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Sarah Palin's 9 Most Disturbing Beliefs

By AlterNet Staff, AlterNet. Posted September 8, 2008.


It's time to shift the discussion about Palin to what really matters: her far-right views on the issues.
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Let's forget for a moment that Sarah Palin likes to kill moose, has lots of children and was once voted the second-prettiest lady in Alaska; that's all part of the gusher of sensationalist, but not particularly substantive, news that has dominated coverage of the Alaska governor's addition to the Republican ticket.

Before the next news cycle brings the shocking information that Palin was actually impregnated by Bigfoot, we need to shift the discussion to what really matters about her in the context of the White House: her dangerous views.

AlterNet has compiled a list of Palin's most shocking beliefs, ranging from her positions on the economy to her views on reproductive rights. This list has nothing to do with her personal life, her looks or her gender. It's the stuff that voters need to know: what Sarah Palin really believes.

1. Despite problems at home, Sarah Palin does not believe in giving teenagers information about sex.

The McCain campaign is spinning Bristol Palin's pregnancy as a neat, shiny example of the unbreakable bonds of family. But while Bristol's actions and choices should not be attacked, teen pregnancy is no cause for celebration, either. To state the very obvious, it is not a good thing when teenagers have unprotected sex. And U.S. teens appear to have unprotected sex a lot: The United States has some of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in the industrialized world, and 1 in 4 American teen girls has an STI.

Like John McCain, Palin's approach to the problems of teen pregnancy and STI transmission is abstinence-only education. In a 2006 questionnaire by the conservative group Eagle Forum, Palin stated: "Explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support." Presumably the programs that do find Palin's support are ones that focus on abstinence and only mention contraceptives to talk about their supposed shortcomings.

But someone already tried that. For eight years the Bush administration has thrown its heft behind Title V, a federal program that provides states with funding for abstinence-based sex education. In 2007 an expansive study proved abstinence-until-marriage education does not delay teen sexual activity.

If Palin is elected, she will continue to throw money at a policy that does little besides ensure that a larger number of sexually active teens lack information about how to avoid pregnancy and STIs.

2. Sarah Palin believes the U.S. Army is on a mission from God.

In June, Palin gave a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God, her former church, in which she exhorted ministry students to pray for American soldiers in Iraq. "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she told them. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

Palin talked about her son, Track, an infantryman in the U.S. Army:

When he turned 18 right before he enlisted, he had to get his first tattoo. And I'm like -- I don't think that's real cool, son. Until he showed me what it was and I thought, oh he did something right, 'cause on his calf, he has a big ol' Jesus fish!
Holy war, holy warriors.

3. Sarah Palin believes in punishing rape victims.

Palin thinks that rape victims should be forced to bear the child of their rapist. She believes this so strongly that she would oppose abortion even if her own daughter were raped.

The Huffington Post reports: "Granting exceptions only if the mother's life was in danger, Palin said that when it came to her daughter, 'I would choose life.'
At the time, her daughter was 14 years old. Moreover, Alaska's rape rate was an abysmal 2.2 times above the national average, and 25 percent of all rapes resulted in unwanted pregnancies.
If Palin's own daughter was only 14 when she made that statement, does she think any girl of reproductive age is old enough to have a child? Girls are hitting puberty earlier and earlier. What if the rape victim were only 10? 9? 8?

Palin also opposes abortion in cases of incest and would grant an exception only if childbirth would result in the mother's death. She has not made any statements yet about whether she believes a 10-year-old who was raped by her father would be able to actually raise the child once it was born. Perhaps Palin doesn't care.

4. Who's really not in favor of clean water? Sarah Palin.

As The Hill reports, "Governor Palin has ... opposed a crucial clean water initiative."

Alaska's KTUU explains: "It is against the law for the governor to officially advocate for or against a ballot measure; however, Palin took what she calls 'personal privilege' to discuss one of this year's most contentious initiatives."

Palin said, "Let me take my governor's hat off just for a minute here and tell you, personally, Prop. 4 -- I vote no on that." And what is that? A state initiative that would have banned metal mines from discharging pollution into salmon streams.

She also approved legislation that let oil and gas companies nearly triple the amount of toxic waste they can dump into Cook Inlet, an important fishery. It looks like being an avid outdoorsperson doesn't mean Palin really has the health of watersheds, natural resources or our environment at heart.

5. Sarah Palin calls herself a reformer, but on earmarks and the "Bridge to Nowhere," she is a hypocrite.

Palin says she's a "conservative Republican" who is "a firm believer in free market capitalism." She's running as an anti-tax crusader, and she did make deep cuts to Alaska's budget.

So, one would assume she is no borrow-and-spend conservative like George W., right?

Well, there was the time when she served as the mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla, Alaska. According to the Associated Press, "Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million." You'd think that $27 mil in taxpayers' funds would be enough scratch for a town with a population of 8,000, but you'd be wrong. According to Politico, Palin then "racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt as mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla -- that amounts to $3,000 per resident."

Then there's her current stint as Alaska governor, during which her appetite for federal pork spending has been on clear display. The Associated Press reported, "In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation." While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "Bridge to Nowhere."

6. Sarah Palin believes creationism should be taught in schools.

Until somebody digs up the remnants of a T. rex with an ill-fated caveman dangling from its jaws, the scientific community, along with most of the American public, will be at peace with the theory of evolution. But this isn't true of everyone. More than 80 years after the Scopes "Monkey" trial, there are people -- and politicians -- who do not believe in evolution and lobby for creationism to be taught in schools.

Palin is one of those politicians. When Palin ran for governor, part of her platform called for teaching schoolchildren creationism alongside evolution. Although she did not push hard for this position after she was elected governor, Palin has let her views on evolution be known on many occasions. According to the Anchorage Daily News, Palin stated, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

Palin further argued, "It's OK to let kids know that there are theories out there. They gain information just by being in a discussion."

Not when those "theories" are being presented as valid alternatives to a set of principles that most scientists have ascribed to for more than a century.

7. Sarah Palin supports offshore drilling everywhere, even if it doesn't solve our energy problems.

If McCain was hoping to salvage any part of his credibility with environmentalists, he threw that chance out the window by adding Palin to his ticket. Palin is in favor of offshore drilling and drilling in the ecologically sensitive Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

The Miami Herald reported:
The Alaska governor has said that she has tried to persuade McCain to agree with her on drilling in the wildlife refuge. She also has said that she was happy that he changed his position over the summer and now supports offshore oil drilling.
As if that weren't bad enough, in her speech this week at the Republican National Convention, she said, "Our opponents say, again and again, that drilling will not solve all of America's energy problems -- as if we all didn't know that already." Huh. I guess drilling even when it won't help is better than working on renewable energy sources, as Palin also vetoed money for a wind energy project.

8. Sarah Palin loves oil and nuclear power.

Aside from her "drill here, drill there, drill everywhere" approach to our energy crisis, the only other things we know about Palin's energy policy, especially given her Bush-like love of avoiding the press, comes from her acceptance speech:
Starting in January, in a McCain-Palin administration, we're going to lay more pipelines, build more nuclear plants, create jobs with clean coal and move forward on solar, wind, geothermal and other alternative sources.
Nuclear power plants. Interesting. As folks look for alternative fuel sources (and again, Palin loves oil first and foremost so her commitment to any alternative energy source is suspect at best), nuclear power is enjoying a return to vogue. But here's the problem: Even the U.S. government's own nuclear agency, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, thinks an atomic renaissance is a bad idea:
Delivered by one of America's most notoriously docile agencies, the NRC's warning essentially says: that all cost estimates for new nuclear reactors -- and all licensing and construction schedules -- are completely up for grabs and have no reliable basis in fact. Thus any comparisons between future atomic reactors and renewable technologies are moot at best.
Not to mention /www.beyondnuclear.org/nuclearpower.html>all the other problems with nuclear energy, such as how to dispose of nuclear waste and the possibility of a catastrophic meltdown, to name a couple. Palin has no background with nuclear energy and shows no evidence of having looked into the science behind it or the dangers that come with it.

Also, it's time for Palin to drop another Bush-like tendency: Governor, the word is pronounced "new-clear."

9. Sarah Palin doesn't think much of community activism; she'd much rather play insider political games.

In her Republican convention speech, Palin slammed Barack Obama's early political work, saying, "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except you have actual responsibilities." Palin's put-down of grassroots workers, often unpaid or low-paid, demeaned an American tradition of neighbors helping neighbors, according to Deepak Bhargava, executive director of the Center for Community Change. But more revealing is Palin's apparent lack of experience in community change and local volunteer efforts, during her years in Alaska before becoming governor.

Scores of press accounts of her early years as mayor of Wasilla omit any mention of such work. Instead, they note as mayor, and in the intervening years before running for governor, Palin gravitated to those with power, money or influence. She worked to enlarge Wasilla's Wal-Mart and build a sports center (that went over budget in an eminent domain dispute), and she hired a Washington lobbyist, directed a political fundraising committee for the state's senior U.S. senator, Republican Ted Stevens, now under indictment for corruption, and steered $22 million in federal aid to her town. While some of her early community work was undoubtedly centered on her church, perhaps this comment by a blog reader best sums up Palin's political opportunism:
So community organizers (aren't) responsible? Or caring? Or doing anything important. What a terrible insult to the greatest community organizer of all time, Jesus Christ.

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Sarah Palin, my dream woman!
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Sep 8, 2008 12:16 AM   
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I dreamed that Sarah Paleolithic was Vice President. She didn't need the Secret Service because she packs her own pistol and submachine gun. She doesn't need a Cadillac limo because she has an F350 with a Confederate flag on the aerial, a "God is my co-pilot" bumper sticker, and five kids, 3 dogs and a dead moose in the back. She hosts televangelists' tent meetings and Holy Ghost revivals, pitbull fights, WWF matches and book burnings on the White House lawn. The schools hand out "Just say no to sex" brochures and baby carriages, and install prenatal clinics and marriage chapels.

Proponents of anthropogenic climate change views are declared national security risks and silenced. She guns down animals from the window of Air Force Two and Operation Iraqi Freedom is renamed Operation Armageddon and nuclear weapons are deployed, while back in the US of A the Homeland Security Department puts the nation on Rapture Alert.

It could be an interesting 4 years.

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» RE: Too Funny Posted by: johnjmccarthy
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» Tool! Posted by: LMNOP
» RE: Hilarious. . . Posted by: peacefullaim
Here are a few more on her disastrous energy policies...
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Posted by: Ike Solem on Sep 8, 2008 12:52 AM   
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1. Global warming isn't caused by fossil fuels.

2. $500 million dollar subsidies for gas pipelines are a good idea.

3. Getting the pipeline built is God's Will.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS_VduCWhzM

4. The Iraq War is a task given by God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ypVSYoEKA

5. Warren Buffet's MidAmerican Energy and/or Transcanada should have control over any Alaskan natural gas pipeline, rather than BP, Exxon or ConocoPhillips.

6. Using that gas to develop the Alberta tar sands is a good idea.

7. Offshore drilling in the Chuckchi Sea is a good idea.

8. On-shore drilling in the ANWR is a good idea.

9. Fighting with Russia and Central Asian states over BP-owned oil pipelines (Georgia) is a good idea.

Well.. you get the picture.

As far as her distaste for "Washington elites"?

“She can be on the phone with Dick Cheney and have (Republican Senate President) Lyda Green right outside her door, and her kids call and she goes, ‘Oops, hold on,’” said Leighow, the deputy press secretary. “Her kids trump everyone, and I think that’s pretty neat.” - Alaska Life, Feb 2008

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The Huntress Godess
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Posted by: writerman on Sep 8, 2008 1:23 AM   
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Her policies are irrelevant in the post-politcal world. It's her symbolic image that counts. Increasingly politicians don't appeal to our rational heads, but to our emotional hearts.

Rationalism is actively being replaced by emotionalism, where we are socialized into reacting emotionally to potent symbols, often embodied in the characters of individual leaders.

McCain the hero, and Palin the goddess/huntress.

We are being asked to chose a myth over reality. Power, strengh, fecundity, the maverick, the feral - compared to the effete intellectual who doesn't look like he could kill or defend anyone, not even a fly!

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» Insightful... Posted by: IntnsRed
» RE: Insightful... Posted by: aislinnluv
» RE: The Huntress Godess Posted by: mike1997
» No Mike, no! Posted by: IntnsRed
» gynecological twin Posted by: RachelAB
» You got it - she's "Twice American" (TM) Posted by: MartianBachelor
GOP mocked Obama as "The One." So what is Palin?
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Posted by: AmericanUSA on Sep 8, 2008 1:35 AM   
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It's not that surprising that the GOP evangelical base is so giddy over Palin, but what happened to the critical thinking powers of the rest of the Republican Party? This rush to embrace without any investiagation whatsoever is disturbing to say the least. Interesting column on the GOP's uncritical embrace of Palin at:
http://tinyurl.com/5c4vkm

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» Simple Answer Posted by: LeaderofMen
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Palin - Red Herring Fascist Clown (Deluxe)
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Sep 8, 2008 1:49 AM   
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How many more articles by the MSM and its "alternative" wing will devote pixels and ink to this obvious Stepford glove-puppet of a Paris Hilton VP? Volumes more of the more pointless range conceivable it seems.

Meanwhile the crooked ol' Fascist ruling class that runs all establishment players with every blood money circus sham including 9/11 coverup for farce 9/11 "war on terror" takes a back seat (or no seat at all) for the genocide that both "left" and "right" wings of DC have signed on for.

Gee, could that be part of the circus too?

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The Easy Bet
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 8, 2008 1:59 AM   
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I am going to get a pool going....

The American people are so mind-fuckingly stupid, they are actually going to send the team of McCain/Palin to the White House in January.

What do you say? Any takers?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
The Black Republicans

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» What worshippers? Posted by: IntnsRed
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» RE: What worshippers? Posted by: mainspark
» No way will I take that bet! Posted by: IntnsRed
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She's being "blogged," but that's all!
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Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Sep 8, 2008 2:05 AM   
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I think it is obvious that the internet netherworld has this piece of shit properly identified and condemned.....but where the hell are the Dipocrits? This wacko is drawing crowds and dominating every media session with her antics. Expose her totally on the campaign trail at every stop and demand McCain's accountability for saddling the nation with this irrefutable lightweight lunatic. If the Dipocrits do nothing and count on the voters in November to figure her out, she will be the V.P. in office in January and that should scare the lucidity out of everyone!

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» If the democrats criticize her Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» Whose your daddy, PussyHeart? John McSame? Posted by: VetAgainst McCain
Kudos for an excellent article
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Posted by: sheena2u on Sep 8, 2008 2:53 AM   
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Its high time we start to talk about the things that matter about Palin.

She is also for Big Coal, or at least she is unwilling to take a stand one way or the other. She seems to have a propensity to be on the side of whatever seems more popular at the time.

Palins husband works for BP Oil and also expects to promote mining more if Palin gets to the White House. What happened to green energy, conservation, and saving the world from global warming? What a waste to be stuck on oil and mining when Alaska has potential to use wind energy, tidal, solar, geothermal, and small hydro for our energy needs. Palin also wants to drill in ANWR as soon as she can.

Palin reportedly used taxpayer money to the tune of $40,000 to oppose the recently defeated Clean Water Initiative. The mining company that wants to set up Pebble Mine in Alaska has the most appallingly abysmal environmental record imaginable. The mining industry spent millions of dollars to confuse the Alaskan public about the initiative that would have done no harm to mining, but would have kept the water clean and our salmon clean and healthy. Sarah Palin then stood in solidarity with the mining companies with her public statement against the iniative. How's that for blatant abuse of power?

Palin became mayor of Wasilla when there was no debt to the town, and it was a charming, friendly, unique place filled with historical buildings. She then saddled it with two million dollars in debt, pushed unsustainable development, and blighted the town with poorly planned big box stores and gravel pits.

She pushed a multi-million dollar sports complex that is barely used. Diane Keller, Wasilla's current mayor, recently paraded around with a reporter claiming the sports complex was one of Palin's great accomplishments, and is used extensively and all the time. But, it isn't true. Its a white elephant, on land with contested title, and it is barely used part of the year. How is that for poor governance?

If Sarah Palin is so bad for Wasilla and Alaska, and she has been, how can she be okay for America? If she can't be trusted in little things, how can she be trusted with big things?

In desperation the Republicans are exaggerating or fabricating her so called executive experience, running of the national guard, and foreign policy experience. The American people deserve the truth, and they deserve a qualified President and Vice President, and Palin and McSame are not it.

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Political Flakes (warning, this product may contain nuts)
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Posted by: blogoffanddie on Sep 8, 2008 3:46 AM   
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the Democratic Party is a lot like a box of chocolates; you’re never sure where the nuts are - whereas the Republican Party is a lot like a chocolate fudge sundae, they tend to put the biggest nuts right on top.

http://www.blogoffanddie.wordpress.com

contrary to popular belief, the chances of a total and complete imbecile being elected president of the USA are actually pretty good

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Boomtown Sarah Palin
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Posted by: Last Chance on Sep 8, 2008 3:50 AM   
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uses fanatical religion to cover her corporate sponsors' scheme to turn the Alaska wilderness into a real estate bonanza for complete industrial exploitation, wildlife be damned. In the White House she would push that robber baron plot upon the whole World, peace on Earth be damned. Thus, like so many self-styled "Christians", Palin perverts the teachings of Jesus to satisfy lust for wealth and power. (By the way, hysterical laughing, jerking and fainting are symptoms of demonic possession)

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» RE: Boomtown Sarah Palin Posted by: donl51
distracted again
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on Sep 8, 2008 3:59 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
without even performing an accurate count, there are no less than 10 articles on this woman on this site alone in as many days...including an article on how she is a Republican distraction technique. so given that she's an easy target, it's apparently working.

move on please.

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» and.... Posted by: Elmowilcox
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» RE: distracted again Posted by: donl51
#4, 5, 7, 8, and 9 are what the Democrats would be better off focusing on.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 8, 2008 4:27 AM   
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I'm not going to say about the rest since I'm sick and tired of culture issues. The culture issues shit is rightwing GOP territory. The rest of the issues we can win on. 'Nuff said.

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Fighting Palin fundamentalism with more-than-thou Christianity??
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Posted by: www.suekatz.com on Sep 8, 2008 4:39 AM   
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You finish your important article with a quote I found a bit discordant.

"What a terrible insult to the greatest community organizer of all time, Jesus Christ."

Surely there are many non-Christians in the world (the majority of people in the world) who do not find elevating Jesus Christ in this way the best way to make a progressive political point.

Puzzled,
Sue

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» Oops.. forgot the link !! Posted by: smc31569
» RE: Fighting Pain Fundamentalism Posted by: americansheep
Republican Dream Ticket
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Posted by: Casey Burns on Sep 8, 2008 4:53 AM   
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This is what I predict. McCain won't make it. His heart will go out on him or he'll get sick and the Republicans will have to find someone else. They will pick Joe Lieberman. So instead of one Whack Job for Prez and Vice Prez they'll have the Dream Ticket of These Two.

Bring on the End Times!!!!!!!!!!

Except lets get all our 8-10 year old daughters pregnant first! Build Nuke Plants on offshore oil platforms in the Arctic! Bomb the Middle East back to the Stone Age, as this will convert and Save Them.

Must say something about that and Holy Wars in the Bible somewhere.

I can understand why these people are creationists and don't understand evolution, and thus deny its existence despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, as if they could claim Gravity doesn't exist. When they look at themselves in the mirror each morning, they must say to themselves "I am so UnEvolved!"

If these people get elected - all the Paleontologists will be the first to get lined up and shot.

I hesitate calling McCain a whack job. He's a POW Vietnam War Hero, after all. His trademarked title. He must have suffered as he dropped all that Napalm on the jungle villages below. Probably pushed the wrong button and accidentally ejected himself out of his fighter - blurry eyed from the previous night's recreational drug abuse, not to mention all that 2,4,5-T. And the Porn Movies they used to show the fighter pilots before they headed out into holy war battle against the Gooks.

So tragic!!!! Go America!!!!!

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Killing for God
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Sep 8, 2008 5:02 AM   
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We've reached the ultimate climax in America. The oft-repeated phrase 'When fascism comes to America it will be clutching a Bible and wrapped in a flag' has finally found it's day.

Flag = McDrill
Bible = Palin

After being attacked by fanatical Muslims, our lower-than-average rural voters are shitting their pants that their farm road address will receive a package bomb, or an envelope of anthrax. They're so busy being terrified of Jesus they actually think THEY are being targeted.

Those of us who live in cities are not scared at all - yet WE'RE the ones who would be targeted, not the Wal-Mart NASCAR family.

Why is that?

I know far too many people who live in TX. They're part of this crowd. Rural, home-schooled people are busy being totally sucked into mythology while city dwellers are busy getting about with their lives. City dwellers have a lot more variety in their lives. Their sources of information are broader and the diversity of opinions they hear from is greater than rural people's.

Rural folk have far less on their agenda other than the riding mower with beer in hand, insulting people who have a degree, and finding ways to further mix Jesus Camp with the State.

The complete insult to intelligence that rural voters demand we pay attention to is appalling. Right this second they are literally demanding that we WORSHIP McCain who graduated at the bottom of his class AND his political pick who attended 6 colleges in 6 years with a degree in journalism.

VS... now get this. This is rich:

A Harvard grad who graduated magna cum laude and a true statesman.

Yep, rural voters are DEMANDING that a low intelligence is absolutely necessary to a successfully run country.

This proves two points to me. 1. The US education system couldn't possibly be the envy of the world because not enough Americans are going to our schools and getting a good education and 2. Religious voters have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that rational thought is not to be trusted, an education is suspect, and the only thing that will be useful in government are the stupidest people they can find.

This also proves to the nation that the more religious you are the more dangerous you are. It proves it. More religious = more likely to join the military. More religious = more likely to adhere to a violent religious philosophy.

Let's see. How religious were those 19 hijackers? They were REAL religious. They were fanatical enough to DIE for their beliefs. The only difference between Muslim fanatics and Christian ones is this: Muslim fanatics will die for their religion. Christian fanatics will kill YOU for their religion.

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» With all due respect Posted by: pkricker
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The shit is already hitting the fan with election tampering
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Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Sep 8, 2008 5:31 AM   
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Tom Degan, I loved your post but I am NOT taking your bet!
On Saturday, during an audit of Arizona's ballots for the primary, an official election monitor (representing Democrats and Independents) pointed out to the state's election officials that the seals on 7 of the ballots were broken. There was no chain of custody to account for the ballots and important paperwork was missing. Therefore, the ballots should not have been counted.

When he pointed this out to the election officials, he was arrested.
To quote one poster who responded to this:
First they came for the RNC Welcoming Committee, then they came for election monitors

Here's the link to this alarming story. I don't think the American people are that stupid and I think Obama/Biden will do a good job of making McPalin look like the Christian Taliban they are. But with this shit going on? Who knows? If these 2 steal this election I don't know how the government is not going to prevent rioting.

AZ Election Official Arrested for Flagging Tampered Ballots

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» AngryWhiteFemale.... Posted by: Tom Degan
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» Got any backup for your claims? Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» We Need A Day-BEFORE Plan Posted by: Last Chance
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» Civil War Posted by: EinMD
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McBush
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Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Sep 8, 2008 5:48 AM   
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LOL, McBush is an idiot. I still refuse to believe that anyone with a single ounce of common sense would take this idiot or anything he says or does seriously. I mean really.

Jiff
Is your ISP watching?

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This shows McCain's love of country
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Posted by: pass the ammo on Sep 8, 2008 6:03 AM   
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McCain and his band of Bible thumpers say Obama doesn't love our nation and then he shoves a piece of out-and-out-trash for VP on us who could become president in a heart beat.

Doesn't that just show his "Country First" for what it is??

And people, when polls show that 45% are for that corrupt couple, what does that say about our American citizenship? I know what I say, American needs a better class of people. Dewey Funkhouser

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» This shows the left hates women Posted by: LionHeart
This woman is scary
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Posted by: davmills on Sep 8, 2008 6:11 AM   
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Particularly her stand on abortion: not even for rape victims. Shows a complete lack of empathy.

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Palin/McCain would be WORSE than Bush
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Posted by: QQOblivion on Sep 8, 2008 6:42 AM   
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Palin/McCain would be WORSE than Bush.

For instance. While Bush didn't invade EVERY country he had a hank'rin' to invade (yet), McCain is a relative hot-head who has learned from Bush that a "war-time president" can get WHATEVER he wants from the Congress, from the judiciary, and from the American people.

Then there is the pick of Sarah Palin for McCain's VP. At least Cheney only answers spiritual calls from the underworld. Palin, on the other hand, thinks it is GOD'S WILL that the US attacked Iraq. There is something very dangerous about a person whose evil is thought by that person to be a virtue. At least Cheney KNOWS he is evil.

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» Shout it! Posted by: LeaderofMen
WHAT ABOUT REV. "GOD DAMN AMERICA" WRIGHT?
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Posted by: bbfmail on Sep 8, 2008 6:44 AM   
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My concern is about a would-be President of this country who has been a member of a church for 20+ years who has a minister (who he claimed to be his mentor and spiritual advisor) who "God Damns America", and declares that 9/11 is just the "chickens coming home to roost". Did Gov. Palin's minister "God Damn America"? Did he rant about the terrible events of 9/11 were just the "chickens coming home to roost"? Is there any comparison? I think not.

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» 9/11 Posted by: EinMD
» You broke it, you own it. Posted by: LeaderofMen
This is a new low.....
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 8, 2008 6:48 AM   
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This one would make the people that ran the Inquisition so proud! Her draconian views are a real issue, that she just might be in a position to impose them on everyone else is frightening. Haven't we just lived thru the last 8 years with another person of "faith", and where has that gotten us!

While I believe that she is entitled to her opinion, she should not be ensconced in a position where she has the ability to change policy in this way. I shudder to think about a Supreme Court under them! For generations women will pay the price, and that price would be too high!

Insanity is doing the same thing, expecting a different outcome. America, please wake up! This is not about party, your God vs. my God, your culture vs. my culture, this is about we the people of this country, and how we can best move forward. In electing McShameco we will be continuing down the same wrong road. Please think now before it is too late.

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Read about the McCain-Palin "Vision" including POW themed "Amusement Camps"
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Posted by: SarahPalinAdmirationSociety on Sep 8, 2008 7:18 AM   
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Read about the McCain-Palin "Vision" including POW themed "Amusement Camps" for unwanted pro life babies and more by following this link to the "Sarah Palin Admiration Society" parody : http://sarahpalinadmirationsociety.ning.com/

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Jesus and the Governor
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Posted by: John Edward on Sep 8, 2008 7:34 AM   
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Didn't Jesus have a problem with a Governor also. And didn't that Governor have a name beginning with P. Palin's extreme beliefs should scare off any rational being on this planet as well as the creation care end of fundamentalism.
This is an example of McCain's judgement?!
I love to watch the shills sweat as they apply lipstick to this Warthog. (Warthog-an extremely ugly pig)

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» RE: Jesus and the Governor Posted by: donl51
you're getting it wrong
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Posted by: svlaws on Sep 8, 2008 8:04 AM   
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the author operates from the standpoint that a teenage pregnancy qualifies as a "problem at home". but as we've been told this last week by palin's supporters, small town folk have different values than the rest of us (the majority of us!) who live in and around major cities. a pregnant daughter is not something to hide, be ashamed of, or reject when you have "small town values" - quite the opposite.

palin and her kind are never going to "get it" when it comes to their hypocrisy regarding their kids VS. our kids, ie. private family decisions for them and government-mandated ignorance for us.

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Governor Palin & Senator McCain
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Posted by: Richmond on Sep 8, 2008 8:14 AM   
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C'mon , people .... Try to be objective about McCain & Palin ...... Please stop name-calling and concentrate on the issues .... The minute I saw the Governor on television , I knew why the Senator selected her .... She is a highly attractive person , and I like her , although I disagree with many of her ideas and policies ........ I wonder how many of you out there have read Pere Teilhard de Chardin's monumental book , THE PHENOMENON OF MAN , a synthesis of Christianity and evolution by a Jesuit priest and paleontologist ? Or how many of you are confirmed atheists , convinced that life itself is essentially meaningless ? Or how many are nominal Christians only ? .... " Judge not , that ye be not judged , condemn not that ye be not condemned , revile not that ye be not reviled ; for with whatsoever measure ye mete , so shall it be meted unto you . " The words of Yehoshua The Mashiah , Y'shua The Messiah , or Jesus The Christ ( in English as translated from the Greek . ) Respectfully Submitted for Your Perusal , Richmond Parker

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Americans...
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Posted by: Pirate1 on Sep 8, 2008 8:32 AM   
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Just look at this insanity! Do you really wonder why the world thinks so ill of us? I predict we'll actually elect these fools and reap exactly what we deserve in the way of cimate catastrophe and species decline. Of course, by then you'll all be "believers" because the media will tell you that's what's cool this year and the warming climate will be spun as the start of gawd's "fire next time", so of course you'll actually work at doing things to hasten it's arrival. I've been saying it for years to dismissals of being cynical but you're all the decendents of puritans and radical Christian sects that Europe expelled to what was then the wilderness for their lunacy. Your idiocy will be rewarded by Earth becoming a place uninhabitable by humans or any life form familiar to us... your rapture is extinction. You're all too adled to see this, of course. You all still believe in primitive middle eastern mythological attempts to define the universe and you will all find that death is no rapture. The only miracle we ever had was the fact that life like ours happened at all and once you remove it, it will be gone along with all your stupid notions of afterlives and ratures, you miserable media puppets!

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» Bit rough don't you think? Posted by: donl51
Playing the game!
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Posted by: LionHeart on Sep 8, 2008 8:42 AM   
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This article is reaching quite a bit and is an example of how the media has attacked her much more viciously than they would a man. It's pretty much like the right saying Obama is a muslim because he has a muslim name. Pretty easy to make that case but surely flase!

What I find amusing is Biden is a non entity, McCain is in the background and the focus is on comparing Obama, the dems #1 with Palin, the repub's #2. And the dems keep her in the press 24X7. It's all you see on TV., all you see on the blogs..It's everywhere..

Obviously the democrats aren't good at this smear game. Maybe thats why McCain now leads Obama in the polls?

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McCain/Palin's Crusade to Armagetton
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Posted by: carolann on Sep 8, 2008 8:47 AM   
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Thank you for a well-written analysis on Palin's positions on many issues.

First, her policies and belief systems disable her from doing any job within the public arena, whether it is a national or local job. Second, she is "anti-affirmation action" in every way, as you successfully pointed out in your article.

According to Palin, God calls us to die, not to live. So forget about a peaceful world. She will bring on the so-called Armagetton all by herself since she has already begun that crusade years ago.

If we link Palin's religious beliefs to her public policies, there are not many discrepancies between the two. Her position on "drill everywhere" will destroy the planet. Her position on "pro-choice and creationism" will destroy science, in general. It will certainly destroy the lives of rape victims that indeed can be as young as 8 years old. Obviously she has no regard for children. She is pro-choice ONLY if the MOTHER's life is in danger. She is blatantly self-serving, isn't she...as a mother of 5. She cares only for herself, not children.

While running for governor of Alaska and engaged in a debate about using Alaska's reserve funds that are set aside for unknown potential disasters, she suggested that she would let the "people decide if they wanted to spend the reserve funds for a pipeline." Most average citizens are not aware of all the issues involved with such a proposition. She used her "popularity" and manipulated the public into thinking: "wow...she would give US that power? Isn't she great?" No. She is not "great." She is manipulative. And deceitful. This is a dangerous woman, to be sure.

The mere thought of banning particular books from libraries is ludicrous. Maybe she believes God would want books banned.

Can she REALLY claim she knows what God wants better than you and I know Him? Does she believe she is THE Messenger of God? What about us? Don't we count to God, even if we don't wear lipstick? This woman is not normal, by any stretch of the imagination.

Instead of focusing on Palin, her lipstick, her sarcasm that many Americans think is "interesting," let's focus on McCain. Why did he choose her?

McCain did not vet Palin properly because he wanted to surprise us. Why do we need more surprises? Already we have had enough, on his party's watch. McCain wanted the "surprise" factor for several reasons: a) to eliminate any pre-vetting of Palin by the press and by us; b)she lacks breadth and depth in the political arena, as he would like us to believe Obama does; c)to reach out for votes from Hillary supporters; d)to appeal to the far-right, his own party; e)to give the public "someone pretty to look at."

Or maybe he just liked her looks himself, and that was enough for him. Afterall, his first wife was a model and when McCain returned from Vietnam to find her not model material anymore, due to a serious car accident, he began cheating on her with beautiful woman. Then he found his next wife, Cindy, also a former beauty pageant contestant. And now Palin? This guy's brain is not sitting in his head; it certainly located in another part of his body. Many women I know would call McCain a "dirty old man." Take that as you will, but that's what we would say.

McCain truly has lost all his dignity and now stands for nothing. His entire past is undone with the selection of Palin. His entire credibility as a "hero" is destroyed. His maverick behavior has revealed itself as irresponsibility.

Literally, to save our nation, and possibly save the entire planet, we must not allow McCain/Palin to govern. They are irresponsible, selfish, brainless people. Eight years is not enough of "more of the same." Eight years is "too much" already. Let's not make the same mistake again.

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X-POLYGAMIST WIFE in ARIZONA
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Posted by: X-POLYGAMIST WIFE on Sep 8, 2008 8:56 AM   
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John McCain and POLYGAMY? Colorado City, Arizona is home to the infamous Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints (FLDS), a town in its 8th generation of systematic violence against women and children.

For 26 years John McCain turned a blind eye, and now the corrupt FLDS is building compounds in Eldorado, Texas (YFZ Ranch), and Westcliffe, Colorado.

The FLDS bilks Arizona taxpayers out of 25-30 million a year, but McCain doesn't mind because ALL POLYGAMISTS VOTE REPUBLICAN.

You won't believe this video clip...

http://www.bankingonheaven.com

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as far as I'm concerned, enough said
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Posted by: jstepp590 on Sep 8, 2008 8:56 AM   
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I believe this dichotomy says it all for me.

She is fanatically pro life, even in cases of rape and incest. In this scenario (her personal beliefs), that life is God's will and that fetus has a right to life. Therefore, when an underage mother decides to have a child instead of an abortion she agrees with them absolutely and see's that mother as following God.

If this is her position, why did she cut the domestic programs in Alaska that gave those same underage mothers a place to go and live for 18 months while they are getting their feet under them and retrained for the workforce? I mean, if they are doing God's will by having these children why would she use her power as governor to pull the rug out from under them? She should have used her power to bend over backwards to help them but she didn't. I could see if there was some kind of budget crunch but Alaska has very full coffers due to oil money and Washington money.

This alone tells me that she's full of it. If she becomes president, which is very possible considering McBush's age and health, and starts spouting that crap at me I'm going to knock her bitch ass out.

I agree we need more women in political power as women generally have different priorities than men. Women, generally, will be more concerned with our families and making sure that everyone is taken care of as best they can. Obviously, this woman doesn't have a labia but testicles instead. She is the wrong woman for the job, period.

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» RE: as far as I'm concerned, enough said Posted by: thinks4herself2008
Why worry about the environment when
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Posted by: bettyn on Sep 8, 2008 9:06 AM   
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the RAPTURE is coming! Didn't James Watt, an AOG member himself say that, too when he was Interior Secretary under Reagan?

AOGer's are one weirdass bunch. Knew a few when I was younger. Very strange folks.

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evaneis
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Posted by: evaneis on Sep 8, 2008 9:18 AM   
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You're both wrong. The democrats keep WINNING in spite of their poor organization and the corporate, republican-light DLC. The problem is the republicans are stealing the elections through electronic voting machines, optical scan counters, caging lists, etc...Read about it on Bradblog.com and check out Mark Crispin Miller. The democrats will keep losing, and we will remain a fascist country, until they get rid of the machines and we have hand counted paper ballots.

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joe the shrink
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Posted by: jbusey on Sep 8, 2008 9:38 AM   
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Wow, with all the attacks on Palin it would seem like the left wing is running scared. For all her "problems," Palin is still more qualified than Obama. As for McCain and Biden, they're a sorry wash.

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» RE: joe the shrink Posted by: BreeMass
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» RE: joe the shrink Posted by: thinks4herself2008
NOW WHAT DO WE DO? HOUND THE POLITICIANS
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 8, 2008 9:56 AM   
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I e-mailed my NJ Senator Frank Lautenberg and asked if there was a process in place for an thorough investigation of Sarah Palin, Stating that I had serious concerns about her competency and mental stability. I don't think we should just all comiserate. We've done that for 8 years. It's possible to prevent this, but if she's elected, its' too late. Let's hound the politicians, it can't hurt. ANNA

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EVERYBODY MUST SEE THIS!!!
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Posted by: BreeMass on Sep 8, 2008 10:00 AM   
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Daily Show

If nothing else, it shows that even Karl Rove can't actually argue that Sarah Palin is anything more than a crass political choice and she certainly isn't qualified to lead the country...

Spread it far and wide, peeps, we have lots of work to do getting the message out...

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Some good books on religion
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Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Sep 8, 2008 10:18 AM   
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Religion is caused by any one or more of about half a dozen mental illnesses.
The truth about religion can be found in these books:

"The Neuropsychological bases of god beliefs" Dr. Michael A. Persinger MD,
psychiatrist 1987 "Religious people are just like my temporal lobe patients"

"The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bi-Cameral Mind" Julian
Jaynes Professor, Harvard University 1976 "Religious people are just like
schizophrenic patients"

"The Psychiatric Interview in Clinical Practice" Roger A. MacKinnon, M.D.,
Robert Michels, M.D. W. B. Saunders Co. 1971 "Religiosity is a common
symptom [of] schizophrenic patients"

"The God delusion" by Richard Dawkins. "Religion is caused by a kind of
computer virus that infects the living computer, the human brain."

"The Science of Good and Evil" by Michael Shermer, 2004 "Morality and Ethics
are now in the jurisdiction of Science and greatly improved thereby."

Many books in the new science called "Sociobiology": Morals and ethics are
instinctive and they evolved.

"God: The Failed Hypothesis" by Victor Stenger. Scientific proof that god does
not exist.

"The God Part of the Brain" by Matthew Alper 1996. "The USA is anomolusly
religious because many early founder groups were religiously insane and fleeing
prosecution in Europe. Religion is a genetic disorder."

"The Accidental Mind" by David J. Linden, 2007 Belknap Press of Harvard
University Press. Religion is caused by the extreme klugeyness of the "designed"
by evolution brain. In particular, the narrative creation system cannot be turned
off. It generates false narratives that are believed by the generating person. This is
seen in experiments done in the laboratory. This book has the best explanation of
resistance to evolution: "There has also been an assumption that if one accepts the
idea that life developed without divine intervention, it necessarily follows that all
aspects of religious thought must be rejected. Those who take this line of
argument to extremes argue that when religious thought is rejected moral and
social codes will degenerate and "the law of the jungle" will be all that is left. It is
imagined by religious fundamentalists that those who do not share their particular
religious faith are incapable of leading moral lives." These suppositions are not
true many times over. Linden later mentions that the creationists [intelligent
design advocates] are exactly 180 degrees wrong rather than just a little wrong.
Being exactly wrong, they are unable to unlearn their error. See Sociobiology or
Sciobio.

"Scientists Confront Intelligent Design and Creationism" edited by Petto &
Godfrey, 2007. The ID and creationist crowd are trying to do away with science.
They see science as a "godless religion." Science is a process, not a religion.

"Manufacturing Belief" by Lewis Wolpert
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2007/05/15/lewis_wolpert/

"The End of Faith" and "Letter to a Christian Nation" by Sam Harris

"Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon", by Daniel Dennett
Let's do scientific research on religion and find out what causes it.

"Origins of the Modern Mind" by Merlin Donald 1991 "So what did you expect
from a brain that is based on the Chimpanzee brain?

"Atheism, A Case Against God" by George Smith

"God is not Great; how religion poisons everything" by Christopher Hitchens, 2007

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» Please... Posted by: BreeMass
» RE: Please... Posted by: daniel1982
NONE OF THIS IS WORKING
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 8, 2008 10:39 AM   
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The blogging, complaining, criticism, etc. John McCain is gaining big time in the polls. I'm beginning to think that we've been given something to keep us busy while the process goes on without us. The original atention to Sarah was understandable. That should be over. There is nothing concrete that tells us that Obama and Biden are putting up a fight. Perhaps I'm missing something. All talk and no fight. Any ideas? ANNA

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» Last night on Fox News... Posted by: BreeMass
Religion is a scam
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Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Sep 8, 2008 10:39 AM   
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As a sophomore undergraduate student in Physics, your homework in Probability
and Statistics class may include figuring out when the second coming would be
required, assuming that the bible was 100% true in the year zero. That is, when
would the bible be down to 50% true? The popular and professors' answer in
1965 was the year 500. The true answer: A friend of mine was born and raised in
Budapest, Hungary. As an adult, he came here and stayed. After 25 years, he
visited his home town of Budapest. He was unable to communicate with his high
school classmates because the Hungarian language had changed so much. The
correct answer is less than 25 years. The first gospel was not written down until
50 years after the alleged events and then in a different language. The people who
told the story were at about the same level of civilization as "wild Indians", I mean
Native Americans before Columbus got here. We have all played or seen played
the game called "Telephone" in which a story is passed down a line of re-tellers.
By the Sixth re-telling, the story has no resemblance to the original. The gospel
story had to have been re-told at least 6 times before it was mis-translated the first
time. [Note that whoever wrote it down the first time was free to write whatever
he wanted to. The storytellers were illiterate and unable to check his written text
by reading it. Besides that, he wrote in Greek rather than Aramaic.] Conclusion:
There is no truth anywhere in the bible, and there never was. There is no way to
know what "jesus" or "mohammed" or any other such character actually said or
did.

ALL of the jurisdictions that were formerly in the jurisdiction of religion have
been taken over by Science. There is no longer a need to debate the issue.
Religion is an unfortunate side effect of having evolved from a chimpanzee-like
animal in a very brief 6 or 7 million years. "God" will not save us from the
consequences of global warming or an asteroid impact or a tornado because there
is no such critter as "god.". Ethics and morality are instinctive, not derived from
religion. Female instinct has greater force in morality than male instinct because
the female is in command of the sexual encounter. Look up "Sociobiology". The
origin of the Universe is the subject of Cosmology which is part of astronomy
which is part of the science of physics.
Religion is a SCAM. ANY religion, there are 10,000 to choose from at any one
time. People keep inventing new religions [for the benefit of the "prophet," of
course] and forgetting other religions. ALL preachers, priests, imams, rabbis,
iatolas, etc. belong in jail for "grand theft, bunko type".

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» Age of reasoning! Posted by: donl51
A must see video!
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Posted by: thinkverybig on Sep 8, 2008 11:48 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM58nqX1ehE

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One of the greatest Community Organizers
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Posted by: Stephen R on Sep 8, 2008 11:47 AM   
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Watching Palin mock Obama and his Community Organizing efforts have left a very sour taste in my mouth. I think it is appropriate to remind ourselves that Martin Luther King, Jr. was one of the greatest Community Organizers in the history of our country. Palin's attempt at discrediting Obama for his organizing people is also an insult to MLK and all the people that helped fight for civil rights.

I must also say that if it were not for Community Organizers this country would still belong to the British. So Palin says she is for the people, sounds like Palin is mocking this countries very existence.

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ba
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Posted by: mnstra on Sep 8, 2008 11:48 AM   
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the more that these blogs talk about the Republicans, what they say what they they do; the more product identification you give them. Dont you know what you are doing? putting everything Palin says and does out there just garners more votes for her and the other/
candidate!!!!!!!!
What are you doing?
Is alter net a disguised Right wing blog masquerading as a progressive.? Sneaky
i don't read articles that describe in detail what theses moronic candidates say or do, or stand for. Isn't it obvious who and what they are? Talk about Nader. Talk about Obama, anything but the Republicans. Yuk.

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worst of all
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Posted by: gzuckier on Sep 8, 2008 12:39 PM   
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she seems to actually believe her own bs. i'm sure if you were her close friend and asked her about the bridge to nowhere, she'd level with you and provide you with a great explanation why, even though she supported it until it was a dead horse, she was in fact doing so in order to cut government pork.

i don't mean to malign christians, i personally know many who actually do agonize about what would jesus do, and what is the moral/ethical thing to do and the world is a better place because of them; but of course there are also those folks who think just because they are forgiven their sins because of their faith, they don't have to strain their little brains about what the god of the bible would actually prefer them to do in any moral or ethical choice.

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Palin....frightening
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Posted by: Michel on Sep 8, 2008 1:05 PM   
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Palin is a frightening woman with backwards beliefs. We all need to remember though...the issues are the important thing--THAT is what we have to focus on. Biden will take her apart on the issues in the debate-even if she has been schooled. It worries me that the liberal blogs have gotten quite a bit of bad press in the MSM--focusing only on petty comments....could this be part of the jump in the polls?? Could it be possible that the GOP banked on this happening??? Which would then give them the advantage...?

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progress
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Posted by: Wildman on Sep 8, 2008 1:14 PM   
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It looks to me like the McCain-Palin ticket would bring both the christian right and the nation as a whole into the twentieth century. While that would be a step backward for the nation as a whole, it is a major leap forward for the christian right. It may be complete hypocrisy for “Focus on the Family” to say it is OK for Ms. Palin to put her career ahead of her family for the next few months or years, but at least they will have a hard time condemning other woman who put career front and center in the future.

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a mccain administration would be a tragedy if he does outlive his term...
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Posted by: Annapurna1 on Sep 8, 2008 1:17 PM   
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if he doesnt..then sarah palin will turn the country into an effective christian taliban state...

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Real "Change" Belongs to Obama/Biden
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Posted by: carolann on Sep 8, 2008 1:37 PM   
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The Republicans have no dignity, have they? They have stolen "change" to be their own, yet McCain has supported Bush 90% of the time during the last 8 years. And Palin makes Bush look like a liberal! McCain/Palin is not "more of the same." They are "worst than the same." Please America. Stand up and vote for real change. We cannot afford another eight years of irresponsible actions and ignorant policies.

Some say: "steal with pride." I say: "Shame on McCain. Find your own message and ensure it reflects who you are and what you intend to do for this country in desperate need." So far, you have told us nothing other than the fact that you can recognize a "good looking woman." Get with it, McCain.

Take responsibility for using this manipulative, ignorant, devious Palin woman for her skirt. Take responsibility for putting her a heartbeat away from leading this nation and hang your head in shame. Take responsibility and create some real policies that will get us out of the mess we are in...the mess you helped create, along with you buddy, George Bush. There is no denying it: You ARE Bush...just a different-looking version.

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America
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Posted by: JohnJlws on Sep 8, 2008 1:50 PM   
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I only thought I couldn't possibly become more disappointed in the direction of our country than under a Bush Administration, but a McCain/Palin Administration will immediately elevate this sense of disappointment to an unequaled level.

I am curious about one thing, though. Why is it we "must" teach the two (evolution, a science; and creationism, a coloring book) together because "our children should decide," but in a matter of life and death we can only teach "don't play with Johnny's wee-wee or Mary's woo-woo" and not teach the rest of the theory "unless you have a rubber?"

Please note I wrote "wee-wee" and "woo-woo," so our highly Christian friends supporting the Iraq war, Darfur, world hunger and disease, and other true obscenities can read it and not be too goddamned offended.

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I never thought I'd be defending this woman, but...
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Posted by: BeckyD on Sep 8, 2008 4:06 AM   
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This - "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she told them. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

- is a misquote. The full quote from the NYT article you drew this information from reads thusly:

She also told the group that her eldest child, Track, would soon be deployed by the Army to Iraq, and that they should pray “that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.” (emphasis added)

In other words, she's doing what many serious Christians do - praying that what our leaders are doing is in accordance with God's will, praying that God's plan will be revealed and followed. NOT saying that the war in Iraq is de facto God's will.

You have several good anti-Palin points here - no need to manipulate quotes to make them say what you want to score more.

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Country First
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Posted by: JSquercia on Sep 8, 2008 2:20 PM   
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I can only say that the fact that McCain felt that rather than pick Joe Lieberman his OWN choice he completely caved in to the Evangelicals and took Palin as his VP shows just how much of a maverick and how much he places country first.

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Ex- Beauty Queen, Ex governor,Wannabe VP or Whore of Babylon
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 8, 2008 2:51 PM   
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Wow!1 Could McCain have made a bigger goof? Sure he could have asked Hillary to be VP instead. No that's not right either. Neither are Ms palin's views about just about everything. I think her mind was deep froze in Alaska.

She's just the kind of Do-gooder-pollyanna-bimbo we need in the Nation's second top office. Her idea of protecting the wildlife is getting 22 mil out of the Gov't and throw a wolf shooting party,drinks and all.

Nuclear Power??? Has she been swimming in the Bering Straights too long? Anyone with a 9th grade science education knows we've never had enough research and development on Nuclear power to declare it safe in any form,and she thinks it's better than solar or wind?

It's OK for her kid to be pregnant but not yours!??!? I see her preaching 'abstinance' to her daughter did alot of good. But then again,women are scarce in Alaska and boosting the population with her daughter must seem like a divine assignment to her. That might float well in Alaska but down in the lower 48
she'd be a stuffed shirt-hypocritical-bitch.

Look McCain needed someone to take the heat away from him but seriously....going for the lonely-guy-too horney to see straight vote might not be the best crowd to slum for. You
know all those dudes will be lining up at the polls,pun definatly intended,wet dreaming their way into some exotic fantasy about watching a jizz fountain blasting out her face
and becoming 'god's warriors' for Democracy!!!
A democracy,by the way,that we DON'T have. Why?
Because folks like her pander to the rich,bend over gladly to get into office,stay that way and then hope history will remember them as making the great sacrifice...of your kids.

We,as a people,are so much better than this.
We need to protect the other living things on this rock that don't have a voice. Not fly over them and blast them to kingdom come. We
need,and deserve renewable energy not renewable poisoning with nuclear power. We need
our children taught responsible actions and the real truth told about procreation and sex.
We need someone that truly gives a damn about poor children's healthcare,education,and the cleaness of our air,water and growing soils.
The last thing we need is a woman that sets the women's movement back a thousand years by thinking she broke the 'glass ceiling' by getting on top of it in a mini-skirt with no underware on.

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Sarah, a goddess of christian hypocrisy
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Posted by: stev90 on Sep 8, 2008 3:09 PM   
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What's the big deal about Sarah Palin shooting moose?

The christian god allows for the killing of people especially those pesky non-believers.

What's a little moose hunting with her NRA approved AK-47?

At least, she can find other uses for her gun, other than using it as a dildo, when her husband is away, with that all important snowmobiling trip.

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Article sounds more like propoganda.
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Posted by: hankhawk on Sep 8, 2008 3:24 PM   
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Let's look as some of the items with another
view.



1. Despite problems at home, Sarah Palin does not believe in giving teenagers information about sex.
The United States has some of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in the industrialized world, and 1 in 4 American teen girls has an STI.

WOULD THEY HAVE THIS PROBLEM IF THEY ABSTAINED TOTALLY?

Everything on Tv., in Hollywood, teen magazines, Rap songs, etc. – it’s all about “doing what comes naturally.” – everybody else is doing it...if it feels good, do it...etc. Youngsters should
be hard-pushed into “not having sex because they’re too immature to know the true
meaning of sex – that sex isn’t love, even if the guy says so to the girl, and oral sex is
OK because Pres. Clinton says it was no big deal with a young Monica – how can we expect
our youngsters to have a clear cut understanding that sex and get a youngster into deep trouble early in life.



2. Sarah Palin believes the U.S. Army is on a mission from God.
"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she told them. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING A STRONGLY SPIRITUAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING EVIL LEADERS. Stalin and Hitler were both practitioners of Evil Religions. Hitler directly as an adherent to Satanism, regardless of what superfluous eloquence and ignorance it was disguised as. Stalin as an adherent to Marxism , a quasi anti-religion hatched by Satanic dupes at the inspiration of their personal demons.



3. Sarah Palin believes in punishing rape victims.
She has not made any statements yet about whether she believes a 10-year-old who was raped by her father would be able to actually raise the child once it was born. Perhaps Palin doesn't care.

I’M NOT SURE A 10 YR OLD WOULD BE ABLE TO DELIVER WITHOUT SERIOUSLY
THREATENING HER LIFE, SO THAT’S OPEN TO MORE QUESTION.

Also, if our legal system was not so
easy on rapists, and society took rape more seriously, how about putting rapists away for a minimum of 15-20 years and keep them out of society and protect our women from rapists who
don’t have any consideration of a woman’s body?

6. Sarah Palin believes creationism should be taught in schools.

"Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."
Not when those "theories" are being presented as valid alternatives to a set of principles that most scientists have ascribed to for more than a century. THIS IS A BLATANT LIE!

Here’s a partial list of Creationists of respected scientists :
Francis Bacon, Robert Boyle, Michael Faraday, Sir John A Fleming, James Joule, Johannas
Kepler, Joseph Kepler, Luis Pateur, – they were the leaders in geology, chemistry,
anatomy, thermokinetics, entomology, magnetics, electronics, astronomy, thermodynamics,
oceanography,genetics, natural history, fluid mechanics, pathology, and the list can go
on and on.

So let’s be honest, evolution is a theory that has many, many inconsistencies and findings
that can't be proved.

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» Hitler Was A Catholic Posted by: cherylholmes
Palin, Head of Whackjobs For Jesus
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Posted by: cherylholmes on Sep 8, 2008 3:52 PM   
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"Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community
organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor."

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/09/lisanova.html

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Sarah Palin's MOST distressing belief
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Posted by: Crazy H on Sep 8, 2008 4:05 PM   
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... is that she is in any way qualified to be the Leader of (what's left of) the Free World.

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Palin: complete ignoramus about foreign policy
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Posted by: Garvagh on Sep 8, 2008 4:22 PM   
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God help us, if Palin actually believes the Supreme Being endorsed the idiotic wrecking of the secular power structure in Iraq, so it could be replaced by a Shiite controlled quasi-semi-democracy. Millions of innocent people driven into exile, vicious destruction of historic monuments, museums and libraries. But hundreds of billions into the pockets of the private contractors. Hooray!

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Gullible Twits
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Posted by: chimp722 on Sep 8, 2008 5:15 PM   
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It really is amazing how gullible people are with the liberal media. Someone simply distorts a quote or statement and then uses it as indisputable proof that Palin wants to ruin America and suddenly everyone is on board. I'm not trying to be rude im just saying please make a more educated decision. I dont care who you vote for as long as you have a good reason and not be a self proclaimed watchdog website said Sarah Palin wants to burn your children at the stake for practicing witch craft.

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» The "liberal media" ? Posted by: maxpayne
» What liberal media..max? Posted by: donl51
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Posted by: chimp722 on Sep 8, 2008 5:22 PM   
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Sorry i got more...
Im just saying that if i came online and wrote an article stating that Obama is a former black panther and a member of the nation of islam and also hates America. Then i followed it by stating these "facts" as proof he supports a radical preacher who says "God Damn America", doesnt put his hand on his heart during the pledge, doesnt where a flag lapel, and belongs to an all black parish. Would you beleive me?

Be fair minded

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» Excuse me but... Posted by: donl51
The scariest thing about Sarah Palin is...
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Posted by: IntnsRed on Sep 8, 2008 5:48 PM   
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...that some people have seen her before!

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It blows my mind...
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Posted by: localhost008 on Sep 8, 2008 6:05 PM   
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I checked the polls on ABCnews.com and McCain is 1% behind Obama with 46% approval.

People like the direction the US is going for the last 8 years? Wow. Just... WOW! I fear Canada won't be far enough really soon. Hunker down for another Great Depression folks. It'll be the Great-est Depression if the Neocons get their way.

I'm not angry with Americans. I'm just... disappointed.

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Sarah Palin is a Christian Terrorist
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Posted by: EJW on Sep 8, 2008 6:29 PM   
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It's time we called a spade a spade.

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Tired of misinformation
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Posted by: samsonbull on Sep 8, 2008 7:07 PM   
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Number 3 is pretty bogus at worst or a weak argument at best (3. Sarah Palin believes in punishing rape victims.)

Ask yourself this: What is the likelihood of a rape victim becoming pregnant? Very...very slim. Why is this lame logic argument number 3?

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What did Obama say?
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Posted by: hankhawk on Sep 8, 2008 7:34 PM   
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I. O-O-O-P-S! Senator Barack Obama inadvertently slipped as he announced that he was a Muslim!

NEWS BRIEF: "Oops! Obama says 'my Muslim faith' ", Chicago Sun Times, September 8, 2008

"A verbal slip by Barack Obama, in which he made a reference to 'my Muslim faith', unleashed a barrage of Internet attacks Sunday. The Democratic presidential candidate appeared on ABC's 'This Week' with George Stephanopoulos, which aired Sunday morning."

Throughout his presidential campaign, Senator Barack Hussein Obama has sought to portray himself as a devout Christian and, more specifically, to deny that he was, or is, a Muslim. You see, after America fought a "War On Terror" against Muslims for seven years against a guy by the name of Osama and another guy named Hussein, Senator Barack Hussein Obama knew that any further tainting of his candidacy by an accusation that he was Muslim could be the sound of political death.

Therefore, Obama and his key supporters, backed by a sympathetic Mass Media, have been careful to portray him as a Christian on the one hand, while vehemently denying that he was a Muslim, on the other hand. This slip of the tongue will be rightly called a "Freudian slip" and will haunt him for quite a while. Please be prepared for the McCain campaign to pick this quote up quickly and devote huge budget dollars to spreading the word far and wide.



"Obama was -- ironically -- addressing the false rumors that he is Muslim. He suggested that Republican rival John McCain was behind them, according to ABC News. Obama was reminded that McCain denied spreading the rumors. 'You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith', Obama said, before being corrected by Stephanopoulos."

I wonder how long it would have taken Obama to realize that he had just declared his religious faith to be Muslim had Stephanopoulos not pointed it out? Would he have gone through the entire interview process without realizing what he had just said? Had this been the case, he doubtless would have been informed by his staff of the error the second the interview was completed.

How quickly did the response get started?

"The quote became a magnet for comments on the YouTube.com video site and by bloggers as the day went on. Some seized on it as confirmation of their suspicions and some ridiculed it as a gaffe."

Likely, Obama's misstatement will not be believed by anyone already sold on his candidacy, but it might convince some skeptics who were sitting on the fence prior to this statement. Muslims consider him to be one of them because his father was a Muslim from Kenya, and because he attended a Muslim school in Indonesia.

This statement may prove to be one of the most explosive in a campaign designed to be unique!

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» RE: What did Obama say? Posted by: badkitty
Ooopps, the REAL Baby Daddy Speaks?
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Posted by: cherylholmes on Sep 8, 2008 8:10 PM   
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How are they going to explain this one? This whitie party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VELIG92GDXw

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derek7up
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Posted by: derek7up on Sep 8, 2008 8:15 PM   
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Jesus was a community organizer? I've seen that on a lot of blogs and have to laugh every time. So Jesus traveled around doing what Barack did in Chicago? Well, Christ did so many wonderful things that they finally crucified him to thank him for his service. Sorry...no correlation.

If you want a biblical comparison...Jesus was crucified because he spoke the truth and wasn't afraid to speak up to the rulers. Sarah Palin is speaking for a whole segment of the USA (you'll find out in November how many there are of us) and the press and God-hating bloggers are going to do their best to crucify her. She WILL prevail so get ready to endure 8 more years of no attacks on American soil. Oh my God!

I love it when liberals whine....

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» Hitler Was A Christian Too! Posted by: cherylholmes
» Yes dickhead Posted by: foreverhope
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» Such the fool!! Posted by: donl51
An easy to understand book for you
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Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Sep 8, 2008 8:28 PM   
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"Power to Save the World; The Truth About Nuclear Energy" by
Gwyneth Cravens, 2007 Finally a truthful book about nuclear
power.

Page 13 has a chart of greenhouse gas emissions from electricity
production. Nuclear power produces less greenhouse gas [CO2]
than any other source, including coal, natural gas, hydro, solar and
wind. Building wind turbines and towers also involve industrial
processes such as concrete and steel making. Wind turbines
produce a total of 58 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour. Nuclear
power plants produce a total of 30 grams of CO2 per kilowatt
hour, the lowest. Coal plants produce the most, between 966 and
1306 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour. Solar power produces
between 100 and 280 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour. Hydro
power produces 240 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour. Natural gas
produces between 439 and 688 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour.
Remember the total is the sum of direct emissions from burning fuel
and indirect emissions from the life cycle, which means the
industrial processes required to build it. Again, nuclear comes in
the lowest. Nuclear would produce even less CO2 per kilowatt
hour if the safety were lowered to the same level as other sources
of electricity. Switching from coal to nuclear is a 97% reduction in
electricity's 40% of our CO2 output.

Page 15: The Sierra Club used to favor nuclear power over hydro
but switched for political reasons.

Page 17: Coal kills 24000 Americans and 400000 Chinese every
year. Nuclear has killed ZERO Americans total. Hydro has
killed 1000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Chinese.

Page 35: Your golf clubs may contain depleted uranium [DU].
Don't worry, and don't confuse DU with spent fuel. DU is what is
removed from the uranium to make it enriched in U235. DU is
pure U238. U238 has such a long half life that it is almost not
radioactive. DU is safe to handle, but don't eat it because it is a
chemical poison. Heavy metals in general are poisons, radioactive
or not. DU has other uses that depend on its high density.

Page 50: Power reactors make Plutonium 240 [Pu240]. Pu240 is
useless for making bombs. Plutonium bombs require Pu239.
Pu239 is made in reactors that are specialized for making Pu239.
Governments own Pu239 makers, not power companies.

Page 60: 0.0007 pounds of uranium enriched to 4% without
recycling produces as much energy as 149 gallons of oil or 157
gallons of regular gasoline or 17000 cubic feet of natural gas or
1780 pounds of coal.

Page 70: Natural background radiation where the author happens
to be at the time is higher than what people living at Chernobyl are
getting. The US national average background radiation is 360
millirems/year.

Page 71: The natural background radiation in northeastern
Washington state is 1700 millirem/year.
The natural background radiation on the Zuni uplift is 500 to 700
millirem/year.
The natural background radiation in New Mexico is greater than the
calculated dose from the Three Mile Island meltdown, if you were
next to the reactor.
A chest x-ray gives you 10 millirem.

======book continues========

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» Try this book! Posted by: donl51
Lilly
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Posted by: Lilly on Sep 8, 2008 9:50 PM   
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I keep remembering that when LBJ took over the White House after JFK was killed, somebody in the Washington Post wrote that, after Jackie Kennedy's elegant French cuisine, state dinners would probably now feature Ranch-House Beans and Kool-Aid. What would a President Palin serve? My fantasy is, roadkill.

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Stale one liners won't go far
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Posted by: foreverhope on Sep 8, 2008 10:19 PM   
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Chicken shit cheap shots at campaign rallies, let alone the same canned speech over and over and over.....while she hides from the media, till they can pay her proper deference, is going to get old fast, and really, the repugs have no clue what they will do after this. She went to five colleges over six years? Obama is right to keep on message and give Sarah the importance she deserves, he is calling them and her on their lies and fabrications, but with a sense of humor, neither defensive nor offensive. Perfect. Obama is one smart fella, that's why I keep sending him small donations. Excellent interview on Olbermann tonight. Obama is like a long cool glass of water.

LOL!

"CHANGE IS COMING! CHANGE IS COMING! CHANGE IS COMING!"

~John McCain after acting classes~ and he is at least right about that, just not the change he is thinking of~

P.S. I know this is awful to say about anyone but every time I see Cindy McCain I think she looks the sort of woman Hitler would be very attracted to.

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#7 and #8 are actually good.
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Posted by: daniel1982 on Sep 8, 2008 11:45 PM   
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Drilling for Oil is a good thing given that there is no substitute for oil and that there will not be a substitute for oil in the next few decades . Domestic drilling might not impact gas prices a whole lot but it a) provides tons of high paying jobs b) generates a huge amount of tax revenue for state and federal government via gas pump levies, revenue sharing, public-private partnerships and corporate taxation (Exxon paid around $42 billion in taxes last year) and c) every dollar made from selling locally drilled oil (either in US or on world markets) is a dollar that does not go to Saudi Arabia or Venezuela.

Regarding nuclear power: The left's opposition to it is simply insane. There's just no other way to phrase it. You want reduction in greenhouse gases, but you don't want to use the absolute best energy generation method to accomplish this. What is it that you want exactly?

Wind power, under very optimistic projections and a huge government investment, might account for 20% of all US power generation by 2030 (currently it is a scant 1%). The bulk of the remaining 80% that will power your electric cars, will be provided by coal and/or nuclear. Keep up your insane opposition to nuclear and it will only be pollution and carbon spewing coal power, just as it was in the last 50 years. Think about how much less CO2 would have been in the atmosphere if we replaced most coal plants with nuclear power 30-40 years ago. Good job hippies.

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Why???
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Posted by: frank r on Sep 9, 2008 8:18 AM   
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Why would you support this woman after doing even a little research. Take your republican blinders off and vote for the person who is best equipped to lead our nation.

Top 10 Reasons Why Sarah Palin is Unfit to Lead Our Nation

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Eagleeye
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Posted by: eagleeye on Sep 9, 2008 2:42 PM   
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Let's face it. Sarah Palin is America just as Tricky Dick, Dubya, Ronney are American. She is the soccer mom, religious fanatic, warmongering empire builder that the average beer guzzling, TV Fox News, Bill O'Reilly advocate loves. They are what Socrates condemned as mob rule and drank the hemlock rather than rescind his statement. She'll win. Karl Rove had that all figured out long ago. He's been coaching her for months. Americans deserve her. They are in essence Sarah Palin. She is all that the masses stand for. Yes, as Huey Long once said: Fascism will come to America, but it will be called "Americanism".

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LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS
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Posted by: HPipe on Sep 9, 2008 3:42 PM   
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FASCISM

We may have here what may be described as a “kinder-gentler” fascism, but what it is, is what it is. It is our homegrown equivalent to the Islamofascist--Christian Fascism. Sarah Palin is the face of this cultural fascism.

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» Now you're getting it!! Posted by: donl51
Bristol Palin's Black Baby Daddy Will Stop The Palin Momentum
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Posted by: desidid on Sep 10, 2008 5:48 AM   
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Your VP Just Might be a Redneck if ...
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Posted by: DrHipHappy on Sep 10, 2008 7:12 AM   
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She is a fascist fundamentalist who loves to kill animals. She is also proud of her future son-in-law who is a self-proclaimed "F@&king Redneck."

What should really concern progressives is that Palin is a ruthless and racist REDNECK. This really a war between the past and future. In fact, I have written that the rednecks have run American for too long. Every president since Carter has been a redneck. This is most true of Clinton and Bush II.

Read all about this and other topics at The HipHappy Times

The rednecks are the foot soldiers of the Culture war. For good overview of redneck culture watch the old movie "Deliverance." You will see lots of Palin people in that movie.

Friends don't let friends vote for rednecks!!

Join other sane and compassionate people who are against being force-fed this moldy Moose Stew. See The HipHappy Times

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Palin vs. Wolves
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Posted by: LDA on Sep 10, 2008 12:42 PM   
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How come you self-proclaimed "progressives" are not taking seriously Gov. Palin's appalling record with respect to wildlife in her home state. You reduce it to the level of a joke with cutesy references to her ability to field dress a caribou and her love of mooseburgers, etc. This woman is personally responsible for expanding Alaska's abominable extermination campaign against wolves (involving airborne chasing, shooting and trapping) which is extremely cruel and makes little ecological sense. Even if Sarah Palin were the living re-incarnation of Mother Teresa, this fact alone should disqualify her among "progressives" for high public office. Is this facet of her political legacy simply too trivial for the cosmopolitan sophisticates who write for alternet to even take note of? If yes, the far-left is apparently as morality-challenged as any trailer trash redneck.

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ruhigh?
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Posted by: udontspeak4me on Sep 12, 2008 2:53 AM   
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It is exactly this kind of ridiculous ,irresposible blogging that that is mistaken for journalism that is what is wrong with this elections left wings saturation of falsehoods that the less informed take for fact.
Sarah palin is not against teach her children about sex education she nor I want the shcools teaching it - that is my job.
this Bridge to Nowhere she did change her mind after she found out how much it would cost Obama voted for it and Congress gave her descression to use the money as she saw fit and she used it for other projects and Ak under her Gov has a huge surplus
She did not say the War was Gods will she said Let us DO Gods will **Way to distort the facts in fact eveything you posted is a distortion.

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JQUIN
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Posted by: tdee on Sep 13, 2008 7:27 PM   
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PALLIN'S ACCEPTANCE AS THE POSTER GIRL FOR THE REPUBS IS REFLECTIVE OF THE SORRY STATE OF THE AMERICAN VOTER. TO ENTERTAIN VOTING FOR HER OR MCCAIN IS AN ENDORSEMENT OF THE BUSH YEARS HAT HAVE BEN PROVEN REPEATEDLY ARE THE MOST DAMAGING IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

1. THE UNNECESSARY WAR THAT IS MURDERING AND CRIPPLING OUR YOUNG MILITARY, CONTINUES UNABATED AND UNSTOPPABLE.
2. THE ECONOMY THAT REFLECTS A TRUE DOMINO PRINCIPLE. THE PRICE OF FUEL AND HEATING OIL SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL AND WRECKING EVERY ASPECT OF OUR ECONOMY WHILE THE OLIGARCHY PROFITS INDECENTLY AND IMMORALLY FROM THE MISFORTUNES OF THE MIDDLE AND LOWER CLASSES.
3. THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEMS THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO RANK 37TH OR SO IN THE WORLD AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY OF TOO MANY OF OUR POPULACE ESPECIALLY THE AGED AND INFANT GROUPS. THE INHERITANCE OF THE BUSH YEARS CANNOT BE VIEWED IN ANY OTHER LIGHT EXCEPT AS DESTRUCTIVE OF THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE.
4. THE ASSAULT ON OUR MEDIA WHICH IS THE BEACON OF OUR DEMOCRACY BY PROVIDING THE CITIZENRY THE TRUTHS WITH WHICH THE VOTER CAN MAKE INTELLIGENT AND INFORMED CHOICES IN THEIR SELECTION OF LEADERSHIP.

GIVEN THE SAD STATE OUR COUNTRY FINDS ITSELF IN, WHO WOULD WANT TO GRANT THESE SAME PEOPE AN EXTENTION TO DO FURTHER DAMAGE.

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Objective Consideration
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Posted by: centrist2008 on Sep 14, 2008 2:44 AM   
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(1) It is unfair to not mention that there are at least 3 Bush Doctrines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine):
1 - Preemptive Strike
2 - Unilateralism
3 - Treatment of Detainees (as Enemy Combatants)
Rightly or wrongly, a bookish knowledge of these is not a requirement. If that was the case and the President had listened to our book-keepers, the US would have withdrawn after the 2006 mid-term elections and lost the Iraq War - a war that Biden voted for. Instead, our "dumb" and "gut-driven" President ignored the many nay-sayers, including the Joint Chiefs of Staff (WPOST), opened a back-channel inside the Pentagon and came up with the Surge Solution - a solution that even Obama has now reluctantly acknowledged as having 'succeeded beyond the wildest expectations'. And in so doing, our "dumb" and "gut-driven" President created monumental doctrines, some far greater in importance than, say, President Clinton's.

(2) It is unfair to not quote that the Alaska National Guard (http://www.akguard.com/), under the leadership of Governor Palin, held joint border exercises with its Russian counter-part over the course of the last 2 years. Please also quote her follow-up response, something like: 'It brings up the neighbor's perspective that we live in a small world; that Russia is not far removed, but right next door.'

(3) It is unfair to question Governor Palin ability to handle her job and her family while also praising Biden's commitment to riding the train for 2+ hours everyday and returning to work soon after his wife's fatal accident (Obama thus praised him in their first introduction).

(4) It is unfair to question Governor Palin about her teenage daughter's pregnancy without also not questioning Obama about his teenage mother's pregnancy when she had him at 18 (Obama).

(5) It is unfair to argue that Governor Palin by putting her family on the convention stage cannot rightly protect it from the media, when the same protection is extended to Obama's 2 daughters.

(6) It is unfair to accuse Governor Palin of charging her state monies without also emphasizing that she charged less than legally allowed, and much less than her predecessor (WPOST).

(7) It is unfair to make simple per capita funding comparisons between Alaska and Illinois given that Alaska's infra-structure is not as developed, but when developed it will benefit capita in many more other states because of its rich natural resources.

(8) It is unfair to claim that Governor Palin linked Iraq with Sep 11 when she linked it with Islamic Fundamentalists, like so: "...defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans" (ABC).

(9) It is unfair to publish articles belittling Governor Palin's choice for a down-to-earth hair-salon while also keeping mum on Biden's hair-plug (NYT).

(10) It is unfair to not carry a story of equivalent coverage emphasizing that the infamous State Trooper is still employed as a State Trooper even after threatening the family of the sitting Governor, given Union Policies.

(11) It is unfair to not carry a story of equivalent coverage debunking the false claim that Governor Palin banned books from her public library (including popular ones like Harry Potter's).

(12) It is unfair to not present the full quote by Governor Palin wherein she explained her religious belief as a personal matter, and how she believes, like many of us, that "everything happens for a reason" (albeit God's reason).

(13) It is unfair to not carry a story of equivalent coverage outlining the lack of executive government experience of Obama and Biden, and how neither has ever balanced a budget, unlike Governor Palin.

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Very Funny Videos :)
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Posted by: centrist2008 on Sep 14, 2008 3:35 AM   
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Democratic Party War Room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4mKWceq0vY

The Lying King Sarah Palin Parity Voice Over http://copiousdissent.blogspot.com/2008/09/

lying-king-sarah-palin-parity-voice.html

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Small town America's Rebttle
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 14, 2008 3:39 AM   
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Living in a MI town with a Pop of about 10,000- and Neighbor to the Mayor..I Know mayors have little more to do than head council meetings and play figure head at events. Our mayor Works full time for U of M. It is our City Manager who handles the daily In & outs. The Mayor is also constrained from any unilateral decisions by the City council, the Zoning board etc etc.I have great admiration for my Mayor/neighbor..but would not vote for him as Govonor, and esp not VP- He is far too inexpereinced to even handle the state of MI- who Pop is greater than AK's, and with more metro areas and various industries.
As for Drilling , Nuke or any other form of Energy - until We control our Own energy as a Nation, we will never be 'Energy Independent' and will only continue to be held captive by Energy conglomerates and their profit whims.
As For her Sociopathic Religious beliefs/excuses....I doubt seriously she has any concept of what 'almighty ' means. God does not require the assistance of mere mortals in ANY of his plans , designs or missions.When We Were 'Created' we were given intellecual abilities above & beyond the other creatures- Thus we are not only expected to use them to be stewards, but also encouraged to use them to become Better stewards.
Funny how 'Religious ' folks pick & choose when analogies start and end to fit their own small mindedness or goals.Ignorance is not Bliss nor divine.Kind of Like their Predecessors Constantine and the Council when they abbreviated, elimiated and changed so many scrptures (gospels) in the 3rd century
Also 'life' goes well beyond 9 month in utero, it encompasses human and non human life, it includes the environment which sustains life. What these so called "pro lifers" should be more accurately Referred to as is 'Pro Birthers'

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what was rationale of order of items?Apocalyptic expectations,pro dirty water,making victims pay
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Posted by: whealeydj on Sep 14, 2008 5:07 AM   
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this article could have been more effective and shorter if done Letterman style. It might hve been better if shorter like the top 3 reasons some of which have come to light in last week. 3)balancing municipal budget by making CRIME victims pay for their tests and bear their child if pregnant. Completely outrageous.2)Clean water should be sacrificed to benefits development, 1) Religious beliefs are Pentecostal beliefs nurtured by Assembly of God heresy. I think more parallels should be drawn to David Koresh and Warren Jeffs who ran/run compund cults drawn from end time American founded sects which are similar to her hometown Assembly of God cult. This underpins her disdain for environment because drill,mine and pollute crowd who also hold apocalyptic religious expectations truly beleive we are living in end times so poisoning the earth wont matter because the Rapture is just around the corner.

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1.)Creationism...teach both... & 2.)...Choose life
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Posted by: JosephU on Oct 1, 2008 5:05 PM   
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Regarding
2 things in the article:

1.) ... "6. Sarah Palin believes creationism should be taught in schools."
Palin stated,
"Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so
important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of
teaching both.""

Q. What does creation science teach?
A. A world-wide flood ...

Q. What does the Bible teach?
A. A world-wide flood ...

Genesis 7
10 And after the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth. . . .
23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.

See: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis6-9&version=31

Q. "If there really was a world-wide flood, what would the evidence be?
A. Billions of dead things,buried in rock layers, laid down by water,
all over the earth."

Q. What does scientific evidence show?
A. "billions of dead plants and animals buried in rock layers laid down by
water all over the world."
From: The World's a Graveyard (Conclusions)
See:
www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v3/n2/world-graveyard

... The Bible, creationism, and scientific evidence are in agreement...
Let's teach the truth.

And,

2.) ... Palin also opposes abortion

Q. Why would anyone oppose abortion?
What is an abortion?
When is a baby alive?
A . Look for yourself and see:

www.davidmacd.com/catholic/abortion_general.htm

Millions of people have opposed abortion
because of the following advice:

Deuteronomy 30:19

19 This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you
that I have set before you
life and death,
blessings and curses.
Now choose life,
so that you and your children may live

See: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy30:19;

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