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At All Costs, We Must Avoid a 'Surge' in Afghanistan

By Joseph Stiglitz, The Guardian. Posted September 13, 2008.


America's Iraq adventure led it into a moral vacuum. Will the error be repeated in the renewed US Afghan campaign?

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The Iraq war has been replaced by the declining economy as the most important issue in America's presidential election campaign, in part because Americans have come to believe that the tide has turned in Iraq: the troop "surge" has supposedly cowed the insurgents, bringing a decline in violence. The implications are clear: a show of power wins the day.

It is precisely this kind of macho reasoning that led America to war in Iraq in the first place. The war was meant to demonstrate the strategic power of military might. Instead, the war showed its limitations. Moreover, the war undermined America's real source of power -- its moral authority.

Recent events have reinforced the risks in the Bush administration's approach. It was always clear that the timing of America's departure from Iraq might not be its choice -- unless it wanted to violate international law once again. Now, Iraq is demanding that American combat troops leave within 12 months, with all troops out in 2011.

To be sure, the reduction in violence is welcome, and the surge in troops may have played some role. Yet the level of violence, were it taking place anywhere else in the world, would make headlines; only in Iraq have we become so inured to bloodshed that it is a good day if only 25 civilians get killed.

And the role of the troop surge in reducing violence in Iraq is not clear. Other factors were probably far more important, including buying off Sunni insurgents so that they fight with the United States against al-Qaida. But that remains a dangerous strategy. The US should be working to create a strong, unified government, rather than strengthening sectarian militias. Now the Iraqi government has awakened to the dangers, and has begun arresting some of the leaders whom the American government has been supporting. The prospects of a stable future look increasingly dim.

That is the key point: the surge was supposed to provide space for a political settlement, which would provide the foundations of long-term stability. That political settlement has not occurred. So, as with the arguments used to justify the war, and the measures of its success, the rationale behind surge, too, keeps shifting.

Meanwhile, the military and economic opportunity costs of this misadventure become increasingly clear. Even if the US had achieved stability in Iraq, this would not have assured victory in the "war on terrorism," let alone success in achieving broader strategic objectives. Things have not been going well in Afghanistan, to say the least, and Pakistan looks ever more unstable.


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Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel laureate, is a professor of economics at Columbia University.

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Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Sep 13, 2008 1:08 AM   
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This notable author has hit several bent nails squarely on the head but even he cannot bang them straight into the boards that they mount. If only his wisdom and insight could find its way into the hearts and minds of our national "leaders" there might be some hope for a return to lucidity. Instead, I fear that rather than change and betterment what we are facing is the issuance of millions of straight-jackets and construction of an equal number of padded cells to house those that are restrained. That is the goal of the neocons and thus far there is no opposition.

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I never understood how killing people in the Middle East could lead to peace.
Posted by: VetAgainst McCain on Sep 13, 2008 1:20 AM   
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I felt that way during the Vietnam War while serving in Southeast Asia. So I quit the military and became a war protestor.

To me, Afghanistan is just like Vietnam. As long as we keep killing "Talban suspects" and bombing their villages, conditions on the ground will never get better.

Obama has made some pretty strong statements about dealing with Afghanistan and they worry me. Hopefully, he will find a solution after taking office.

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You think that either Obama or Mccain will even try? I sadly don't. :(
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 13, 2008 5:29 AM   
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The neocons frankly don't mind and are in fact "happy" to empower and second rising of the Taliban in Afghanistan to keep people fighting and divided while the elites cash in on it all. You won't hear this discussion in either the Dems or Reps but in most 3rd parties. Sad.

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"At All Costs..."???
Posted by: Last Chance on Sep 13, 2008 5:34 AM   
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What "costs" are you referring to, Mr. Stiglitz? And why are you committed to a Talaban victory?
I think the women and girls of Afghanistan deserve a better life than to be kept as ignorant servants and breeders, don't you?

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» RE: "At All Costs..."??? Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: "At All Costs..."??? Posted by: Last Chance
» Afghan women and girls Posted by: Lloyd Drako
» To answer your question - Posted by: Last Chance
» come on now Posted by: aalif ba ta tha
I'm A Real Man
Posted by: edgar1 on Sep 13, 2008 7:05 AM   
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That's what Obama's foreign policy will be all about. Like JFK ended up being more of a warmonger than Nixon, the "anticommunist", would have been, so Obama will out testosterone John Hanoi Hilton McCain. It will be Korea redux as our troops freeze in the passes of the Hindu Kush, trapped between the Taliban on one side and the Pakistani tribes on the other.

At least Iraq has oil reserves.

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» RE: I'm A Real Man Posted by: Last Chance
Avoid a surge so we can lose?
Posted by: slydad on Sep 13, 2008 8:04 AM   
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I understand that the surge in Iraq kind of messed you guys up since now most Americans know we have essentially won the conflict for Iraq. I've said for some time now that to be a Democrat, you have to hope we lose the war in Iraq and hope the economy goes south. That's what the whole Democrat platform is based on.

Well as it turns out, we didn't lose in Iraq and the economy isn't as bad as a lot of folk claim that it is and as a result, the Republicans are doing pretty good.

Now you guys want us to avoid using such a successful tactic because if we start winning in Afghanistan before the election, you guys are totally sunk.

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» kidding right?? Posted by: ankius...
» What is 'winning' in Iraq please? Posted by: foreverhope
» I just noticed Posted by: slydad
Well written
Posted by: robbie.seal on Sep 13, 2008 8:49 AM   
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When I saw the title, I almost ignored the article, but I am glad I did not. I think the Surge in Iraq is due more credit than the author gives, but "Tomato"... "TomAto".

The Surge did give the Iraqis the breathing space. The difference is that the Shia committing ethnic cleansing were no longer given a pass (atleast not as much), therefore, the Sunnis started turning away from the AQI support that carried with it the oppressive interpretation/enforcement of Sharia law. The sectarian violence began to slow because of grassroots efforts by local Sunni and Shia leaders. Sunnis are participating more in the government. Unless the Iraqi National Government exploits the momentum and forms a government for all Iraqis, it will squander the gains made against extremists. It can show how serous it is by passing legislation for fair distribution of oil revenues.

As far as Afghanistan, The article ignores the Taliban. I don't think too many folks doubt the oppression that the Afghanis, especially women, lived under with them. I don't even dream that the present government is perfect, but a return of the Taliban is not an acceptable outcome. A surge in Afghanistan must deal with the Taliban in order for NGOs to operate in Afghanistan.

Example, if Afghani farmers have a choice between poppy fields and starving, we know which one they will choose.

As far as Coalition forces in Afghanistan, many Coalition governments do not support sending their troops into harms way. They want peace keeping like the Balkans, therefore their forces will not participate in actions against the Taliban. Their numbers are empty numbers.

I did not support the invasion of Iraq, but no one asked my opinion. I believe in the war against the Taliban and think we should have finshed them instead of opening the second front in Iraq. When I am emporer of the world things will change. I do not relish the thought of serving another combat tour, but if the US wants to finish them off, then we'd better apply force where it is needed. The tenacity of the Taliban is eveidence they will not stop if we leave. They will retake Afghanistan and claim victory against another Super Power, and therefore become more powerful.

That is a cost the Afghanis and we cannot afford.

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Afghanistan: the Graveyard of Empires
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Sep 13, 2008 11:12 AM   
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In 330 C.E. Alexander the Great tried to take it and lost, so later did Babur of the Mongolian Empire. The British lost twice and then lost their empire. As did the Soviets.

Even the CIA says we cannot win militarily.

Give it up. We have made more enemies there because our "precision airstrikes" have killed at least 5 wedding parties as well as thousands of women and children. Fighting is making it worse. History is on the side of the Afghan people. It's time to engage in reconstruction and diplomacy.

The only reason Bin Laden has not been found is because BushCo doesn't want him to be (barring the fact he may already be dead). Hundreds of no-bid, cost-plus war profiteers have too much money to lose if/when OBL is found. He's great for business.

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» You quote the CIA? Posted by: Ky Lake Dave
Too late. Bush announced a troop increase for Afghanistan early next year
Posted by: cthelyt on Sep 13, 2008 6:33 PM   
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and representatives of both Obama and McCain attended the meetings held to discuss the policy change. Both candidates have already said they support redeployment of troops from Iraq into Afghanistan. Obama also indicated support for US incursions into Pakistan, which have already begun. If we compare the expansion of the Vietnam war to this expansion, it is equivalent to invading Cambodia and bombing Laos.

McCain has indicated support for a return to military conscription. Charlie Rangel has already indicated his support for the same and, I believe, has sponsored legislation that would restore the draft for both men and women this time. For now, the legislation has been tabled, but next year, regardless of who wins the White House, all bets are off. The empire must have a cheap source of troops to achieve its goals, and conscription is a no-brainer. The public has shown how readily it complies with top-down leadership directives and can easily be coaxed by the government and media into supporting whatever they claim is needed for security and peace in the long run. They will make sure that life goes on as little disrupted by distant wars as possible, and they've done a great job of it these past five and a half years.

If we're all dead in the long run anyway, who'll be left to care?

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» RE: Too late. Posted by: peridot
Is the left afraid we will win
Posted by: Ky Lake Dave on Sep 13, 2008 10:08 PM   
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another one with a surge? Then what will they have to bitch about? The worst thing the L.A. Times can complain about in Iraq right now is that the Iraq people are getting overwieght. The L.A.Times blame the USA of course! Obama agrees with a surge in Afganistan. It is going to happen. No matter which person is elected president. Get over it.

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Applying leeches to cure Anemia..!
Posted by: TJColatrella on Sep 13, 2008 10:38 PM   
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That's what our misadventures in the Middle East are in reality..

We have been forced to fight their war, not our war or type of war...

This is true of the Iraq occupation after our defeat of Saddam's forces and also Afghanistan after the betrayal at Tora Bora and the escape of huge numbers of Taliban and al-Qeada from nearby cities with the aid of the Pakistani ISI, and in a 1,500 vehicle caravan we allowed to just drive out of Afghanistan full of Taliban and al-Qaeda..!

Iraq and it's somewhat dubious "success" is comparable to doing a terrific job, painting the wrong house the wrong color..

All we have really succeeded in doing is weakening our military severely dividing our nation and doubling our national debt..while also allowing the pilfering of our Treasury..

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bar5608
Posted by: bar5608 on Sep 13, 2008 10:58 PM   
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In all due respect, Joseph Stiglitz has it absolutley backwards. The US has all it's cards in the game sequestered in the Capitals of both Iraq and Afgahnistan. It's not working. We have to send small contingents of troops along with some local troops, out into the countryside to cooperate with and protect the local Tribal leaders. Only by shoring up and protecting those leaders and their villages will we ever be able to outlast the Insurgents and Taliban. We have to win the hearts and minds of the people, and stop murdering them with 2 ton bombs.

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The French connection
Posted by: jbloggz on Sep 14, 2008 6:05 AM   
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I watched an interesting Tv program last night on France24 their 24 hour news service in English. There was a long report from a young French woman reporter who was imbedded with the Taliban. That's it the Taliban. They allowed the filming of their lives and preparations for an attack. Then they allowed her to cover the attack itself on a police check point. The Taliban were pretty tough, many had been fighting for thirty years. They showed their rocket launchers and other stuff, even doing a practice shoot out in the desert prior to their attack. They rode on four wheel drive vehicles and motorbikes and were brazen as they rode the routes to their prey with impunity. Of course you won't find such reports on any US TV because it gives the wrong message, as does Jamie Dorans documentary 'Convoy of Death' where thousands of Taliban were slaughtered in shipping containers by US led forces. The conclusion I came to is that this is a war which will never be won by the US and it's surrogates. The good news is that whilst they're trying to win this one they'll be too tired and worn out to try anymore. It only remains now for the Pakistanis to decide that these US incursions into their country must be dealt with and you have trouble bigtime looming. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of occupiers!

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The "surge" in Iraq was a strategic blunder
Posted by: Garvagh on Sep 14, 2008 11:52 AM   
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Great piece! The Bush administration, with help from an incompetent American media, lulled the American public into a false feeling of "success" in Iraq, when the continuing squandering of hundreds of billions of dollars on an unnecessary war, is gravely injuring the US. A "surge" in Afghanistan would be a colossal strategic blunder because the US already has far too high a profile in that war.
No stability in Afghanistan is possible without help from Iran.

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always dumbfounded...
Posted by: christianslayer1955 on Sep 14, 2008 12:29 PM   
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And still is at writers who have the audacity to speak about America's moral authority..Only to a person ignorant of America's foreing policies or lacking in moral authority him or herself,would the thought of America ever having posessed such an attribute ever occured.American governments have during the course of it's history overthrown over 50 democratically elected governments.Thousands of people have gotten killed and brutalized all over this planet by our governments on behalf of large private companies.Our military has been used the same way a head of a crime family would use his capos to destroy his enemies.There is a strong need on the part of so called progressive writers and bloggers to tell the whole truth all the time about the evil right (they call themselves republicans or conservatives or blue dog democrats).Until that day comes,we are going to keep spinning around this wheel of insanity forever and ever..

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