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Why Obama Could be in Trouble

By Robert Parry, Consortium News. Posted August 7, 2008.


Instead of acting like journalists, the mainstream media have become McCain's personal assistants, regurgitating his B.S. without question.
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It might seem unlikely that the United States would elect John McCain to succeed George W. Bush when that would ensure continuation of many unpopular Bush policies: an ill-defined war with the Muslim world, right-wing consolidation of the U.S. Supreme Court, a drill-oriented energy strategy, tax cuts creating massive federal deficits, etc., etc.

But there are reasons -- beyond understandable concerns about Barack Obama's limited experience -- that make a McCain victory possible, indeed maybe probable.

Here is one of the big ones: The U.S. news media is as bad as ever, arguably worse.

On Monday, Obama gave a detail-rich speech on how he would address the energy crisis, which is a major point of concern among Americans. From ideas for energy innovation to retrofitting the U.S. auto industry to conservation steps to limited new offshore drilling, Obama did what he is often accused of not doing, fleshing out his soaring rhetoric.

McCain responded with a harsh critique of Obama's calls for more conservation, claiming that Obama wants to solve the energy crisis by having people inflate their tires. McCain's campaign even passed out a tire gauge marked as Obama's energy plan.

For his part, McCain made clear he wanted to drill for more oil wherever it could be found and to build many more nuclear power plants.

These competing plans offered a chance for the evening news to address an issue of substance that is high on the voters' agenda. Instead, NBC News anchor Brian Williams devoted 30 seconds to the dueling energy speeches, without any details and with the witty opening line that Obama was "refining" his energy plan.

So, instead of dealing with a serious issue in a serious way, NBC News ignored the substance and went for a clever slight against Obama, hitting his political maneuvering in his softened opposition to more offshore drilling.

Williams's quip fit with one of the press corps' favorite campaign narratives, Obama's flip-flopping. But the coverage ignored far more important elements of the story, such as the feasibility of Obama's vow that "we must end the age of oil in our time" or the wisdom of McCain's emphasis on drilling -- and nuking -- the nation out of its energy mess.

And, as for flip-flops, McCain's dramatic repositioning of himself as an anti-environmentalist -- after years of being one of the green movement's favorite Republicans -- represents a far more significant change than Obama's modest waffling on offshore oil.

The Sierra Club, one of the nation's premier environmental organizations, has repudiated McCain and now is running ads attacking his energy plan. But McCain's flip-flops -- even complete reversals -- remain an underplayed part of the campaign story. They just don't fit the narrative of maverick John McCain on the "Straight Talk Express."

Loving the 'Surge'

The major U.S. news media has been equally superficial in dealing with the Iraq War and the "war on terror." It is now a fully enshrined conventional wisdom that George W. Bush's troop "surge" was a huge success and vindicates McCain's early support for it. On Obama's overseas trip, it became de rigueur for each interviewer to pound him for the first 10 or 15 minutes with demands that he accept the accepted wisdom about the "surge" and admit that he was wrong and McCain was right.

Obama's attempts to offer a more subtle explanation of what had occurred in Iraq -- that key reasons for the declining violence actually predated the "surge" -- were treated with bafflement by the interviewers, who simply reframed their questions and came back at him in a show of toughness against Obama's supposed evasions.

CBS News anchor Katie Couric started this pattern, but others fell smartly in line, including NBC's Tom Brokaw on "Meet the Press." Indeed, many of the same media stars who had cheered the nation to war in 2003 (such as Brokaw) were now hectoring Obama, who had spoken out against the invasion in real time.

Conversely, McCain is never challenged about his misjudgment in advocating a rapid pivot from Afghanistan to Iraq in late 2001 and early 2002, before Osama bin Laden and other top al-Qaeda were captured and before Afghanistan had stabilized.

That premature pivot now stands as one of the biggest military blunders in U.S. history, leaving American troops bogged down in two open-ended wars and allowing the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks to regroup and to plot in safe havens inside Pakistan.

However, American voters who rely on the major news media for their information would have no idea about McCain's central role in this fiasco. All they hear about is how McCain was right about the "surge" and how Obama won't admit he was wrong.

Britney/Paris

When American news consumers aren't hearing misinformation, they're almost surely hearing trivia. The TV news shows couldn't resist endlessly repeating McCain's attack ad that compared Obama and his enthusiastic reception in Berlin to misbehaving celebrities Britney Spears and Paris Hilton.


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McCain deceiving the American people
Posted by: carolyn05 on Aug 7, 2008 1:30 AM   
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I agree with this reporter. The TV media especially are doing a terrible job of reporting the truth. They are doing a great disservice to the people of the United States. I would go so far as to say that they are putting our entire nation and even the world at risk.

McCain is not a maverick. He is not the same man who ran in 2000. This year, he will say and do anything to win including tell lies. There is no other word which describes the things he has been saying about Obama of late. He is also willing to make ridiculous ads featuring Paris Hilton and Britney Spears-this coming from a presidential candidate?

He describes himself as the more experienced one in foreign policy, but he cannot even keep the difference between Shia and Sunni straight. He thought that Iran (Shiite) was training Al Qaeda (Sunni). It would be funny if not so frightning that he does not truly understand what is going on. McCain who was bottom of his class in the Naval Academy only made it through because he came from a well known and well off family. He is the one who should be labeled elitist, whose wife is a heiress, who lives in multiple mansions, whose advisor told struggling Americans that they should stop whining, whose campaign is run by dozens of rich lobbyists, (and not only are these lobbyists rich, they have lobbyed on behalf of some of the most corrupt leaders in the world), who is now fully supporting tax cuts for the 1% most wealthy in the US.

John McCain sold his honor to his Republican Karl Rovian handlers. If he will say and do anything to become president of the US, what will he do as president? We already have a president who was and is willing to deceive the American people, with disasterous and deadly consequences. We must not make the same mistake. Do not elect John McCain. Barack Obama is far superior in intellect, judgement, temperment, and now after the last few weeks of seeing McCain spouting lies, I would add Barack Obama has more honor.

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» The polls are even Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals
» RE: The polls are even Posted by: ChicagoPaul
Worst fears coming true
Posted by: skoog5600 on Aug 7, 2008 1:56 AM   
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McCain sold his soul to the devil long ago, but I never would have guessed the old codger had a fighting chance for presidency. But alas Americans look to the MSM for easy answers, and well clearly they air on the side of McCain.

It's too bad that your typical American intelligence level is at the level of a __________ (fill in your own word here).

Anyway, I caught the Daily Show, which incidentally is one of the best and few critics of MSM that is actually part of the mainstream. The arrogant and pompous Brian Williams was spouting off how important his interview with the president of Iran was. He offers nothing but hot air and blather. I am telling you it will be MSM that is the downfall of the United States, well that and the short sighted view of life.

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» RE: Worst fears coming true Posted by: weathered
» RE: Worst fears coming true Posted by: Kitty Lady Oregon
» RE: Worst fears coming true Posted by: dmoylan
Has anyone noticed that McCain's campaign is just like Bush's run-up to the Iraq War?
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 AM   
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Talk about deja vu all over again!

To maintain its fascist chokehold on America, the rightwing GOP is using every dirty trick and deception in Karl Rove's playbook, including the race card, to make Obama look like a threat -- just as was done to Iraq.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Barrack will lose in November if he doesn't put Hillary on the ticket. As the old Chinese expression goes, "Keep your friends close, your enemies closer."

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam veteran, lifelong registered Republican and ardent Obama supporter*
Seven Reasons to Vote Against Unfit McCain

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» Taking the wrong track! Posted by: progressive-life
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» False notions of credibility Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» Who is making the cheap shots? Posted by: Illiteratilumen
Nobody Is Listening
Posted by: thebeerdoctor on Aug 7, 2008 3:34 AM   
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People who follow politics are aware of all these glaring contradictions, but the faux-bikers at the Sturgis rally who cheered John McCain? They do not care what the politicos are saying, they know in their hearts that Senator McCain is a GENUINE American War Hero. People that complain about foreign beer while drinking Belgian Budweiser. People who think foreign policy is "sticking it to them before they stick it to you". Despite pretensions of sophistication, there is a vast base of the electorate who have such a mentality. In fact, John McCain is counting on it.

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» RE: Nobody Is Listening Posted by: lawton
THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB. THEY ARE DOING JUST
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Aug 7, 2008 3:38 AM   
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what they are told to do by their corporate bosses and corporate advertisers. It, afterall, was the main stream media that told the nation that Truman had lost and Dewey had won. It was the mainstream media that told the nation that Al Gore had lost and George Bush had won. They are often the progenitors of self-fullfilling predictions.

I think that there is a really good chance that Obama is dead in the water. After all he has to fight ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and FOX and at least a billion dollars of right wing think tank talking points. I think that there is a really strong chance that democracy in the United States will never again see the light of day. The voters have but one choice. They must vote in mass. Then they must cull out the democratic party and eliminate all of the left wing republicans out of the democratic party.(Liberman?) Remember 58% of the American people support the idea of a third party.

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Since When Does the Press Decide Who Runs This Country?
Posted by: marusasma on Aug 7, 2008 4:51 AM   
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I'm absolutely fed up with the media attempting to decide who is going to win this election. AOL ran a feature about some bureau or something that has a high accuracy of predicting who will win the election.

The whole problem with this particular election is that you have Obama who cheated to become the Democratic Party nomination and McCain who has some serious psychiatric issues that is the Republican Party nominee.

McCain may have "military experience," but he also was a POW and that experience has colored tremendously what he is attempting to do. I shutter to think that he will push for more oil and really doesn't care much about anything.

Obama, on the other hand, although he is coming out with better laid out plans, really worries me, not only because of his lack of experience, but because of his background. Can he truly be objective? He is so superficial. He can't even decide on a running mate. If he can't decide on that, how is he going to decide on the bigger picture?

This whole mess has been created, in large part, by the media and how they portray the candidates running for office. Some very good candidates were forced to drop out because the political pundits kept drumming it in that the likelihood of "X" winning was slim because of whatever reasons they could come up with.

I thought that it was the journalists and media's duty to be objective. In reality, much of what they are saying (or not saying) is totally subjective. That is not news. That is personal opinion. They need to report the facts whether they agree with them or not.

If a political candidate says they are for not drilling and their record in congress has been for drilling, they need to state this. If, however, the candidate has taken a firm stance on a particular subject matter and sticks to it, they need to state this as well, not the sniping and backstabbing along with all the other dirty campaign tricks. Do we really need another Bush? Hasn't the country learned about people who cheat and lie? When the people of this country going to learn? When its too late?

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Ignore the jangling keys, fix the system
Posted by: Moonray on Aug 7, 2008 4:55 AM   
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Obama might lose -- Gosh, ya think? Let's face it, our election system -- which has elevated the corrupt Democratic and Republican parties to the be-all and end-all of all things political -- is hopelessly compromised. This latest campaign merely proves it.

Of course Obama can't get a fair shake. The corporate media are owned by a handful of corporations who in turn are run by a few dozen moguls who aren't known for their dedication to the public welfare and good government. So it's almost amusing to see the MSM beginning to turn on Obama in earnest, framing their questions and stacking their panels of talking heads in ways guaranteed to make McCain look like Obama's moral and intellectual equivalent.

We need to stop whining over this inevitable outcome and start thinking about seriously changing the system. Those changes should involve making all federal elections nonpartisan, with no spending allowed for advertising and only a pittance allowed for campaign administration. The candidates should have to get their message across via public television or other suitable public venues. Of course, stict term limits of four years for the House and Senate should be imposed, with a maximum of two terms.

Until such changes are made, our federal elections are largely symbolic. A small coterie of the super-rich and super-well-connected will continue to run our country (into the ground) and we sheep will be left to foot the bill, as usual.

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» So Just how do we FIX THE SYSTEM? Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
Steve V. in Vermont
Posted by: steve.janv@hotmail.com on Aug 7, 2008 5:04 AM   
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Someone once said people get the type of government they deserve. If McCain is elected this won't just be a loss for Obama, it will be a loss for everyone. Millions of people, now engaged in politics because of Obama, would turn their backs on the system and simply walk away.
This election will speak volumes about who, as a people, we REALLY ARE, not the face we present to the world. This will be the most important election in recent history. Three months from now we'll have an insight into the real America and the direction it wants to go.

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» RE: Steve V. in Vermont Posted by: donl51
Oh yeah, well what about...
Posted by: beautifulady2003 on Aug 7, 2008 5:18 AM   
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more important stuff, such as Ron Suskind's revelation about Bush and the phony letter to justify invading Iraq? The press isn't exactly going nuts on that, either. It's as if the US government is putting tranquilizers in the drinking water. What is going on here?

I'm no fan of Obama, but I am fed up to here with the lousy reporting that passes as journalism in this country. I've started going to foreign sources more and more for my information, and especially since 9/11 I am astonished at what the MSM in the US does NOT report. This is one reason I know this country is doomed - because the information is out there, but no one here is reporting it and the American people are generally too incurious to go after it. So the average American glances at one newspaper (maybe) and catches 5 or 10 minutes of news in the evening (maybe). The most exposure many people get is through the junk political ads on TV, which is truly a shameful thing in this "information age." Worst case scenario is the intellectually lazy (or anti-intellectual) person who watches those ads and bases their decision on whom to vote for (if they bother to vote at all) on whether Obama is like Paris Hilton...and who the hell is Ralph Nader, anyway?

And look at this anthrax thing for a moment. The press seems to be preoccupied with the unfortunate Mr. Ivins and even 3 days later, is still "reporting" on the smarmy and very private details of his life. They forgot what the word "objectivity" means, they lost their sense of decorum and decency, and what is worst is that they substitute innuendo and speculation for fact.

But oh how they jump right on it whenever there's something remotely lurid or juicy to report. I am feeling very sorry for John Edwards and his family right now, for the utterly irrelevant and prurient so-called reportage he is victim of.

When is this going to end? When we elevate ourselves as a society back to where we should be. No wonder our country is in a mess when we are more interested in what someone does in the bedroom than what they do in the White House.

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» RE: Oh yeah, well what about... Posted by: beautifulady2003
The artisan and the tool
Posted by: QCao009 on Aug 7, 2008 5:24 AM   
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I agree with the premise, and yet, the reason is somewhat more complex. It is not win or lose, black or white and it is certainly a lot more than a puny Bush and a kniving McCain can understand. It is a continuing negotiation process so the ruling class can ultimately come out with the best deal.

It's not that our votes do not count, It's that they do count, but we the people are being maneuvered to vote a certain way. Those are the rules of this chessboard called democracy.

MSM is a mere tool and journalists have a trade they have to ply just like doctors and lawyers. They have to follow a protocol and a pattern. Ask ourselves how the American dream is being packaged and sold and how the koolaid is being branded and fed to believers. Credit, the underpinning foundation of capital, must be a buy-in if profit is to be made through exploitation. Abuse has to have the implicit consent of the abused. Look how the once tortured McCain now supports it. Integrity has a price and the "maverick", for all his pose, has smoked himself into the terminal cancer of hybris and sold his soul to the devil.

If we watch closely the transformation of the Clintons, we will follow how Bill "won" and how Hillary "lost". Bill went through the plank, gave in gradually more and more, and in the process "won". Hillary thought she had the upper hand, stood her ground, denounced the sexism and was not allowed the nomination. As the Obama campaign matured, a sense of entitlement took over, and more than anything else, the ability to negotiate a victory has become sidetracked this past month to responses to the McRovian onslaught of mediocrity and sidebar scuffles.

The truth is it takes discipline and it takes integrity. A good craftsman does not blame his tools. If the peg does not fit, reshape it, or find another hole. Blaming the press is pure nonsense. The press is neither liberal nor conservative, they follow their trade, but they are beholden to the checkwriters. I am not including Faux Noise in the ranks of the press. They are a sidebar.

When all is said and done, based on pure contrast and comparison, McCain should not even be in the game. Yet, at the end of the day, whether this horserace is pure fiction to peddle fictionalized made-up news or whether it is a Trojan horse for a repetition of 2000 or 2004, we should learn from Jimmy Carter. It's better to lose than to lose one's integrity. There is more in life than a Presidency. There is more to life than politics, especially when the calling is to serve, not to fulfill any long-cherished ambition that is all maya, any way. Once a candidate realizes that, the smile is no longer forced, and it's a wonderful journey.

Winning may be the only thing in our modern day psychosis, it is not everything given the brevity of our human existence. That is why it is too late for an imbecile to mouth off about a legacy. The people will have their ultimate word: his name fits on the San Francisco dumpt than the halls of Southern Methodist University. It soils the reputation of a higher learning institution.

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Obama, Media, and Policy
Posted by: Urgelt on Aug 7, 2008 5:27 AM   
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Obama does have to be worried about the corporate media. The Repugs have a near-stranglehold on news programming at the major networks.

He should also be worried about focusing on the wrong damn things.

The Repugs want to keep the debate on cultural divisions: abortion, prayer in schools, evolution, race. They want to keep it away from economic issues; that's where they are vulnerable.

The Dems, by abandoning Rooseveltian liberal ideas and embracing neoliberal economic policy right out of the Repug playbook, has guaranteed that the debate will be cultural.

That's not a debate that goes over well in the heartland for Dems.

Obama is padding his campaign with Chicago-school neoliberal economists. They're anti-regulation, anti-government, pro-trust, pro-outsourcing, pro-offshoring, pro-globalization, pro-tax breaks for the rich, the same ideas that the Repugs have championed since Reagan. As with Bill Clinton, it's hard to see where Obama differs with his opponent on economic issues.

If Obama doesn't give Americans a clear choice in economic policy, then the election will be decided on culturally divisive issues. I really don't think that's a good game plan for the Dems.

He'll also lose a few progressives to the Greens - me included. I was not amused when he caved on FISA. I won't vote for a candidate who will not defend the Constitution to his dying breath.

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Barack Is Going to Have to Fight
Posted by: shill on Aug 7, 2008 5:25 AM   
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Barack Obama had better not have any too terrible skeletons in his closet, because he's going to have to fight in order to win. These are the same tactics that the Republican Party has used in the past, and they use them because they WORK! They worked against John Kerry because he didn't fight back (except when he demolished Bush in their first TV debate).Then he let up on the attack. They worked against Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, etc. The average people BELIEVE it when the Republican candidates sling mud, because the Democrats appear less than willing to get down and get with it themselves, which signifies to many people that what the Republicans are saying is TRUE, or that the Democrat in question MUST have something to hide (which often they DO) or they'd be fighting back harder. Obama's race and name are problems for him, whether anyone wants to fool themselves into thinking otherwise or not. Yes, even in THIS day and age people! So he'd better fight back and fight back hard if he wants to win. And he'd better not be hiding anything, because the mainstream media with the help of their right wing sponsors WILL dig it up if he is! Make absolutely NO mistake about THAT! He should be saying that if "The Surge" was so successful then why aren't we out of Iraq yet? PERIOD! Anything more subtle is lost on a lot of American voters. He should be pounding McCain by linking him with Bush EVERY chance he gets on the war, the economy, etc, which shouldn't be that hard. He should be mentioning the Keating 5 scandal whenever McCain goes on about what a maverick and all around good guy he is. He should be spotlighting guys who served with McCain in the military and who have SAID they wouldn't vote for him and HAVE GIVEN REASONS WHY!!! He should be mentioning the recent reports that the White House told the FBI to link the anthrax attacks after 9/11 to Al Quaida, and other recent allegations by some of the authors issuing books attacking this administrations' rushing us into this war. He should be USING Cindy McCain's drug addiction and how she financed it by skimming money from the charity she was in charge of at the time against McCain. He should be USING the sale of Budweiser and Busch beer, which was hers, against McCain as an example of JUST HOW CONCERNED he and his wife are with keeping jobs in our country when it gets down to the nitty gritty. If push comes to shove, he could mention McCain calling his wife a c#*t in front of the press. In other words, he is going to have to fight fire with fire if he has ANY HOPE of winning, so he'd better not have much to hide because he was ALWAYS the underdog, despite all of the mainstream blather designed to build him up and convince people otherwise so they could then tear him down in the end and keep power safely in their benefactors' hands. And he'd better start fighting back SOON!!

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Media matters maybe
Posted by: solrev on Aug 7, 2008 5:57 AM   
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The media is entertainment masquerading as news. Where did Walter go long time passing? The American people are jumping on the drill drill drill bandwagon according to the polls. The media can only jump on the bandwagon too. It is sad that the American people do not realize and are not being told that the 3% maybe US oil reserves are meaningless in the world supply and not big enough to change prices. They are not being told that domestic oil costs the refineries the same amount as Middle East oil, and that is how oil companies make their huge profits pumping domestic oil. They are not being told that the reduction of violence in Iraq had more to do with the fact that the military stopped treating the Arab Sunni and al Sadr Shia as terrorists and started pumping some guns and butter their way, rather than the number of military. They are not being told that most of the sectarian genocide in Baghdad was carried out by the Maliki Shia in police uniforms. If a civil war erupts in Iraq it will be between the Arab Sunni fighting with the al Sadr Shia against the Iranian backed al Badr Shia, the media fells to mention that it was these nationalists who fought the Iranians while Maliki was laying low in Iran. Obama has to play the race card because race is a big issue in this election and every body knows it but no one wants to say it. The media should be all over Hannity’s world for being racists. Bad black preacher, bad Black Muslim, bad black Obama, bad tax collectors, and bad Jesus for drinking wine with them, the born again pagan right hear only parables. Every one knows there are plenty of white closet racists looking for an excuse not to vote for Obama. You remember the great generation that beat the krauts and the nips while fighting in a segregated military. Do you really think the majority of that generation will vote for a black person? They were openly racists in their day even in the blue states. Is Obama losing? I am still betting on Obama. The national polls I believe are flawed because the good old boys are looking at a voting demographic that is changing and they simply have no mechanism to catch up with the change. Obama has plenty of money to run his own ad campaign and the presidential debates working for him. He does not need the entertainment media who will be going with the flow. By the time the media catches up it will be over. I would pick Clinton if I were Obama because she is a fighter, and the fight is going to be with congress if we are going to make any progress in the next eight years.

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The media mess
Posted by: progressive-life on Aug 7, 2008 6:04 AM   
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Part of Obama’s supposed media problem is that the media in fact coddled him for months. He was never asked the hard questions, and the grass roots support he has managed to develop has somehow played against him and manifested itself in equating him with rock stars suggesting no more substance then they have!

SNL’s pieces on the soft treatment of Obama hit a note with the press who laughingly feels they have to at least try to be impartial.

As the press went along with Obama on an invite to Iraq everyone expected it to be a lovefest. So they again felt compelled to appear tough and hammer him on the surge.. No one expected him to agree the surge worked – that would just hand the election to McCain – so the media hammered him on that point.

So when we have a media that can be so partial it is foreign to them how to be impartial. To them impartial usually means taking the side of someone who is the underdog, not perceived the favorite!

The media also looks for ratings.. McCain with bikers is no big deal and was obviously a PR moment. Obama’s energy plan should be on the front pages for days and McCain should be responding to it. Instead we have Paris Hilton videos making news.

No wonder we can never get the real story on the candidates positions. Our media still cannot get it straight!

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» RE: The media mess Posted by: oregoncharles
Race, Rhetoric and NPR
Posted by: focus on Aug 7, 2008 6:21 AM   
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Yes, the major news outlets are inline with republican goals and by ostracizing and belittling Obama they might be able to hoodwink otherwise intelligent american voters. However, it is up to Obama to also attack the media who is doing a dis-service to all of us and the reporters who have lost their minds. I place NPR right up there with the rest of them. They seem to have become Fox-Lite or maybe their easylisting satellite station. For the past week I have heard several commentators including Juan Williams and Mara Liason jump on the RACE bandwagon. I think it's interesting that issues of what so-called race Obama is takes precedence over what his policies are, especially in relation to the so-called white man's vote. So, very, very, ignorant of the once venerable news outlet. Yes, a number of NPR reporters are out to diminish Barak Obama by repeating ridiculous retorts by John McCain. No analysis or context is given for McCain's attacks or they replaying of them.
This week, Russ Suskind had a lot of important information on Bush knowing there were no WMDs in Iraq and instead of the anchor asking him about his research and sources, the anchor, not alarmed at this news, jumped all over Suskind and kept asking him with incredulity, "Are you telling me that ...) Yes, idiot, he was telling you very old news but with irrefutable proof. So on NPR, one day story, poof, gone.

Shame on you NPR. We should all listen very carefully to how they are reporting the election issues and not give them any slack. NPR is not and has not been liberal in much of it's reporting for years so don't just think because it's on NPR it's unbiased. Listeners, be careful when they begin begging for your hard earned and diminishing capital, not support certain segments on this station and maybe, just maybe they'll begin to create new laurels they can stand on instead of the ones they no longer deserve.

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» RE: ace, Rhetoric and NPR Posted by: Cybershaman
betsy
Posted by: betsyw on Aug 7, 2008 6:37 AM   
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I couldn't help but smile (it is no laughing matter) when McCain said that nuclear power was safe because after all he, himself, had spent several years on a nuclear sub, and it never hurt him. He is a poster child for malignant melanoma, LOL.

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You Need to Listen to More Radio!
Posted by: ChicagoPaul on Aug 7, 2008 6:38 AM   
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While I agree with much of what has been said in this thread thus far, I think it's also important to underscore the fact that (as some did above) the "message" is getting through to the masses.

As proof, I offer a few snippets from Conservative Talk Radio that I picked up on a recent roadtrip. (I apologize to those who read this stuff in a thread yesterday.)

Yes, Obama is in trouble because there are millions of Americans (similar to the Sturgis bikers mentioned above - not to pick on bikers per se) who "keep life simple" - just the way Karl Rove likes it.

These snippets come from various sources: Rush and Laura (Ingrams) and "local" talk folks, all taking calls from "the people."

Disclaimer: I'm not going to get trapped into saying that there were a ton of angry people on the radio when I was listening - all hanging desperately onto their guns and religion. No, that would make me out to be an elitist. I'm just gonna quote what I heard:

There was the woman from South Carolina who called and was terribly upset with Obama and the Liberal Media who have said "just terrible things" about President Bush (meaning W). All of which were unfounded and untrue.

There was the man from Tennessee who claimed that "every time someone criticizes Obama, they are called a racist." He claims that he has many other reasons why he won't be voting for Obama ”besides (sic) the fact that he is black.” AND, he doesn't even think THAT statement is a racist statement!

There was the guy from North Carolina who (very reverently, I must add) asked Rush to discontinue his use of his ridiculing characterization of Obama as the "Messiah," because "we all know there is only one true Messiah," he said.

There was the woman from Indiana who quoted from a recent letter she had received from the NRA claiming that Obama, if elected, would be releasing over 7 million prisoners and at the same time, work to take away her guns that she would be using to protect herself from those prisoners.

Then, there was the man who complained about having Senators running for higher office at the time that they are already not performing their duties in the office to which they were currently elected. What was interesting here was the commentator's response (a local Indiana man): "Yes, Obama is paid something like $180,000, and he never shows up to vote." (No mention of McCain's salary and missing votes.)

How many millions of Americans think this way? I have no idea, but there a many. AND, all they need to be is "fired up" to go out and vote. That is what is being created right now...motivation! "If we don't take a stand NOW...."

So, rather than being angry about the mess created by George W. Bush, et al, the Rovian plan is to get people angry about issues like those mentioned above.

A second Rovian plan is to plant TROLLS in sites like AlterNet. The MO for these TROLLS is usually (but not exclusively) to be disguised as Far Left bloggers who tear down Obama from THAT perspective. Yes, there are some legit Far Lefters on here, but there are other FOXES (interesting parallel, huh?) wearing WOOL as they pull the wool over our eyes.

A third Rovian plan is the basic content of the main article of this thread: Control the Mass Media while at the same time complaining that the Mass Media is biased in favor of the other guy.

These folks are good at what they do. The proof is in the pudding. Just listen to Conservative Talk Radio for a day.

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» marilee Posted by: marileero
» RE: Tiny, self-selected sample. Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Tiny, self-selected sample. Posted by: ChicagoPaul
» RE: You Need to Listen to More Radio! Posted by: beautifulady2003
Obama had no FUCKING business pandering to the "right" !! He brought this upon himself !!
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 7, 2008 6:51 AM   
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Obama had NOTHING to lose by moving to the left and getting at the heart of the economic and even foreign policy and environmental issues. He had the perfect golden opportunity for 4 years and 9 out of 10 times, he FUCKING BLEW IT !!!! The reason GOD WILL PUNISH OBAMA WITH A LANDSLIDE DEFEAT TO AS MANY AS 50 STATES is the fact that after winning an "easy" seat, he SOLD OUT and BETRAYED the voters who had hopes for a fight for change ! He chose to accept the status quo and let the ABUSERS carry on with their crimes and he deserves to LOSE AND GO DOWN IN FLAMES !!!! YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

RALPH NADER FOR PRESIDENT !!!!

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Just what did you expect?
Posted by: John Edward on Aug 7, 2008 7:43 AM   
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Any journalist with true reporting abilities and an inquisitive mind was fired when big money took over the news business. Just like any spy who questioned Bush's disire for war was fired. They want to hear what they want to hear and nothing else. Faux News is a prime example. The "news" channels on cable have no news, just screaming extremist mouthpieces. As a member of the last well public educated generation I must say that the level of discourse has degraded to roughly junior high level. Listen to the emotion each of the McCain spokespersons try to convey. It all boils down to the neocon theory of the eternal war allowing them to control the population through the manipulation of fear. That is all they have. They are great at winning and lousy at ruling. That is to me the main problem with neocons, they want to elect a dictator not a leader. Our President is the first among equals, no more no less. The neocon model is basiclly unAmerican is style and philosophy.

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Once again.......
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 7, 2008 7:46 AM   
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And still we the people continue to listen and pay attention to the MSM and their corporate handlers. This is just another example of the failures of the corporate media. The media gave George W. a pass when he was running for president (they never got around to his failures as governor of Texas), a pass on the lead up to the war in Iraq, a pass on the aftermath of the hurricanes Katrina and Rita, and he is still getting a pass.

John McCain and his heiress wife really need to shut up and sit in a corner. Talk about elite-ism! Let's talk about how those tax cuts have helped to enrich he and his wife! Let us talk about the Keating 5 S&L disasters of which he was a part! Let us talk about the corporate lobbiests that are governing his campaign! Let us talk about that shill & whiner Phil Graham & his wife that helped to de-regulate the economy for their own financial benefit!

Hopefully there are enough Americans that are fed up and can see through the shenanigans that will give serious thought to the pocketbook issues that we all have!

As for the distracting diatribes about Barack Obama, as the first viable African-American for president please know that he's had threats made against his life! His use of the Secret Service has reasons! When the current president went to England the first time the areas where he went (Parliament, Buckingham Palace, etc) were blocked for at least 6 blocks to keep protesters away, lest someone yell something to offend the little tyrant!

Well, so they want to go with the "surge" worked, ok, how about explaining that many of the ethinically mixed (Sunni, Shia) neighborhoods are empty - the previous inhabitants either dead or fled the country! How about that Anbar awakening that happened before the surge started! Or how about the president of Iraq already asking for a timetable for reduction of forces - and yet the current administration and John McCain insisting that we need to stay the course! And while we are on the subject of staying the course, can someone please tell me what is this "VICTORY", that they keep talking about?! Can someone tell me exactly what they mean by that? Is it the victory of capturing & killing Saddam (done that), is it the political reconciliation between (Sunni, Shia), well they are achieving that, so job done, time to go, no?

Oh, I know it's when ExxonMoble, Shell, BP, get those exclusive contracts to control the oil!!!! See people, it really is all about the OIL!!!!!

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Corporations
Posted by: Southern Gal on Aug 7, 2008 7:51 AM   
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The media is corporately owned and controlled. The corporate media managed the Democrat's primary campaign and they will manage the Presidential campaign. Both of these candidates are favored by corporations. It is becoming more clear that McCain is seen to be more manageable and thus more desirable by the Powers That Be. Because of McCain's lack of interest or lack of intellect to grasp the facts of governance in this modern world, he will be led by the same powerful group that led Bush and control the global economy. Obama didn't help his own interests by caving on certain issues to pander to the center voting block and deserting his progressive supporters, who helped propell him to be the Democrat's presidential candidate. Either way, regardless of who wins this election, the corporations win and continue to rule.

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