly unbelievable that BushCO is still being allowed to destroy this country.
By the time we collectively wake up it'll probably be too late.

And I was gonna quit smoking.

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PNAC?
Posted by: ericthefool on Aug 7, 2006 10:01 AM   
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"neoconservative" means "Jew"
Posted by: Jesse Cristo on Aug 7, 2006 10:18 AM   
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The Protocols of Zion are back - and the Coffee Shop Liberals are propagating the myth more effectively than any other anti-Semitic organization. Using political correctness as camoflauge and demopathic rhetoric to stifle debate, these nefarious biscotti crunchers will stop at nothing to undermine the efforts of the United States and Israel in their efforts to destroy terrorist organizations and bring democracy to the Middle East. The myth of the Jewish conspiracy and Zionist serpent looms large in their minds and is exposed by their paranoid, conspiratorial rantings about greed, Israel, oil, and nuclear war. No one will whine more than these Coffee Shop Liberals if America's interests in the Middle East are compromised - the price of a macchiato will increase ten-fold.

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» thanks, yellow. Posted by: Jesse Cristo
» RE: thanks, yellow. Posted by: sheena2u
Madness
Posted by: Pirate1 on Aug 7, 2006 10:21 AM   
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There's a lot of "US" and "THEM" going on in all this. Hizbulluh and Hamas are refered to as "terrorists" constantly but I ask you in the US or wherever you sit presently, What do you suppose you would be doing if some world body decided, say, that the entire Pacific coast was to be named a NEW NATION and then the people who move in there treat you like the 19th century Americans treated the Natives? I know a significant number of you would take up arms and try to fight for your homes. You would RISIST. And if some sympathetic government somewhere were to give you aid in this struggle you'd accept it gladly {as a fledgeling USA did from the government of France in resisting the English..} but the people in the NEW NATION would then label these resistors as "terrorists" just as the English did the Early Colonists who resisted.
If you can't see that this is what is happening in all the Horror going on in the Middle East today and that it is all in the name of controling a region which happens to be where there is a lot of oil underground with no regard for the wishes of the people who have lived there for countless generations you are in my opinion being deliberately blind and complicit. The irony for me is all this fighting is over oil, the burning of which is rapidly and permanently changing the Earth into a place that will no longer support life as we know it.

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Here we Go Again - "Anti-Semite" time
Posted by: sofla100 on Aug 7, 2006 3:31 PM   
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Well, once again anybody who does not support Israel's wars of agression or USA support for it all is an "anti-semite." Now, I don't know about you but a bunch of people dancing around in circles and singing folk songs, they could be Jews, they could be Catholics, they could be Sufis, who knows? Why the big hang up again on the Jewish thing??? 1/3rd of Jews state they don't even practice Judaism, similiar to other faiths. Wake up Israeli and American Jews, nobody gives a rats !*@ what religion you are, half of the Arabs and Israelis in the Middle East all look the same anyway, so how do you come up with this nonsense? Your no different from Whites who wanted to defend South Africa's apartheid state, so knock it off!

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Keeping The (Nuclear) Genie In The Bottle
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Aug 7, 2006 3:45 PM   
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Haven't we Americans had enough of this current administration? How much longer will we let this war-happy government use the military to affect change in the world when they want?
And the talk of using nuclear weapons against an Arab country is a chilling thought. Bush & Co. want to release the nuclear genie on the Middle East because they want to eliminate Israel's and America's so-called "enemies."
We cannot permit any more wholescale carnage on our Arab brothers and sisters. We cannot allow this collection of fanatics in Washington to let the evil genie out and see another possible Hiroshima upon the world. I am fed up.
Our leaders should be kicked out of office-now! The sooner, the better. The whole world is watching.

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Repeat history? Like Rome: Republic to Empire?
Posted by: Christie on Aug 7, 2006 4:33 PM   
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This is our number one crisis: the past two presidential elections were stolen through rigged elections. The voice of the people, the will of the people will not be heard unliss we solve this, our #1 crisis.
 Electronic voting machines can be programmed to record a vote for one candidate and give a paper receipt or print out showing a vote for the other candidate. We must insist on paper ballots and hand counting.

Electronic voting machines can be reprogrammed to flip votes with about one minute of access from the elections officials' offices to the machine at any voting location.Touch screen electronic voting machines and optical scanners are both corruptible. Experts found that an attacker could tamper with the software before Election Day or even on the day of the election with a commonly used handheld device such as a Palm Pilot. That kind of wireless attack, a so-called "Trojan horse," impersonates the benign program already in the machine. An attacker aware of a vulnerability in the voting system's software could simply show up at the polling station and beam her Trojan horse into the machine, using a wireless enabled personal digital assistant.

For an in-depth analysis of voter fraud via electronic voting machines, see: Brennan Center for Justice-Press Release . Or read: “E-voting in the trenches” in OpEd News

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STOLEN ELECTIONS
Posted by: Burtonger on Aug 7, 2006 9:28 PM   
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I could not believe it when the first thieft of the leadership of the USA could be decided by FLORIDA the state run by the thief's {The BURNING BUSH} brother jebodia bush,that would be illegal in a fair honest country . Then the last time decided by judges that BUSH controled .That is when I realized that america was a third world country and anything could become reality if there was money to be made....That is all these neo-fascist want,to make more money easier and use the ignorance of the voting public to pay for it ,with money and lives and self dignity . America has lost it's soul ,or sold it cheaply to big business's better lawyers . All the shit that is going to happen is because of greed and ignorance of history,religion,economics,etc.
So when the next US ellection is stolen/fixed people will cry again,but will it be enough to REALLY get rid of the fucked up system that is fucking america in every orifice ? It's worse than cancer and spreading every second that it is not treated....I apologise for nothing ,except not correcting this problem .

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All I can say is: "Duh!"
Posted by: sln70 on Aug 8, 2006 5:47 PM   
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obviously.

I don't have to read the article or the comments to understand that the White house and the UK Parliament are behind this.

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Coming over the crest
Posted by: chimpy on Aug 9, 2006 1:21 PM   
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At the present time the world is in the situation of a roller coaster train whose first couple of cars have passed over the crest of the big hill. We are just starting to pick up speed on our drop into the abbyss. It only gets faster and crazier from here on. Please remain seated and keep your hands inside the cars at all times...

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Is August 22nd Armageddon day?
Posted by: ranting redhead on Aug 10, 2006 6:33 PM   
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I have a question:
Glenn Beck on CNN and other conservative sites/blogs are running with this story: "Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton Bernard Lewis warns that Iran’s Islamic end of times prophecy could be fulfilled as early as 22 August. This date relates to the sacred Islamic date of Rajab 28, which is the date that Saladin entered and conquered Jerusalem." http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/16862.html
There's rampant speculation that Iran is going to attack Israel that day or do something else extreme to hasten the return of the "hidden imam."
So what's going on here? Why are supposedly "mainstream" media such as CNN feeding this "end times" and "world war III" hysteria? And does anybody know if this August 22nd thing is just Bernard Lewis being wacky or do more balanced analysts give this argument any credence?

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frank67
Posted by: frank67 on Aug 12, 2006 3:32 PM   
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The B&C regime is undoubtedly the worst in our entire history. If these Rthugs "retain" power, I am off to Canada for retirement. See you all in Montreal!

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Civilization: The great Misnomer!
Posted by: D-of-G on Aug 12, 2006 5:40 PM &nbs