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War on Iraq

Gingrich Criticizes Bush, Aids Enemy

By Glenn Greenwald, AlterNet. Posted April 12, 2006.


As Bush apologists realize their leader is presiding over a dying presidency, they are straining to distance themselves from him.
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A slightly different version of this story first appeared on Unclaimed Territory.

Newt Gingrich's sudden criticism of the administration's actions in Iraq received a fair amount of attention, but as part of that speech, Gingrich also criticized Bush's illegal NSA eavesdropping. The New York Sun reported (subs. req'd):

Mr. Gingrich, who led the House from 1995 to 1999, also took a swipe at Mr. Bush's decision not to seek congressional approval before implementing a wiretapping program aimed at uncovering communications involving possible Al Qaida operatives.

"Where I fault the administration is, sometimes it would be so easy to just be simple and straight, OK? All they had to do is go to the American people and say, we want to make sure that if the National Security Agency picks up a foreign terrorist calling someone in the U.S., that they can listen to the call," Mr. Gingrich said in a video clip posted on the South Dakota newspaper's website. He said more than 90 percent of Americans would have quickly endorsed such a program.

This mindset seems to be going around.

As Bush apologists realize that their leader is presiding over a rotting, dying presidency, they are straining to distance themselves as strenuously as possible from their failed commander. Stalwart GOP filth-peddler George Conway yesterday in his National Review column remarkably proclaimed -- with troops still in harm's way -- that "this administration is the most politically and substantively inept that the nation has had in over a quarter of a century"; made the accusation that "folks on this website don't want to hear it, but deep down they know it's true"; sadly announced that he doesn't "consider [him]self a Republican any longer"; and rudely and disrespectfully said about the commander-in-chief's reign that the best thing about it "is that it's almost over."

These same would-be Bush critics have spent the last four years creating a paradigm where this type of criticism of the commander is not permitted because such criticism constitutes aid to Al Qaida and is therefore tantamount to treason. Compare the criticisms made by Gingrich of the president's illegal eavesdropping and his Iraq policies to this truly disgusting declaration made by him just a few months ago on Hannity & Colmes:

I think it's quite clear as you point out, Sean, that from this tape, that bin Laden and his lieutenants are monitoring the American news media, they're monitoring public opinion polling, and I suspect they take a great deal of comfort when they see people attacking United States policies.

There are few people left willing to defend the president on much of anything, including the NSA scandal. Several days ago, House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner publicly upbraided Alberto Gonzales for "stonewalling" -- i.e., engaging in a coverup -- for concealing virtually all relevant information sought by the committee as it pretends to investigate the administration's eavesdropping conduct.

There is clearly a sea change going on. The self-interested rats who propped up this administration with blind loyalty for the last five years are now jumping ship as it sinks, desperately trying to save themselves by showing some extremely belated autonomy and independence. But where were Gingrich, Conway and Sensenbrenner for the last five years while "the most politically and substantively inept (administration) that the nation has had in over a quarter of a century" inflicted unquantifiable, arguably irreversible damage on our nation? They were accusing administration critics of lacking patriotism and being on the side of terrorists, and they cannot be allowed to distance themselves now from the administration to which they tied themselves.


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Glenn Greenwald is a constitutional law attorney and chief blogger at Unclaimed Territory. His forthcoming book, How Would a Patriot Act: Defending American Values from a President Run Amok will be released by Working Assets Publishing next month.

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not all cons are the same
Posted by: feller on Apr 12, 2006 4:18 PM   
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you took fair shots at gingrich etal. however,the emergence of civil war in iraq undercuts the necessity for US forces to remain to maintain stability in a strategically critical nation(this argument did not by the way depend on the discovery of WMD, and has always been one of the key intervention arguments. see the seminal paper by the Project for the American Century sponsored by James Baker and many key Bush to be advisors in 1999. thus, there has been a critical change on the ground that would allow former war supporters to reevaluate. Civil wars make third party intervention difficult if not self-defeating (Spain, 1939, Vietnam, etc.).
You should be aware in addition that significant elements of the conservative movement (paleoconservatives) like Buchanan, Paul, Craig Roberts, Chronicles Magazine writers, and others have question the war initially as excessive US intervention in a foreign land that did not threaten the US. That principled conservative opposition arose while liberals like Kerry and Clinton took to the floor of the Senate to wail about the threat of WMD.

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» RE: not all cons are the same Posted by: redheadedbluegirl
» RE: not all cons are the same Posted by: albiegf13
» Apples and Oranges Posted by: peritonlogon
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» RE: not all cons are the same Posted by: Longdream
Throw Gringrich an Anchor
Posted by: patachon on Apr 13, 2006 2:11 AM   
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There's no reason to rehabilitate these conservatives -- Gingrich, Fukuyama, etc. -- by allowing them to claim that Bush is an aberration -- and that this time they're really really serious.

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» RE: Throw Gringrich an Anchor Posted by: mythbuster
Never Forget
Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 13, 2006 4:06 AM   
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In the months to follow, with the election coming up in November, you'll see alot of republicans tryiing to distance themselves from this nightmare of an administration. They all need to be held accountable. We must never forget what these people have done to this once-great nation. The democrats also need to clean house. The fact that people like Hillary Clinton and Joe Leiberman have no serious opposition in their respective primaries is amazing to me!

One thing is perfectly clear: If the republicans are able to retain control of both houses of congress in November, this country is finished. The United States of America cannot afford two and a half more years of what is inarguably the most corrupt, inept and criminal administration in the history of human stupidity. George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and the tidal wave of incompetence that make up their administration need to be forcably and legally removed from power. A great many people need to be sent to prison for the rest of their natural lives.

I said it on another posting this morning but I'll say it again: The happiest day of my life will be the day that George W. Bush's mug shot is splashed across page one of the New York Times. And it will happen - I promise you that - it will happen.

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
tomdegan@frontiernet.net

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» Amazing? Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Never Forget Posted by: Maude
» RE: Never Forget Posted by: redheadedbluegirl
» RE: Lamont Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Lamont Posted by: gar
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» RE: Never Forget Posted by: Ellie1
» RE: Never Forget Posted by: Steven Wanzell
even Gingrich
Posted by: rsaxto on Apr 13, 2006 4:30 AM   
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Even Gingrich realizes that the current administration is on the wrong course and is sinking into mad unamerican tactics. Impeach the crazies NOW before the whole world ignites in stupid warfare.

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a simple solution?
Posted by: Spot on Apr 13, 2006 4:51 AM   
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end the lifestyle of the career politician, impose term limits for all branches of government.

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» RE: a simple solution? Posted by: denb
A deeper loyalty.
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Apr 13, 2006 5:36 AM   
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The self-interested rats who propped up this administration with blind loyalty for the last five years are now jumping ship as it sinks

I believe that Mr. Greenwald is missing a deeper loyalty that has in no way diminished and is the root of the problem of our people. That loyalty is to the corporate establishment that actually runs our government.

The establishment will flourish whether Bush stays or goes, whether the Republicans or Democrats are in "power". It's above party politics. It finances both parties. and owns them. We can vote politicians out but we can't vote their owners out.

The only way to overcome this problem is for the people to become above party politics. We must control both parties. Then we will win whether the Republicans or Democrats are in office.

Capturing both parties is a new and untried approach to democracy but a strong grassroots movement can do it. We can reform our politics before the 2006 election. Our votes only have power before the election. Now is the time to use that power; once our votes are cast they have no power.

Join The Lincoln Initiative, a unique grassroots movement with no organization, no leaders, no registration, no contributions, and no meetings. Make government of the people, by the people, and for the people" a reality. Click on We can do it

Is there anyone so naive as to believe that Bush was in control of our government? Does anyone believe that the Republicans were in control?

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» RE: A deeper loyalty. Posted by: LeeAnnG
» RE: A deeper loyalty. Posted by: Lincoln fan
Impeach the Alcoholic and his cronies
Posted by: kgs1947 on Apr 13, 2006 5:43 AM   
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Impeach him. That is the best medicine for this dis-ease at home and abroad. Clean the slate and let's get on with subverting the terrorists at home and abroad. Bush, himself, is now a terrorist in this nation. He does not abide by the Constitution, any legal mandates that Congress has already set, undermines the infrastructure of this country by depleting our national resources (human and environmental), and is simply supporting the rich and powerful corporations (see his crony Cheney's dirty hands in Iraq, Louisiana, Afganistan, and elsewhere). Impeach him today! Call for national elections!

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» I concur Posted by: LeonDion
» RE: I concur Posted by: aussidawg
» RE: I concur Posted by: Steven Wanzell
Rats
Posted by: ng1944 on Apr 13, 2006 7:22 AM   
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As soon as they will elect (with the help of
electronic machines) new "Bush",
they wil all jump on the ship again.

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why are you angry at them, they are doing extactly what we expect?
Posted by: taxon on Apr 13, 2006 7:26 AM   
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I think that your missing the point when this is called bling faith. These people are all doing what is in thier best interest, and no one else's, and the things is, that they are doing exactly what is expected by them in our political system. The rarity is when someone follows their beliefs. The problem isn't in the people, it is the system, and we've created a system that attrachs this type of person and encourages this type of behavior. Term limits would be a good start for changing the system, but as Frank Herbert said "power doesn't corrupt, it just attracts the corruptible." Those people (for the most part) who want to be leaders and are able to get elected are probably the last ones we should allow to do it.

I don't know what the answer is to this problem, but to mad about the politics in this country is like getting mad at water for being wet. We created a corrupt system, so we get corruption.

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Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss
Posted by: Jeffersonista on Apr 13, 2006 8:04 AM   
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Untill Korporate charters are withheld, and citizenship denied to corporations, they will continue to buy the government that serves only them.

Repeal all Korporate charters Now!

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Gingrich is a Historian
Posted by: NoPCZone on Apr 13, 2006 8:05 AM   
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Newt is not exactly a Johnny Come Lately to being a critic of 'W'. He has long opposed the Patriot Act and other actions taken by this bunch. After his flame out around the time of the Clinton Impeachment, he intentionally laid low. Then he started to appear more frequently in his traditional circles. Now, with the 2008 election cycle starting up, we are going to see more of him in the mainstream.

Unless something unusual crops up, Newt is going to run for the Republican 2008 Presidential Nomination. He's not my choice but could prove to be useful.

As a student of history (University History Professor) and a politician experienced at the highest levels, he is a pragmatist. After getting schooled by Clinton in the Government Shutdown, he has learned to moderate his speech and positions. As a former Speaker of the House, he's not as worried about his place in history-- he's already there. Having seen the derailment and self-destruction of the Neo-Cons from the outside, he is free of the baggage anyone inside the Bush Administration would have to face in 2008.

Why should a liberal or progressive care about who the G.O.P. runs in 2008? A more moderate G.O.P. will allow the Democrats to field a more liberal candidate without a lot of the negative attacks from the hard right. Otherwise, the more centrist the Republican party is, the easier it is for the Democrats to take on a progressive agenda. A Gingrich candidacy will be a moderating influence on the G.O.P.

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» RE: Gingrich is a Historian Posted by: mythbuster
» Say what? Posted by: peritonlogon
Silence is consent.
Posted by: albiegf13 on Apr 13, 2006 8:49 AM   
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We must also bear in mind those who appeased this aministration, let us not forget. The conventional media, seeking favor and conforming like beggars with cup in hand. Also the so-called loyal opposition, the Dems, cloaking themselvs in a veneer of misguided and dillusioned patriotism in an awkward attempt to hold on to some pathetic consensus of viability. Collective greed has taken us to where we are today as when a bad idea get momentum across the board.

Let's give some recognition to the ones that had the courage to speak out, Sen. Byrd, Donahue and Paris Hilton, just to mention a few.

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Quite an education
Posted by: LeonDion on Apr 13, 2006 9:00 AM   
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Glenn Greenwald writes: "These same would-be Bush critics have spent the last four years creating a paradigm where this type of criticism of the commander is not permitted because such criticism constitutes aid to Al Qaida and is therefore tantamount to treason."

While citizen Bush is not a very faithful source, I agree with what he said about the September 11th terrorists: 'they hate us for our freedoms.' The problem is, I don't assume who 'they' are, who hate us for our freedoms.

9/11 created 5,000 new Kennedys in just one day. The most credible theory of what happened puts Dick Cheney in the hot seat, with Bush in cahoots as the amiable front-man. It was likely the "New Pearl Harbor" that the necons wanted, in order to get their agenda put forward. Economic figures and the news in general show who benefitted the most.

In the past five years since September 11th, 2001, it seems that the leadership, or inner core, of the Republican Party has finally revealed what they truly stand for: Fascism. Fascism through:

~ War, the Biggest government program of them all,

~ Enslavement of the public through increasing Big Public Debt, owed to the fraudulent and privately owned Federal Reserve banking cartel,

~ Effective neutralizing of the people's sense of empowerment and responsibility through Big Religion.

While Muslim hijackers may certainly have been involved in the September 11th attacks, the neocons in the Bush administration are the more likely suspects. They certainly did their best to allow it.

I had the impression that the people who promoted the 'dissent as treason' meme, were simply supporting the terrorists. Now that "[t]here is clearly a sea change going on," it's kinda changing my mind about the people associating themselves with the Republican party. My own jury is still out on whether the Republican Party is itself a treasonous institution. but the fractures developing in the Republican party indicate that they may have simply been deceived by the administration, while their hearts are still in the right place. Many in their party are likely not in league with the terrorists.

This experience, from 9/11, through the invasion of Iraq, the peaking of global conventional oil supplies, the consolidating towards monoply control of the mainstream media, the domestic spying scandal, and so on, has been a real education!

Thank you, Glenn Greenwald, for your report. It's gone towards restoring my faith in my fellow Americans. However, there's still a long way to go.

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» RE: Quite an education Posted by: zipper696
Military deserters should be called what they are: real patriots
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 13, 2006 9:13 AM   
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The Republican and their Democratic fellow travelers cheered for war, and sent young men and women off to die without raising questions about the WMD claims. Now they are trying to say, see we were really against war. The performance of Hillary Clinton, Joe Lieberman and John Kerry has been revolting.

In contrast, compare this to the US and British servicemembers who know the war for what it is: an unspeakable atrocity committed against the Iraqi people. Many of them have decided not to participate, regardless of the consequences. Take the case of Flight Lt. Malcolm Kendall-Smith, who said U.S. actions in Iraq were on par with those of Nazi Germany, in Britain, who was just jailed for eight months. More then 5,500 servicemembers have deserted since the war began. Good for them! They can sit at my table any day of the week.

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Bush Apologists?
Posted by: aussidawg on Apr 13, 2006 9:38 AM   
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It would appear that "politics as usual" are starting to take place...amazingly, just prior to the 2006 November elections. The only reason these "loyal" Republicans are jumping off Bu$h's ship is to improve their immediate image. They are all still Ku Korporate Kronies, and after they once again pull the wool over the voters' eyes and get elected, it will be back to big business as usual.

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Why should they worry?
Posted by: talkville on Apr 13, 2006 11:18 AM   
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They'll be out in a couple of years, and leave someone else to deal with the effects -- they've got a whole lot accomplished, this gang. I don't think Mr Bush et al will be too worried about the employment situation or other minor things of a global nature. They know quite well how the accountability game goes... nothing to worry about; gotta get ready for that round of golf with the boys. . . .

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Farenheit 911
Posted by: jwg on Apr 13, 2006 1:53 PM   
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Farenheit 911 is now playing on cable. I watched it again last night, the first time was right before the last election. You might encourage your conservative friends to see now what they shunned before.

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» RE: Farenheit 911 Posted by: mythbuster
» Conservative friends? Posted by: Steven Wanzell
Bum bum bum bum, bum...baa!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Apr 14, 2006 9:34 AM   
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From the article:
"It is important to ensure that the people responsible for the indescribable mess our country is in on so many levels not be allowed to extricate themselves from responsibility."

If we can, and do, truly hold all of them responsible, the perp-walk will be a conga line, stretching from Washington D.C. all the way to Leavenworth federal prison.

But what do we do about those voters of America who were hoodwinked into voting for the Rat-In-Chief and his merry band of lunatics, and the minority that STILL support him, "right or wrong"? How do we wake up the brain-dead?

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JOSHUADUDD - INTERNET WHORE
Posted by: cerveny1 on Apr 16, 2006 3:15 PM   
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Funny thing about Alternet.org . . . There is this little click of self-righteous moderators who unilaterally determine what is right and wrong. Those in particular who don't agree with one JOSHUA LUDD and his brand of democracy may find themselves banished to Alternet's Gulag. I don't mind anymore. I have determined that a site frequented by an arrogant, gutless little prick like JOSHUA LUDD is hardly worth my time. I managed to break all of Alternet's fascist and seemingly self-contradictory rules of engagement but then again so did Joshua so I can only conclude that he is some kind of moderator or just a little bitch. Probably both. I'm sure that many of you who have debated with this self-important little prick understand. Having a left-leaning site like this is great and all but when assholes like JOSHUA LUDD run the show it ends up being a My Way or the Highway circle jerk eh JOSH? There can be no dissenting voice with JOSHUA LUDD. He silences you if he disagrees with you – sound familiar? All this discussion about the problems Americans are facing, censorship being one of them, and Fascistnet.org ends up being a microcosm of that very problem.

I challenge Joshua on every occasion because I disagree with him and his beliefs. He and I have both exchanged ad-hominem attacks – he seems to be a real tough guy though, given to Lee Marvin-esque outbursts but yet he whines to a friend and poof I’m gone or maybe he is the BIG PRICK who moderates the whole thing. In any event he actually represents much of what is wrong with this site and to a greater extent, what is wrong with America. We are discussing such topics as War, Racism, Fascism, Sexism, Capitalism, Socialism, etc. and yet are asked to keep the kid gloves on. Funny, one would think that people with enough conviction to come in here and discuss these topics would have thicker skin, and apparently most do except that little BITCH ASS TRICK JOSHUA LUDD. Keep him in mind when he attacks you personally and calls you a “reprehensible, murderous hypocrite” or this little pearl he threw out there – “Good for you. You still didn't serve. As my grandfather... a WW2 vet would say "close only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes". Either you served or you didn't, and you, you chickenhawk piece of shit, DID NOT.” Funny Josh is beyond reproach much like our own president and the man he was criticizing in that thread – Colin Powell. Who is going to censure or ban you Josh? What about that post wasn’t a personal attack and profane?

I think many of you would be interested in knowing that Little Joshie is running a pseudo-intellectual pyramid blogging scam – fucking hilarious Josh!!!! What is it called Josh – Blogging for Bucks?? LMAO!!!
No I understand why you have this incestuous little relationship with Alternet.org. You are giving each other the reach-around eh JOSHUADUDD? You’re nothing but a little blog twink are you? This is the real progressive thinker you all are dealing with. WHAT A FUCKING LOSER!! Here’s his pitch spoken like a good little Neo-con:

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There are millions of people who want to work from home but don't know how.There are millions of people who know how to write.There are millions of people who know how to write, but don't know how to make money with it.We KNOW how to make money with content people write. This site was designed to allow YOU to write content which WE will market and we will ALL make money.We'll make the money for you!
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» RE: JOSHUADUDD - INTERNET WHORE Posted by: Lincoln fan
Just Another Opportunist
Posted by: Steven Wanzell on Apr 26, 2006 8:20 PM   
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Gingrich is just the latest rat to disembark. Another blogger here, commented they'd be jumping back on again, when it serves them. I so agree.

I'm a broken record here, but the public's lack of participation in self-governance is still the main reason for how we got into this dog pile of broken promises called America.

Steven Wanzell
artist/activist/ex-American
www.wanzellarts.com.ar

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