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War on Iraq

Lying and Dying Redux

By Stephen Pizzo, News for Real. Posted November 1, 2005.


Another generation of American kids are dying and being maimed for life because someone in high office lied and then covered it up -- or, in this case, tried to cover it up.
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There's only one story that's important today, and it's not President Bush's latest pick for the Supreme Court. It's this one:

Washington -- The National Security Agency has kept secret since 2001 a finding by an agency historian that NSA officers deliberately distorted critical intelligence during the Tonkin Gulf episode that helped precipitate the Vietnam War, according to two people familiar with the historian's work…The research by Robert Hanyok, the NSA historian, was detailed four years ago in an in-house article that remains classified, in part because agency officials feared its release might prompt uncomfortable comparisons with the flawed intelligence used to justify the war in Iraq, according to an intelligence official familiar with some internal discussions of the matter.  (Full Story)

Unfortunately, it took over 40 years to learn about this pertinent little fact. But only because Lyndon Johnson didn't have a Joe Wilson shooting off his mouth. So the evidence -- that the Vietnam War began on a lie -- stayed buried. Did Johnson know the alleged North Vietnamese attack on two of our destroyers in the Tonkin Gulf was pure fiction? Sure he did. In a candid moment, Johnson told then under-secretary of state George W. Ball, "Hell, those dumb, stupid sailors were just shooting at flying fish!"

"Rather than come clean about their mistake, they helped launch the United States into a bloody war that would last for 10 years," said Matthew M. Aid, an independent expert on the events leading up to the Vietnam War.

Did George W. Bush know the Niger documents were fakes? I don't know. But Dick Cheney sure as hell did, which is why he sent Scooter Libby out to smear Joe Wilson and his wife, Valerie. Wilson was exposing the Bush administration's Tonkin Gulf lie -- that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from Niger.

So here we are again, fighting an undeclared war thousands of miles from home. Another generation of American kids are dying and being maimed for life because someone in high office lied and then covered it up -- or, in this case, tried to cover it up.

Individuals in both administrations lied to begin a war, and then were comfortable with keeping their mouths shut about it while other people's kids died. Whether you are for this administration or against it, ask yourself: what kind of people do something like that?

I lived through the Johnson administration, and that first war - barely. Over 60,000 of my generation didn't. A lot of us suspected at the time that the war had been cooked up, but couldn't prove it. There was a draft back then, so we had little choice in the matter anyway. A lot of guys -- like me -- who opposed the war still ended up in the military, unless you had the right connections.

Forty years later, all America has to show for that war is a slab of polished black granite on the Mall in DC. All the families who lost loves ones in Vietnam have left is a name chiseled there to show they ever existed -- all for a lie.

Here we are again with a foreign war raging, kids and parents dying, again for a lie.


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Stephen Pizzo is the author of numerous books, including "Inside Job: The Looting of America's Savings and Loans," which was nominated for a Pulitzer.

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PARIAH NATION
Posted by: Captainmagic on Nov 1, 2005 1:30 AM   
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Something that eats your young so that it's head can have a shiney new coat of oil

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drew
Posted by: drew on Nov 1, 2005 2:37 AM   
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I have a question more than a comment. I have seen relatively little regarding progress on specifically investigating the forged documents- clearly an act of commission attempting to provide a false basis for war and therefor not subject to the arguement that "we made a mistake". What is the status of that specific element of the inquiry?

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» RE: drew's hope? Posted by: Scott
» Old Testament Egyptian Ruler Posted by: beetruetoyou
Best description so far of Congress!
Posted by: churchofone on Nov 1, 2005 2:50 AM   
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"Passing a chickenshit resolution" - it's perfect, and sadly true.

As I listened to the hearings three years ago, I kept saying "Don't do it - don't give this sort of authority away!"

And Congress being Congress, they went and did it anyway.

Sigh.

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» But congress did as just we wanted Posted by: Bic Pentameter
Lying for the Liers.......
Posted by: Scott on Nov 1, 2005 3:49 AM   
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Yep the last two paragraphs say it all, and "Scooter" and Cheney had to get together and do all they could to protect the Big Lier at the top. So where is the indictment for Cheney as HE no doubt was the one who told Scooter and they then go Karl in on it.... OR some combination of the above three did it all, but I would say Cheney was first, so he should have gotten an indictment, but he didn't cause "lawyers" know that if you want a career, you don't mess with the BIG LIER at the top.............

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» Libby lied under oath to a grand jury Posted by: Bic Pentameter
rindyroo
Posted by: lefehr on Nov 1, 2005 4:17 AM   
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That's quite the leap, comparing Bush and Kennedy. I find it hard to believe that Kennedy would have been unaware of the actual circumstances of the Bay of Tonkin. I am prepared to believe that Bush is a manipulated, in the dark, figurehead but I'm sorry never John F. Kennedy. It does not seem even reasonable to assume that he would have been unaware of this if we are to assume that Johnson was.

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» Kennedy was dead Posted by: harpy
We can do it
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Nov 1, 2005 4:53 AM   
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It is obvious that the people are not in control of the government. Until we are, the middle class can expect its taxes to provide a good life for the wealthy and a subsistance life for the poor to keep the wealthy safe. The wars, at least since WWII, have had economic roots. Again, the middle class pays for the war, and along with the poor fights it, to make the rich richer. Things will not change unless we change them. I think we can take control before the 2006 election. Go to a new idea
PS I would appreciate some free Java Scripting to improve my site.

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» RE: We can do it Posted by: aonghus36
THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS KILLING US
Posted by: dadanbetty on Nov 1, 2005 5:04 AM   
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Somebody should cut the oxygen supply to that whole administration.

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The TRUTH Be TOLD
Posted by: Vannagreen on Nov 1, 2005 7:17 AM   
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Yes, kids are dying becasue someone lied.... but not just the Bushies&Chenyites. We are all partly to blame in this "War to Save Suburbia."

James Kunstler's post today puts it perfectly. READ

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» RE: The TRUTH Be TOLD Posted by: farmer's daughter
The Real Number of Fatalities In Vietnam
Posted by: steamedinnw on Nov 1, 2005 9:06 AM   
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Mr. Numbers himself, former secretary of defense Robert McNamara, states explicitly in "The Fog Of War" that the number of Vietnamese killed was three million four hundred thousand (3,400,000). A man obsessed by weekly body counts should know. The two and a half million fatalities from the Korean War bring the total killed by this country in these two wars to just about the same six million people killed by the Nazis in their concentration camps.

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Lying & Dying, Again & Again & Again........
Posted by: FedUp on Nov 3, 2005 8:27 PM   
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Any intelligent discussion on what this administration is doing, needs a look at the historical record of this country.
"Manifest Destiny" was a lie.
The California land-grab of the 1840s was based on a lie.
The incursions into Mexican territory in the South was based on a lie.
The Monroe Doctrine was based on a lie.
The pretext for declaring war on Spain was based on a lie.
The rest, all the good readers of this website know.
It has never been the policy of this country to ALWAYS tell the truth.

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