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The US Has 761 Military Bases Across the Planet, and We Simply Never Talk About It

By Tom Engelhardt, Tomdispatch.com. Posted September 8, 2008.


America garrison the globe in ways that really are unprecedented, and yet, if you live in the United States, you basically wouldn't know it.
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Here it is, as simply as I can put it: In the course of any year, there must be relatively few countries on this planet on which U.S. soldiers do not set foot, whether with guns blazing, humanitarian aid in hand, or just for a friendly visit. In startling numbers of countries, our soldiers not only arrive, but stay interminably, if not indefinitely. Sometimes they live on military bases built to the tune of billions of dollars that amount to sizeable American towns (with accompanying amenities), sometimes on stripped down forward operating bases that may not even have showers. When those troops don't stay, often American equipment does -- carefully stored for further use at tiny "cooperative security locations," known informally as "lily pads" (from which U.S. troops, like so many frogs, could assumedly leap quickly into a region in crisis).

At the height of the Roman Empire, the Romans had an estimated 37 major military bases scattered around their dominions. At the height of the British Empire, the British had 36 of them planetwide. Depending on just who you listen to and how you count, we have hundreds of bases. According to Pentagon records, in fact, there are 761 active military "sites" abroad.

The fact is: We garrison the planet north to south, east to west, and even on the seven seas, thanks to our various fleets and our massive aircraft carriers which, with 5,000-6,000 personnel aboard -- that is, the population of an American town -- are functionally floating bases.

And here's the other half of that simple truth: We don't care to know about it. We, the American people, aided and abetted by our politicians, the Pentagon, and the mainstream media, are knee-deep in base denial.

Now, that's the gist of it. If, like most Americans, that's more than you care to know, stop here.

Where the Sun Never Sets

Let's face it, we're on an imperial bender and it's been a long, long night. Even now, in the wee hours, the Pentagon continues its massive expansion of recent years; we spend militarily as if there were no tomorrow; we're still building bases as if the world were our oyster; and we're still in denial. Someone should phone the imperial equivalent of Alcoholics Anonymous.

But let's start in a sunnier time, less than two decades ago, when it seemed that there would be many tomorrows, all painted red, white, and blue. Remember the 1990s when the U.S. was hailed -- or perhaps more accurately, Washington hailed itself -- not just as the planet's "sole superpower" or even its unique "hyperpower," but as its "global policeman," the only cop on the block? As it happened, our leaders took that label seriously and our central police headquarters, that famed five-sided building in Washington D.C, promptly began dropping police stations -- aka military bases -- in or near the oil heartlands of the planet (Kosovo, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait) after successful wars in the former Yugoslavia and the Persian Gulf.

As those bases multiplied, it seemed that we were embarking on a new, post-Soviet version of "containment." With the USSR gone, however, what we were containing grew a lot vaguer and, before 9/11, no one spoke its name. Nonetheless, it was, in essence, Muslims who happened to live on so many of the key oil lands of the planet.

Yes, for a while we also kept intact our old bases from our triumphant mega-war against Japan and Germany, and then the stalemated "police action" in South Korea (1950-1953) -- vast structures which added up to something like an all-military American version of the old British Raj. According to the Pentagon, we still have a total of 124 bases in Japan, up to 38 on the small island of Okinawa, and 87 in South Korea. (Of course, there were setbacks. The giant bases we built in South Vietnam were lost in 1975, and we were peaceably ejected from our major bases in the Philippines in 1992.)


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Tom Engelhardt, editor of Tomdispatch.com, is co-founder of the American Empire Project and author of The End of Victory Culture.

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Keep Reminding Us ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Sep 8, 2008 12:13 AM   
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And everyone tell a friend ...

So when you say " Let's cut the military budget in half ! " and

your "friends" say "We can't do that"

You say " But we have more than 750 Military Bases Overseas!"

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» How about Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» Or how about Posted by: badkitty
» RE: Keep Reminding Us ... Posted by: mmckinl
US government is the enenmy of the World
Posted by: corey on Sep 8, 2008 3:58 AM   
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The US Government is the largest terrorist organization on the face of the earth, and Americans seem to be the last to realize this.

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Make that 762 Military Bases
Posted by: Richard House on Sep 8, 2008 3:58 AM   
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This should not be overlooked. CNN will not covered it.

A new air base inside the city limits of an historical and national heritage city of
Vicenza was being built but was temporarily stopped by a local court order. Nevertheless, it looks like Berlesconi will eventually override it.

The garrison will undoubtedly house nuclear components and other dangerous weapons, use massive amounts of water and electrical resources which the Italians will have to pay out of their pockets.

A related articled to the one above also from Counterpunch An Airbase in Vicenza
How Italy Became a Launching Pad for the US Military


Other mostly in Italian websites fighting the US occupation of their country:

Altra Vicenza

No Dal Molin

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One Corpirate Nation occupies The WORLD!
Posted by: williameon on Sep 8, 2008 4:09 AM   
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Corporations are the capital appendages of the RICH!
Interlocking Boards
Schlock Market
Pump and Dump!
15,000 Families own 95% of the Wealth
And
You pay for it.
Every time you barrow a Nickel or
Build a House
The Bank gets two.

All for Me and
NONE for you.
Another slice of pie in the sky please?
Crosses, Flags and Crucifixes are hard to swallow
On an empty stomach.

Tax cuts for Trillionaires.
You get the I.O.U.
Does that sound fair.
10 Million Millions in DEBT and
The FAUX Media says nothing about it.
That’s a fiscal conservative?
I see nothing!
Except Brittney Spears underwear!

Everything is going up except your pay.

Exxon is doing it's once in four years
Magic act.
Cutting Gas prices in 1/2 by Selection Time.
That's the extent of their Compassionate conservatism.
Conserve everything for themselves and nothing for you.
They control the Media.
They control your indoctrination set.
The Government is 75% Privatized
Job 1 well done.
Destroy America!

It is Corporate Controlled.
Bush/Chainey are Corporate Clowns/Clones.
Plop, Plop
Fizz, Fizz
The Fix is in.
Oh, what a relief it is.
”The polls are close” the Parrots cry.
Why should we believe you know
When everything you’ve ever told us is a lie?
Wink, wink
Smirk, smirk
100 more years!

The Crass Media spews endless
Rovien:
Hypnotic Mind Bending
PROPAGANDA!

The Mime Police are breaking heads and taking numbers.
Exactly WHO are they Protecting and Serving?
Bush/Chainey
Time to take to the Streets
Before they crumble.

Surge
Purge
Update and
REBOOT!

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A Fact On The Ground
Posted by: Last Chance on Sep 8, 2008 4:19 AM   
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If it looks, sounds, smells, feels and tastes like an empire and it has 761 military bases around the World, then it IS an empire, the American Empire. But what about the Russian and Chinese wanna-be empires? OOPS! World War Three?

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When "conservatives" complain about wasteful spending, they'll never want to bring this one up.
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 8, 2008 4:33 AM   
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By the way, we're borrowing money from other countries to pay for this kind of imperialism. As the oil dries up and the countries hit the FORECLOSURE SWITCH against the U.S., these worthless bases would be better off being removed. Besides, homeland security in the U.S. itself is a total joke already !

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» Funny how Posted by: Ignatz deFyre
Their Is one Person
Posted by: Godfather89 on Sep 8, 2008 4:40 AM   
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Their is one person who has continue to talk about our aggressive foreign policy, and in fact says how many bases we have globally. RON PAUL, since he is out of the race vote for Bob Barr.

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» RE: Their Is one Person Posted by: leTerrassier
» RE: Their Is one Person Posted by: littlepear
Where are the candidates on this?
Posted by: chlamor on Sep 8, 2008 5:12 AM   
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Well silent of course.

Hear even a peep from Obama on cutting the military budget? Of course not.

Obama, like McCain, is for increasing the military budget and increased US military activity around the world.

Anyone serious about health care for the people, public transportation and a sane foreign policy would immediately put cutting the US military budget by at least 50% at the top of their list but we don't hear that as the US political system is owned and operated by the US Corporate-Military Contractor-Media Complex.

Have a nice day at the polls citizen.

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» RE: Where are the candidates on this? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» Answer: Posted by: Ignatz deFyre
like eating a weiner
Posted by: grmartin on Sep 8, 2008 5:37 AM   
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Swallowing the American dream is sort of like eating a weiner - just don't ask too many questions about what's in it.

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» I'm giving this a 10!! Posted by: edgeofnowhere
Isolation
Posted by: El Hombre Malo on Sep 8, 2008 6:25 AM   
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There is a factor not mentioned in the article that speaks volumes about the character of the bases; isolation.

I write from Spain, where we've had american bases since Ike got all cuddly with our post-nazi Franco. Back then the basesserved a military purposes, but also had an influence. Spain endured a dictatorship but the american personel were allowed to say and do as they pleased. Of course they often choosed to visit the seediest places. It is said that the americans cut the prostitute population of Madrid by half by means of marriage, and hooker joints are still called "barra americana" to this day.

We had a strong censorship but there were cinema theathres with uncensored american movies. There were radio stations, bars, magazines, condoms... Yes, condoms were forbidden in Spain until the seventies but you could get them in the base and distribute them outside under the guise of "american chewing gum". Something, not exactly freedom, trickled from the bases and influenced the spanish society for good or for bad. The romans did this on purpose and I am sure the cultural colonization effect of a big spending base in a foreign country wasnt a factor for the USA either. You might think its positive or not, but its an strategy.

Or it was. Because everything has changed. Right now american bases are isolated isles. Fenced towns with american schools, american supermarkets, american movie theatres and american bowling strips. Everything is shipped from the USA at exhorbitant prizes to mantain an illusion of home away from home... and to make for the huge profit the providing companies obtain. The mayor of Rota (where a key strategical naval base sits) complains that the base is nothing but a nuisance now. They hire few if any spanish workers, they dont spend at all in local commerce, yet they burden the town with their presence and "security requirements". The mere presence of the base forces the locals to drive 20 minutes more to get anywhere out of town, and the base personel enjoy a private beach in a country where, by law, no portion of the coast can be privately owned. The mayor, of course, demands for the americans to leave. And the cultural impact of the base is actually negative. Rather than a mean to assimilate foreign population, it is now just a gold mine for certain american contractors.

And dot forget isolation works both ways. Spaniards, japanese, germans... they cease to receive the influx of american personel, but those american soldiers dont get anything from their trip either. Traditionally, the military was the only way for most people to "see the world". Boys who wouldnt have been exposed to anything but their local culture and way of thinking would suddenly see different things, people, values. Some would learn from it. All but the most idiotic would at least be affected by the experience. And now?

Now most will come back thinking how closely the world resembles Boise, Idaho.

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» RE: Isolation Posted by: Dboy
» RE: Isolation Posted by: El Hombre Malo
"Little Americas"
Posted by: taxidriver on Sep 8, 2008 6:38 AM   
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The previous commenter is right: These bases are known as "Little Americas." Even in England, where the natives do, after all, speak largely the same language, some troops hardly ever leave the base, living in near total isolation. They don't even try to learn about their host countries, or to speak another language.

Another problem: The more bases we have overseas, the more targets we present to potential enemies. Most Americans would consider an attack on an overseas base to be an attack on our sovereign soil, so each base is a potential flashpoint for the next campaign against "global terror."

And at 760+ and counting, that's a lot of flashpoints.

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Empire
Posted by: GuitarBill on Sep 8, 2008 6:44 AM   
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.

The US military does not "defend the United States."

The US military maintains an empire by force.

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» RE: mpire Posted by: Carlos111
The fate of empires
Posted by: edgeofnowhere on Sep 8, 2008 8:04 AM   
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Every empire throughout recorded history has overreached its capacity and collapsed. The faster the empire rose, the sooner it collapsed. They all extend their reach and military beyond their ability to pay for it. Thus, they must either raise taxes or debase the currency -- both courses of action are self destructive. I think we need to prepare for our collapse, because empire, once initiated, always follows the path to self destruction. No political party or leader will now be able to change its course.Get ready for the end of the American Empire. Hint: The currency falls first.

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Military bases all about white supremacy
Posted by: nfamous on Sep 8, 2008 8:31 AM   
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White supremacy is a mental defect in white people. I know we are talking about the government but whenever you put whites into a powerful position it seems many of them invariably use that power to exploit others for their own advancement and advantage. I'm not saying other races don't do it as well because it clearly is a human flaw but whites really do take it to the extreme.

The real problem is that there is no solution because whites that are not in power, numbering almost two hundred million in this country and a third of the entire white population on the planet, sit back and do absolutely nothing to remedy this situation. Some things can only be fixed by whites because the problems are too big for a nonwhite's opinion to be taken seriously because of the exact same white supremacy that started all of this in the first place.

Whites have been duped in this country. The elite don't give a damn about you anymore. There used to be a sort of unspoken racial loyalty between poor whites, middle class whites and the elite. Now the elite only care about making more money and saving money. The bulk of whites have been forsaken for profit. Sadly, whites still desperately cling to the false hope that their skin will one day swing the pendulum back in their favor. That is how racism damages white people.

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This article brings to mind
Posted by: njeastman on Sep 8, 2008 9:18 AM   
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Chalmers Johnson and his Blowback Trilolgy.

Chalmers Ashby Johnson (born 1931) is an American author and professor emeritus of the University of California, San Diego. He is also president and co-founder of the Japan Policy Research Institute, an organization promoting public education about Japan and Asia. He has written numerous books including, most recently, three examinations of the consequences of American Empire: Blowback, The Sorrows of Empire, and Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic.

Johnson believes the enforcement of American hegemony over the world constitutes a new form of global empire. Whereas traditional empires maintained control over subject peoples via colonies, since World War II the US has developed a vast system of hundreds of military bases around the world where it has strategic interests. A long-time Cold Warrior, Johnson experienced a political awakening after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989, noting that instead of demobilizing its armed forces, the US accelerated its reliance on military solutions to problems both economic and political. The result of this militarism (as distinct from actual domestic defense) is more terrorism against the US and its allies, the loss of core democratic values at home, and an eventual disaster for the American economy.

The above two paragraphs are quoted from Wikipedia.

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Talk about deficit......
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 8, 2008 10:16 AM   
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As much dirt as "the government" has done in other countries, we the people should be very afraid. Maybe Congress should stop rubber stamping the DOD appropriations bill? I figure if we cut that by oh, half, we will have some serious money to pay back our Chinese bankers and really invest in America's future!

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We never seem to talk about it
Posted by: Dboy on Sep 8, 2008 11:18 AM   
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Here's an example from today's news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080908/ap_on_re_as/afghan_civilian_deaths

(take out the space to over come the alternet dark ages bug)

The headline reads: "Video shows dead Afghan children after US raid".

Small clip:

" KABUL, Afghanistan - Two videos that appear to show the bodies of at least 10 children and many more adults covered in blankets and white shrouds lend weight to Afghan and U.N. allegations that a U.S.-led raid killed scores of civilians last month.
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One video, obtained by The Associated Press on Monday and apparently taken by a cell phone, is grainy and details such as a precise body count are difficult to make out. But it appears that several dozen bodies, all covered by blankets, are lined up one next to another in a mosque.

Wailing Afghan women and men occasionally lift the blankets to show dead children or the disfigured faces of men.

A second video shows three young children wrapped in white shrouds. A fourth child has gruesome head wounds. In total, the bodies of at least 10 children can be seen.

The two videos, both obtained by The Associated Press, give weight to Afghan and U.N. findings that scores of civilians, including 60 children and 15 women, died in the Aug. 22 U.S.-led raid in the village of Azizabad. U.S. special forces and Afghan commandos carried out the operation."



Notice the tone of the article. WHAT is the NEWS here? That the US murdered Afghan children, OR the fact that it's on film? My point is that just about everything we are told is a lie. The article I cite above is an example of that. When the lie is not sufficiently whitewashed, THAT is news. NOT the murder, not the terrorism. When the Matrix is revealed, when we experience the Desert of the Real...THAT is news.

What the US chooses to label as terrorism is the RESPONSE *to* terrorism, using the only tools that the poor have to fight back with. 9/11 was a shock because THEY fought back. They did to us what American is supposed to be doing to them. And that was certainly a shock. And this is why the US govt is expecting more terrorism. It will be the response to US actions.

dboy

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Cost Benefit Analysis
Posted by: idmaster2000 on Sep 8, 2008 11:27 AM   
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You all say this like it's a bad thing, and the columnist's tone is more than a little flippant.

761 bases and an absurd amount of military spending is the cost of being an empire. I happen to enjoy the rights and privileges of living in an empire, and I know that if we were to relinquish our imperial status in the same way that Britain did last century, some other nation would take over and push us around.

It's still a dog-eat-dog world out there, which is the fact to which this article seems ignorant. We don't get to drive hybrids and obsess about our diets' carbon footprints if China, Germany, the USSR, or Japan is dictating to us they way we've dictated to them.

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A dishonest Article
Posted by: EncinoM on Sep 8, 2008 11:41 AM   
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By using the broadest definition of "Base" to include carrier groups, stations and posts, the Author was able to present an emotional article light on facts.

Carrier groupd by their very nature are not fix bases but move from area to area. Post and stations are are manned by skeleton crews uually with a single mission to carry out.

Additonally, the large base outside of the US are in NATO nations, not third world countries.

High on emotions light on facts.

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Bases instead of Colleges
Posted by: Arkham42 on Sep 8, 2008 11:44 AM   
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While I served in Afghanistan in support of Task Force Phoenix (we train the Afghan National Army or ANA) what disappointed me is that we build 'cheap' bases. They are made out of kerosene treated wood, and while they are somewhat impermanent, we sink a lot of money into them. Now most bases used by members of TF Phoenix were co-located on ANA bases.

I was at Camp Lightning located with the much larger ANA base of Camp Thunder. What bothered me is that hopefully, someday we won't be needed there and we'll leave. So all this money went into buildings that won't really be useful after we leave. I always wished that instead of a 'cheap' base, the US had spent money properly and build a college. Sure it'd be a 'fortified' college, but the dorms would have housed the troops, the mess-hall would be the cafeteria, and the classrooms would be were we'd all work. Even the motor-pool could be used to train after we left.

So instead of spending money for mostly 'nothing' we'd at least be leaving the Afghans with modern schools attached to their military bases where hopefully students could learn (and the soldiers too) in safety.

What a terrible waste of an opportunity.

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» RE: Bases instead of Colleges Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
» RE: Bases instead of Colleges Posted by: bobtr900
That "Coke and Smokes" sidebar ...
Posted by: just john on Sep 8, 2008 12:08 PM   
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The new Chalmers Johnson* article you link to has a sidebar titled "Coke and Smokes," which points out that three of the top selling items in base PXs are cigarettes. They add up to 1.4 million units sold in one month! (The "coke" part was about caffeinated beverages.)

And that got me thinking ... If we could call the anti-tobacco campaigners' attentions to this and started a call for not selling cigs at PXs, that fight might shine some light on the sheer size of our overseas military presence.

* I really envy that name. It's up there with Spalding Grey for sounding important.

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Global Domination
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Sep 8, 2008 1:27 PM   
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Global Domination at its finest! Dictator Bushes number one priority! I mean its obvious he could care less about his own Sheeple!

Jiff
Ultimate Anonymity

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Useless ABM system in Poland & Czech Republic
Posted by: Garvagh on Sep 8, 2008 4:17 PM   
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The staggering squandering of US taxpayer funds on the useless ABM system that has been a Republican fetish since the Reagan administration, gets little attention. At least $120 billion spent on something virtually guaranteed not to work.

David Frum had visions of the US as a latter-day Roman Empire, controlling the entire Middle East. What an idiot!

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With 761 military bases worldwide -----
Posted by: symcokid on Sep 8, 2008 4:26 PM   
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we must be on the threshold of conquering every nation on earth. Probably all we have left to accomplish is to totally surround Russia with our missiles and alert Israel to take out Iran's Nuclear.

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America, at least, is the freest nation on Earth
Posted by: blogbooks on Sep 8, 2008 5:45 PM   
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Link

Of course, freedom is not something the left values.

You think certain rights DO need to be taken away.

You DO want to make the civilian population defenseless against criminal and policeman alike.

You DO want to make it illegal to say anything you disagree with.

So, tell me again why I should care what you think?

I gave up my freedom for 2 years to protect all our freedom. I don't like you totalitarians on the Left or the Right.

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So long Dubya, we’ll always have Guantanamo!
Posted by: blogoffanddie on Sep 8, 2008 7:16 PM   
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The US has military bases all over the world and continues to build even more, spending as much as the rest of the world combined on military. Why? It is an imperialist empire.

Since world war 2, America has invaded Iraq (twice), Haiti, Panama, Grenada, Laos, Cambodia, North Korea, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Somalia, the Dominican Republic and a bunch of other Latin American countries. The US has bombed civilian populations in Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq, Serbia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, Lebanon (actually, naval shelling) and North Vietnam. I probably missed a few. The US has overthrown or attempted to overthrow numerous countries – “regime change” – and has been involved with coups against democratically elected governments in Iran, Guatemala, Venezuela, Haiti and Chile.

Under George W. Bush, the US has dropped the Kyoto treaty, cancelled the ABM treaty, refused to join in banning of land mines and biological weapons and has invaded Iraq on the basis of lies. Bush has also done a serious number on a once glorious constitution.

That Americans are not protesting in the street in the millions, is a testament to how complete the takeover and transformation into a corporatist/fascist state has been. Not since nazi Germany have the propagandists had their way so unchallenged.

http://www.blogoffanddie.wordpress.com

"the mark of 'the beast' is just a bad haircut"

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Read the US Military Bases Report
Posted by: Earthian on Sep 8, 2008 8:11 PM   
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Here is the link to the official report on US bases, for anyone who thinks Englehardt is not solid on the facts:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/ie/irm/
irm_library/BSR2006Baseline.pdf

(I split the link to fit within the AlterNet word-length requirement.)

On page 6 of this 190 page 2006 report, the total is listed for overseas bases as 766.

The 2008 report lists 761 bases on page 6. Here is the link. Go to Portfolio Summary page:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/ie/irm/
irm_library/BSR2008Baseline.pdf

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If you think it's bad now...
Posted by: VetAgainst McCain on Sep 9, 2008 12:02 AM   
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wait until President McCain takes office.

A PNAC member and longtime neocon, he will expand our armed forces overseas in order to dominate the world with U.S. military power, a prime PNAC objective.

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America
Posted by: 876 on Sep 9, 2008 11:16 AM   
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Your nation is the "evil empire". Here's hoping your nation disintegrates and soon.

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Let's Face It...
Posted by: guybjones on Sep 11, 2008 3:24 AM   
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The United States military forces, and by extension, the Pentagon, are just pawns in a larger game being manipulated and exploited by the military-industrial-complex for its own profit and financial gain. The U.S. is not immune from being hurt by the same factors that helped to bring about a collapse of the Soviet Union -- unrestrained defense spending and ill-advised and foolish foreign interventions (both of which are certain to be continued under a McCain administration). The supremacy of the military contractors in raiding taxpayer coffers and influencing policy, combined with our $10 trillion national debt (plus another $40 trillion in domestic social entitlements), and, finally, a complete lack of serious planning for the ramifications of Peak Oil bode ill indeed for the future of this country.

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» RE: Let's Face It... Posted by: cori
Makes sense
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Sep 11, 2008 12:53 PM   
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its all part of Dictator Bushes Global Domination efforts.

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Is it really 761 bases?
Posted by: daniel99 on Sep 13, 2008 2:38 AM   
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While I don't argue with the overall conclusions of this analysis, I do think it necessary to exactly define the difference between "site" and "base." To really get an idea of how many overseas "bases" the US has, consider that a base is a location where a 'large' number of soldiers, sailors and airmen - and their families - are stationed; these folks all have to eat. So, let's take as a pretty good proxy count for actual 'bases' only those locations which have a commissary.

If you look at commissaries.com, you can quickly find that there are 262 commissaries worldwide (incl. USA - there is a convenient 'store locator' function on the home page). Of these, according to my count, the vast majority are located in the US, Alaska, Hawaii and Guam - all very domestic. How many are located overseas? Just 74 - see my list below (I have removed several still in the commissaries.com list - e.g. GEISSEN, KELLEY BARRACKS, GELNHAUSEN - as they have already closed within 2008).

Thus, the US only maintains 74 actual "bases" - or locations with 'large' military personnel concentrations requiring a commissary - overseas. The vast majority of the 761 "bases" claimed in this article should, in fact, be considered as "sites" or facilities. Many of these consist of warehouses, vehicle park compounds, antenna farms, logistics facilities, individual buildings or kaserns, housing compounds and other minor military facilities.

We really need to remember that a base doesn't just comprise a single establishment - there may be numerous smaller facilities, sites, housing areas, schools, etc., associated with the main location - but it's misleading and false to extend all of these into the "base" count just to bolster the argument.

I am not arguing that a lower count of 74 "bases" makes the excessive US military presence overseas any less of a problem. But I do think that in trying to understand what the Pentagon is doing overseas, and in determining the extent of the military presence outside the US, that we need to clearly define our terms.

Note that my list of commissaries fails to serve as a proxy for military "bases" in Iraq and Afghanistan, where the US has very large military troop concentrations, but few (none?) commissaries.

RAF ALCONBURY
RAF FAIRFORD
RAF LAKENHEATH
RAF MILDENHALL
RAF CROUGHTON
MENWITH HILL
VOGELWEH
WIESBADEN
BAUMHOLDER
RAMSTEIN AB
BAD KREUZNACH
BAD NAUHEIM
BITBURG AB
HEIDELBERG
MCCULLY BARRACKS
MANNHEIM
NEUBRUECKE
SPANGDAHLEM AB
SEMBACH AB
BAMBERG
CHIEVRES
BUEDINGEN
SCHINNEN
SCHWEINFURT
VILSECK
ANSBACH
GARMISCH
GRAFENWOEHR
ILLESHEIM
HOHENFELS
PANZER KASERNE
PATCH BARRACKS
CAIRO
IZMIR
LIVORNO
LAJES FIELD AB
RIYADH
VICENZA
ANKARA
ROTA
SIGONELLA
AVIANO AB
NAPLES NSA
INCIRLIK AB
MINEO
SASEBO FA
KADENA AB
CHINHAE NAS
HANNAM VILLAGE
CAMP HUMPHREYS
CAMP STANLEY
CAMP ZAMA
KUNSAN AB
OSAN AB
CAMP CARROLL
CAMP CASEY
TAEGU
YONGSAN
ATSUGI NAF
CAMP KURE
MISAWA AB
SAGAMIHARA
IWAKUNI MCAS
YOKOSUKA NFA
YOKOTA AB
CAMP COURTNEY MCB
CAMP FOSTER MCB
CAMP KINSER MCB
HARIO VILLAGE
CAMP RED CLOUD
CAMP EAGLE
HARIO VILLAGE
CAMP RED CLOUD
CAMP EAGLE

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And all paid for...
Posted by: bobtr900 on Sep 13, 2008 11:41 PM   
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...by the government the Repubs always hate so much, and yet they are the biggest supporters of these bases; especially the ones here in the white WASP'ish southern states. You know, the ones that give them jobs, at our expense.

And all paid for by the American taxpayer, you and me.

They do not want their tax dollars going for such things but it is alright if our northern tax dollars go for such things that benefit them.

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74 HUGE OVERSEAS BASES + nearly 600 smaller sites in 39-150 countries
Posted by: whealeydj on Sep 14, 2008 5:31 AM   
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paid for by BORROWED money. the economic collapse of last two years was caused by wasteful spending on stupid overseas wars on borrowed money.America's Credit is worthless as Bear Stearns and Freddie Mac and Lehman Brothers collapse the handwriting is in the wall.

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Right wing talk show hosts hate liberals while the right are spenting us into oblivion
Posted by: cori on Sep 14, 2008 8:34 AM   
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Its so sad that the millions who buy into "liberals" as the evil doers of the world don't realize that they are the ones who will be footing the bill for the 700 plus bases around the world, plus the Iraq and afganistan wars, and perhaps future wars with Iran and Russia that will also cost triliions, plus all the tax cuts for the oil companies as they make record profits at the pump, as we out source millions of jobs and we have to also foot the bill for the bail outs to the banks and financial institutions. We are looking at trillions upon trillions of dollars as wages are falling and the cost of living is skyrocketing. How will we ever recover from this? There simply isn't enough money from us weary tax payers who are struggling to make ends meet. Those right wing liberal haters should remember who gave them social security and medicare, freedom and rights. They think its
immagration and climate change that are the enemy. Its so incrediably sad. You can find out more about right wing talk show liberal haters on Bill Moyers, The journal on PBS on the net. Uneducated populations that are easily manipulated to hate liberals are dangerous for our democracy becaus they to not understand the real issues and prefer hate as belief system.

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Gee... where have you all been?
Posted by: buddyedgewood on Sep 15, 2008 5:55 PM   
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Ron Paul's been talking about these bases for a long time! Hell he even brought it up during a debate. But noooooo! He's a nasty republican who wants a non-intervention type foreign policy and do away with the IRS and the FED.

Scary stuff!

Are you ready for Great Depression II? Well, here it comes fools!

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