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There's No Reason to Be Afraid of Taking on Sarah Palin
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Did she really accuse Hillary Clinton of "whining?" Then she's already told us that she won't mind any challenge -- that she can rise to any question. I want to see her do it. The personal is political, after all. Here are some issues she has to explain: What is her religion and who is her pastor? Is she a Christian Dominionist and how does she feel about the separation of church and state? How does she square her roles as mother and politican? Who is taking care of the kids while she is away, including the baby? If it's the husband, I'm glad. If it's a nanny and always has been, then I want to know how a wealthy woman with a nanny helps women in general -- wealthy women with nannies are nothing new. If she's into "family values," I want to know what they are, and how the nanny views Palin's "family values." If she produced a child at 44, I want to know if she believes in birth control, because birth control is a political issue. I also want to know her views on the government's obligations to the disabled. Do the disabled children of rich people get special treatments that their parents can afford, while the disabled children of poor people get nothing? Who is the boss in her family? If it's her, then I want to know how that squares with Christian notions of patriarchy. If it's the husband, then I want to know his values and beliefs about all the issues that face the nation, and I want to know who will actually be the vice president. I want to see her tax returns. I want to see his tax returns.
About the breastfeeding. Breastfeeding is a political issue because the baby formula companies have promoted baby formula all over the world, much to the detriment of babies. If she's a family values right winger, I would expect her to back those values up by breastfeeding for six months to a year, at least. If she's not breastfeeding, frankly, and she doesn't believe in birth control, then she's a hypocrite. She has to run as a right wing family values soccer mom or she has to run as a woman who has gained freedoms through the efforts of other women. She can't do both.
Is she really a gun-toting moose-killer, or is this a pose? What are her ties to the oil and gas industries -- and I don't mean her beliefs. I want to know who paid her and when and how much. She says she doesn't know what the vice president does, so I want to know what she thinks about Dick Cheney and the unitary executive. I want to know if she understands the Constitution and what the limits of the executive branch are. I want to know if she's ever been abroad, if she has ever written anything about the Iraq war, or if she's just a follower with a pretty smile, who goes along with the big boys in order to get a little something for herself. I want to know how she treats her children, what kind of mom she is, because I want to know about her personal morality. This is a valid issue, because in the last eight years we discovered with George Bush that once a bully, always a bully. I want those kids from her high school to come forward and tell me what she was like back then.
We had years to relate to HIllary Clinton. We saw her through good times and bad. We saw her do things we didn't agree with, and we saw her do things we did agree with. She was an open book in many ways. Sarah Palin accused her of "whining." I didn't agree with Clinton, and I didn't support her, but I never accused her of whining. That "whining" remark is the hallmark of a bitchy and and arrogant point of view -- a characteristic of all conservative women politicians. So, Sarah thinks she can take it. I say we give it to her good.
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Posted by: Obama2008Fan on Sep 1, 2008 1:36 AM
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There is no way of justifying such a grossly unfair redistribution of wealth, just as Sarah Palin can't be considered qualified for standby duty as a "heartbeat away" commander-in-chief.
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PS: Never forget what a "Maverick" is -- a grumpy old man who enjoys pissing people off, both Democrats and Republicans!
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Posted by: LionHeart on Sep 1, 2008 4:54 AM
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She took on the big boys club in Alaska, took on the oil companies and is seen as anti oil by many. Sounds like she's not as afraid to fight as you think most women are!
Women are stronger than you give them credit for.
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» And if women are smarter than you give them credit for, Lionheart, they wilI vote for Obama!
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Posted by: babzter on Sep 1, 2008 6:01 AM
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Don't underestimate this woman. She didn't get where she is by being stupid and nice. Just because she's not qualified doesn't mean she can't play with the big dogs or use her particular talents to manipulate the American public.
If John McCain only wants to be President, to hell with the country, this is a brilliant move, IMO.
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» Perhaps some clarification will help?
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 1, 2008 6:17 AM
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Posted by: ty111 on Sep 1, 2008 6:29 AM
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Why not mail a copy to every reporter in the country. Maybe they will focus on something other than her flag bikini and moose stew.
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» Media Cant Imagine Anything Outside the Box
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Posted by: gazooks on Sep 1, 2008 6:58 AM
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Collectively, we're an undeniably manipulated, stupidly shallow electorate. But a looming vortex of expanding blunder potential lies in this desperately "clever", Rovian move. Just sixty-something days to see how long new shit floats in an American election, to measure our endurance of it's stench and to see if we've yet had our fill. Our capacity to accept the unacceptable has brought us to the brink of a manifest national insanity beyond imagining.
Sarah Palin, as legal successor to a realistically imagined, incapacitated President McInfirmitiesLongerThanYourArm, personifies not only the inanity of our politics, but a security threat to the entire globe.
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Posted by: PaulK on Sep 1, 2008 7:33 AM
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 1, 2008 7:43 AM
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If they think woman will give up their "Protection Mode" just because it is another female invading and destroying their 'den' they are fools!We first & foremost are the fierce defenders of our children.
We are Outraged by her Story about the birth of her 5 th child- her actions (Inactions) constitute Child endangerment!Was that her attempt at performing her own late Term abortion?Why does she feel so free to take on such a monumental/demanding position when she has a newborn with such high needs.Who si going to care for and Raise this Child while she is busy in the VP Office, traveling around the country, overseas????sound like she can drop kids- literally & figuratively.Absolutely Irresponsible to her first Duty!Kids always trump career ambitons- that 's the way REAL mothers have a hard time competing- time consuming and a commitment to their children First!
this is worse than Hillary Knowingly taking her teenage daughter into a region that was "Under sniper fire". Palin endangered the child to give a speech and a Flight and now is willing to hand over the responsiblity to Who..Her Daughter, husband or more likely Nannies.
and if the child is actually her daughters- what does that say about her feelings towards Unweb mothers- what kind of advocate can you be for a situation you are too humilated and shamed by to even acknowledge! Otherwise you only claimed that child for your own political gains via LYING!
I live in a small rural town of 20,000. My mayor, who I helped campaign for Is NOT Qualified to be Gov of this state!What industry and problems does she understand? Fishing & working for Oil....How about knowledge about Mass production...How can she understand the problems in theRust Belt? How can she have any idea how to help solve it- Rely on Mac's CheneyCorp advisors & Investors to handle it still?
If they think they can Use Palin as Lipstick fro their Policy Pigs- they will not be fooling any Women- they ARE insulting Us!
Althoug I did not support Hillary, anyone who did should be Outraged, by this Patronizing choice!
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 1, 2008 7:52 AM
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Honestly the entire political system is in jeopardy and if McCain is elected we are giving away our nation. Thanks, ANNA
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Sep 1, 2008 8:20 AM
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Posted by: becky141 on Sep 1, 2008 8:41 AM
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Republicans stage another election fiasco, like 2000 and 2004. McCain, not their man, "dies". Palin ushers in Theocracy, rule by an elite sect who proclaims "Divine Dominion" to enslave America.
Those familiar with the Theocratic viewpoint will not find this a strange idea. Google JR Rushdoony, read "The Institutes of Biblical Law," the Bible that launched the Christian Nation movement. JR's lackeys turned the churches into political machines to put his kind into every branch of government, local and national.
JR paints the Puritan sadists as saints who established Godly rule over America, circa 1766. As for women and workers, the stupid dolts know they have no rights. God decreed that the ruling class controls all resources and all power. And JR reworked the Ten Commandments to prove it.
Think it couldn't be worse than Bush? Imagine Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, Coulter, Limbaugh, Dobbs, alongside the rest of the Neo-Cons in open contempt of a Democratic Republic.
Why else choose a candidate like Palin who is going in the opposite direction of where "We, the People" say we want to go?
How would we react this time? Could we unite as self-responsible citizens determined to control our own destiny? Would we?
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» Johnny, check your brakes!
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» Agreed! Don't discount the hidden agendas in operation!
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Posted by: TJColatrella on Sep 1, 2008 8:52 AM
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Is no different or less cynical and insulting, than selecting Clarance Thomas as a replacement for the great Thurgood Marshall, and as a representative for black Americans..!
Simple as that..
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Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Sep 1, 2008 9:01 AM
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After Obama betrayed his country with his FISA vote and started pandering to Israel and said he'd support 'faith-based' programs, I'm not sure I can vote for him, but a solid argument against palin would enable me to sway people away from mcshame at least. Politically, she represents all the evil (cruelty towards women, war, environmental destruction, the rich richer at the expense of the poor, you know, the "pro-life" agenda) any repug could want, but it would be nice to be able to sway them away from mcshame with the argument that his judgement is poor as shown by him choosing an unqualified person as VP.
But is she really any less qualified than the democratic presidential candidate?
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Posted by: outsideagitator on Sep 1, 2008 10:42 AM
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Thank you so much!
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Posted by: Iraan Ozono on Sep 1, 2008 10:43 AM
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Star athlete. Prayer leader for her team. (as if God takes sides in games!) Known for aggressive streak.
Same small town beauty queen and state runner-up.
Bachelors degree in communication/journalism. Sports reporter.
Minor in political science.
City council member and mayor of that same small town.
Involved in controversy over abuse of power.
Oil and Gas Conservation Commissioner/”Ethics Supervisor” ? Wants to develop Alaskan wilderness and offshore oil without limit. Denies any human hand in global warming. Classic primitive Guns (Loves them!) God (Worked 1 week only) and Gays (Hates them!) values.
Governor of same huge sparsely populated, unique state for 1 ½ years.
Currently under formal investigation for abuse of power.
A go-getter “rebel” in love with power, with her ethics under investigation and a personal “vision” for her home state of Alaska (#47), but without the tiniest portion of the education, knowledge, background or experience needed to handle a bully nuclear nation, so shamed by her party, that is despised, hated and scorned by most of the world.
If she traveled some she would know this.
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Posted by: nomomorons on Sep 1, 2008 11:03 AM
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Sarah Palin is proof positive that John McCain is not a maverick; he's just plain reckless!
Maybe a bit whacky, as well.
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Posted by: Jbuuty on Sep 1, 2008 11:19 AM
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I suppose he'll have to live with it now.
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Posted by: F-Abdolian on Sep 1, 2008 11:47 AM
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And here is the MySpace page of the father of that child
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 1, 2008 11:54 AM
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Maybe the Palins have learned the hard way that promise rings and church ceremonies don't beat hormones, a boyfriend and a bed. Karma's a bitch.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 1, 2008 12:02 PM
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"Some people lament privately, others are brave enough to take their call for change into the public arena. Martin Luther King III has done his father's legacy proud this week by courageously insisting that our nation's next leader do something about...poverty...I will answer his call, and tell him and the American people today that I will make the eradication of poverty a top priority of the McCain administration."
The current issue of Sojourners interviews both John Edwards and Mike Huckabee on the eradication of poverty, and quotes Mike Huckabee as saying, "I'm a conservative but I'm not a nut. If my choice is a government program or a hungry kid, then give me the government program."
Mike Huckabee says:
"One of the things I'm frustrated about is that Republicans have been infiltrated by hardcore libertarians. Traditional Republicans don't hate all forms of government. They just want it to be efficient and effective. They recognize that it has a place and a role. Growing numbers of people in the Republican party are just short of anarchists in the sense that they basically say: 'Just cut government and cut taxes.' They don't understand that if you do that, there are certain consequences that do not help problems. It exacerbates them."
Jim Wallis says Huckabee told a "values voter" gathering in 2007, "I do not spell G-O-D...G-O-P."
Unfortunately it's business as usual in the GOP. Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, says:
“McCain’s choice for a running mate is beyond belief. By choosing Sarah Palin, McCain has clearly made a decision to continue the Bush legacy of destructive environmental policies.
“Sarah Palin, whose husband works for BP, has repeatedly put special interests first when it comes to the environment. In her scant two years as governor, she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska’s coasts, and put special interests above science. Ms. Palin has made it clear through her actions that she is unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming. Her most recent effort has been to sue the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list, putting Big Oil before sound science. As unbelievable as this may sound, this actually puts her to the right of the Bush administration.
“This is Senator McCain’s first significant choice in building his executive team and it’s a bad one. It has to raise serious doubts in the minds of voters about John McCain’s commitment to conservation, to addressing the impacts of global warming and to ensuring our country ends its dependency on oil.”
In the early '90s, George Bush Sr. referred to environmentalists as "the spotted owl crowd," indirectly indicating Republicans don't understand environmentalism. "And (yet) they call themselves 'pro-life'," mused Fox News' token liberal commentator Alan Colmes a few years ago.
I am disheartened by Sarah Palin's record, her being an avid hunter and fisher, and her ties to Big Oil, but not surprised. She is, after all, a conservative, running for VP on a Republican ticket.
To her credit, Sarah Palin is a member of Feminists For Life, an organization that is both pro-woman AND pro-life. Feminists For Life was founded in 1972, when the National Organization for Women (NOW) expelled all its pro-life members--to stifle dissent on the abortion issue.
I wish pro-life Dems had the kind of visibility within our own Party that pro-choice Republicans have in theirs.
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» "Pro-Life" is just a BULLSHIT phrase. A politician's phrase.
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Posted by: Obama2008Fan on Sep 1, 2008 12:39 PM
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A strict abortion foe, Palin also believes in abstinance. If the governor can't inspire her children to abstain from premarital sex, how can she lead our nation if, God forbid, Insane McCain should die in office after becoming president?
Excuse the oxymoron, but if Sarah Palin were a "good Republican," she would refuse the VP nomination and spend more time raising her kids.
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Obama 4 President 2008
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» Thanks for the info. The Dems better tear the GOP on these silly "moral values" issues.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 1, 2008 1:05 PM
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And if you've ever watched local Fox News Morning broadcasts, you will notice the incredible similarity of the McCain-Palin ticket to the makeup of the show. The show's formula is to have an old, grey-haired man be the lead anchor and have him side-kicked by two hot, sexily dressed, not-so-sharp, much younger females. It is a male fantasy that Fox plays on, especially one that appeals to the old, angry men of the Republican Party. Palin, to put it plainly, looks like someone pretending to be the hot librarian type in a porn movie.
What was happening this election was that, for the first time in a decade, there was forming an actual adult conversation about policies. Republicans do not win under such circumstances. In case McCain wasn't aware of it, the right made that clear.
And so McCain dropped a nuke on any attempt at useful discourse. He put before America someone so obviously unqualified to be President that you can't help but comment on it. BUT, the second you do comment on it, we are instantly back in the FOX News/Limbaugh-brand discussion about, "Oh yeah, well she's more qualified than Barack." "No she's not." "Yes she is." etc.
At the same time, the in-the-gutter GOP base - that same group that claims to be the "values" group - will get to have lots of talk on their AM radio and cable news shows about how cool it is that she's a hot chick who shoots guns and that her husband races. And what immediately leaves the conversation is the economy, useful foreign policy discourse, and a focus on John McCain and his lack of spine, charisma, and believability.
In addition, Palin's views are so directly Bush/Limbaughian, that McCain has officially completed his conversion to embracing the religious/corporate right agenda that has destroyed America - and which he once railed against.
Limbaugh, FOX, Rove and friends are happy as a clam. They now have the propaganda meat they needed. They can do what they have managed to do for years - make the media conversation and the election personal. By putting such an obvious defect front and center, that was the goal of the Palin pick.
Unfortunately, many Democrats fell right into the trap, along with the media. They immediately pointed out the obvious, that she is absurdly unqualified to be President, and by doing so, they invited the planned response by the FOX/Limbaugh right that, no, she has executive experience, which is more than Obama has, and so have allowed them to shift the conversation back to Obama's qualifications and away from policy discussions - which are what actually affect the economy, national security, and the world we live on.
However, the Obama/Biden camp showed right away - as they have throughout this campaign - that they actually have a new brand of politics that nullifies these Rovian tactics. While their spokesperson made the mistake of attacking her "zero" useful experience, the official statement from the campaign was:
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Posted by: Kahoneez on Sep 1, 2008 2:41 PM
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The investigation of Palin for ABUSE of POWER will bring her down politically . She's done, she will be removed as VP or McCain will lose the election for sure . CNN for the FIRST time is reporting Trooper Gate, only after opening with her Daughter . Kyra phillips fast talking didn't explain all the details , that include TAPES of high ranking officials calling the commissioner who was fired . He himself saying she pressured him to fire her brother in law, talking to him directly, which she denies .
CNN just doesn't have the will to inform the public of this serious and legitimate story.
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Posted by: realmuzik on Sep 1, 2008 2:57 PM
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Forget calling her Dan Quayle ... how does Lynne Spears sound??
Note to the better-off ill-unformed: Lynne Spears is Britney and Jamie Lynn's mom! Jamie Lynn is a mom at 16. Britney ... uh ... never mind ...
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Posted by: rikki01 on Sep 6, 2008 6:50 PM
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If Levi is not a Christian, allowing Bristol to marry an unbeliever questions the Christian values of the Word of God of her parents. I would think this would be one of the questions the evangelicals would be asking.
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If Levi is not a Christian, allowing Bristol to marry an unbeliever questions the Christian values of the Word of God of her parents. I would think this would be one of the questions the evangelicals would be asking.
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Posted by: Obama2008Fan on Sep 1, 2008 1:36 AM
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There is no way of justifying such a grossly unfair redistribution of wealth, just as Sarah Palin can't be considered qualified for standby duty as a "heartbeat away" commander-in-chief.
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Obama 4 President 2008
PS: Never forget what a "Maverick" is -- a grumpy old man who enjoys pissing people off, both Democrats and Republicans!
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Posted by: LionHeart on Sep 1, 2008 4:54 AM
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She took on the big boys club in Alaska, took on the oil companies and is seen as anti oil by many. Sounds like she's not as afraid to fight as you think most women are!
Women are stronger than you give them credit for.
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Posted by: babzter on Sep 1, 2008 6:01 AM
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Don't underestimate this woman. She didn't get where she is by being stupid and nice. Just because she's not qualified doesn't mean she can't play with the big dogs or use her particular talents to manipulate the American public.
If John McCain only wants to be President, to hell with the country, this is a brilliant move, IMO.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 1, 2008 6:17 AM
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VOTENADER.ORG !!
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Posted by: ty111 on Sep 1, 2008 6:29 AM
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Why not mail a copy to every reporter in the country. Maybe they will focus on something other than her flag bikini and moose stew.
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Posted by: gazooks on Sep 1, 2008 6:58 AM
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Collectively, we're an undeniably manipulated, stupidly shallow electorate. But a looming vortex of expanding blunder potential lies in this desperately "clever", Rovian move. Just sixty-something days to see how long new shit floats in an American election, to measure our endurance of it's stench and to see if we've yet had our fill. Our capacity to accept the unacceptable has brought us to the brink of a manifest national insanity beyond imagining.
Sarah Palin, as legal successor to a realistically imagined, incapacitated President McInfirmitiesLongerThanYourArm, personifies not only the inanity of our politics, but a security threat to the entire globe.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 1, 2008 7:43 AM
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If they think woman will give up their "Protection Mode" just because it is another female invading and destroying their 'den' they are fools!We first & foremost are the fierce defenders of our children.
We are Outraged by her Story about the birth of her 5 th child- her actions (Inactions) constitute Child endangerment!Was that her attempt at performing her own late Term abortion?Why does she feel so free to take on such a monumental/demanding position when she has a newborn with such high needs.Who si going to care for and Raise this Child while she is busy in the VP Office, traveling around the country, overseas????sound like she can drop kids- literally & figuratively.Absolutely Irresponsible to her first Duty!Kids always trump career ambitons- that 's the way REAL mothers have a hard time competing- time consuming and a commitment to their children First!
this is worse than Hillary Knowingly taking her teenage daughter into a region that was "Under sniper fire". Palin endangered the child to give a speech and a Flight and now is willing to hand over the responsiblity to Who..Her Daughter, husband or more likely Nannies.
and if the child is actually her daughters- what does that say about her feelings towards Unweb mothers- what kind of advocate can you be for a situation you are too humilated and shamed by to even acknowledge! Otherwise you only claimed that child for your own political gains via LYING!
I live in a small rural town of 20,000. My mayor, who I helped campaign for Is NOT Qualified to be Gov of this state!What industry and problems does she understand? Fishing & working for Oil....How about knowledge about Mass production...How can she understand the problems in theRust Belt? How can she have any idea how to help solve it- Rely on Mac's CheneyCorp advisors & Investors to handle it still?
If they think they can Use Palin as Lipstick fro their Policy Pigs- they will not be fooling any Women- they ARE insulting Us!
Althoug I did not support Hillary, anyone who did should be Outraged, by this Patronizing choice!
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 1, 2008 7:52 AM
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Honestly the entire political system is in jeopardy and if McCain is elected we are giving away our nation. Thanks, ANNA
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Sep 1, 2008 8:20 AM
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jdfu!
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Posted by: becky141 on Sep 1, 2008 8:41 AM
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Republicans stage another election fiasco, like 2000 and 2004. McCain, not their man, "dies". Palin ushers in Theocracy, rule by an elite sect who proclaims "Divine Dominion" to enslave America.
Those familiar with the Theocratic viewpoint will not find this a strange idea. Google JR Rushdoony, read "The Institutes of Biblical Law," the Bible that launched the Christian Nation movement. JR's lackeys turned the churches into political machines to put his kind into every branch of government, local and national.
JR paints the Puritan sadists as saints who established Godly rule over America, circa 1766. As for women and workers, the stupid dolts know they have no rights. God decreed that the ruling class controls all resources and all power. And JR reworked the Ten Commandments to prove it.
Think it couldn't be worse than Bush? Imagine Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, Coulter, Limbaugh, Dobbs, alongside the rest of the Neo-Cons in open contempt of a Democratic Republic.
Why else choose a candidate like Palin who is going in the opposite direction of where "We, the People" say we want to go?
How would we react this time? Could we unite as self-responsible citizens determined to control our own destiny? Would we?
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Posted by: TJColatrella on Sep 1, 2008 8:52 AM
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Is no different or less cynical and insulting, than selecting Clarance Thomas as a replacement for the great Thurgood Marshall, and as a representative for black Americans..!
Simple as that..
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Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Sep 1, 2008 9:01 AM
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After Obama betrayed his country with his FISA vote and started pandering to Israel and said he'd support 'faith-based' programs, I'm not sure I can vote for him, but a solid argument against palin would enable me to sway people away from mcshame at least. Politically, she represents all the evil (cruelty towards women, war, environmental destruction, the rich richer at the expense of the poor, you know, the "pro-life" agenda) any repug could want, but it would be nice to be able to sway them away from mcshame with the argument that his judgement is poor as shown by him choosing an unqualified person as VP.
But is she really any less qualified than the democratic presidential candidate?
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Posted by: outsideagitator on Sep 1, 2008 10:42 AM
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Thank you so much!
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Posted by: Iraan Ozono on Sep 1, 2008 10:43 AM
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Star athlete. Prayer leader for her team. (as if God takes sides in games!) Known for aggressive streak.
Same small town beauty queen and state runner-up.
Bachelors degree in communication/journalism. Sports reporter.
Minor in political science.
City council member and mayor of that same small town.
Involved in controversy over abuse of power.
Oil and Gas Conservation Commissioner/”Ethics Supervisor” ? Wants to develop Alaskan wilderness and offshore oil without limit. Denies any human hand in global warming. Classic primitive Guns (Loves them!) God (Worked 1 week only) and Gays (Hates them!) values.
Governor of same huge sparsely populated, unique state for 1 ½ years.
Currently under formal investigation for abuse of power.
A go-getter “rebel” in love with power, with her ethics under investigation and a personal “vision” for her home state of Alaska (#47), but without the tiniest portion of the education, knowledge, background or experience needed to handle a bully nuclear nation, so shamed by her party, that is despised, hated and scorned by most of the world.
If she traveled some she would know this.
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Posted by: nomomorons on Sep 1, 2008 11:03 AM
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Sarah Palin is proof positive that John McCain is not a maverick; he's just plain reckless!
Maybe a bit whacky, as well.
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Posted by: Jbuuty on Sep 1, 2008 11:19 AM
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I suppose he'll have to live with it now.
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And here is the MySpace page of the father of that child
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 1, 2008 11:54 AM
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Maybe the Palins have learned the hard way that promise rings and church ceremonies don't beat hormones, a boyfriend and a bed. Karma's a bitch.
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"Some people lament privately, others are brave enough to take their call for change into the public arena. Martin Luther King III has done his father's legacy proud this week by courageously insisting that our nation's next leader do something about...poverty...I will answer his call, and tell him and the American people today that I will make the eradication of poverty a top priority of the McCain administration."
The current issue of Sojourners interviews both John Edwards and Mike Huckabee on the eradication of poverty, and quotes Mike Huckabee as saying, "I'm a conservative but I'm not a nut. If my choice is a government program or a hungry kid, then give me the government program."
Mike Huckabee says:
"One of the things I'm frustrated about is that Republicans have been infiltrated by hardcore libertarians. Traditional Republicans don't hate all forms of government. They just want it to be efficient and effective. They recognize that it has a place and a role. Growing numbers of people in the Republican party are just short of anarchists in the sense that they basically say: 'Just cut government and cut taxes.' They don't understand that if you do that, there are certain consequences that do not help problems. It exacerbates them."
Jim Wallis says Huckabee told a "values voter" gathering in 2007, "I do not spell G-O-D...G-O-P."
Unfortunately it's business as usual in the GOP. Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, says:
“McCain’s choice for a running mate is beyond belief. By choosing Sarah Palin, McCain has clearly made a decision to continue the Bush legacy of destructive environmental policies.
“Sarah Palin, whose husband works for BP, has repeatedly put special interests first when it comes to the environment. In her scant two years as governor, she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska’s coasts, and put special interests above science. Ms. Palin has made it clear through her actions that she is unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming. Her most recent effort has been to sue the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list, putting Big Oil before sound science. As unbelievable as this may sound, this actually puts her to the right of the Bush administration.
“This is Senator McCain’s first significant choice in building his executive team and it’s a bad one. It has to raise serious doubts in the minds of voters about John McCain’s commitment to conservation, to addressing the impacts of global warming and to ensuring our country ends its dependency on oil.”
In the early '90s, George Bush Sr. referred to environmentalists as "the spotted owl crowd," indirectly indicating Republicans don't understand environmentalism. "And (yet) they call themselves 'pro-life'," mused Fox News' token liberal commentator Alan Colmes a few years ago.
I am disheartened by Sarah Palin's record, her being an avid hunter and fisher, and her ties to Big Oil, but not surprised. She is, after all, a conservative, running for VP on a Republican ticket.
To her credit, Sarah Palin is a member of Feminists For Life, an organization that is both pro-woman AND pro-life. Feminists For Life was founded in 1972, when the National Organization for Women (NOW) expelled all its pro-life members--to stifle dissent on the abortion issue.
I wish pro-life Dems had the kind of visibility within our own Party that pro-choice Republicans have in theirs.
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» "Pro-Life" is just a BULLSHIT phrase. A politician's phrase.
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Posted by: Obama2008Fan on Sep 1, 2008 12:39 PM
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A strict abortion foe, Palin also believes in abstinance. If the governor can't inspire her children to abstain from premarital sex, how can she lead our nation if, God forbid, Insane McCain should die in office after becoming president?
Excuse the oxymoron, but if Sarah Palin were a "good Republican," she would refuse the VP nomination and spend more time raising her kids.
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» Thanks for the info. The Dems better tear the GOP on these silly "moral values" issues.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 1, 2008 1:05 PM
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And if you've ever watched local Fox News Morning broadcasts, you will notice the incredible similarity of the McCain-Palin ticket to the makeup of the show. The show's formula is to have an old, grey-haired man be the lead anchor and have him side-kicked by two hot, sexily dressed, not-so-sharp, much younger females. It is a male fantasy that Fox plays on, especially one that appeals to the old, angry men of the Republican Party. Palin, to put it plainly, looks like someone pretending to be the hot librarian type in a porn movie.
What was happening this election was that, for the first time in a decade, there was forming an actual adult conversation about policies. Republicans do not win under such circumstances. In case McCain wasn't aware of it, the right made that clear.
And so McCain dropped a nuke on any attempt at useful discourse. He put before America someone so obviously unqualified to be President that you can't help but comment on it. BUT, the second you do comment on it, we are instantly back in the FOX News/Limbaugh-brand discussion about, "Oh yeah, well she's more qualified than Barack." "No she's not." "Yes she is." etc.
At the same time, the in-the-gutter GOP base - that same group that claims to be the "values" group - will get to have lots of talk on their AM radio and cable news shows about how cool it is that she's a hot chick who shoots guns and that her husband races. And what immediately leaves the conversation is the economy, useful foreign policy discourse, and a focus on John McCain and his lack of spine, charisma, and believability.
In addition, Palin's views are so directly Bush/Limbaughian, that McCain has officially completed his conversion to embracing the religious/corporate right agenda that has destroyed America - and which he once railed against.
Limbaugh, FOX, Rove and friends are happy as a clam. They now have the propaganda meat they needed. They can do what they have managed to do for years - make the media conversation and the election personal. By putting such an obvious defect front and center, that was the goal of the Palin pick.
Unfortunately, many Democrats fell right into the trap, along with the media. They immediately pointed out the obvious, that she is absurdly unqualified to be President, and by doing so, they invited the planned response by the FOX/Limbaugh right that, no, she has executive experience, which is more than Obama has, and so have allowed them to shift the conversation back to Obama's qualifications and away from policy discussions - which are what actually affect the economy, national security, and the world we live on.
However, the Obama/Biden camp showed right away - as they have throughout this campaign - that they actually have a new brand of politics that nullifies these Rovian tactics. While their spokesperson made the mistake of attacking her "zero" useful experience, the official statement from the campaign was:
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The investigation of Palin for ABUSE of POWER will bring her down politically . She's done, she will be removed as VP or McCain will lose the election for sure . CNN for the FIRST time is reporting Trooper Gate, only after opening with her Daughter . Kyra phillips fast talking didn't explain all the details , that include TAPES of high ranking officials calling the commissioner who was fired . He himself saying she pressured him to fire her brother in law, talking to him directly, which she denies .
CNN just doesn't have the will to inform the public of this serious and legitimate story.
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Forget calling her Dan Quayle ... how does Lynne Spears sound??
Note to the better-off ill-unformed: Lynne Spears is Britney and Jamie Lynn's mom! Jamie Lynn is a mom at 16. Britney ... uh ... never mind ...
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NEXT!
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http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-51603.html
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If Levi is not a Christian, allowing Bristol to marry an unbeliever questions the Christian values of the Word of God of her parents. I would think this would be one of the questions the evangelicals would be asking.
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If Levi is not a Christian, allowing Bristol to marry an unbeliever questions the Christian values of the Word of God of her parents. I would think this would be one of the questions the evangelicals would be asking.
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