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McCain and Obama on Social Security and Taxes

By Marie Cocco, Washington Post Writers Group. Posted August 5, 2008.


McCain favors ... well, he's hard to pin down. Obama's being cagey, too.
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WASHINGTON -- In this summer of our economic discontent, it isn't necessary to manufacture a financial crisis or to make political hash out of discussing a nonexistent one.

So I'm baffled at why the subject of Social Security keeps popping up in the presidential campaign, and all the more so because neither Republican John McCain nor Democrat Barack Obama can manage to talk coherently about it.

McCain is guilty of head-spinning turns. Having once been a supporter of partially privatizing the vast retirement and social insurance system, McCain has been more consistent during the campaign in supporting a bipartisan panel similar to the 1983 Greenspan Commission to work out future financing problems. Everything, McCain said, has to be "on the table."

Predictably, this bit of straight talk raised the hackles of the conservative anti-tax lobby -- always antagonistic toward McCain. So McCain switched back to a strict anti-tax rhetoric, but in almost the same breath, continued to say that he would support a bipartisan commission that looks at all options.

Got all that?

More consistent, but no more comprehensible, is Obama's idea of creating a "doughnut hole" in the payroll tax structure that supports Social Security. Currently, payroll taxes are capped at earnings of $102,000 -- that is, someone earning more than that does not pay Social Security taxes on the rest of his or her salary. The workers' eventual benefits also are capped in line with taxes paid.

Obama says he would raise taxes to help finance the system, but only on those who earn $250,000 a year or more. His campaign refuses to say what percentage tax increase would be imposed, or even whether it would be a payroll or an income-tax hike. More significantly, the Obama campaign does not discuss what would happen to benefits with this unprecedented shift in how taxes are levied.

Since Social Security's inception, workers have received benefits that are roughly linked to the taxes they've paid into the system. This element of fairness is what keeps the program politically popular, and prevents it from being viewed as welfare. Would some future commission on Social Security go along with adding such complexity -- let alone changing the basic bargain that has served the program so well, for so long? Probably not.

Luckily, the heat of summer has produced at least one proposal that sheds light, and logic, on the debate. The American Academy of Actuaries -- an independent, professional group that has never before endorsed a particular method of bringing Social Security into long-term balance -- is calling for an increase in the retirement age.

I know this isn't what people want to hear. There is enough serious economic stress now to make mention of one more sacrifice almost too much to bear. As for me, I've been working since I was 14 and don't want to wait a day longer than necessary to retire.

The actuaries do not suggest a specific age (the current age to claim full benefits rises gradually to 67 for those born in 1960 and later). Nor do they estimate how much money a gradual increase would save the system.

What they do is present a compelling argument that makes far more sense than any politician's garble. "It's a demographic solution to a demographic problem," says Bruce Schobel, who chairs the academy's retirement security task force. In 1940, a 65-year-old man lived an additional 12 years longer, on average, and females lived about 13. By 2007, those figures had reached about 17 years for men and 19 for women.

The choice of 65 as the normal retirement age when Social Security was created in 1935 was driven entirely by cost estimates, Schobel says, and 65 was a compromise. The only change in the normal retirement age since then was the gradual boost to 67, enacted in 1983.

Privatizing Social Security sets up clear winners and losers, harming women and low-wage workers in particular. Raising taxes through Obama's "doughnut hole" produces different classes of Social Security taxpayers and beneficiaries, fundamentally changing the nature of the program. Tinkering with benefit calculations has different impacts on various groups of workers.

But if we want to keep Social Security fair, if we want a long-term solution to treat all recipients as equally as possible, and if we want to do it in a way that is straightforward and understandable -- not so convoluted that few understand how the change would affect them -- there is solid reasoning, and not political sleight-of-hand, behind the actuaries' plan.

© 2008, Washington Post Writers Group

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Marie Cocco is a prize-winning syndicated columnist on political and cultural topics for The Washington Post Writers Group. She is a frequent commentator on national TV and radio shows.

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IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 5, 2008 8:01 AM   
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Just stop using the money for other purposes. Privatizing is high risk, just look at the last Year. Would anyone want their old age money invested in Bush's precious markets? I think not. It's a time for discipline and resisting the urge to raid the cookie jar. The idea of each generation working for the last one can't be improved upon. People should be able to opt out if they so chose. By the way, McCain collects his SS every month. Thanks, ANNA

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Raising Retirement Age
Posted by: JSquercia on Aug 5, 2008 5:06 PM   
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What the American Society of Actuaries neglects to consider is that NOT everyone works in a White Collar Job and for those engaged in such occupations that require intense Physical Labor a hike in the retirement age is unfair .
I am leary of ANOTHER Commission the last did some good things but also some terrible ones the main thing beine Taxing of Social Security Benefits for so called upper income Seniors . Strangely this income determination was NOT indexed .THe extra money is NOT used to save Social Security but instead is used as general Revenue .
I believe the former head of Social Security has said solvency could be achieved by raising the tax less than a percent .

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Posted by: CommonDreamer on Aug 6, 2008 5:41 AM   
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The last thing we need is to work people to death in order to finance egregious tax cuts to the top. Means testing should always be done - we are wasting money otherwise. Regressive items such as the mortgage deduction (which in reality truly helps the wealthy the most), the insane SUV write off, the capital gains rate, and all other wasteful tax breaks, especially those allowing corporations to write off CEO compensation and income put into their pensions...as well as the use of corporate jets and any other perks - should be stopped immediately. Also, high federal taxes should be levied upon the building of large mansions as a deterrent. Nearly every tax break should be targeted towards populist and progressive issues....in this way, the economic empowerment of the regular citizen can be assured - and probably they could provide so much better for their own retirement - if they were not already financing the pointless indulgences of the top, due to the regressive tax policies we have in place.

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In Other Words...
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Aug 7, 2008 11:41 AM   
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Privatizing--by any other name (and by any 'group' who has or who serve those with a vested interest in privatization schemes) smells just as bad, no matter how much perfume is spilled upon it in order to make it more palatable.

Or in other words--there's no 'putting lipstick on this pig' when it comes to privatization proposals for Social Security. Let me put it yet another way, to both McCain and Obama:

No matter what the lobbyists (Wall St, the big insurers, etc) tell you--it will be political suicide on a grand scale, to tamper with Social Security in any way. Even Bush had the wisdom (?!) to try to hawk this voluntarily through town meetings, and it failed miserably. It failed, and not only because people can count: it also failed, because it's completely immoral to change a program that has worked perfectly and done exactly what it was supposed to do: guaranteed the Social Security of not only the jobless, the chronically sick and their children--but also, that of billions of older Americans, ever since the First Great Depression.

Listen well, candidates: neither failure NOR immorality, win elections. At the end of Election day, only one of you will be standing: the lobbyists all will still have their jobs and their money, no matter what you do. There's nothing they can give you--and much that they can take away. Remember that, and remember it well. Both of you.

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Clairity from Obama is necessary. Nail him on it.
Posted by: nightgaunt on Aug 7, 2008 1:11 PM   
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If he doesn't he can't be trusted. See who his economic advisers are should tell you from whence his economic notions come from and will go to. Nothing needs to be said about McCain, he is the obvious one about it. He is a rich bitch after all and a sellout. Obama is just that much more camouflaged in his real leanings. The stealth candidate for pseudo-change.

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