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McCain and Palin's Top 20 Lies, Myths and Flip-Flops

By Isaac Fitzgerald and Tana Ganeva, AlterNet. Posted September 12, 2008.


Agents of change? Symbols of feminism? A roundup of these and other ridiculous tall tales coming from McCain's increasingly desperate campaign.

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The corporate media won't say it and the Obama campaign isn't saying it enough, so we're saying it loud and clear: John McCain is a liar. And so is the woman he now shares the Republican ticket with. Yes, Sarah Palin is a liar, too. Together they are responsible for one of the most inaccurate and misleading presidential campaigns, in a business known for inaccuracy and misdirection. But even by the standards of American politics, the McCain-Palin ticket seems to be in a race with itself to set new standards of low.

This isn't opinion, this is fact. Time and time again, on the campaign trail, in press briefings and in interviews, McCain and Palin flip-flop on the issues, propagate myths they know to be false, and flat-out lie to the American people.

Unlike the McCain campaign, we have to back up our assertions, so here is a quick, short and cited list of the top 20 lies, myths and flip-flops that have come from the McCain/ Palin ticket so far.

1. The Myth: McCain and Palin claim to be agents of change.

The Truth: In a desperate attempt to revive McCain's "maverick" reputation, the McCain campaign is trying to co-opt Obama's slogan. But "change" is a tough act to pull off when your record almost exactly matches the current president's. According to a study cited by the Huffington Post, John McCain voted in keeping with the president's positions 100 percent of the time in 2008 and 95 percent in 2007.

2. The Lie: To burnish Palin's rep as a down-to-earth, no-nonsense fighter of government waste, the campaign keeps bringing up the state-owned jet Palin put on eBay. Today McCain stated: "You know what I enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay -- made a profit."

The Truth: As Politico points out, Palin did put the Alaska-owned plane on eBay. But she failed to sell it. Instead, the state had to go through a private broker to unload the jet and ended up losing money in the transaction. Or, the opposite of profit.

3. Flip-Flop: Offshore Drilling.
Original Position: In 1999, McCain made conservatives very unhappy by supporting a moratorium on offshore drilling.

Politically Expedient Position: McCain can't afford to make conservatives unhappy anymore; his campaign now depends on the rapturous love of a conservative base that is still suspicious of him from when he used to take intelligent positions. So he switched his position on offshore drilling. As Dana Milbank at the Washington Post writes, McCain recently argued that "those very same 'moratoria should be lifted' and proposed incentives for the states 'in the form of tangible financial rewards, if the states decide to lift those moratoriums.'"

4. The Lie: McCain and Palin have said up to 29 times and counting that Palin told Congress "'thanks but no thanks' on that Bridge to Nowhere."

The Truth: Palin strongly supported the Bridge to Nowhere and campaigned on the issue while running for governor of Alaska in 2006. It should also be noted that she never actually got the chance to tell Congress "no thanks," as Congress killed off the project, choosing instead to give a lump sum for all of Alaska's transportation projects, money that Palin gladly accepted.

5. The Lie: McCain keeps repeating, over and over and over again, that Obama's tax proposals will hurt the middle class.

The Truth: Obama's tax policy cuts taxes for people in the middle-income brackets, while his plan would increase taxes only for those with a family income above $250,000 and individuals who make more than $200,000. Not exactly the middle class.

6. The Lie: McCain falsely claims he received every award from every veterans organization.

The Truth: Despite saying it again and again, McCain is flat-out lying when he claims to have received the highest award from every veterans organization. As Think Progress reports:

He received a grade of D from the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America and a 20 percent vote rating from the Disabled Veterans of America; Vietnam Veterans of America noted McCain had "voted against us" in 15 "key votes."
As for the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars -- with whom McCain claims to have a "perfect voting record" -- both groups vigorously supported Sen. Jim Webb's (D-Va.) GI Bill that McCain tirelessly opposed.
Given McCain's grades at the Naval Academy, maybe he thinks 20 percent approval is actually really good.

7. Flip-Flop: Immigration Reform.
Original Position: McCain was once a proponent of an immigration plan that would combine securing the borders with a temporary worker program and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

Politically Expedient Position: With his poll numbers dipping and under attack from Republican opponents during the primaries, McCain switched his position on immigration. As the AP reports, instead of supporting broad immigration reform, McCain's first and foremost priority now is to secure the borders. All that other, less important stuff, could come ... whenever. Stated McCain: "I got the message. ... We will secure the borders first and then go on to other issues."

8. The Lie: An attack ad (ironically called "Fact Check") by the McCain campaign claimed that Factcheck.org, a nonpartisan election-accuracy watchdog, accused Obama of spreading misleading information about Sarah Palin.

The Truth: Factcheck.org did not attribute Internet rumors about Palin to the Obama campaign. The organization was in fact debunking information about Palin spread online though anonymous e-mails and Web posts.

9. The Lie: The very same attack ad seems to purposefully misquote an article in the Wall Street Journal. The ad states that the Obama campaign sent a team to Alaska to "dig dirt on Governor Palin."

The Truth: The article actually stated they were sent to "dig into her record and background." Also, as it turns out, the article was wrong to begin with. Obama did not send a team to Alaska to dig into anything. What are the chances McCain will pull the ad and apologize?

10. The Lie: An attack ad by the McCain campaign says Obama is "against troop funding."
The Truth: According to Factcheck.org, Obama has only voted against one war-funding bill, "after Bush vetoed a version that contained a date for withdrawal from Iraq."

11. The Myth: McCain echoed his wife's dubious claim that Alaska's proximity to Russia makes Palin qualified to tackle the complex foreign policy issues facing the next administration. When asked if Palin is up to the challenge of dealing with "an insurgent Russia," McCain responded, "... Alaska is right next to Russia. She understands that."

The Truth: As Steve Benen, writing for CBS News, points out:
Palin has never been to Russia. She's never demonstrated any expertise on U.S. policy toward Russia. She doesn't have any background in international relations at any level. But for Republicans, the fact that she's lived in a state near Russia is somehow a qualification for national office. ... It's the dumbest argument I've ever heard.
12. The Lie: A McCain Web ad affixed the clever moniker "Dr. No" to Obama, claiming Obama says "no" to energy "innovation" and to "the electric car."

The Truth: In fact, according to Factcheck.org, "Obama proposed a $150 billion program of research into a wide variety of clean-energy technologies last year." Also, Obama is not against the electric car. He's against McCain's ridiculous plan to award a $300 million prize to the person who fixes a glitch in electric car battery technology.

13. The Lie: McCain says that Obama wants kids to learn "about sex before learning how to read."

The Truth: McCain's attack ad "Education," in which he blatantly lies to try to make it look like Obama wants to educate kindergartners about sex, cites a bill that was a piece of legislation in the Illinois state senate. The bill was meant to add disease prevention to already standard Illinois state-approved sex-ed classes. That means, in cases of education in kindergarten, nothing more than child predator prevention. For McCain to exploit a bill that protects small children from deviant criminals in our society is disgusting.

14. The Lie: McCain claims Obama doesn't think Iran is a threat.

The Truth: In a misleading attack ad titled "Tiny," meant to make Obama look naive about foreign policy, McCain took an Obama quote out of context to make it look like he thinks Iran is a "tiny" threat. The ad does not note that Obama said Iran is "tiny" when compared to the threat that the Soviet Union once posed to the United States. Which, you know, when you think about all those nuclear warheads and that giant army, it is.

15. Flip-Flop: Windfall profits tax.

Original Position: McCain has said he would look into a windfall profits tax, a smart thing to do when gas prices are through the roof and oil companies are reporting record profits. While speaking in North Carolina on the campaign trail, McCain said:
I'd be glad to look not just at the windfall profits tax -- that's not what bothers me -- but we should look at any incentives that we are giving to people, that or industries or corporations that are distorting the market.
Politically Expedient Position: Of course, McCain was singing a different tune while talking with oil industry insiders in Texas, where he made fun of Obama's support of windfall profit taxes:
He wants a windfall profits tax on oil, to go along with the new taxes he also plans for coal and natural gas. If the plan sounds familiar, it's because that was President Jimmy Carter's big idea too -- and a lot of good it did us.
So which is the senator for? A tax that will help the people, or a favor for your buddies in big oil? We may never know.


16. The Lie: CBS's Katie Couric thinks Obama is using sexism against Palin.

The Truth: A misleading attack ad released by the McCain campaign titled "Lipstick" ends with CBS's Katie Couric saying: "One of the great lessons of that campaign is the continued and accepted role of sexism in American life." The ad implies that Couric is talking about the Obama campaign's treatment of Palin, but in reality the quote is from before Palin joined the McCain ticket; Couric was talking about Hillary Clinton. CBS was so upset over the dishonest way that Couric's quote was used that it forced the McCain campaign to take the ad down.

17. The Lie: McCain proposes that Obama is the cause of rising gas prices.

The Truth: This one is just absurd. There is no way that Obama is in any way responsible for rising gas prices, as McCain proposed in his attack ad, "Pump." In fact, McCain himself has said that the energy problems we face today were "thirty years in the making."

18. The Lie: Obama snubbed wounded troops in Germany because the press couldn't come with him.

The Truth: Andrea Mitchell of NBC, who was part of the press corps that toured with Obama, reacted when McCain's attack ad came out by saying: "That literally is not true. ... The point is that Obama had no intention of bringing any cameras with him -- I was there, I can vouch for that." Obama's reason for not making the visit: He was worried that it would be politicized. Before arriving in Germany, Obama had visited wounded troops while in Baghdad, without any press.

19. The Myth: McCain argues that Palin is a historic feminist pick.

The Truth: A woman has already been nominated to be a vice presidential candidate. The Democrats beat the republicans to the punch 24 years ago with Geraldine Ferraro.

That is much less important than the fact that Palin isn't a feminist pick at all. You can't be against so many feminist causes and be a pro-feminist pick. Now, capitulation for the far Right, that's probably closer to the truth.

20. Flip-Flop: Super POW John McCain Changes His Tune on Torture.

Original Position: McCain's original stance on waterboarding, straight up: "It is torture."

Politically Expedient Position: But when push came to shove, he voted against a bill that would have set an interrogation standard forbidding waterboarding no matter what. Sometimes even an ex-POW has to look tough. Luckily, the bill still passed. Unluckily, McCain's good buddy George W. Bush vetoed it.

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McCain is a veteran politician too
Posted by: slydad on Sep 12, 2008 12:42 AM   
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And as such, finding position adjustments and even down right flip flops is an easy task. There isn't a single politician that has been around for more than a few years that you can't find something on. That's the nature of the game. That's not exactly an excuse for him necessarily, but it is to say that claiming there are flip flops is kind of a non-story.

This article is a prime example of how we can twist things just a little bit and make a misstatement or slip of the tongue combined with slight position change appear to be a diabolical lie. If you were to take an honest look at McCain, he may be a lot of things, but a liar is not one of them.

I could give you a top 20 list of Obama/Biden "Lies, Myths and Flip-Flops" too but that would be an equally non-story.

What I like about the McCain/Palin ticket is that they are both have a real clear history of going up against cronies and doing what they believe to be right. I haven't always agreed with McCain, but I respect and admire his resilience and his chutzpah.

To me, Obama seems to be much more of a talker than a doer. In the few years that he has been in the Senate, he hasn't done anything of note. Also, the things that he promises to do if elected are wrong headed.

I don't know if McCain/Palin is going to follow through with all their promises, but I would rather take a chance on them than on the likelihood that Obama might actually keep some of his.

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» Thank you Redbird Posted by: slydad
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» Like I said Posted by: slydad
» RE: Like I said Posted by: maxpayne
» Like I said Posted by: slydad
» RE: Like I said Posted by: maxpayne
» Yeah, too bad Posted by: slydad
» Change Posted by: badkitty
» RE: Change Posted by: slydad
» RE: Change Posted by: badkitty
» Who are we second rate to? Posted by: slydad
» RE: Change Posted by: maxpayne
» waynep Posted by: waynep
In addition to lying, McCain distorted his so-called heroic POW record.
Posted by: VetAgainst McCain on Sep 12, 2008 1:14 AM   
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For decades, John McCain talked very little about his POW experience. In fact, several years ago, McCain's official Senate Web site did not list his medals and awards for valor.

McCain's apparent modesty vanished when he decided to run for the presidency this year and began exploiting his POW record.

The most blatant example is McCain's "refusal" to accept early release from North Vietnam, which he claimed was his "greatest test of courage."

The truth is, he had absolutely no choice in the matter. First, he had been ordered by his senior U.S. POW camp commander not to accept repatriation. Second, if McCain had disobeyed the order, he would've humiliated his family and ruined his Navy career.

In June 2008, former POW Phillip Butler, who spent over eight years in captivity, wrote about the predicament in Military.com this way:

John was offered and refused "'early release." Many of us were given
this offer. It meant speaking out against your country and lying about
your treatment to the press. You had to "admit" that the U.S. was
criminal and that our treatment was "lenient and humane." So I, like
numerous others, refused the offer. This was obviously something
none of us could accept. Besides, we were bound by our service
regulations, Geneva Conventions and loyalties to refuse early release
until all the POW's were released.


On September 4, 2008, while giving his GOP nomination acceptance speech before a rowdy Republican crowd, McCain shamelessly played his old POW card again -- from the top, middle and bottom of the deck.

The low point came when he boasted that his bravery had been challenged, but not Senator
Obama's. How more absurd could McCain get? A white man of privilege asserting that in
America's Caucasian-dominated, prejudiced society, a black man never faced a test of
courage!

What about every waking day of Barack's life, having to appear in public with a skin color different from most people around him -- the "Mark of Cain," as evangelical Christians whisper in private.

John McCain should be ashamed of himself for making such a denigrating statement about his opponent. Obama's activism in South Chicago shows he has more compassion in his little toe for the plight of impoverished Americans than does the egocentric Arizona senator have in his entire, pumped up, flag-draped body.


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» Hugh Scott Posted by: LionHeart
All the lying attack ads...
Posted by: casey60622 on Sep 12, 2008 2:01 AM   
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...make me glad I don't really watch regular programming and/or that I live in Chicago where the GOP doesn't waste its money.

Because if I had to see the ads I have viewed online or read about every day, more than once, I might have to break my T.V. And then there would be glass all over the floor and I'd probably cut myself. Yet another tragic casualty of Republican cynical, manipulative campaigning.

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FISA
Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals on Sep 12, 2008 3:01 AM   
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There is more from Obama

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» RE: FISA Posted by: LionHeart
Don't trust the Replicans
Posted by: FMABBI on Sep 12, 2008 4:42 AM   
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The Republicans have nearly ruined our country - unfathomable national debt (every man, woman & child owes $300,000), illegal war which murdered tens of thousands of innocent people and killed our own young, brave soldiers as well as traumatizing countless others as a direct result of this debacle, our standing and influence in the world - we are seen as BULLIES - attacking a sovereign nation without imminent threat is unforgivable, lying to the American people about the reasons for going to war with Iraq, the spying on Americans without going through due judicial process WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW, unitary executive powers (study it - it's SCARY and BUSH used it to expand the executive power), signing statements (the Constitution says the legislative branch writes the laws and here we have Bush saying in essence that he doesn't agree and is exempted from certain parts of the law), and there's MUCH more that the Republicans have done these past 8 years to degrade us in EVERY WAY. Did McCain prevent any of these from happening?

Do not trust McCain/ Palin to fix this mess - the Republicans are the ones that caused it. We need fiscal responsibility back. We need intelligence in governance. We need respect and influence back. We need DEMOCRATS in office!!!!!

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Palin reminds me of Iran in the 1978
Posted by: F-Abdolian on Sep 12, 2008 4:44 AM   
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Her language, her behavior and her action is so similar to the fanatic religious zealots of the Hezbollah of Iran before the revolution that she scares the hell out of me.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/12/



At times visibly nervous, at others appearing to hew so closely to prepared answers that she used the exact same phrases repeatedly, Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of “anticipatory self-defense.
...
“I’m ready,” Ms. Palin answered without any hesitation in an interview with ABC News on Thursday, saying she had felt no doubt about accepting Senator John McCain’s offer to run as his vice-presidential nominee.
I answered him yes, because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can’t blink,” Ms. Palin told her interviewer, Charles Gibson. “You have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we’re on, reform of this country and victory in the war.

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» RE: Palin reminds me of Iran in the 1978 Posted by: helenahanbasquet
So, what has Obama done?
Posted by: PJAW on Sep 12, 2008 5:04 AM   
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One of the McCain camp's favorite anti-Obama screeds is, "He hasn't done anything". That's simply not true. Here's an example of what he's done as a Senator, in fact the first thing he did in office. It directly relates to making the U.S., and the world, a safer place. For the complete article, go here http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/568/

"Obama's first foreign travel as a U.S. senator was with Lugar in August 2005, when the two men visited nuclear weapons storage and dismantlement facilities in Russia, Ukraine and Azerbaijan.

The following spring, Lugar and Obama authored a Senate bill that authorized the president to carry out a program to provide assistance to foreign countries to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. The bill does not specifically list different types of weapons of mass destruction, but we'll take as a given that it includes nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.

The larger part of the legislation was a separate measure to stop the spread of conventional weapons, notably shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles that the legislation refers to as man-portable air defense systems, or MANPADS.

The bill's provisions were incorporated into a House bill that passed later that year and was signed into law in January 2007."

If you investigate just a little, you'll find that he's done several good things, despite being in the minority party.

McCain, on the other hand, has voted overwhelmingly in lockstep with Bush, and unless you're one of the 29% that approves, you'll realize what a disaster that has been.

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» RE: So, what has Obama done? Posted by: john mont
Lies and the lying liars who tell them
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 12, 2008 5:13 AM   
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A tip of the hat to the future senator from Minnesota....

The fact of the matter is the nasty reality that the GOP cannot - under any circumstances - run on their ideas. Why? Because their "ideas", so to speak, are atrocious.

Right now, they are claiming that Senator Obama has been "disrespectful" to Sarah Palin thoughout this campaign. That's how desperate these con men are....Excuse me, I meant "con persons". With all that is happening to our once-great nation, what do these assholes have us debating?

LIPSTICK ON A PIG

Now doesn't that just make you feel all warm and squishy inside?

Now for the $64 question: Are the American people going to be stupid enough to fall for this garbage? As insane as the electoral process has become in the last twenty-eight years, as mind fuckingly dumbed down as the electorate has become - anything is possible.

Tom Degan
Barck Needs Our Help

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You know something? After watchin Mccain/Palin campaigning in VA like brats and then see Obama
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 12, 2008 5:14 AM   
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I am quite surprised that Obama has actually proven himself to be more mature than the Mccain/Palin camp. And darn, too many good 3rd/Independent candidates. It drives me crazy that there's Nader and Mckinney and alongside Paul. I mean I love all these independents but I just wished they'd join together as one united Progressive/Liberal Independent Party. As of now, none of these 3rd party candidates are doing or saying anything new or the anti-two-party sentiment would be up by now. Oh well, I might just come back and give it up and vote Obama/Biden or just sit it out. Who knows ??

All I can say is politics has become too fucking childish and America needs to GROW UP !

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Increasingly Desperate??
Posted by: redbird30328 on Sep 12, 2008 5:41 AM   
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... seems to me like Obama's campaign is the increasingly desperate one.

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» RE: Increasingly Desperate?? Posted by: blitzmesser
» Troll Posted by: LeaderofMen
Utterly contemptible lack of respect and decency
Posted by: stevehamlin on Sep 12, 2008 5:42 AM   
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After both presidential candidates agreed they wouldn't campaign on September 11th -- there's Sarah Palin, doing an interview.

On Patriot's Day.
On September 11th.

What, indeed, is honor John McCain?

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The Real Issues
Posted by: edraven on Sep 12, 2008 5:44 AM   
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Interesting article...

This election is not about who is black, who wears lipstick, who calls his wife a c_nt, or who wears hair plugs.

It is about the last seven+ years, and the next four.

Ed Graham

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» RE: The Real Issues Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: The Real Issues Posted by: shd1230
Nice
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Sep 12, 2008 5:58 AM   
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Best post I have seen in MONTHS! You hit the nail on the head. What I find amazing is that there are actually people out there taking McBush/Palin seriously! HAve the Sheeple completely lost their minds? How can anyone be so blind? It just defies logic.

Jiff
Is your ISP watching?

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» RE: Nice Posted by: bookie
» RE: Nice Posted by: blitzmesser
Hold McCain to the military's own honor code
Posted by: kroenung58 on Sep 12, 2008 6:12 AM   
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As a former infantry officer in the U.S Army, I'd like John McCain to be held to the military's honor code, which applies to all officers and to all academy students:

"An officer will not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do."

We need to start showing up at all of his events and throwing this in his face.

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On Myth #1: McCain and Palin as Agents of Change
Posted by: Roy Eidelson on Sep 12, 2008 6:32 AM   
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It’s only fitting that a truly memorable demonstration of human gullibility will mark its 70th anniversary just before Election Day. On the night of October 30, 1938, thousands of radio listeners concluded that Orson Welles’ adaptation of The War of the Worlds was the real thing: a live account of Martian invaders landing in Grover’s Mill, New Jersey. Those fooled by the show’s air of authenticity exhibited signs of panic and hysteria. Some called the police for guidance on how they could protect themselves. Some fled their homes for greater safety farther from the invasion site. And some listeners fainted beside their radios. Within hours the hoax was fully revealed, and public outrage swiftly followed.

Today, Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin seem intent on creating similar mass confusion for their own purposes. Because in promoting themselves as agents of change, they’re clearly hoping that voters will mistake fantasy for reality. After all, during a 2005 Meet the Press appearance McCain himself claimed, “On the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I've been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.” And according to the non-partisan Congressional Quarterly, last year he voted in line with the president 95% of the time -- more than anyone else in the entire Senate. But given the president’s abysmal approval ratings as the election approaches (29% in a recent USA Today/Gallup Poll), it’s really no surprise that the McCain-Palin campaign is working so hard to spin their “maverick” yarns.

Unfortunately, their plan could work. Research psychologists have found that fictional narratives can be especially powerful vehicles for persuasion. Even when we know that the stories are untrue. Drawn in by our emotions, we’re simply “transported” by the setting, the plot, and the characters -- in part because a well-told tale helps us make sense of our own personal experiences. The problem with our susceptibility in this particular context is that we become easy prey for political predators more focused on victory than truth-telling.

When unable to separate fact from fiction, we voters can’t possibly make well-informed choices. Yet as citizens it’s ultimately our responsibility to weed out the pretenders. Between now and November 4th, a tenacious independent media could make our task much easier. But this would require that the media resist the lure of false narratives while demanding substantive answers to substantive questions.

If nothing else, the past eight years should have taught us one thing: a poor choice in the voting booth can lead to consequences as catastrophic as an invasion from Mars. So before pulling the lever for right-wing candidates touting their credentials as reformist agents of positive change, first look around to see whether the Martians may have already landed.

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Bible-Believing Christian Conservative Opposes Palin
Posted by: OnlyJesusSaves on Sep 12, 2008 6:52 AM   
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For reasons why, please listen to my program here and comment; thanks.

http://www.theamericanview.com/

John Lofton, Editor, TheAmericanView.com
Recovering Republican
JLof@aol.com

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McCain was against torture
Posted by: surfreality on Sep 12, 2008 7:06 AM   
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before he voted to allow testimony obtained "under duress".

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Want to socialize poverty and terrorism in America? Vote Mccain/Palin and
Posted by: GrantBurkeVT on Sep 12, 2008 7:07 AM   
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watch this country finish crumbling to dust. And I thought the last 8 years were horrible enough. Mccain/Palin are nothing more than the next set of Karl Rove puppets that'll make even Bush/Cheney look "liberal" in pale comparison !

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Liars all.....
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 12, 2008 7:13 AM   
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In these the days of political "truthiness", it is best that we all do our due diligence and look into what the facts and truth really are! It is a shame that politics have sunk to new lows, brought about by "Rovian" style politics! But then a willing populace, America has become, is primed for these pumps (or pimps take your choice)!

As Americans many of us have either forgotten or are too busy in our own lives, so we assume the media will give us the "truth"! I don't think we in this country realize how bought and paid the corporate media has become! It's all about the money, and which way it flows. Those with money are willing to do anything to protect the status quo as long as they are making a profit!

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X-POLYGAMIST WIFE in ARIZONA
Posted by: X-POLYGAMIST WIFE on Sep 12, 2008 8:17 AM   
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McCain turns a blind eye to the human rights violations in Colorado City, Arizona, home of the FLDS polygamists who are robbed of their democratic rights and who rob Arizona taxpayers of 30 million a year!

http://www.bankingonheaven.com

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Stop Making Sense
Posted by: punabear on Sep 12, 2008 9:48 AM   
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Rush Limgaugh is always saying that us libs just don't get it. He's right.
You must read this essay that was linked from Judith Warner's column in the NYT http://edge.org/3rd_culture/haidt08/haidt08_index.html

All who think the repugs are just ill informed need this perspective. If Dobson or Bush or even Palin say the moon is made of green cheese, then it will become the new battle cry. Some followers may even suspect it's not true but at their next convention all will be shouting "Green Cheese, Green Cheese" And the very thing that will solidify that notion is some pointy head liberal pointing out that that green cheese moons don't exist. They're not dumb. They're just loyal beyond all logic.

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» RE: Stop Making Sense Posted by: gzuckier
» RE: Stop Making Sense Posted by: LeeAnnG
» RE: Stop Making Sense Posted by: helenwheels
McCain is a "False Flag" Operation by Lobbyists..!
Posted by: TJColatrella on Sep 12, 2008 10:32 AM   
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McCain's entire campaign is a "False Flag" operation run by Lobbyists for Lobbyists, to head off the real reform and regulation our nation and economy so desperately needs..!

Google McCain's Lobbyists.com

There is a great interactive chart there to keep track of them the main ones and that's who will be running the White House if he and Palin are elected God forbid..!

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sarah jett
Posted by: gzuckier on Sep 12, 2008 12:26 PM   
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needless to say, the winner of the bargain jet nonauction turns out to be politically connected to alaska republicans.
kos

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what a woman
Posted by: gzuckier on Sep 12, 2008 12:29 PM   
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not only is palin an expert on national security because her state is the closest to russia, but she is also an expert on space exploration, since mt. mckinley is the spot in the US closest to space.

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Pedophiles for McCain!!!!
Posted by: jreal on Sep 12, 2008 1:07 PM   
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It is clear that McCain is furious in Obama's stance to protect childeren from peodophiles.

Why does McCain and Palin love child predators.

If I were you, I would keep your childeren away from McCain and Palin.

I hope all the sexual predators in prison don't get an early release if they are elected.

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Pedophiles for McCain/Palin
Posted by: jreal on Sep 12, 2008 1:09 PM   
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It is clear that McCain is furious in Obama's stance to protect childeren from peodophiles.

Why does McCain and Palin love child predators.

If I were you, I would keep your childeren away from McCain and Palin.

I hope all the sexual predators in prison don't get an early release if they are elected.

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Should Child's Protective services be looking out for Palin's kids?
Posted by: jreal on Sep 12, 2008 1:12 PM   
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People need to keep a close eye on Sarah Palin. Her childeren are in danger. That could be how her daughter got pregnant. It might be her own dad's. But if not, she might have psychological problems if she was a victem of child molestation.

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you are too stupid to talk to humans
Posted by: Bob Horn on Sep 12, 2008 6:09 PM   
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Anyone who votes for McBush is either so stupid or so evil that they would have voted for Hitler. Why are you here? Go to some neo-Nazi blog to talk to morons like yourself.

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End race-baiting on FAUX - Can you help get this out?
Posted by: foreverhope on Sep 12, 2008 6:42 PM   
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calling out Fox on its pattern of racist smears against Senator Obama and Black people in general. We need to send a strong, clear message to Fox executives that weak apologies won't pacify us--- we want the race-baiting and fear-mongering to end.
Fox is a huge corporation and they need to feel a huge push-back from us---so we need as many voices as possible. Can you ask your friends and family to join our call?

Below you'll find a brief letter you can send. Personalize it as you wish or write your own, but please send it along right away. Also, please only contact people who know you personally. Spam will hurt the effort.


You can cut and paste the text below into an email message:


Dear Friends,

Right now, Fox News is trying to paint Barack Obama as foreign, un-American, suspicious, and scary. They're trying to send Americans the message that our country's first viable Black candidate for President is not "one of us."

I've joined on to ColorOfChange.org's campaign to push back on Fox, publicly demanding they stop their race-baiting and fear mongering. If that doesn't work, then we'll go to their advertisers and the FCC. I wanted to invite you to sign on as well. It takes only a moment:

http://www.colorofchange.org/foxobama/?id=2039-652685

Here's what happened recently:

After Senator Obama won the nomination, he and his wife gave each other a "pound" in front of the cameras. Fox anchor E.D. Hill called the act of celebration a "terrorist fist jab." Then last week, a Fox News on-screen graphic referred to Michelle Obama as "Obama's baby mama"--slang used to describe the unmarried mother of a man's child. It was a clear attempt to associate the Obamas with negative cultural stereotypes about Black people, an insult not only to Michelle Obama but to women and Black people everywhere.

After each of the incidents mentioned, Fox issued some form of weak apology. But what does it mean when you slap someone in the face, apologize the next day, then slap them again on the third? It means the apology is meaningless.

These aren't one-time incidents--they're part of a pattern that continues no matter how often Fox is forced to apologize. Fox has a clear record of attacking and undermining Black institutions, Black leaders, and Black people in general.

If we don't push back now, we will see more of the same from now until November. Please join me in helping to bring an end to Fox's behavior.

http://www.colorofchange.org/foxobama/?id=2039-652685

Thanks.

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(ir)responsible coverage
Posted by: YogiBear on Sep 12, 2008 10:42 PM   
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The New York Times has an excellent article on the subject. It's finally dawning on the media they're being used as pawns in the McSame smear campaign by making every false attack story into a he said she said story.

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McCain is using Bush Tactics
Posted by: stevee on Sep 13, 2008 11:50 AM   
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Man, I just took at a peek on youtube about McCain lies and their are hundreds of videos of McCain saying one thing and later saying something else. When I checked google news, there seems to be a mounting of evidence in print as well. And his ads on Obama are way out of bounds.

I must admit, McCain is good...I believed him...but the evidence is too compelling and his last two ads on lipstick and sex education on Obama turned me off completely. It seemed like the type of tactics a man who is comfortable with lying would use. My eight year old son has more integrity than this man. I'm sure he was a POW, but I'm starting to wonder how much he embellished that story after the mounting evidence of lies he has told during this campaign. This guy in the White House would be a disaster.

McCain seems like the real actor since his lying is so convincing, or this tells you after 26 years in congress what a typical politician is like. I guess McCain is right, we do need to clean up Washington, starting with him.

Since the Republican party backs all of McCain's stories and after years of distortion from Bush, I'm starting to see what the true Republican platform stands for. Twenty-three years in the military, I always voted Republican, but these type of Republican tactics are not honorable and the American people deserves better.

An excellent video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

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Here is another Palin lie...
Posted by: djnoll on Sep 13, 2008 7:39 PM   
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Sarah claims that she is responsible for a $3200 check going out to every citizen of Alaska this week. That is just plain lying, and most Alaskans know it, but most people from the lower 48 do not, including apparently the McCain campaign.

IN the early 1980's a deal was reached between oil companies and the state, whereby the state's citizens received an annual royalty check for the oil sales from the pipeline and wells. Originally it was for about $1000, and was instituted at about the time Sarah was only 19 or so. I know this because my husband was raised in Alaska and received checks before leaving to join the military voluntarily, and he is a couple of years older than Sarah.

(By the way, someone should check out how Sarah's paragon son ended up in the military. There was a comment from someone who lives in Wasilla that his volunteering was he direct result of his conviction in the cutting of brake lines on School Buses in Wasilla. He supposedly was given the chice of enlisting or going to jail. Anyone know the facts or where they can be found?)

She had nothing to do with this revenue sharing law, but she, like every other citizen including her husband and all her children (total this year: $22,400 to the Palins), has benefited from it every year since. All she is required to do as governor is sign the allocation order, and this year it is for about $3200. SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS DISTRIBUTION, THE LAW THAT MADE IT MANDATORY, OR THE AMOUNT THAT IS ALLOCATED! She is required by law to sign the allocation order, period. She has,however, profited from this bill every since she was a teenager. So much for caring for the people of Alaska, Sarah!

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Sincere Talking Points
Posted by: centrist2008 on Sep 14, 2008 2:46 AM   
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(1) It is unfair to not mention that there are at least 3 Bush Doctrines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine):
1 - Preemptive Strike
2 - Unilateralism
3 - Treatment of Detainees (as Enemy Combatants)
Rightly or wrongly, a bookish knowledge of these is not a requirement. If that was the case and the President had listened to our book-keepers, the US would have withdrawn after the 2006 mid-term elections and lost the Iraq War - a war that Biden voted for. Instead, our "dumb" and "gut-driven" President ignored the many nay-sayers, including the Joint Chiefs of Staff (WPOST), opened a back-channel inside the Pentagon and came up with the Surge Solution - a solution that even Obama has now reluctantly acknowledged as having 'succeeded beyond the wildest expectations'. And in so doing, our "dumb" and "gut-driven" President created monumental doctrines, some far greater in importance than, say, President Clinton's.

(2) It is unfair to not quote that the Alaska National Guard (http://www.akguard.com/), under the leadership of Governor Palin, held joint border exercises with its Russian counter-part over the course of the last 2 years. Please also quote her follow-up response, something like: 'It brings up the neighbor's perspective that we live in a small world; that Russia is not far removed, but right next door.'

(3) It is unfair to question Governor Palin ability to handle her job and her family while also praising Biden's commitment to riding the train for 2+ hours everyday and returning to work soon after his wife's fatal accident (Obama thus praised him in their first introduction).

(4) It is unfair to question Governor Palin about her teenage daughter's pregnancy without also not questioning Obama about his teenage mother's pregnancy when she had him at 18 (Obama).

(5) It is unfair to argue that Governor Palin by putting her family on the convention stage cannot rightly protect it from the media, when the same protection is extended to Obama's 2 daughters.

(6) It is unfair to accuse Governor Palin of charging her state monies without also emphasizing that she charged less than legally allowed, and much less than her predecessor (WPOST).

(7) It is unfair to make simple per capita funding comparisons between Alaska and Illinois given that Alaska's infra-structure is not as developed, but when developed it will benefit capita in many more other states because of its rich natural resources.

(8) It is unfair to claim that Governor Palin linked Iraq with Sep 11 when she linked it with Islamic Fundamentalists, like so: "...defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans" (ABC).

(9) It is unfair to publish articles belittling Governor Palin's choice for a down-to-earth hair-salon while also keeping mum on Biden's hair-plug (NYT).

(10) It is unfair to not carry a story of equivalent coverage emphasizing that the infamous State Trooper is still employed as a State Trooper even after threatening the family of the sitting Governor, given Union Policies.

(11) It is unfair to not carry a story of equivalent coverage debunking the false claim that Governor Palin banned books from her public library (including popular ones like Harry Potter's).

(12) It is unfair to not present the full quote by Governor Palin wherein she explained her religious belief as a personal matter, and how she believes, like many of us, that "everything happens for a reason" (albeit God's reason).

(13) It is unfair to not carry a story of equivalent coverage outlining the lack of executive government experience of Obama and Biden, and how neither has ever balanced a budget, unlike Governor Palin.

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Palin is no feminist
Posted by: CA NOW on Sep 17, 2008 11:13 AM   
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No matter how wide one casts the net of feminism, feminists believe in the essential equality of women and men, and that they are entitled to equal opportunities and compensation.

Most women want equal pay, paid sick leave, maternity leave policies that don't put the U.S. years behind every other industrialized nation, and nationwide health care that covers everyone. You won't see those policies from Palin or a McCain administration, and women know that.

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Liar, liar, oil-drilling pants on fire!
Posted by: slugsucker on Sep 18, 2008 6:09 PM   
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Liar, liar, oil-drilling pants on fire!
Apparently, a good chunk of the American public has not had enough of 8 years of lying, corporate-owned assholes running D.C., enriching the rich, screwing over the middle and lower classes, depreciating real estate and stock values at incredible rates, wasting a huge tax surplus, putting soldiers in harm's way, fucking over the environment, and much more, and would like to put a couple of (well one, at least) fresh faces into the nation's driver's seat to continue on. The ignorant dumbasses of America deserve this type of treatment and the consequences, but don't take the rest of us down with you. (couldn't we just divide the country into two parts, Billy-Bobland, and the rest?)

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McCain is a Flip-Flop artist
Posted by: dalporto on Sep 18, 2008 8:42 PM   
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I like McCain. The old McCain. The guy who was moderate on abortion, who was in favor on workable immigration reform, who was against prisoner torture, who was against wiretapping. The problem is, that's not the McCain of today.

Today McCain stands for nothing except McCain. Since his loss to bush, he has changed his position on just about every important position in a desparate (and effective) attempt to secure the 2008 nomination. Flip-flops? Check. Lies? Check. Distortions? Check.

I cannot vote for this man. He has sold his sole to the Bush....err...Devil.

More flip flops and opinions here:

http://www.fixourpolicies.com/

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One more thing
Posted by: dalporto on Sep 18, 2008 8:45 PM   
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McCain has also flip-flopped on the tax cuts and fiscal restraint. After years on the budget committee fighting for balanced budgets and opposing the Bush tax cuts, he flip flopped and supported renewing them.

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I wish the veterans against McCain would hold a press conference
Posted by: lelectra on Sep 22, 2008 12:22 AM   
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Or stage a demonstration that was so big the complicit press would HAVE to cover it.

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I Wish You Wouldn't Include "Myth" in That Title
Posted by: mythman on Oct 7, 2008 11:57 AM   
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But--like Jesus among the tax-collectors--'myth' stays true.

You see, all news is myth.

I go into more detail in comments on this Xomblurb.

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